| 00:00:10 | kugel | hm, I could have tried your patch on that one too, sorry. I forgot about that I ran it on the touchpad until a minute ago |
| 00:01:01 | wodz | I guess it will suffer the same problem which disabling interrupts |
| 00:01:10 | wodz | *with |
| 00:02:42 | kugel | can't you just disable the whole "is this called from a exception?" code on RaaA and always use current sp? |
| 00:03:50 | wodz | most probably. I just didn't realize this might be a problem |
| 00:05:21 | kugel | it doesn't work from signal handlers this way but on RaaA we really want the panicf() use case anyway |
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| 00:08:26 | wodz | bah, compilation fails elsewhere (pcm_mixer.o) and dunno why. I'll dig tomorrow. |
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| 00:54:33 | gevaerts | soap: I'd like to postpone spam filter things until after scorche found time to install my latest patch |
| 00:55:32 | * | kugel somehow dislikes that we depend on single persons for some of our infrastructure |
| 00:55:52 | gevaerts | I'd also like to point out that akismet intercepts in the order of 100 spam posts per day these days |
| 00:56:17 | JdGordon | yeah, wtf made us some a nice target? |
| 00:56:23 | soap | I'm not saying drop akismet w/o a replacement in the wings, just that the harm it is causing is real. |
| 00:56:30 | kugel | JdGordon: a bad spam filter |
| 00:57:16 | gevaerts | akismet isn't causing us any harm. The horrid smf akismet mod is |
| 00:57:29 | saratoga_ | http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/online.php |
| 00:57:36 | saratoga_ | its not like we're getting more then ABI |
| 00:57:42 | saratoga_ | we just have buggier filtering |
| 00:57:53 | gevaerts | The worst parts of that should be fixed soon, but there are some bits that would be nice to also do |
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| 01:00:16 | gevaerts | The missing bit would mainly be reporting false negatives |
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| 01:08:45 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: why breaky keyclick_click for non-action use? |
| 01:10:53 | JdGordon | ? |
| 01:12:06 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: it no longer works in mpegplayer, which uses raw key reads so get_action_statuscode doesn't do anything there |
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| 01:22:49 | soap | gevaerts, you don't think akismet eating posts by devs is harm? |
| 01:23:08 | soap | That's my beef with it. It doesn't appear to have even the simplest of whitelisting. |
| 01:24:54 | gevaerts | If that's seen as a problem, it can be handled. Adding whitelisting for specific groups shouldn't be too hard |
| 01:25:15 | gevaerts | How often does it actually happen though? |
| 01:25:49 | soap | You've been much more active in the forums than I these last months. |
| 01:25:57 | soap | I pulled three out by two different people today. |
| 01:26:25 | kugel | I guess we also want to whitelist individuals (like dfkt) after false positivies so per-group doesn't seem sufficient |
| 01:27:07 | gevaerts | To be honest, right now I don't see whitelisting as especially indispensable |
| 01:27:56 | gevaerts | Yes, there are false positives. If someone goes through the list several times per day, is that really unacceptable? |
| 01:28:27 | kugel | if that someone isn't me I'm fine ;) |
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| 01:28:54 | gevaerts | Someone has to do it anyway. If you're going to whitelist individuals, you need to find out *who* to whitelist |
| 01:29:03 | kugel | it's fine as long as we find volunteers for that |
| 01:29:20 | jhMikeS | the forums seem somewhat corrupted. some things appear to have gone missing, some that I've posted on recently |
| 01:29:38 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: yes, known problem, solution pending |
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| 01:31:27 | jhMikeS | ok, I asked about it before but got no response. good to know you're aware of it |
| 01:31:51 | soap | will said solution fix the problem where rescued posts don't trigger the "new post" trigger? |
| 01:32:09 | gevaerts | There's a patch in scorche's inbox waiting for him to stop being cosmopolitan for a day |
| 01:32:15 | soap | see dreamlayer's new thread in the Official Test Builds forum for example. |
| 01:33:21 | gevaerts | no |
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| 01:34:31 | gevaerts | My view was that having topics with rescued posts being a bit buggy (but still being shown!) is better than having topics that once had spam being hidden or otherwise corrupted |
| 01:36:14 | soap | I hear that, though it depends on your browsing style. I would never have seen DL's new thread if I didn't know he was going to make it because I won't open a subforum which isn't highlighted as having new messages. |
| 01:36:48 | soap | Other people, though, seem to like browsing "recent posts", which would be fixed as I understand it by the pending patch. |
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| 01:38:38 | gevaerts | I agree, same for me really. It should be fixable, but I'm not familiar enough (yet? I hope not! This is php!) with the code to know how involved and/or risky (we don't want to break other stuff) that is |
| 01:40:39 | saratoga_ | gevaerts: could it just ignore anyone with more then 25 posts? |
| 01:41:06 | saratoga_ | (no idea if its feasible to query the post count) |
| 01:41:16 | gevaerts | That part is probably feasible |
| 01:42:10 | dreamlayers | It would have to only count posts which aren't marked as spam. |
| 01:42:29 | gevaerts | The thing I'm less sure about is how to handle it on the akismet communication side. If we just don't submit those posts (which is the easiest way), won't that distort the statistics and in the long run make it unreliable? |
| 01:43:09 | gevaerts | So we'd have to submit it and automatically tell it about it not being spam. All doable, but again php work :) |
| 01:46:55 | dreamlayers | Why was pcm-pp.c history not preserved when it was moved to arm/pp? Is that because the move was done using svn? |
| 01:47:40 | gevaerts | dreamlayers: are you using −−follow? |
| 01:48:20 | gevaerts | git log defaults to not following through moves |
| 01:48:26 | dreamlayers | gevaerts: i didn't know about that. it works. Thanks! |
| 01:50:35 | bluebrother | gevaerts: would it be feasible to make everyone in the forums moderated who is not having a badge or has a given number of posts? |
| 01:51:07 | gevaerts | I don't know |
| 01:51:23 | dreamlayers | Looks like the change in pcm-pp.c in http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a67707b5ec3b2c649c401550bb7fdef2b7c8d07 is wrong: for playback DMA, it should call commit_dcache() not commit_discard_idcache(). |
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| 01:51:29 | gevaerts | I suspect there are mods for that sort of thing |
| 01:52:08 | gevaerts | Would it achieve much though? |
| 01:57:01 | bluebrother | no idea. It could help keeping spam posts invisible. |
| 01:57:09 | bluebrother | not sure if it's worth the additional work though. |
| 01:58:21 | gevaerts | I'd like to get the existing systems in use to work properly before even considering extra measures |
| 01:59:08 | bluebrother | fair enough |
