| 00:00:21 | bluebrother^ | saratoga: http://tinyurl.com/rbutil-dev |
| 00:01:23 | bluebrother^ | it will identify itself as 1.2.12, since that's what 1.2.12 should become once I got the build setup working again |
| 00:03:57 | saratoga | bluebrother^: works great, i just pasted the URL into the dialog without even downloading it and the file patched just fine |
| 00:04:31 | saratoga | how soon until an official release? |
| 00:05:40 | funman | just tested the windows version in wine, works great |
| 00:06:10 | bluebrother^ | saratoga: would have been tonight, if my build machine wasn't acting up |
| 00:06:25 | bluebrother^ | so it will become next couple of days |
| 00:06:51 | bluebrother^ | so you pasted the url into the file open dialog? That works? Wow. |
| 00:07:06 | saratoga | yeah |
| 00:07:11 | saratoga | thats a standard windows feature though |
| 00:07:26 | bluebrother^ | must be, since we have absolutely no code for that in Rockbox Utility :) |
| 00:07:36 | saratoga | in the background IE is actually downloading it, and the player gets a link to it in the temporary internet files folder |
| 00:07:42 | saratoga | err program, not device |
| 00:07:45 | bluebrother^ | though I never had the idea of actually trying it |
| 00:08:03 | bluebrother^ | but it's really nice. |
| 00:08:09 | funman | bluebrother^: what machien do you need? |
| 00:08:17 | saratoga | its such a neat feature, MS got into antitrust trouble for it :) |
| 00:08:53 | bluebrother^ | funman: the problem is Windows. I have a running machine but it causes problems with windres, likely related to the checkout. |
| 00:09:00 | funman | ah |
| 00:09:06 | funman | it doesn't build with mingw? |
| 00:09:21 | bluebrother^ | I can cross compile for Windows, but something with mingw-cross-env is causing screen reader support to break |
| 00:09:36 | * | bluebrother^ has an idea |
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| 00:14:01 | bluebrother^ | argh. Stupid Windows. |
| 00:15:56 | CIA-10 | Commit 64f71e6 in rockbox by Dominik Riebeling: When writing data from repository open file as binary. |
| 00:16:30 | bluebrother^ | building on the final machine has to wait until tomorrow though. |
| 00:17:58 | saratoga | with zip support, how hard would it be to grab the sandisk firmware link from a file on the download server? that way people wouldn't have to provide a binary at all |
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| 00:33:32 | JdGordon | gevaerts: if we are going to do a early 3.11 we are running out of time |
| 00:34:55 | funman | saratoga: why just not put the link in rbutil ? |
| 00:35:46 | bluebrother^ | saratoga: the problem is that we would need to implement downloading. We can't rely on some IE magic on Linux and OS X :) |
| 00:35:51 | aarch | is the graphics api supported for sansa clip plus ? |
| 00:36:12 | funman | bluebrother^: we could use libcurl, i know the maintainer ;) |
| 00:36:16 | bluebrother^ | plus, I'd like to avoid having fixed links in Rockbox Utility to 3rd party sites. Such links can change at any time |
| 00:36:42 | bluebrother^ | funman: thanks, but since Rockbox Utility is Qt based we already use the http support it provides :) |
| 00:36:43 | funman | that'd fix the daily question on how to uninstall rockbox on sansa ams |
| 00:36:47 | funman | ah right |
| 00:36:56 | funman | aarch: which ai? |
| 00:36:57 | funman | api* |
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| 00:37:56 | funman | bluebrother^: in practice the links to sansa didn't change, and we will notice shortly when they do |
| 00:38:11 | funman | we'd still need fallback to manual file open |
| 00:38:44 | aarch | funman: i mean this: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/GraphicsAPI |
| 00:39:38 | funman | Existing implementations: |
| 00:39:39 | funman | Black & white core (Targets with monochrome displays) |
| 00:39:54 | funman | that includes black, blue and yellow displays |
| 00:42:04 | aarch | okay. got some compilation errors when I tested it out, but maybe it was just my sloppiness |
| 00:42:22 | aarch | yep... forgot rb-> :) |
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| 02:11:26 | webguest885 | Hi |
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| 02:13:33 | webguest885 | How would I bypass Rockbox on my Archos Jukebox Recorder? |
| 02:13:49 | [Saint] | Define "bypass". |
| 02:14:17 | webguest885 | Get to the stock OS |
| 02:14:23 | webguest885 | Not run Rockbox at boot |
| 02:16:44 | gartral | webguest885: uninstall the bootloader? |
| 02:17:13 | webguest885 | Installing only required dropping a .ajz and .rockbox file on the HD |
| 02:17:17 | webguest885 | No bootloader |
| 02:18:43 | webguest885 | Never mind, found my answer in the manual. Maybe I should have check there first... |
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| 03:19:51 | limescout | hi, I'm working on my first plug-in and I can't find out how to get input from different buttons |
| 03:20:30 | limescout | in the example on the website, button_get only gets the status of the center button on an iPod |
| 03:20:59 | limescout | how do I use the other buttons on the DAP as well? |
| 03:21:26 | JdGordon | have a look at pluginlib_actions |
| 03:21:38 | limescout | alright |
| 03:21:45 | JdGordon | button_get will get you any button though |
| 03:21:56 | JdGordon | it returns a bitmask of the pressed button |
| 03:22:28 | limescout | Ah, ok |
| 03:22:56 | JdGordon | but we would prefer you use pluginlib_actions because it is far easier to port the plugin to a new dap |
| 03:23:21 | limescout | alright, I'll keep that in mind |
| 03:23:50 | JdGordon | [Saint_]: did you play with the %and() and %or() tags? |
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| 09:29:43 | CIA-10 | Commit a969c4d in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: (Author: Frank Gevaerts) rocklife is much more a demo than a game. |
| 09:30:20 | kugel | gerrit is really nice |
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| 09:34:14 | pixelma | are the builds hanging, or is it a problem in my end? |
| 09:36:07 | kugel | perhaps the commit hash is too odd |
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| 09:40:28 | pixelma | kugel: so, does this commit contain the respective changes to the manual as well? |
| 09:41:04 | kugel | pixelma: yes |
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| 14:08:46 | pamaury | would someone have an objection if I had an entry to the debug menu for the fuze+ (imx233 more generally) that dumps "all" registers to a file to allow for offline processing ? The reason for this is that the imx233 hardware is complicated, has hundreds of registers and it's just simpler to dump everything to file and use an offline tool to inspect the content (which can even be generated automatically) |
| 14:09:32 | pamaury | (of course there is a bit of redundancy with the debug screens but the debug screens only show a limited amount of information) |
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| 14:17:33 | Misanthropos | I noticed a slight difference on left/right channels using clip+ with a negative balance setting. Somehow it feels like left and right channels are not increasing/decreasing to the same amount. I am not sure if its because of my ear or if its related to calculations. |