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| 03:02:28 | jhMikeS | dreamlayers: derp! |
| 03:03:36 | jhMikeS | that is quite wrong, yes |
| 03:04:13 | dreamlayers | jhMikeS: also in create_thread(), commit_dcache() should be sufficient. |
| 03:05:33 | jhMikeS | it's not, since the new thread shouldn't retain knowledge of any previous code |
| 03:06:17 | jhMikeS | do you mean the start routine? |
| 03:06:46 | dreamlayers | After the "Writeback stack munging or anything else before starting" comment. |
| 03:06:54 | jhMikeS | aye, in that case too, yes |
| 03:08:00 | dreamlayers | The changes from cpucache_invalidate() to commit_dcache() in codec_crt0.c and plugin_crt0.c seem correct. That seems to be to ensure .bss zeroing can be seen via uncached aliases, and there's no need to invalidate for that. |
| 03:09:15 | jhMikeS | agreed, so will cop threads see the changes |
| 03:09:50 | * | jhMikeS archaic word ordering alert ^ |
| 03:12:51 | jhMikeS | any chance of being able to implement range ops on PP? |
| 03:13:44 | dreamlayers | I don't know how to do a partial commit, but a partial discard can be done by only changing some status words. |
| 03:14:37 | dreamlayers | There are two possibilities: 1) change all status words which could hold data from the region or 2) actually examine status words and only change those which actually hold data from the region. |
| 03:16:55 | jhMikeS | the loop can be limited since some address can only be in one of four places |
| 03:18:18 | jhMikeS | are the CACHE_XXX_BASE defines proper? |
| 03:18:46 | dreamlayers | That is what I meant of by 1). In 2) in addition to that, the address part of the status word would be checked and the rewriting would only happen if it is in the region. |
| 03:19:50 | dreamlayers | CACHE_DATA_BASE and CACHE_STATUS_BASE are correct. I don't know if CACHE_FLUSH_BASE or CACHE_INVALID_BASE have anything there. |
| 03:21:35 | jhMikeS | PP5002 controls everything from those areas, there's no hardware bulk operation. I guess just rewriting commit_dcache using it would prove it true or false |
| 03:21:52 | jhMikeS | * to see if it appies to 502x as well |
| 03:23:10 | dreamlayers | http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/memory_controller.txt says no way to do a partial flush or invalidate was found on a PP5024. I tried using the PP5002 code but it didn't seem to do anything. |
| 03:24:33 | jhMikeS | that's referring to some weird function inside the retail OS iirc |
| 03:24:52 | funman | saratoga_: do you have your clipv2 handy ? i would like to release the bootloader |
| 03:25:07 | saratoga_ | funman: yes i can test |
| 03:25:08 | jhMikeS | dreamlayers: it uses that address to set up a masked operation |
| 03:26:14 | dreamlayers | jhMikeS: "IpodLinux wiki seems to suggest that PP5020 has some way of flushing and/or invalidating individual cache lines here, but at least I have not found any way to trigger such a behaviour on a Sansa (PP5024)." |
| 03:27:45 | dreamlayers | I don't know how cache flush mask could be useful. Only the flush base and invalid base could offer a way to do partial operations. |
| 03:28:42 | jhMikeS | OF has it and does checks to do flush/flush+invalidate |
| 03:29:12 | dreamlayers | Which device OF? |
| 03:29:15 | jhMikeS | I could check my disasm again to be sure |
| 03:29:33 | jhMikeS | I think any of the PP502x ones that use .mi4 |
| 03:29:57 | jhMikeS | I'm extrapolating a bit. The only one I went through fully was H10's |
| 03:30:32 | dreamlayers | What did you see? Use of cache flush mask? |
| 03:30:55 | jhMikeS | presence of it anyway |
| 03:31:44 | funman | saratoga_: funman/bootloader-clipv2.sansa">http://people.videolan.org/~funman/bootloader-clipv2.sansa |
| 03:32:08 | dreamlayers | I think I saw it being initialized in the 5G iPod OF, but I didn't see it involved in flushes or invalidates. |
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| 03:35:31 | saratoga | funman: works fine |
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| 03:38:11 | dreamlayers | jhMikeS: In lc_open() in load_code.c, it's safe to assume switch_core() will do the desired commit and discard, so it's sufficient to switch back and forth, without calling commit_discard_idcache() there, right? |
| 03:38:50 | dreamlayers | I can't imagine how one could implement switch_core() without that call inside it. The PP version calls it. |
| 03:39:14 | funman | saratoga: sent to Bagder, now checking how to tag with git :) |
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| 03:45:40 | funman | % git push −−tags |
| 03:45:40 | funman | Counting objects: 1, done. |
| 03:45:40 | funman | Writing objects: 100% (1/1), 244 bytes, done. |
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| 03:45:40 | funman | Total 1 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0) |
| 03:45:40 | funman | To ssh://funman@gerrit.rockbox.org:29418/rockbox ! [remote rejected] bootloader_clipv2_v5 -> bootloader_clipv2_v5 (prohibited by Gerrit) |
| 03:45:43 | funman | error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://funman@gerrit.rockbox.org:29418/rockbox' |
| 03:45:49 | funman | Torne: we can't push tags ? |
| 03:47:18 | funman | Torne: To push annotated tags, the Push Annotated Tag project right must be granted to one (or more) of the user's groups. There is only one level of access in this category. |
| 03:47:23 | funman | from http://gerrit.googlecode.com/svn/documentation/2.0/user-upload.html |
| 03:48:23 | funman | for reference i built the clipv2 bootloader with 67dd4d6995c2b |
| 03:51:14 | funman | tags are forbidden in sandbox too although −−dry-run works |
| 03:51:35 | saratoga | does the tagnavi file also customize the playlist catalog? |
| 03:52:14 | saratoga | or is the playlist view hard coded? |
| 03:53:45 | jhMikeS | dreamlayers: switch_core does handle the cache |
| 03:58:32 | funman | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingGit#Tagging |
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| 04:03:37 | jhMikeS | dreamlayers: though really, I'm not sure why switch_core really needs to happen. cache ops should happen in whatever plugin or code needs them. I think came about for greylib on cop. |
| 04:04:02 | funman | this DMA patch looks very stable |
| 04:04:14 | funman | from the mails, because i didnt test it |
| 04:04:18 | jhMikeS | dreamlayers: the timer runs on COP so there's no start routine per se that runs on the correct core |
| 04:04:59 | jhMikeS | dreamlayers: but the switch_core could be perfomed within greylib instead of for every plugin load |
| 04:06:42 | dreamlayers | jhMikeS: it seems reasonable to perform it for every plugin load. It's not an expensive operation compared to loading code from storage, and it avoids hard to debug unpredictable behaviour if something else started running code on COP that way. |
| 04:09:55 | jhMikeS | maybe, maybe not. that really doesn't help anything doing real stuff with COP anyway. thread.c handles the basics for threads. |
| 04:10:24 | jhMikeS | the gotchas there are numerous |
| 04:17:07 | dreamlayers | Did anyone notice recent instability on pp502x targets (without the cache bug patch)? The use of commit_discard_idcache() for playback DMA should have been triggering the cache bug. |
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| 04:18:09 | jhMikeS | strangely enough, maybe |
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| 04:18:32 | jhMikeS | weren't there some reports about mystery faults? |
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| 04:22:10 | jhMikeS | but, I'm not sure when those were reported and with the mixer, that code won't be called since it uses an IRAM buffer |
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| 04:23:09 | dreamlayers | Oh yeah, I forgot about that, this isn't called during normal playback. |
| 04:23:15 | jhMikeS | nah, probably has nothing to do with it. first was mixer, then cache name changes |
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| 04:24:53 | jhMikeS | maybe some PCM-using plugin started going haywire |
| 04:31:18 | CIA-10 | Commit 0a8235d in rockbox by Boris Gjenero: Use commit_dcache() instead of commit_discard_idcache() where possible |
| 04:33:37 | CIA-10 | 0a8235d build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (Boris Gjenero committed) |
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| 04:56:21 | dreamlayers | I'd like to STORAGE_ALIGN_BUFFER() in test_disk so aligned reads can use DMA. Do I just rely on plugin.h including system.h, or should I include it explicitly? |
| 04:59:21 | jhMikeS | just rely on it |
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| 05:02:38 | jhMikeS | I wish we had a rockbox.h that included config.h and system.h automatically. forgetting config.h can have hazards that won't break compilation but can cause improper code elsewhere |
| 05:05:21 | dreamlayers | Wouldn't it be possible to forget rockbox.h then? Maybe config.h could be included via the -include command line option. |
| 05:07:36 | jhMikeS | yeah, or something. I've run into trouble before, the last time with settings and the different files that have to know about the same features. |
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| 05:11:24 | funman | automatically including config.h looks cool |
| 05:27:43 | jhMikeS | a quick check seems to suggest that CACHE_FLUSH_BASE works |
| 05:28:00 | dreamlayers | Nice! |
| 05:28:20 | dreamlayers | There's no need for invalidate base if it'd trigger the bug. |
| 05:28:23 | jhMikeS | no formal tests, but playback and dual-core plugins and codecs seem ok |
| 05:29:41 | dreamlayers | Are you using a version with my recent change, so playback uses flush only? |
| 05:30:41 | jhMikeS | no, I just did commit_dcache as it is for PP5002, but I'm check on e200 (I don't hope too high just yet) |
| 05:31:19 | jhMikeS | err, oh those, yeah |
| 05:32:01 | jhMikeS | I need a plugin that can play something with direct pcm... hmmm |
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| 05:34:26 | jhMikeS | hrm....might be false alarm! :P |
| 05:36:04 | dreamlayers | pp5002 has a different CACHE_FLUSH_BASE: 0xf000c000. Trying that seems like a good idea. |
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| 05:37:36 | jhMikeS | just did |
| 05:42:38 | dreamlayers | I think Doom uses normal cached RAM for its sound buffer. It's allocated via malloc(). |
| 05:44:03 | dreamlayers | Interestingly, there's a comment: "Don't place this in IRAM! Sound playback uses DMA, and not all IRAM is DMA capable on coldfire." |
| 05:46:08 | jhMikeS | was using pacbox, which tells the truth well enough |
| 05:46:39 | dreamlayers | So, did the other flush base work? |
| 05:47:25 | jhMikeS | no :( |
| 05:49:54 | dreamlayers | The 5G iPod OF has a partial cache commit function which simply calls a function like commit_dcache(). |
| 05:51:16 | jhMikeS | what else does it do? set any flags? |
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| 05:53:13 | jhMikeS | or you're just saying it ignores params and calls right into a commit_dcache? |
| 05:53:28 | dreamlayers | Yes, precisely. |
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| 06:01:58 | jhMikeS | argh, super fail so far :( |
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| 06:03:05 | dreamlayers | For stuff like this it would be nice to have some other way to experiment, besides uploading rockbox.ipod over usb and running it. I guess there's a way to run GDB? |
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| 06:07:54 | JdGordon | dreamlayers: im testing on my CF-ed ipod video now.. do you want the results in a email reply? |
| 06:09:28 | dreamlayers | JdGordon: Thanks for testing. You can tell me here now if you want, or e-mail later. |
| 06:10:04 | jhMikeS | we want it on record, written! |
| 06:10:43 | jhMikeS | on parchment |
| 06:10:57 | Kriz | Rockbox'ers, question: I just upgraded a Sansa Clip V1 to the current Rockbox version and appear to have bricked it. I believe I may have chosen V2 rather than V1 on the device selection window. Could this cause the problem? Tried the power button for 30 seconds, nothing. Short of disassembly, am i SOL? |
| 06:12:50 | saratoga_ | installing the wrong build won't brick it |
| 06:13:08 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 06:13:08 | * | jhMikeS hates getting excited about thinking having found something that further tests only completely debunk |
| 06:13:44 | jhMikeS | oh well, enough have worked out in the past though |
| 06:13:59 | Kriz | I used the install utility, everything appeared to go well. Unmounted the device, on the Clip it displayed "Updating Firmware" for about a minute. Then went black. Now nothing. |
| 06:14:29 | saratoga_ | Kriz: you were updating the bootloader? |
| 06:15:04 | funman | Kriz: press power button? |
| 06:15:16 | Kriz | Using the Rockbox util, i did the Quick Start - Complete installation |
| 06:15:21 | saratoga_ | i guess if you got the updating firmware screen you had the right firmware version, otherwise it wouldn't have taken the file |
| 06:15:50 | JdGordon | dreamlayers: well, after 19 passes no mismatches so looks good.. rebuilding the db now to see if there is any issues |
| 06:15:50 | Kriz | funman.... tried that |
| 06:16:23 | funman | clipv2? |
| 06:16:29 | Kriz | V1 |
| 06:16:55 | saratoga_ | i guess in theory updating the sandisk firmware could always brick the player, don't think i've ever heard of that happening though |
| 06:17:06 | dreamlayers | JdGordon: thanks |
| 06:17:09 | funman | plug it on usb perhaps, else wait a few days to be sure the battery's empty and plug it again |
| 06:17:46 | Kriz | Its non-responsive when plugged in to USB... it had a full battery prior to updating. |
| 06:18:04 | Kriz | Other than holding the power button, any other known resets? |
| 06:18:11 | funman | cut the battery wires |
| 06:18:58 | Kriz | gotcha |
| 06:19:14 | Kriz | thanks for the help. off to disassemble i guess |
| 06:19:19 | saratoga_ | why would it freeze during a firmware reboot though |
| 06:19:26 | saratoga_ | reload i mean |
| 06:19:30 | saratoga_ | thats the sandisk code |
| 06:19:37 | funman | Kriz: wait a feaw days before opening it, you never know |
| 06:19:40 | saratoga_ | its pretty safe |
| 06:19:43 | Kriz | will do... |
| 06:20:14 | Kriz | im not sure what happened... all was well. Did a format prior to running the utility, used the stock config, flashed, dismounted... dead. |
| 06:22:05 | saratoga_ | it sounds like the firmware update failed somehow |
| 06:22:20 | saratoga_ | when you reinstall the bootloader you're erasing the sandisk rom and then rewriting it |
| 06:22:32 | saratoga_ | if that fails theres no longer anything on the player to run |