| 14:18:41 | Misanthropos | When I listen to audiobooks I notice the difference on lower volumes - if you change volume eg from -25 to -24 or -26... it loses it balance a bit |
| 14:18:55 | gevaerts | pamaury: if that's more or less safe (i.e. there aren't any regisers that cause stuff to happen on read), that sounds fine to me |
| 14:19:17 | pamaury | of course, I would only dump the registers which are harmless |
| 14:19:37 | ukleinek | Misanthropos: maybe that's because volume has a different stepping than balance |
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| 14:20:28 | wodz | pamaury: for this very purpose it would be much more suitable to push data over serial link to the dedicated decoder software on PC side |
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| 14:21:11 | pamaury | wodz: no, because that would require usb and thus prevent some states (like playback) to be dumped |
| 14:21:33 | Misanthropos | ukleinek, thats sounds like it could be the reason. So that is to be expected? |
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| 14:22:15 | gevaerts | pamaury: how? |
| 14:22:21 | wodz | pamaury: can't you suppress MSC and expose only usb-2-serial? |
| 14:22:36 | pamaury | then you need to have a build with usb serial enabled |
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| 14:23:21 | gevaerts | Ah, you want to be ble to collect dumps from ohers esily? |
| 14:23:29 | pamaury | yes |
| 14:23:53 | wodz | ok, this makes sense |
| 14:24:10 | pamaury | I already have plenty of more or less strange tools for me :) |
| 14:26:24 | ukleinek | Misanthropos: note I have very limited knowledge here, but yes, I think that's expected |
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| 14:30:09 | pamaury | perhaps this mechanism can be generalized to other platforms if found useful |
| 14:31:19 | Torne | we discussed before having a plugin that did register inspection/poking/dumping with a target-independant UI, i think ;) |
| 14:33:24 | pamaury | and what was the result ? |
| 14:35:18 | Torne | people agreed that would be nice ;) |
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| 14:38:48 | pamaury | actually my point was not about having a plugin but that's an interesting idea. |
| 14:39:57 | pamaury | the inconvenient with the plugin idea is that you need to embed a full description of the registers |
| 14:40:57 | pamaury | for the i.MX 233, I can generate it pretty much automatically |
| 14:41:46 | pamaury | if someone is willing to provide such a map for another target (say as3525), I would be willing to write the plugin itself |
| 14:44:04 | pamaury | funman perhaps ? :) |
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| 14:44:40 | wodz | pamaury: you can read map from external file this would make plugin target agnostic |
| 14:45:19 | pamaury | true, but that don't change the point, you still need to write the map :) |
| 14:45:23 | pamaury | *doesn't |
| 14:45:30 | wodz | we can probably preproces .h file from our tree |
| 14:45:32 | pamaury | perhaps you want to do it for the rk27xx ? |
| 14:45:34 | Torne | pamaury: are there any situations where having it in core would be a significant advantage? |
| 14:45:40 | Torne | i think generally a plugin would be nicer |
| 14:45:42 | pamaury | Torne: no |
| 14:45:48 | pamaury | a plugin is ok |
| 14:46:28 | pamaury | wodz: I think we should just agree on a format, at least the general idea |
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| 14:48:41 | wodz | pamaury: general idea is neat but I can see potential problems with it. Dumping registers can alter some state. With lots of registers you will need very big buffer to dump all in one run |
| 14:49:02 | wodz | saving intermediate stages will change storage related registers at least |
| 14:49:10 | pamaury | we would only dump the registers which are harmless |
| 14:49:45 | pamaury | I don't understand your problem with big buffers |
| 14:50:02 | Torne | the plugin buffer is pretty big :) |
| 14:50:22 | wodz | nevermind, I just come the same conclusion as Torne :-) |
| 14:50:25 | pamaury | say that you have 1000 registers, that's still 4 x 1000 bytes |
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| 14:50:35 | pamaury | I'm more concerned with the size of the description actually |
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| 14:53:19 | gevaerts | pamaury: how big are those descriptions? 15 bytes each? |
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| 14:54:29 | pamaury | depends on the target and what you describe. If you describe each register is a tree fashion, I would say addr+text ~ 20 bytes average |
| 14:54:45 | pamaury | but describing the actual fields of the registers is interesting too |
| 14:55:01 | pamaury | I can try for the imx233 and give you a quick overview |
| 14:55:58 | gevaerts | I think having individual bits is never going to be done for more than the first target (if even that). Too much work |
| 14:56:27 | pamaury | I can generate them automatically :) But that's optional |
| 14:56:33 | wodz | eek, individual fields is a work of processing on PC side |
| 14:56:57 | pamaury | without the fields, you need the doc which is a pain |
| 14:57:07 | gevaerts | You need the doc anyway |
| 14:57:10 | wodz | I would simply put addr val and everything else process on PC |
| 14:57:18 | gevaerts | Field values are meaningless if you don't know what they mean |
| 14:57:38 | gevaerts | The short register names can be useful I think |
| 14:58:09 | wodz | gevaerts: short as abbreviated? |
| 14:58:30 | * | Torne alllmost suggests using the register description form he invented for pycorn. |
| 14:58:33 | Torne | :) |
| 14:58:34 | gevaerts | wodz: as in the way the defines are usually named |
| 14:58:40 | Torne | (probably not viable, it is actual python) |
| 14:58:41 | pamaury | hum, let's agree on a common basis then and let room for improvements. I really would like register fields for myself but I understand it a bit of work. |
| 14:59:49 | wodz | name addr val ? |
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| 15:00:02 | pamaury | I would prefer a tree |
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| 15:00:12 | pamaury | you don't want to put all the registers at the root level |
| 15:00:23 | gevaerts | If you don't do fields, you should be able to fit in the order of 1000 registers in a 32K plugin buffer |
| 15:00:37 | Torne | a tree woudl be nice. possibly some flags or something for "cannot be read without side effects" or whatever |
| 15:00:49 | Torne | and/or read/write state? (in case we want to support poking them :) |
| 15:01:01 | wodz | are we talking about description file or the output file? |
| 15:01:53 | pamaury | we should agree on the functionality. We want a plugin to be able to 1) dump the registers to a file 2) display them in a tree fashion (perhaps with fields) 3) change their value |
| 15:02:20 | gevaerts | 4) integrate with lua ;) |
| 15:02:37 | gevaerts | And then 5), write device drivers in lua :) |
| 15:02:45 | pamaury | ouch |
| 15:03:22 | gevaerts | Seriously though, I agree with your 3 requirements |
| 15:03:34 | wodz | 6) port it to java script |
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| 15:07:17 | pamaury | depending on whether we want something really readable or not, I propose a format like: |
| 15:07:17 | pamaury | you organize the registers in a tree. Each line of the file either: 1) add a register at the current level 2) add a new level 3) close the current level |
| 15:07:17 | pamaury | For example: |
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| 15:07:17 | pamaury | +CLKCTRL |
| 15:07:17 | pamaury | PLL 0x80001000 |
| 15:07:18 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 15:07:18 | pamaury | SSP 0x80001010 |
| 15:07:21 | pamaury | - |
| 15:07:23 | pamaury | +DMA |
| 15:07:25 | pamaury | +CH0 |
| 15:07:27 | pamaury | SEMA 0x800... |
| 15:07:29 | pamaury | - |
| 15:07:32 | pamaury | +CH1 |
| 15:07:34 | pamaury | ... |
| 15:07:36 | pamaury | - |
| 15:07:38 | pamaury | ... |
| 15:07:40 | pamaury | - |
| 15:08:35 | pamaury | perhaps add some flags for R/W |
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| 15:08:47 | * | Torne suggests going ahead and using indentation for the tree. |
| 15:08:49 | gevaerts | Do we want this to be loaded from a file? |
| 15:09:03 | Torne | gevaerts: seems nice. means you can hack it without recompiling :) |
| 15:09:18 | pamaury | Torne: yeah, I though about using indentation too |
| 15:09:28 | pamaury | nicer probably |
| 15:10:18 | Torne | also would be nice to support things being offsets from their parent's base address |
| 15:10:41 | * | gevaerts nods |
| 15:10:59 | Torne | then at minimum you can copypasta bits easier. |
| 15:11:09 | Torne | maybe #include/macro if someone feels the need to go that far. |
| 15:11:33 | pamaury | perhaps have something like: |
| 15:11:33 | pamaury | <name> <addr> |
| 15:11:33 | pamaury | all subfields addresses are related to their parents |
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| 15:11:33 | pamaury | and only leaves are actual registers |
| 15:12:25 | pamaury | also make address mandatory for leaves and with an optional R/W/whatever qualifier |
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| 15:12:57 | Torne | i'd allow both addresses and offsets |
| 15:13:06 | Torne | maybe +100 or whatever |
| 15:13:27 | Torne | allowing absolute addresses lets you have, say, a group that's just a bunch of ID registers from places, or whatever |
| 15:13:35 | Torne | without having to use ridiculous offsets |
| 15:13:38 | gevaerts | I'd say addresses, offsets, and bit ranges. That gives you fields without introducing extra syntax |
| 15:13:51 | Torne | Heh |
| 15:13:59 | Torne | Are you going to allow 10,4:0 though? :) |
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| 15:14:44 | gevaerts | Let's make it masks and shifts :) |
| 15:15:14 | Torne | anyway. start with the basics ;) |
| 15:16:30 | * | pamaury wants register fields too |
| 15:16:55 | Torne | sure, but if we have a tree syntax where things can be relative to their parents that's easy to add later without breaking anything |
| 15:17:22 | pamaury | sure, but fields are quite different from the rest. |
| 15:17:25 | Torne | Not really |
| 15:17:37 | Torne | at least, i don't see why |
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| 15:18:19 | Torne | group foo at base address 0x1234 with members at offsets 0, 4, 8 looks very much like register foo at base address 0x1234 with fields at bits 0-3, 4-7 |
| 15:18:30 | pamaury | they don't really fit the <name> <addr> things, that would rather be <name> <start> <end>, except if you use masks |
| 15:18:47 | Torne | who says "addr" has to be an int? |
| 15:18:57 | Torne | 4:0 or whatever |
| 15:19:01 | pamaury | you need to be able to tell whether it's a register of a field |
| 15:19:06 | pamaury | *or |
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| 15:19:22 | gevaerts | That's a prefix |
| 15:19:41 | Torne | right. my suggestion here is "1234" is an absolute address, "+12" is an offset, "4:0" is a field |
| 15:19:44 | Torne | or similar |
| 15:19:45 | gevaerts | *0xwhatever is an address, &0xwhatever is a mask, +0xwhatever is an offset, <0xwhatever is a shift |
| 15:20:04 | Torne | 0x is icky, i would hope we can assume addresses are hex. |
| 15:20:22 | Torne | and writing fields with bit numbers looks more like a datasheet than a mask/shift.. |
| 15:20:22 | pamaury | for bitfields, decimal is useful :) |
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| 15:20:30 | Torne | yes, see under "addresses" |
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| 15:21:10 | pamaury | and converting between them is not hard, let's not add too many features in the parser |
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| 15:21:54 | kugelp | guys, this clearly needs xml |
| 15:21:58 | pamaury | no!!! |
| 15:22:29 | gevaerts | asn.1 is clearly better! |
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| 15:24:16 | pamaury | and what about the R/W thing ? some registers are dangerous |
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| 15:33:14 | pamaury | actually, I wouldn't be against describing the registers with some others format (xml ? c ?) and generating these files but that's just a suggestion |
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| 15:36:58 | pamaury | jlbiasini: hi |
| 15:37:07 | jlbiasini | hi |
| 15:37:32 | pamaury | is your fuze+ storage still non-working ? |
| 15:37:35 | jlbiasini | I saw you went forward on the radio! is it working now? |
| 15:37:47 | jlbiasini | yes that why I'm stuck |
| 15:38:01 | pamaury | It works on mine but it requires some modifications in the radio code, it's under review currently |
| 15:38:08 | pamaury | http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,84 |
| 15:38:10 | Torne | pamaury: sure, yeah, the format doesn't have to be like that on disk |
| 15:38:24 | Torne | well, not on target |
| 15:38:25 | Torne | i mean. |
| 15:38:37 | gevaerts | I think the dump file should just have address: value |
| 15:38:49 | jlbiasini | do you have any other idea to test on the broken storage? |
| 15:38:59 | Torne | gevaerts: i meant the file the plugin reads |
| 15:39:43 | jlbiasini | Anyway I ordered a new one that I should get in 2 weeks |
| 15:39:47 | pamaury | not really, I thought about it again and I don't understand why even rewriting the firmware doesn't work. Perhaps we could try to "erase" some blocks, so they would be free for allocation again but I'm really not sure if it changes anything |
| 15:40:04 | gevaerts | ah, right |
| 15:40:12 | jlbiasini | how could I erase block? |
| 15:40:40 | jlbiasini | anyway the broken device is still available for testing recover solution :D |
| 15:41:01 | pamaury | there is an emmc command for it |
| 15:41:04 | pamaury | does it boot currently ? |
| 15:41:57 | jlbiasini | yes it is even working as long as it doesn't need to write, I can listen music |
| 15:42:17 | jlbiasini | use plugin |
| 15:43:05 | pamaury | jlbiasini: will you be on irc this evening ? I have written a tool with which we could experiment |