| 06:22:59 | saratoga_ | its checksum'ed to make sure you can't write bad files, but i guess the flash itself could fail or the sandisk software could crash |
| 06:23:00 | Kriz | assuming that happened, will bridging the 2 pins enable me to remount and restore? |
| 06:23:17 | saratoga_ | i think so, assuming the hardware isn't broken |
| 06:23:28 | saratoga_ | not sure how well that works on the clipv1 though |
| 06:23:38 | saratoga_ | i don't know if anyone has ever bricked one |
| 06:23:49 | saratoga_ | except maybe funman when he first started the port :) |
| 06:24:09 | funman | i did not brick *one* ^_^ |
| 06:24:10 | Kriz | it may be the v2... the firmware on it was 2.01.35... i think i gave bad info initially |
| 06:24:16 | Kriz | my apologies |
| 06:24:16 | funman | eh |
| 06:24:27 | funman | Kriz: you can open it right away, it's bricked |
| 06:24:39 | Kriz | LOL |
| 06:24:47 | Kriz | cat chew toy |
| 06:24:55 | saratoga_ | did you ever have rockbox on it? |
| 06:24:55 | funman | you can repair it though |
| 06:25:38 | funman | i commited fixes for clipv2 a few days ago but the binaries have not been released yet so yo umust build bootloader / mkamsboot from svn |
| 06:25:48 | funman | or i could give you a patched OF whe you repair yours |
| 06:26:30 | funman | Kriz: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaClipV2UnbrickingTutorial |
| 06:26:38 | Kriz | i think that is the part where i need to do more reading... |
| 06:26:45 | Kriz | i am reading that now funman |
| 06:26:54 | funman | i dont think clipv2 bricking is documented |
| 06:27:09 | saratoga_ | did you ever have rockbox on the player? |
| 06:27:49 | Kriz | nope... just dicking around with it getting ready to update my gym playlist |
| 06:27:59 | Kriz | googled firmware, rockbox came up |
| 06:28:02 | saratoga_ | heh |
| 06:28:06 | saratoga_ | thats impressively bad timing |
| 06:28:08 | Kriz | wanted to tinker around with something that worked perfectly fine |
| 06:28:17 | Kriz | and here i am |
| 06:28:29 | saratoga_ | if you'd waited a day or two you'd have gotten the fix |
| 06:28:43 | Kriz | anyone want to let me send it to them plus a paypal for a 6 pack of beer to restore it... |
| 06:29:02 | saratoga_ | theres a really low probability that any given clipv2 would fail to patch, and funman just figured out how to fix that |
| 06:29:26 | funman | when it's running again try to put funman/m30pa.bin">http://people.videolan.org/~funman/m30pa.bin on your player instead of using rockbox utility |
| 06:29:28 | saratoga_ | honestly for the cost its probably more effective to just grab a clip+ the next time a batch of them goes for 20 dollars on woot or wherever |
| 06:29:41 | funman | Kriz: the procedure to unbrick is quite simple |
| 06:29:51 | Kriz | linux needed? |
| 06:30:05 | funman | hm any unix will do |
| 06:30:15 | funman | i don't know how to write to raw devices on windows |
| 06:30:33 | dreamlayers | funman: Cygwin can, when running as Administrator. |
| 06:30:55 | funman | what is the url? |
| 06:31:13 | funman | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/100027 says something like \\.\0 or 1 or 2.. |
| 06:31:27 | Kriz | you guys are awesome btw...thanks for the help. sorry for the distraction from your other projects |
| 06:31:30 | dreamlayers | eg. I've used Cygwin dd to write to disk devices and partitions. |
| 06:32:15 | dreamlayers | Cygwin uses Unix-like names like /dev/sdb |
| 06:32:49 | dreamlayers | Be very careful with this stuff: don't write to the wrong device. |
| 06:32:53 | funman | Kriz: so cygwin is fine |
| 06:32:58 | funman | you can check by reading first |
| 06:34:01 | Kriz | gotcha... just downloaded |
| 06:37:49 | Kriz | thanks again, going to go follow the tutorial. |
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| 06:52:32 | funman | bluebrother: 1 clipv2 bricked! |
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| 07:13:41 | pixelma | there's also a dd.exe for windows |
| 07:14:15 | dreamlayers | pixelma: dd is available as a Cygwin package. Some other unix utility ports have it too. |
| 07:14:43 | pixelma | with the former you don't have to install cygwin if you haven't yet |
| 07:14:57 | pixelma | it's a standalone tool |
| 07:15:26 | dreamlayers | I'm not sure how well the standalone ones with with disk devices. |
| 07:16:42 | pixelma | hmm, disk, I don't know. But I already used it to get the first bytes of my c200 for development purpose |
| 07:17:59 | dreamlayers | http://discuss.fogcreek.com/joelonsoftware2/default.asp?cmd=show&ixPost=44903 shows the syntax |
| 07:40:54 | dreamlayers | Why do the storage align macros do nothing on most targets? When PIO is used, word alignment is helpful. |
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| 13:14:44 | SynrG | btw, yesterday my son, a fuze owner, was lamenting he couldn't find his dead tree copy of Hunger Games 2. i happened to have it in epub form so translated to txt with calibre and copied it to his player. curly quotes were wrong which i recognized as an encoding issue and fixed easily by consulting the manual and finding the encoding option. kudos to the text-viewer authors. a really nice piece of software :) |
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| 16:02:13 | pamaury | Torne: ping |
| 16:02:25 | Torne | hi |
| 16:02:44 | pamaury | hi |
| 16:02:54 | pamaury | I wanted to put a change on gerrit for review |
| 16:03:12 | pamaury | and I didn't pay attention that my commit "depended" on a local one that I wanted to commit to master anyway |
| 16:03:41 | pamaury | so now both are on gerrit for review :-/ Can I simply submit the first one without review ? |
| 16:04:16 | Torne | if you push it directly to master it will just close the review as merged |
| 16:04:37 | pamaury | ah cool :) That answers my question |
| 16:05:14 | CIA-10 | Commit 0aca81d in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: imx233: add audioin init code, add adc dma interrupts, fix register defines |
| 16:05:57 | pamaury | Is it new that gerrit shows warning about commit message being too long ? |
| 16:06:12 | Torne | i don't think anything has canged |
| 16:06:37 | Torne | The recommended git commit message format is a oneline summary that's <=50 chars |
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| 16:06:45 | Torne | then paragraphs wrapped at ~72 |
| 16:06:59 | Torne | not strictly required, but strongly preferred to make −−oneline output look nice :) |
| 16:07:32 | CIA-10 | 0aca81d build result: All green |
| 16:10:02 | Torne | funman: apologies for yo unot being able to push tags; i meant to set up a way to allow this. I've now done it: add yourself to the Rockbox Release Committers group and you will get permission to push annotated tags and new heads (you can add/remove yourself, probably prefable to remove when you are done) |
| 16:10:27 | Torne | funman: if that doesn't work let me know :p |
| 16:11:17 | pamaury | Torne: by chance, do you know if one change the behaviour of the "Diff all side-by-side" in gerrit ? That's nearly a terrorist attacks when it opens dozens of tab (one for each file) ! |
| 16:11:22 | pamaury | *can |
| 16:11:25 | Torne | don't think s |
| 16:11:45 | Torne | raise a feature request on the gerrit issue tracker |
| 16:11:56 | Torne | it is moderately dumb that it opens N windos |