| 15:43:47 | jlbiasini | ok I'll try to be connected |
| 15:44:14 | jlbiasini | in the meantim i'll have a lot at this emmc command |
| 15:44:21 | jlbiasini | *look |
| 15:45:32 | pamaury | the tool I wrote always to send arbitrary ssp commands to the flash, so we can try to init the emmc and send send an erase command, we don't even need to write more code normally |
| 15:45:38 | pamaury | *allows |
| 15:45:51 | jlbiasini | pamaury: ohoh in what package is it? I don't seem to have any emmc command |
| 15:46:15 | pamaury | I've not published it, it's in my tree |
| 15:46:19 | pamaury | wait a minute |
| 15:46:23 | jlbiasini | oh ok |
| 15:50:04 | gevaerts | Zagor: didn't you have a makefile at some point to generate www/playerpics from the manual svgs? |
| 15:50:44 | pamaury | jlbiasini: pamaury/pa-tools/tree/master/fuze+/recovery_util">https://github.com/pamaury/pa-tools/tree/master/fuze+/recovery_util |
| 15:51:25 | jlbiasini | pamaury: cool thanks! I'll try |
| 15:51:46 | pamaury | try to compile it first, tell me if I forgot some files |
| 15:53:10 | jlbiasini | it's in fuze+/recovery_util right? |
| 15:53:16 | pamaury | yes |
| 15:54:21 | pamaury | jlbiasini: you use it this way: https://gist.github.com/1752520 |
| 15:54:21 | pamaury | but this one only works for a sd interface, the fuze+ uses an emmc interface. I would prefer that you wait for my instructions but in case you want to try, you basically need to replicate the init sequence of mmc-imx233.c just like I reproduced the one of sd-imx233.c |
| 15:55:22 | jlbiasini | I'll wait your instruction then! :D tonight? On what time? |
| 15:56:13 | jlbiasini | there seems to be /elftosb missing |
| 15:57:01 | pamaury | yeah, you need to add symlinks to the differents tools |
| 15:57:08 | pamaury | or modify the Makefile |
| 15:57:16 | pamaury | 6pm or 7pm |
| 15:57:36 | jlbiasini | very good! |
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| 16:02:46 | jlbiasini | pamaury: now there seems to be a hdr.bin file missing... or is it related to the mmc init already? |
| 16:03:24 | pamaury | the hdr.bin file is not needed, it's just useful for a hack when the device uses an encryption key |
| 16:03:28 | pamaury | let me modify the makefile |
| 16:04:08 | pamaury | done |
| 16:05:34 | jlbiasini | ok this is compiling ok |
| 16:06:20 | jlbiasini | see you on 6 or 7 pm thrn |
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| 18:02:33 | jlbiasini | pamaury: should we try your code? do you have time to give me instruction now? |
| 18:02:47 | pamaury | I'm checking the init sequence |
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| 18:03:01 | jlbiasini | ok |
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| 18:09:32 | pamaury | jlbiasini: try this: https://gist.github.com/1753380 |
| 18:09:58 | pamaury | at the end it should hexdump the mbr, you can check that if works by looking for the 55 aa signature |
| 18:12:55 | pamaury | ah I forgot: did you add the symlinks or modify the Makefile to have the sb tools to produce recovery.sb ? |
| 18:13:47 | jlbiasini | pamaury: I cannot git clone that: it complain about a missing "fatal: https://gist.github.com/1753380/info/refs not found" |
| 18:14:14 | jlbiasini | "did you run git update-server-info on the server?" |
| 18:14:16 | pamaury | just copy paste |
| 18:14:17 | Torne | you can't clone like that |
| 18:14:18 | pamaury | ;) |
| 18:14:26 | jlbiasini | ok |
| 18:14:36 | Torne | if you want to clone it there is a url for that given that will work |
| 18:14:41 | jlbiasini | git and not gist !! :D |
| 18:14:41 | pamaury | I suggest you copy it to a file (mmc_read.sh) |
| 18:14:42 | Torne | but just the gist web url won't |
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| 18:16:34 | pamaury | jlbiasini: it is using recovery mode so the procedure is: 1) plug the fuze+ in recovery mode 2) run mmc_read.sh |
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| 18:17:12 | jlbiasini | ok |
| 18:17:56 | jlbiasini | but I have to lauch this mmc_read.sh from within the recovery_util directory, right? |
| 18:18:14 | pamaury | yes |
| 18:18:33 | pamaury | and after running make with success |
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| 18:21:59 | jlbiasini | ok, I also need sbloader and I need to be root... |
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| 18:23:30 | jlbiasini | and read_util this one I don't know where to find it... |
| 18:23:51 | pamaury | in the read_util subdirectory |
| 18:24:33 | pamaury | util_reader/ sorry |
| 18:24:58 | pamaury | you can build it with make too |
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| 18:26:15 | jlbiasini | read_util.c:122:56: warning: unused parameter ‘int_ep’ [-Wunused-parameter] is this bad? |
| 18:26:47 | pamaury | no, normal warning |
| 18:27:50 | jlbiasini | ok mmc_read now make the transfert and then "transfer error at init step" |
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| 18:28:24 | pamaury | did you run sbloader by hand before ? |
| 18:28:31 | jlbiasini | found a match at blahblah, tranfert size 1024 |
| 18:28:45 | jlbiasini | euh no? what do I have to do? |
| 18:29:21 | pamaury | ah, your sbloader is probably not up to date |
| 18:29:45 | pamaury | just replace the first line by this: |
| 18:29:45 | pamaury | ./sbloader 1024 recovery.sb && |
| 18:31:04 | jlbiasini | but I let the \ at the end, right? |
| 18:32:19 | pamaury | don't need to |
| 18:32:50 | jlbiasini | it did something! address number everywhere! what do I look for? |
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| 18:34:10 | pamaury | at the end, it should dump the mbr in hex and char form |
| 18:34:30 | pamaury | it should end with 55 aa |
| 18:35:12 | jlbiasini | hum if I'm looking the output correctly mine end with 00 00 00 00 |
| 18:35:47 | pamaury | jlbiasini: the end of the output should look like this: |
| 18:35:47 | pamaury | https://gist.github.com/1753380#comments |
| 18:36:32 | pamaury | can you pastebin the whole output actually ? |
| 18:36:39 | pamaury | that will be faster* |
| 18:36:59 | jlbiasini | ouch! my dump is 2 line long!! |
| 18:37:39 | pamaury | not normal :) |
| 18:37:55 | pamaury | then paste it here |
| 18:38:06 | pamaury | mine is actually hundreds lines long |
| 18:38:42 | jlbiasini | also it seem to be trying several time because the output get repeated |
| 18:38:55 | jlbiasini | 20 00 10 e0 73 02 00 00 80 80 ff 40 30 9c 05 08 ...s......@0... |
| 18:39:02 | jlbiasini | 74 51 99 14 26 c2 03 35 00 00 00 00 tQ..&..5........ |
| 18:39:24 | pamaury | the sends lots of commands, they look the same but are not, please pastebin the entire output |
| 18:39:30 | pamaury | *the script |
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| 18:42:25 | jlbiasini | pamaury: https://gist.github.com/1753579 |
| 18:44:07 | pamaury | hum, apparently the emmc is not yet ready, the script is a bit hacky on this point, give me a minute to get something more reliable |
| 18:44:18 | jlbiasini | ok |
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| 18:50:00 | pamaury | jlbiasini: try this: https://gist.github.com/1753380#comments |
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| 18:52:32 | jlbiasini | pamaury: Yes this way I've got my 55 aa |
| 18:54:28 | pamaury | ok, some it means we can correctly send commands to the emmc |
| 18:54:42 | pamaury | now the idea is to erase some blocks and see what it does |
| 18:54:46 | jlbiasini | https://gist.github.com/1753671 |
| 18:55:17 | jlbiasini | there are different results not all the time the big output |
| 18:55:36 | jlbiasini | also two lined ones with different values |
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| 18:55:53 | pamaury | some values are not deterministic in the output |
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| 18:56:07 | jlbiasini | cool!! Let's broke the broken device! :D |
| 18:56:22 | pamaury | all you need to plug the device, run mmc_read.sh and if you get the aa 55 don't do anything and wait for my instructions :) |
| 18:56:28 | pamaury | how large is the internal storage ? |
| 18:56:42 | jlbiasini | 16 GB |
| 18:57:03 | jlbiasini | also Byte not bit |
| 18:57:38 | jlbiasini | no problem I wait |
| 18:58:51 | jlbiasini | anyway I notice the commend does not work twice in a row: I first have to unplug it before retrying the mmc_read... is it normal? |
| 18:58:59 | pamaury | yes |
| 18:59:15 | pamaury | because it tries to resend the firmware every time |
| 18:59:26 | pamaury | let's call it a security measure :) |
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| 19:00:18 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
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| 19:01:33 | pamaury | sorry for the delay, I'm making the computations |
| 19:01:51 | kumy | hi all :) |
| 19:02:01 | jlbiasini | i'll survive :D |
| 19:02:11 | pamaury | kumy: you are the fuze+ owner with the flash problem ? |
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| 19:02:28 | kumy | pamaury: here I am :) do you have some time to help me flash my fuze+ again ? |
| 19:02:32 | kumy | pamaury: yes :) |
| 19:02:47 | pamaury | kumy: I'm busy right now with jlbiasini but after that I can help you |
| 19:02:56 | pamaury | jlbiasini: send this |
| 19:03:21 | pamaury | ./util_reader/read_util 066f:3780 ssp_cmd 2 read resp 17 0x1D8F5AC - |
| 19:03:25 | kumy | pamaury: no problem, just ping me |
| 19:03:37 | pamaury | it should *not* output a big hex blob |
| 19:03:56 | jlbiasini | it did |
| 19:03:56 | pamaury | except if I did the math wrong |
| 19:04:04 | jlbiasini | :( |
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| 19:05:16 | jlbiasini | https://gist.github.com/1753746 |
| 19:05:33 | jlbiasini | hey so I'm not the only one with a flash problem? |
| 19:05:54 | pamaury | ah ok, it's cylinder aligned, replace the hex number with 0x1DA9000 |
| 19:06:13 | pamaury | jlbiasini: it's not the same problem, he ran output of power during a flash update, so the firmware is probably corrupted |
| 19:07:16 | kumy | pamaury, jlbiasini: this is a good description of the problem |
| 19:07:39 | jlbiasini | pamaury: big hex block strike back... |
| 19:08:33 | pamaury | jlbiasini: that's impossible ! It's supposed to read a non-existent sector ! |
| 19:08:34 | jlbiasini | https://gist.github.com/1753772 |
| 19:09:20 | pamaury | are you sure you only have 16Gb ? |
| 19:10:09 | pamaury | ok, let's be sure: try with 0x3B6F000 |
| 19:10:17 | jlbiasini | euh? I didn't look exatly the size of the partition! I have the 16GB model |
| 19:10:30 | jlbiasini | it might be not exactly 16GB |
| 19:11:16 | jlbiasini | /dev/sde1 2048 7831551 3914752 b W95 FAT32 |
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| 19:11:56 | jlbiasini | jep no big hex block this time |
| 19:12:52 | pamaury | ok, so we'll try to erase a few sector at the end of the FAT partition |
| 19:13:08 | jlbiasini | hit me :D |
| 19:14:26 | pamaury | run this and pastebin the output |
| 19:14:26 | pamaury | ./util_reader/read_util 066f:3780 ssp_cmd 2 nodata resp 35 0x1D8F5A2 - |
| 19:14:53 | pamaury | it sets the address of the first sector to erase (CMD35, ERASE_GROUP_START ) |
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| 19:16:22 | jlbiasini | what should be the output? |
| 19:16:45 | pamaury | numbers as usual, but the exact value is important, to check for success |
| 19:17:21 | jlbiasini | I have only a 2 line hex block |
| 19:17:41 | pamaury | that's normal, what is the value after resp0= |
| 19:17:42 | pamaury | ? |
| 19:18:03 | jlbiasini | 0x900 |
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| 19:18:31 | pamaury | good, it means success and stayed in tran mode |
| 19:19:13 | pamaury | now same procedure with this: |
| 19:19:13 | pamaury | ./util_reader/read_util 066f:3780 ssp_cmd 2 nodata resp 36 0x1D8F5A8 - |
| 19:19:13 | pamaury | it sets the address of the first sector to erase (CMD36, ERASE_GROUP_END ) |
| 19:20:11 | jlbiasini | resp0=0x900 |
| 19:20:16 | kumy | ^first^end^ ? |
| 19:21:13 | pamaury | good, now we will erase ! |
| 19:21:13 | pamaury | ./util_reader/read_util 066f:3780 ssp_cmd 2 nodata resp 38 0 - |
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| 19:22:03 | jlbiasini | resp0=0x800 |
| 19:24:08 | jlbiasini | so now? unplug replug format? |
| 19:24:52 | pamaury | seems to have work. No send a last command to get the status: |
| 19:24:53 | pamaury | ./util_reader/read_util 066f:3780 ssp_cmd 2 nodata resp 13 0x1000 - |
| 19:25:22 | jlbiasini | resp0=0x800 |
| 19:27:52 | pamaury | hum, ok I guess this is normal, at least no error is signalled. So it means erase can work. The flash can't be completely dead if it accepts that |
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| 19:28:28 | jlbiasini | good |
| 19:29:10 | pamaury | if you are willing to take the risk, you could erase more sectors and see if writes suceed then. But ideally, we should only erase the unused sectors of course |
| 19:30:24 | jlbiasini | well it's mostly full of file anyway |
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| 19:31:30 | jlbiasini | well it's mostly full of file anyway |
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| 19:32:08 | jlbiasini | so to erase I set the first sector, then the last and tell to erase, riht? |
| 19:32:15 | pamaury | yes |
| 19:33:08 | pamaury | you could try to lower the first sector, to erase a few megabytes for example and see if it still suceeds |
| 19:33:22 | pamaury | and then try to boot and write something |
| 19:34:15 | jlbiasini | how many bit are the adress? 4? |
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| 19:34:39 | pamaury | all bits, 0x1D8F5A2 is a sector address |
| 19:34:46 | jlbiasini | ok |
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| 19:35:06 | pamaury | if I'm correct, the last sector of the FAT partition is 0x1D8F5AC-1 |
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| 19:36:09 | pamaury | I let you experiment |
| 19:36:21 | jlbiasini | ok |
| 19:36:40 | pamaury | I have no idea if it will ever work again :( |
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| 19:36:48 | pamaury | kumy: still there ? are you running linux ? |
| 19:37:22 | kumy | pamaury: here... linux.. of course ;) |