| 16:12:20 | pamaury | already raised apparently |
| 16:12:29 | Torne | star it then :O |
| 16:12:30 | pamaury | Issue 938: Diff all side-by-side on the same page |
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| 16:15:45 | pamaury | done, we'll see. It seems some guys at nokia have a patch to change this behaviour and are tried to push it upstream without success |
| 16:16:45 | Torne | nobody was able to push patches to gerrit for a long time beacuse of kernel.org downtime |
| 16:16:54 | Torne | now that gerrit's gerrit is back up i expect it can be done |
| 16:17:23 | pamaury | what is the link between kernel.org and gerrit ? |
| 16:17:30 | pamaury | was it hosted on kernel.org ? |
| 16:17:54 | Torne | yes, gerrit was part of AOSP |
| 16:17:59 | Torne | on android.git.kernel.org |
| 16:18:13 | pamaury | ok |
| 16:18:15 | pamaury | Call for testers: please review/test http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,84 (radio power handling) ! |
| 16:18:18 | Torne | google host AOSP themselves now, though |
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| 16:28:13 | CIA-10 | 4b85c93 build result: All green |
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| 16:29:56 | dreamlayers | So, apparently "looks good to me, approved" doesn't automatically do anything, and I have to "submit patch set" to get it included. |
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| 16:32:35 | dreamlayers | I see "Status: Merged", but it seems the change was rebased. I guess Gerrit does that automatically. |
| 16:33:02 | Torne | gerrit cherrypicks commits to avoid creating unnecessary merge commits |
| 16:38:11 | dreamlayers | It seems e-mail notifications for submitted changes only notifies for changes that went through code review. |
| 16:42:20 | jhMikeS | kugel: why is the generic mixer code in two places? (firmware/asm and firmware/asm/generic) |
| 16:43:04 | kugel | jhMikeS: oh. that's a mistake. firmware/asm/generic shouldnt exist |
| 16:45:26 | kugel | aosp gerrit is back? great |
| 16:45:39 | jhMikeS | it should probably be a wee bit more generic too |
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| 17:24:49 | perfectdrug | hey I just want to announce that I uploaded http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12577 :) after lebellium told me that it is needed ;) |
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| 17:26:11 | lebellium | oh thank you so much perfectdrug! |
| 17:26:11 | jhMikeS | wtf, ever time I try to run the sim now: SDL_WaitEvent error ?? |
| 17:26:20 | lebellium | that's really nice :) |
| 17:28:37 | lebellium | hey gevaerts: perfectdrug nicely designed the R0 pic. Do you have the necessary rights to add it to the builds page? |
| 17:28:42 | perfectdrug | lebellium: yeah and I was faster than I thought |
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| 17:30:57 | gevaerts | lebellium: yes, it just needs to be committed in the right spot. I'll get to it later today unless someone beats me to it |
| 17:31:52 | lebellium | perfectdrug: I see on the SVG pic there is no black line for the navigation square (silver circle), is it normal? |
| 17:33:08 | perfectdrug | what do you mean? the arrow for the text? |
| 17:33:48 | lebellium | yes I mean the arrow for the text. The silver square is the left/right/up/down keys |
| 17:34:19 | lebellium | maybe the arrow for the central button is also for they arrow keys? |
| 17:34:26 | lebellium | for the* |
| 17:35:08 | perfectdrug | oh I didn't know this the user manual page 8 you linked me doesn't show it |
| 17:35:51 | perfectdrug | ah actually it did, but I missinterpreted |
| 17:36:17 | lebellium | yes in the manual there is only one arrow for both the navigation square and the selection button |
| 17:36:32 | kugel | perfectdrug: consider pushing it to gerrit :) |
| 17:36:36 | lebellium | that said we can do the same for rockbox maybe? |
| 17:37:27 | kugel | perfectdrug: nice work anyway :) |
| 17:38:01 | kugel | perfectdrug: btw, sansa clip zip and fuze+ are also in need of a new picture :) |
| 17:38:10 | dreamlayers | 5G iPod sim works for me. |
| 17:38:46 | kugel | gevaerts: fs#12407 also while you're at it |
| 17:38:46 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12407 SVG Image for Philips GoGear SA9200 (patches, unconfirmed) |
| 17:39:07 | dreamlayers | jhMikeS: did you try make clean? What device sim are you using, and what OS? |
| 17:39:16 | kugel | oh wait, that one has a small error |
| 17:40:56 | kugel | lebellium: on my silver ypr0 there's only one square |
| 17:41:28 | kugel | perfectdrug: would be nice if you could fix the issue with the sa9200 pics |
| 17:41:47 | lebellium | kugel: I have both black and silver R0. what square are you talking about? |
| 17:42:05 | kugel | the one that has the directional buttons |
| 17:42:17 | lebellium | yes |
| 17:42:19 | lebellium | and? |
| 17:42:49 | jhMikeS | dreamlayers: I did make clean. beast sim, debian (which was all fine until just very recently) |
| 17:42:59 | kugel | lebellium: oh sorry, I misread |
| 17:44:14 | lebellium | ah ok :) |
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| 17:45:20 | perfectdrug | now it looks really messy suggestions? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/828/text4469.png/ |
| 17:46:08 | wodz | kugel: could you paste the changes you made to compile unwinder on android? I have hard times to compile sdl RaaA on arm |
| 17:46:14 | wodz | with unwinder |
| 17:46:34 | kugel | wodz: dont have it anymore |
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| 17:47:24 | kugel | was basically s/CONFIG_PLATFORM & PLATFORM_NATIVE// |
| 17:47:32 | kugel | and adding the .c to firmware/SOURCES |
| 17:47:40 | lebellium | perfectdrug: maybe one single arrow for the navigation square? |
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| 17:48:57 | lebellium | arbitrarily choose any directional key, I guess people would understand that applies to all keys |
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| 17:51:42 | perfectdrug | lebellium: like this http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/text4470.png/ ? |
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| 17:52:23 | lebellium | perfectdrug: Indeed I would do that personally. What do the others think? Kugel? |
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| 17:55:16 | kugel | "Navigation" sounds like it was one button |
| 17:55:32 | kugel | why not just "Left/Right/Up/Down"? |
| 17:55:35 | funman | Torne: how can i add myself to the release committers group? |
| 17:55:49 | kugel | or perhaps "Directional Keys" |
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| 17:57:40 | perfectdrug | maybe I should wait for comments before updating the task :) |
| 17:58:08 | perfectdrug | Directional Keys sounds good |
| 17:59:55 | perfectdrug | Left/Right/Up/Down also :/ |
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| 18:00:15 | lebellium | ahah |
| 18:00:26 | lebellium | difficult choice |
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| 18:02:36 | gartral | hey all |
| 18:02:47 | perfectdrug | where is the steering board when we need it :DD |
| 18:03:22 | funman | Torne: i am not a gerrit admin |
| 18:04:19 | funman | Torne: why do we need a separate group; we could give the permission to tag to all rockbox committers |
| 18:05:38 | perfectdrug | I'll go with directional keys now |