| 19:37:26 | jlbiasini | As I said I already order another one anyway, but its interesting to see what can be done however |
| 19:37:49 | pamaury | jlbiasini: what is the address of the bootloader on the server ? |
| 19:38:24 | jlbiasini | wow good question! wait I will have a look |
| 19:38:26 | pamaury | kumy: do you have the build tools ? |
| 19:38:46 | kumy | pamaury: yes, also have of .sb, and a patched one |
| 19:39:11 | kumy | already played with sbloader... |
| 19:39:21 | funman | pamaury: why do you need a map ? |
| 19:39:23 | kumy | recovery.sb just upload fine |
| 19:39:29 | funman | write all 4GB to a file, done! :) |
| 19:39:57 | pamaury | kumy: you will need to send a special version of the bootloader to be able to dd to the firmware partition |
| 19:40:22 | kumy | pamaury: ok, waiting for your instructions ;) |
| 19:40:32 | jlbiasini | http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/fuzeplus/bootloader-fuzeplus.sansa |
| 19:40:57 | pamaury | kumy: first download the file jlbiasini just linked to |
| 19:41:06 | kumy | done |
| 19:41:24 | pamaury | put it in rbutil/mkimxboot/ |
| 19:41:34 | pamaury | cd to that directory and run make if not already done |
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| 19:42:08 | kumy | mkimxboot is already built |
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| 19:43:20 | pamaury | ok cool, run it with these parameters: |
| 19:43:20 | pamaury | mkimxboot -i <the sansa file> -b <the sandisk firmware.sb file> -o recovery.sb -t recovery |
| 19:43:37 | pamaury | (it's similar to a normal build except that you add -t recovery basically) |
| 19:44:01 | jlbiasini | pamaury: 1 MB = 8x1024x1024 bits, right? |
| 19:44:13 | kumy | ./mkimxboot -i bootloader-fuzeplus.sansa -b sandisk-firmware.sb -o recovery.sb -t recovery |
| 19:44:28 | pamaury | jlbiasini: yes but beware the emmc addresses are in sector (one sector=512 bytes) |
| 19:44:37 | pamaury | right |
| 19:44:47 | jlbiasini | arf ok |
| 19:44:48 | pamaury | when done, you send recovery.sb with sbloader |
| 19:45:09 | kumy | pamaury: http://pastebin.com/cMvBehBS |
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| 19:46:08 | pamaury | kumy: sandisk-firmware.sb needs to be latest of from sandisk (version 2.38.6 iirc) |
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| 19:46:13 | kumy | hum, I inversed -i and -b files... |
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| 19:46:30 | pamaury | ah right my mistake |
| 19:46:51 | kumy | better... ;) |
| 19:47:03 | kumy | ok, recovery.sb built |
| 19:47:10 | pamaury | jlbiasini: for information: 0x1DA9000*512 ~= 16Gb |
| 19:47:31 | pamaury | kumy: now send it using sbloader. On the screen it should say the MMC window has been disabled |
| 19:47:45 | kumy | ./sbloader 1024 recovery.sb |
| 19:48:42 | kumy | yes , then no partition found\n usb: connecting \n bootloader usb mode |
| 19:48:52 | pamaury | good |
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| 19:49:22 | pamaury | now you build an actual firmware image: |
| 19:49:22 | pamaury | ./mkimxboot -b bootloader-fuzeplus.sansa -i sandisk-firmware.sb -o firmware.sb -t dualboot |
| 19:49:26 | jlbiasini | so 1MB is basicly 4000 sector |
| 19:49:27 | kumy | nautilus gave me some errors, would you like I pastebin it ? |
| 19:49:39 | pamaury | no, it won't be able to mount it anyway |
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| 19:50:10 | pamaury | keep it connecting while building the firmware.sb file. We will then dd it, I just need to remember the tricky detail |
| 19:50:31 | jlbiasini | and I've set ./util_reader/read_util 066f:3780 ssp_cmd 2 nodata resp 35 0x1D8B5A2 - and I get resp0=0x10000900 is it normal? |
| 19:50:41 | kumy | firmware.sb built |
| 19:51:17 | pamaury | jlbiasini: it means "An error in the sequence of erase commands occurred." |
| 19:51:23 | jlbiasini | eh I meant 4000 in haxa count! |
| 19:51:31 | jlbiasini | damned |
| 19:51:47 | pamaury | kumy: can you run fdisk on the disk ? There should be exactly one partition with type 0x53 |
| 19:52:00 | pamaury | which one is it ? |
| 19:52:04 | kumy | yes |
| 19:52:11 | kumy | /dev/sdb2 1025 101376 50176 53 OnTrack DM6 Aux3 |
| 19:53:22 | pamaury | ok, now you need to dd the firmware.sb file to this partition but *BEWARE*, there is an offset (which is 4 iirc). So you need to run: |
| 19:53:22 | pamaury | dd if=firmware.sb bs=512 skip=4 of=/dev/sdb2 |
| 19:53:56 | pamaury | funman: I thought about dumping the 4Gb but I figured out it was too easy :) |
| 19:54:17 | kumy | what will be the problem if the offset is not 4 ? |
| 19:54:32 | kumy | is it dangerous ? :p |
| 19:54:37 | pamaury | no |
| 19:54:41 | pamaury | it will not boot |
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| 19:54:46 | pamaury | and you can retry :) |
| 19:54:49 | jlbiasini | ok so some part seems to be corrupted and some other not |
| 19:54:53 | kumy | ok, as for now ;) |
| 19:54:56 | pamaury | it's either 2 or 4 but I'm pretty sure it's 4 |
| 19:55:14 | kumy | dd'ing |
| 19:55:39 | kumy | done 35MB copied :) |
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| 19:57:08 | pamaury | kumy: now simply reboot |
| 19:57:10 | kumy | pamaury: should I unplugged it and try to boot it now ? |
| 19:57:14 | kumy | ok |
| 19:57:19 | pamaury | and pray ;) |
| 19:57:43 | kumy | oups, I got a "panic" when I long press on power |
| 19:58:21 | pamaury | press any key and boot again |
| 19:59:11 | kumy | pamaury: snif, still black screen :( |
| 19:59:43 | kumy | pamaury: dmesg give me some errors.. |
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| 20:00:03 | kumy | http://pastebin.com/p6HVKhJj |
| 20:00:38 | pamaury | when exactly did you got the panic ? |
| 20:01:04 | kumy | pamaury: when I long pressed on power button to shutdown it. |
| 20:01:12 | jlbiasini | pamaury: what could I try next, the device is still read only |
| 20:01:29 | kumy | then I pressed power again and it stopped. |
| 20:01:36 | pamaury | hum, you should have just unplugged it, sorry I was unclear. Perhaps it caused something weird |
| 20:01:45 | pamaury | ok, let's try again |
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| 20:02:18 | pamaury | same procedure: boot in recovery mode, send recovery.sb using sbloader and then dd firmware.sb |
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| 20:02:37 | kumy | ok :) |
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| 20:03:02 | pamaury | when done, unplug it. I'll try on mine to be sure |
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| 20:03:18 | pamaury | (if it still doesn't work) |
| 20:03:32 | kumy | hum |
| 20:03:54 | kumy | I got a panic too, (a different error), "mount = 0" |
| 20:04:03 | pamaury | when ? |
| 20:04:14 | kumy | just after usb disconect |
| 20:04:22 | pamaury | you dd everything already ? |
| 20:04:33 | kumy | sure |
| 20:04:42 | pamaury | so it boot but panic now ? |
| 20:05:07 | kumy | no boot... screen is still black |
| 20:05:38 | pamaury | weird, let me check something |
| 20:05:52 | kumy | i've uploaded the recovery.sb again... |
| 20:05:57 | kumy | I'll wait :) |