| 18:06:46 | lebellium | okay |
| 18:07:39 | pixelma | perfectdrug: maybe marking the "directions" individually, that can get crowded easily though but thats how it was done for the joystick thingies of e.g. the Iaudios too (although those have marks around the joystick so this was easier and isn't completely comparable) |
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| 18:09:12 | perfectdrug | hey pixelma:) yes that looked messy see http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/828/text4469.png/ do you think thats fine anyway? |
| 18:10:10 | lebellium | that looks messy :S |
| 18:11:00 | pixelma | I guess it could get a lot better with some alignment but I'm not sure if enough |
| 18:14:18 | CIA-10 | Commit e67a1af in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: fuze+: the radio chip needs a few milliseconds to power up |
| 18:15:29 | gartral | pixelma: hello! |
| 18:16:32 | CIA-10 | e67a1af build result: All green |
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| 18:21:50 | perfectdrug | pixelma: that is with allignment http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/alligned.png/ |
| 18:24:10 | Torne | funman: you don't need to be an admin to add yourself to the group; just a committer |
| 18:24:20 | bluebrother | perfectdrug: you could put "Down" and "Select at the bottom (on a single line) to make the sides less cramped |
| 18:24:24 | pixelma | perfectdrug: not bad actually (also the actual picture - nice work). One thing to think about is *IMO* if the "User button" really neads the "button" |
| 18:24:28 | Torne | funman: and i don't think it's a great idea to allow tag creation all the time because tags are not really undo-able |
| 18:25:51 | Torne | funman: that's certainly up for discussoin, but for now you should be able to do it as i described |
| 18:26:23 | funman | how? |
| 18:26:39 | funman | i mean how do i add myself to this group |
| 18:26:45 | Torne | go to the lsit of groups, and add yourself |
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| 18:26:58 | funman | hmm i had to go through admin |
| 18:27:38 | funman | tag pushed |
| 18:27:38 | gartral | htfhfkytmgyfyfyjfndhtdhsdhrdthjdtjghl v vf,ktf |
| 18:27:42 | gartral | Whoops |
| 18:27:48 | bluebrother | gartral: good idea! |
| 18:27:50 | bluebrother | :) |
| 18:27:51 | gartral | sorry all, dropped my keyboard |
| 18:28:35 | Torne | funman: anyway, yeah. once a tag gets pushed to the server, clients will never re-fetch or remove it |
| 18:28:39 | perfectdrug | pixelma: just"User" sounds weird no? bluebrother: yeah may be I just thought the space left and right is "free" because the height is fixed to 100mm but I am no manual expert and not sure about this limitation |
| 18:28:41 | gartral | bluebrother: :P went too plug in a hub, dropped keyboard.. |
| 18:28:53 | Torne | i.e. you can't undo or replace the tag without telling everyone to manually edit it out of their local repo |
| 18:29:10 | pixelma | perfectdrug: maybe taking bluebrother's suggestion a bit further - on the bottom row: User(left), Select (in the middle), Down (to the right - to get Up/left in one column and Right/Down in the other) where the side labels are still in the same alignment as the above ones? |
| 18:29:13 | funman | Torne: i think i did that already |
| 18:29:20 | CIA-10 | 1db74db build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (Michael Sevakis committed) |
| 18:29:29 | Torne | what? |
| 18:29:34 | funman | deleting remote tags |
| 18:29:42 | bluebrother | perfectdrug: I guess that really depends on how it looks after building the manual |
| 18:29:46 | Torne | ..when? |
| 18:29:51 | funman | not in rockbox |
| 18:29:59 | Torne | oh. |
| 18:30:09 | funman | and update worked correctly |
| 18:30:19 | pixelma | perfectdrug: the remote pictures have labels above and below too |
| 18:30:24 | jhMikeS | I didn't commit squat !! |
| 18:30:25 | funman | anyway we need to tag releases of various and numerous tools |
| 18:30:47 | Torne | funman: updating *does not* work correctly, i assure you |
| 18:30:55 | Torne | tags are only fetched once; new values do not overwrite |
| 18:31:15 | Torne | there is a long screed on why you should not try and delete or replace them in published repos in git help tag :) |
| 18:31:16 | funman | well ok, let's assume committers will not screw up everything? |
| 18:31:35 | funman | a few people use (read) tags anyway i guess |
| 18:31:50 | Torne | most of the tags are read by every clone |
| 18:31:57 | Torne | if the tag points to a revision that's fetched by the fetchspec you get the tag |
| 18:32:00 | jhMikeS | what the hell is CIA-10 saying now? |
| 18:32:23 | funman | Torne: ok |
| 18:32:49 | Torne | anyway, we can configure it differnetly if this is too much hassle. |
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| 18:33:07 | Torne | or you could just leave yourself in that group forever |
| 18:33:28 | funman | i'll document the steps on UsingGit |
| 18:34:27 | * | Torne nods |
| 18:34:29 | Torne | Thanks |
| 18:34:41 | Torne | we can always change it whenver |
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| 18:36:05 | jhMikeS | really, why's my commit showing twice now in the table (67dd4d6 and 1db74db) |
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| 18:37:27 | funman | jhMikeS: it must be my tag |
| 18:37:44 | funman | http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=tag;h=1db74dba76f7c4134fb53165599c2edaf754a773 |
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| 18:38:15 | funman | we should not build tags i think |
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| 18:39:53 | Torne | we shouldn't build anything except refs/heads/master for now, in fact :) |
| 18:40:04 | pamaury | did someone ever had this error message: |
| 18:40:04 | pamaury | /home/pamaury/project/rockbox/myrockbox/firmware/target/arm/s3c2440/crt0.S:791: Error: unaligned opcodes detected in executable segment |
| 18:40:05 | pamaury | ? |
| 18:40:12 | Torne | as currently our build infrastructure would put the result of hte build in the same place as curent builds |
| 18:40:26 | jhMikeS | I see....hmm |
| 18:41:02 | jhMikeS | pamaury: weird |
| 18:41:29 | pamaury | that's not with HEAD, that a custom port but I never had this message before and the output doesn't really help |
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| 18:42:28 | perfectdrug | pixelma not sure if I could follow you but it doesn't look any better, the arrows for select and down de oesn't look good this way |
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| 18:43:11 | perfectdrug | s/de oesn't/don't |
| 18:44:10 | perfectdrug | didn't thought that this would be so difficult even more than the image itself :D |
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| 18:46:56 | pixelma | that's a weird statement then, if you're not sure you understood... got the SVG somewhere? |
| 18:50:34 | perfectdrug | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/283924/samsungyp-r0messed3.svg |
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| 18:57:30 | gartral | here's a question on the sansa e200v1: has the bootloader changed from the 2008-12-11T22:14:50 version? |
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| 19:04:51 | pixelma | perfectdrug: amiconn.dyndns.org/~marianne/samsungyp-r0messed4.png">http://amiconn.dyndns.org/~marianne/samsungyp-r0messed4.png (not sure though) |