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| 20:07:02 | saratoga | wow i just tested and the sandisk firmware really does do 96khz sampling rate on AMS devices |
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| 20:07:47 | saratoga | it reproduces a 30kHz test tone just fine from a flac file |
| 20:08:57 | pamaury | kumy: can you run this: |
| 20:08:57 | pamaury | hexdump -C /dev/sdb2 | head |
| 20:09:06 | pamaury | when recovery.sb is running |
| 20:09:31 | kumy | http://pastebin.com/79wz7jvb |
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| 20:10:44 | jlbiasini | pamaury: the problem is that the used space change in the partition but the device is still not formatable |
| 20:10:44 | pamaury | hum, not normal, and this: hexdump -s 0x800 -C /dev/sdb2 | head |
| 20:11:24 | pamaury | jlbiasini: how do see the used space has changed ? |
| 20:11:43 | kumy | pamaury: http://pastebin.com/8187PJ7s |
| 20:12:01 | jlbiasini | after deleting sector gparted show a different used space in the partition |
| 20:12:04 | pamaury | definitely strange |
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| 20:12:18 | pamaury | jlbiasini: surprising |
| 20:12:59 | pamaury | kumy: run this: |
| 20:12:59 | pamaury | dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=4 /dev/sdb2 |
| 20:12:59 | pamaury | and then rerun |
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| 20:12:59 | pamaury | hexdump -C /dev/sdb2 | head |
| 20:13:06 | pamaury | sorry, of=/dev/sdb2 |
| 20:15:07 | kumy | it zeroed some bits :) http://pastebin.com/VYVQTyEw |
| 20:15:23 | pamaury | ah fuck, I know why it didn't work, it's my fault, I confused dd's skip and seek ... So run: (notice the change) |
| 20:15:23 | pamaury | dd if=firmware.sb bs=512 seek=4 of=/dev/sdb2 |
| 20:15:36 | kumy | ;) |
| 20:15:50 | pamaury | I knew I skipped a tricky detail |
| 20:17:09 | kumy | ok, dd terminated, I'll unplug USB |
| 20:17:11 | pamaury | when done, unplug, it will panic with mount=0; then press any key and it should boot normally this time |
| 20:17:18 | kumy | (and cross my finger) |
| 20:17:56 | kumy | didn't had time to see what's on the white screen... |
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| 20:19:04 | jlbiasini | pamaury: actually I was dreaming: no change |
| 20:19:05 | kumy | it didn't boot, maybe, my battery is completly low... does the firmware in charge of charging the battery ? |
| 20:19:21 | pamaury | ah right, plug usb without touching anything |
| 20:19:27 | kumy | I'll plug it to the sector ;) |
| 20:19:40 | pamaury | if the battery is too low it will refuse to boot |
| 20:19:51 | kumy | :):):):) |
| 20:20:05 | kumy | IT'S ALIVE !!!! |
| 20:20:13 | pamaury | :) |
| 20:20:40 | kumy | my wife will be so happy ! |
| 20:20:57 | kumy | hum, it reboot after some few time |
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| 20:21:14 | kumy | I'll boot on the OF for charging ... |
| 20:21:17 | pamaury | kumy: try to boot in the OF then |
| 20:21:57 | pamaury | I suggest that you run a fsck after, I don't really know what the OF does when it's updating |
| 20:22:33 | kumy | why I tried to upgrade the firmware was to get battery charging within RB... Is it implemented ? |
| 20:23:00 | kumy | just got a message on the OF, "you have successfully update your device" :p |
| 20:23:53 | pamaury | battery charging is implemented yes but you you upgraded the firmware with the OF right ? Won't it refuse to upgrade if the battery is too low ? |
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| 20:25:01 | pamaury | or by upgrade the firmware you just mean upgrading rockbox ? |
| 20:25:05 | kumy | I've compiled a new bualboot bootloader yesterday.. |
| 20:25:17 | CIA-10 | Commit 779c2f3 in rockbox by Dominik Riebeling: chinachippatcher: allow additional CFLAGS from the command line. |
| 20:25:19 | kumy | ... and failed miserably :p |
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| 20:25:52 | kumy | I'll let it charge, then upgrade to the new firmware in a few hours ;) |
| 20:26:09 | pamaury | you don't need to update the bootloader usually, only the code in .rockbox |
| 20:26:27 | kumy | hooo ! ok ! |
| 20:26:35 | kumy | so.. already done |
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| 20:26:57 | kumy | pamaury: thanks a lot !! can I make you a donation ? |
| 20:27:09 | bertrik | ej0rge, I get that too |
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| 20:27:13 | pamaury | no, that's fine |
| 20:27:24 | ej0rge | bertrik: hm |
| 20:27:27 | pamaury | you can donate to the project if you want I guess |
| 20:27:39 | kumy | so I'll donate directly to the project |
| 20:27:49 | kumy | (you're faster than me :p) |
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| 20:28:20 | kumy | I have to leave you for now, thanks again !!! |
| 20:28:28 | jlbiasini | pamaury: what is resp0=0x80900 |
| 20:29:05 | pamaury | jlbiasini: ERROR :( |
| 20:29:23 | jlbiasini | and resp0=0x2900 |
| 20:30:00 | pamaury | ERASE_RESET (An erase sequence was cleared before executing because an out of erase sequence command was received (commands other than CMD35, CMD36, CMD38 or CMD13) |
| 20:30:12 | bluebrother^ | huh? Why has the tag the for Rockbox Utility 1.2.11 "rbutil" in it while svn says it's "Rockbox Utility"? |
| 20:30:40 | pamaury | jlbiasini: it means you began an erase sequence and didn't finish it |
| 20:30:56 | pamaury | (like set first and last erase group but don't call erase) |
| 20:31:06 | jlbiasini | ok |
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| 20:32:26 | sniperown | Question: What is the best media management program to use with rockbox? |
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| 20:33:42 | n1s | sniperown: cp is awesome |
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| 20:35:18 | sniperown | do you have a link? |
| 20:35:47 | pixelma | I believe he means copy-pasting through a file browser |
| 20:36:08 | bluebrother^ | time for building binaries! |
| 20:36:36 | sniperown | heh, gotcha |
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| 20:37:08 | sniperown | i'm only curious because i normally use WMP but when i sync with rockbox it adds a new folder in my files and doesnt show up in my track library |
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| 20:39:14 | jlbiasini | pamaury: those address are not big endian, are they? |
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| 20:41:12 | pixelma | sniperown: I guess that's when you use your player in MTP mode (which player ist it, by the way)? Maybe you could use it in some other mode too but I don't know WMP good enough. Other than that, each program should work that can deal with files in a usual mass storage manner and can write m3u(8) playlists, in case you want to use those) |
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| 20:42:18 | pixelma | I don't use any management software either, only file browser, so can't give more tips |
| 20:42:31 | bluebrother^ | isn't that a file management software? |
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| 20:44:53 | pamaury | jlbiasini: no |
| 20:45:46 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 20:45:46 | * | bertrik considers a quick hack to see if we can use RDS to set the clock |