| 19:05:24 | pixelma | if it's much better, I mean |
| 19:08:09 | bluebrother | pixelma: nice :) |
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| 19:10:58 | * | pixelma scrolls back to get to the flyspray task number |
| 19:14:01 | perfectdrug | pixelma: yeah thats fine thanks, could you please create the pdf while you are at it aswell? |
| 19:15:11 | pixelma | not sure, I only got a remote access to a linux box here and have to remember some commands |
| 19:15:28 | pixelma | I'll try though |
| 19:16:04 | pamaury | damn, I can't get rid of this assembler error message |
| 19:16:31 | perfectdrug | I corrected http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12407 also |
| 19:17:08 | gartral | pixelma: if I remember correctly, you guys used latex too make the manuals.. right? |
| 19:17:24 | bluebrother | gartral: yes |
| 19:21:03 | pixelma | perfectdrug: your SVG wasn't saved by inkscape, or? (I'm just wondering why my file is a bit bigger) |
| 19:22:20 | perfectdrug | I only use inkscape |
| 19:22:28 | pixelma | ah, hmm |
| 19:23:21 | pixelma | whatever. It doesn't play a big role anyway as it isn't megabytes away or so |
| 19:23:53 | bluebrother | perhaps a different version saving things slightly different? |
| 19:24:11 | pixelma | possible, I think mine is a bit outdated |
| 19:24:59 | pixelma | and it's usually just a bit "noise" and comments in the text part, there's no visual difference |
| 19:29:25 | perfectdrug | so I have to go, see you later |
| 19:31:31 | pixelma | my version just uploads |
| 19:31:51 | pixelma | once rockbox.org responds |
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| 19:32:43 | Blue_Dude | Been having a weird bug lately where I turn on Rockbox and the bookmark file has been wiped out. Anyone else seeing this? |
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| 19:36:24 | pamaury | it's amazing at which pace our codebase changes |
| 19:37:29 | pamaury | I've not touched a port for a few months and there tons of breakage |
| 19:38:34 | pixelma | bluebrother, kugel: in case one of you would want to commit, please wait a moment for my next upload - I'm putting the labels on a different layer (maybe that got lost somewhere) - and will also add the small image for the build (etc.) table |
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| 19:46:06 | pixelma | could someone look up the naming scheme for the small pics for me (I believe they are in the www branch(?))? |
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| 19:48:17 | Blue_Dude | Anyway, having issues with the most-recent.bmark file being deleted on startup (I have Rockbox set to startup in the bookmarks screen, which pops up with an empty splash). Sometimes it loads with only the first two or three bookmarks showing, but then displays normally when backed out and into the bookmark screen. I'm going to rebase and rebuild, but this is a problem. |
| 19:48:28 | perfectdrug | pixelma: I already added the small image in the first post of the task :) |
| 19:48:41 | pixelma | oh, sorry |
| 19:50:19 | kugel | what#s the pdf for? |
| 19:51:30 | pixelma | latex uses it for the manual pdf, IIRC |
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| 19:52:15 | funman | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingGit#Tagging |
| 19:52:33 | kugel | pixelma: pdflatex can read eps files directly |
| 19:52:53 | funman | bluebrother: any update on your release scripts? |
| 19:53:18 | funman | the (known) bricked clipv2 count since it was fixed in git is now 1 |
| 19:53:48 | funman | i need to make a new mkamsboot as well |
| 19:53:49 | pixelma | kugel: that's how it was done so far - there are no eps files in our codebase. I admit though that I never questioned it, maybe bluebrother knows more |
| 19:54:11 | bluebrother | funman: I'm working on it right now. |
| 19:55:19 | funman | great, i'll make the mkamsboot builds then |
| 19:56:02 | bluebrother | pixelma: pdflatex does _not_ understand eps files. latex does understand eps (but doesn't understand most other formats) while for pdflatex this is the other way round. |
| 19:56:18 | bluebrother | It's _possible_ that recent versions of pdflatex added support for reading eps directly |
| 19:56:40 | bluebrother | or converting it automatically |
| 19:56:40 | pixelma | rockbox.org is slow :\ at least not down though |
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| 19:56:58 | bluebrother | but I haven't followed the latest development in the LaTeX camp. |
| 19:57:37 | bluebrother | http://chi3x10.wordpress.com/2009/06/18/eps-and-pdflatex-no-more-converting-eps-to-pdf/ |
| 19:58:47 | bluebrother | I don't think we want to make pdflatex call other programs. We _could_ put this into the Makefile and have that convert eps files first. |
| 19:59:33 | kugel | could also use a real image format instead of the odd eps/pdf |
| 19:59:38 | bluebrother | not sure if the added dependency is worth it −− the images in question are usually generated once and change never. It's not screenshots ... |
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| 20:00:32 | kugel | is it really a dependency? graphicx comes with virtually every latex installation doesnt it? |
| 20:00:36 | bluebrother | that "odd" format means we can use vector graphics. Which we want |
| 20:01:20 | bluebrother | graphicx is the normal package for handling graphics. |
| 20:02:19 | bluebrother | that doesn't change the fact that pdflatex doesn't handle eps as image format. Unfortunately. |
| 20:02:31 | kugel | which format means we can use vector graphics? |
| 20:03:17 | pixelma | svg, (eps), pdf |
| 20:03:36 | bluebrother | this package could be interesting: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/support/purifyeps |
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| 20:03:55 | funman | bluebrother: http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,85 |
| 20:04:05 | kugel | arent graphics rasterized in pdfs? |
| 20:04:26 | bluebrother | hmm, that's a perl script. Not much of an issue though |
| 20:04:34 | bluebrother | no. pdf can handle vector graphics. |
| 20:04:41 | bluebrother | it can also handle bitmap formats. |
| 20:04:46 | bluebrother | whatever you put in |
| 20:04:51 | kugel | didnt know |
| 20:05:26 | bluebrother | you can even put javascript into pdf |
| 20:07:00 | bluebrother | kugel: that was quite an interesting talk about pdf: http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/Fahrplan/events/4221.en.html |
| 20:07:48 | bluebrother | funman: hmm. We already use that for ipodpatcher and sansapatcher. |
| 20:08:07 | pamaury | what is the new synonym for invalidate_dcache_range ? |
| 20:08:14 | funman | bluebrother: do they use libtools.make ? |
| 20:08:39 | bluebrother | yes. |
| 20:09:08 | bluebrother | I've converted all the tools in rbutil/ except bin2c in rbutil/tools |
| 20:09:10 | funman | bluebrother: hm we can add it unconditionally to CFLAGS i guess |
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| 20:09:29 | bluebrother | I guess it wouldn't hurt to always use it on Windows, yes. |
| 20:09:54 | bluebrother | but then it also makes sense to remove it from ipodpatcher and sansapatcher CFLAGS :) |
| 20:10:13 | kugel | pamaury: there's commit, commit_discard and discard, take your pick :) |
| 20:10:23 | pamaury | I think it's discard |
| 20:10:36 | pamaury | :) |
| 20:10:56 | pamaury | the s3c2440 tree is really dying, isn't dma-s3c2440.c used ? |
| 20:11:44 | funman | bluebrother: G#85 (updated) |
| 20:11:50 | funman | gerrit#85 |
| 20:11:58 | funman | bah |
| 20:13:31 | bluebrother | I think I broke the gerrit detection regexp recently :o |
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| 20:34:29 | funman | bluebrother: ok for that change ? |
| 20:35:12 | funman | ah you approvied it already :) |
| 20:35:25 | bluebrother | funman: right, just wanted to say that :) |
| 20:35:42 | bluebrother | yay, it seems to compile at least. |
| 20:36:14 | bluebrother | note to self: blob hashes are not necessarily unique as key for filenames |
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| 20:36:34 | CIA-10 | Commit db3afb0 in rockbox by Rafaël Carré: Make sure we use POSIX/C99 printf() when building for windows |
| 20:38:51 | funman | mkamsboot 1.6 tagged and binaries sent to Bagder |
| 20:39:03 | funman | it built almost flawlessly |
| 20:39:36 | funman | had to run ranlib manually for windows and remove /Developers/usr/bin from PATH on osx (else it'd use a 'cc' which didn't know about powerpc) |
| 20:40:27 | funman | Bagder: should i edit the wiki to point to funman/mkamsboot-1.6/">http://people.videolan.org/~funman/mkamsboot-1.6/ before you can upload the new binaries? |
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| 21:07:39 | bluebrother^ | hmm, I need to do something about the keywords we used for releases as well :/ |
| 21:17:23 | funman | keywords? |
| 21:18:47 | bluebrother^ | svn:keywords |
| 21:19:05 | bluebrother^ | previously expanded in version.h but that obviously doesn't work anymore. |
| 21:19:40 | bluebrother^ | maybe it makes sense using version.sh at some point. Though I'd like to avoid that additional dependency on sh, which is ugly on Windows |
| 21:19:44 | funman | i used export VERSION=1.6 before building |
| 21:20:01 | bluebrother^ | Rockbox Utility doesn't do that. |
| 21:20:12 | bluebrother^ | RockboxUtility-rbootloader_clipv2_v5-5-ge67a1af-64bit.tar.bz2 is a bit of a broken filename :) |
| 21:20:39 | funman | you can tag first and parse a bit git describe output |
| 21:21:02 | bluebrother^ | though that's HEAD. Should work for a tag ... |
| 21:21:03 | funman | even abort if the current version isn't tagged |
| 21:21:04 | * | bluebrother^ tries |
| 21:21:26 | bluebrother^ | bootloader_clipv2_v5-5-ge67a1af is the output of git describe :) |
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| 21:22:42 | funman | hum why doesn't it use mkamsboot 1.6 tag? |
| 21:25:08 | bluebrother^ | maybe because I haven't pulled since? |
| 21:25:21 | bluebrother^ | need to check that ... |
| 21:25:53 | kugel | requiring tagging before doing the final build sounds nasty |
| 21:26:26 | bluebrother^ | why? Besides, it's not required. |
| 21:28:15 | kugel | "abort if the current version isn't tagged" |
| 21:29:50 | bluebrother^ | ? |
| 21:30:31 | funman | bluebrother^: doesn't work for me either |
| 21:30:43 | funman | kugel: when you make releases .. |
| 21:31:48 | funman | bah |
| 21:31:54 | * | bluebrother^ confused |
| 21:31:55 | funman | i pushed a tag which points to the wrong commit |
| 21:32:19 | funman | http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=commit;h=fd461d827382b6d8c8acc214292d8b548476e25a |
| 21:32:32 | funman | http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=commit;h=db3afb03a26868b00011e9aab9733643440bc03a |
| 21:33:03 | funman | the commit i tagged doesn't have the reviewed-by |
| 21:34:01 | funman | and i can't rewrite it |
| 21:34:59 | funman | bluebrother^: if you tag HEAD, git describe returns the tag's name and only that |
| 21:35:20 | bluebrother^ | funman: yes, I know :) |
| 21:35:28 | bluebrother^ | the problem is when I don't have a tag. |
| 21:35:38 | funman | so -> RockboxUtiity-rrbutil_1.2.12-64bit.tar.bz2 |
| 21:35:45 | bluebrother^ | git describe seems to use the most recent tag, which I nor necessarily want. |
| 21:36:07 | bluebrother^ | I'm alreay at RockboxUtility-v1.2.11-64bit.tar.bz2 for tags :) |
| 21:36:20 | bluebrother^ | though it's really hackish right now |
| 21:36:23 | funman | vXX should be for rockbox only |
| 21:41:33 | funman | http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/changes/85/85/2 : 85/85/2 and mkamsboot_1.6 http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=summary : master |
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| 22:10:27 | CIA-10 | Commit 909b96f in rockbox by Dominik Riebeling: Python module to get (some) files from the repository. |
| 22:10:28 | CIA-10 | Commit 001eb3b in rockbox by Dominik Riebeling: Update deployment script for git. |
| 22:10:28 | CIA-10 | Commit 3131dd5 in rockbox by Dominik Riebeling: Bump version to 1.2.12. |
| 22:10:57 | bluebrother^ | ok, so now to figure if building still works on all OSes |
| 22:11:34 | bluebrother^ | argh, forgot Info.plist |
| 22:12:35 | kugel | bluebrother^: why not download the files via http? |
| 22:12:57 | CIA-10 | Commit 13e640c in rockbox by Dominik Riebeling: Update version to 1.2.12, OS X specific file. |
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| 22:14:50 | bluebrother^ | kugel: because it's simpler to implement that way. |
| 22:15:15 | bluebrother^ | scraping the website is something I want to do later, but local git has manpages. |
| 22:15:49 | bluebrother^ | and I'm pretty busy with other stuff these days as well |
| 22:16:31 | kugel | alright |
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| 23:42:56 | saratoga | does the SVN version of rbutil support patching the unzipped firmware files from sandisk? |
| 23:43:58 | saratoga | if so, i'll add it to the changelog |
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| 23:45:49 | lebellium | What about the R0 pic finally guys? Ready to be pushed on the build page? |
| 23:47:50 | bluebrother^ | saratoga: yes, but that's already in the changelog in the wiki |
| 23:47:59 | saratoga | oh, must have missed it |
| 23:48:16 | bluebrother^ | (2nd entry from the bottom in the svn changes list) |
| 23:48:27 | saratoga | ugh yeah there it is |
| 23:48:36 | * | bluebrother^ already started wondering if he forgot to add it :) |
| 23:48:50 | saratoga | is there a binary somewhere i can test? |
| 23:50:06 | bluebrother^ | no −− that change went in after the switch to git, and no svn / git build exists since then |
| 23:50:13 | bluebrother^ | what OS? Windows? |
| 23:50:21 | saratoga | yeah |
| 23:50:27 | saratoga | if you have it handy, otherwise don't worry |
| 23:50:45 | bluebrother^ | I can push you one of the test builds I cross compiled earlier today, but cross compiling for Windows is problematic with TTS support |
| 23:50:51 | bluebrother^ | s/TTS/Screen Reader/ |
| 23:51:01 | saratoga | can you do it without, i don't need screen reading |
| 23:51:10 | bluebrother^ | something seems to break in that case −− NVDA always tells me about "unknown" :( |
| 23:51:30 | saratoga | (i've never used the voice interface in rockbox or rbutil anyway) |
| 23:52:01 | bluebrother^ | sure, give me a few minutes |
| 23:52:13 | bluebrother^ | or rather the machine and network :) |
| 23:56:08 | * | [Saint_] demands only the finest hand flipped bits |
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