| 20:46:48 | sniperown | the player i use is the Sansa Fuze |
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| 20:49:00 | jlbiasini | pamaury so I set cmd35 then cmd36 then cmd 38 with 0 as argument and it should delete? |
| 20:49:28 | jlbiasini | what are cmd17 you used? |
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| 20:52:12 | pamaury | read |
| 20:52:39 | jlbiasini | pamaury: if so then it give correct return and simply do nothing (i just erased between 0x008F5AC and 0x1D8F5AC) |
| 20:53:38 | jlbiasini | which is consistent with the fact I never get errors from directory managers but that the compy/deletind simply never occurs |
| 20:54:24 | jlbiasini | do nothing and return success... I have also a few collegue that act the same way... :D |
| 20:55:17 | ej0rge | bertrik: i appear to have gotten my rbclient going again by checking out from git again. I am sure there is a more elegant solution. |
| 20:55:29 | ej0rge | (I mean i deleted and pulled the tree fresh) |
| 20:55:44 | bertrik | not sure if that is actually going to work |
| 20:55:57 | ej0rge | *shrug* it's plugging along building stuff |
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| 20:59:03 | jlbiasini | pamaury: wouldn't be a way to directly erase the partition itself and try to generate a new one? |
| 20:59:19 | kumy | pamaury: I've just updated my post to the forum, with the detailled steps ;) |
| 20:59:59 | pamaury | jlbiasini: actually it silently fails because rockbox doesn't check if the write actually suceeds or not ;) |
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| 21:00:19 | pamaury | jlbiasini: you can run erase on the whole partition, you just need to get the right offsets |
| 21:00:22 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:00:39 | jlbiasini | pamaury: actually rb fail on writing, but nautilus don't! :D |
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| 21:12:19 | Zero_Diamond | Hey, does anyone know where I can find the drivers for an Archos Jukebox 6000? They don't appear to offer drivers for any of their players on their official site anymore and after upgrading this thing's hard drive and plugging it in, Windows can't find the proper drivers. |
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| 21:15:13 | bluebrother | iirc there was something about that in the wiki or on the mailing list some time back. Try searching those |
| 21:18:57 | Zero_Diamond | The only thing I've found on the official site is a mail archive page that just mentions NEEDING the drivers with no link to a place I could get them. |
| 21:19:23 | Zero_Diamond | Searching the wiki for "Drivers" brings up nothing and "Driver" just gives me HardDriveReplacement. |
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| 21:22:11 | bluebrother | the wiki says that the bridge chip is an ISD300, so you can try searching for that |
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| 21:23:03 | gevaerts | Wasn't it an ISD200 in the AJB? |
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| 21:24:15 | bluebrother | ah, it's the ISD200 |
| 21:24:48 | bluebrother | Zero_Diamond: link from that post still works: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2006-09/0081.shtml |
| 21:25:31 | Zero_Diamond | Oh, weird |
| 21:25:37 | Zero_Diamond | That's a different post than I was looking at |
| 21:25:38 | Zero_Diamond | Thank you |
| 21:25:49 | jlbiasini | pamaury: well there just no effect on the actual partition whatever I erase |
| 21:26:00 | jlbiasini | must be a controller problem |
| 21:26:07 | bluebrother | you're welcome |
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| 21:26:20 | bluebrother | I was simply searching and browsing the mailing list archive a bit :) |
| 21:26:34 | bluebrother | a "next / previous in thread" linking in the archives would be nice |
| 21:26:50 | jlbiasini | anyway if you come up with another thing you want to test you're very welcome :D |
| 21:26:50 | Zero_Diamond | How do you search it, for future reference? I didn't see any way to do so. |
| 21:27:04 | bluebrother | use google :) |
| 21:27:11 | bertrik | oh nice, the first channel I try gives correct RDS time, the RDS time message even gives me UTC and timezone separately |
| 21:27:17 | Zero_Diamond | Heh heh, I gotcha. |
| 21:27:21 | gevaerts | Zero_Diamond: google has nice features like "site:" and "inurl:" :) |
| 21:27:42 | Zero_Diamond | Yeah, I know about those. Just didn't know if there was an on-site way to that I was missing or not. |
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| 21:29:33 | bluebrother | Bagder: can you move the new Rockbox Utility binaries to the download server? http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/rbutil-releases/1.2.12/ |
| 21:31:46 | bluebrother | bertrik: nice :) |
| 21:32:37 | bertrik | it uses some kind of weird date code, modified julian |
| 21:33:41 | saratoga | is there anything in rockbox that uses the 88k and 96k sample rates? |
| 21:33:55 | saratoga | a test plugin? |
| 21:42:12 | Zero_Diamond | Okay, can somebody maybe shed some light on this situation for me? I've just installed Rockbox on this Archos 6000, but when I turn it on it just displays "Jukebox 6GB Ver : 4.09" and hangs there. |
| 21:42:38 | Zero_Diamond | I just replaced the hard drive with a 120 gig if that holds any bearing on anything. |
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| 21:50:58 | gevaerts | Zero_Diamond: did it work with that disk before you installed rockbox? |
| 21:51:15 | Zero_Diamond | I actually didn't try it |
| 21:51:32 | Zero_Diamond | I was so excited to put Rockbox on it that I didn't try to run it stock first |
| 21:52:07 | Zero_Diamond | According to what I've read though, it should be working fine. It's the right side and connection type and 120 gigs is just about the max that the hardware can read without hacky workarounds. |
| 21:52:16 | Zero_Diamond | Size, rather |
| 21:52:32 | gevaerts | well yes, it should work |
| 21:52:46 | gevaerts | But the partition table or formatting may be wrong for it |
| 21:53:03 | Zero_Diamond | I used Partition Magic to make it a primary FAT32 partition |
| 21:53:28 | Zero_Diamond | Although I -did- get a warning when I was doing that saying something about it not being on the 1024 cylinder or something. |
| 21:53:42 | gevaerts | Oh, that shouldn't be a problem |
| 21:54:07 | gevaerts | The 1024 cylinder thing is an old PC BIOS issue, but the archos isn't an old PC :) |
| 21:54:30 | Zero_Diamond | Right |
| 21:55:01 | Zero_Diamond | The hard drive reads fine in Windows while it's hooked up |
| 21:56:03 | Zero_Diamond | But it seems it's not even reading the new firmware or something |
| 21:56:09 | gevaerts | Which rockbox version did you install? 3.10, or the current development build? |
| 21:56:38 | Zero_Diamond | 3.10. I used the automatic installer with the latest stable Archos 6000 build. |
| 21:57:11 | gevaerts | Ok. I'm not aware of any reports of 3.10 being broken on the AJB |
| 21:57:43 | Torne | are we aware of any reports of it working? |
| 21:57:52 | gevaerts | Well, that's the big question :) |
| 21:57:53 | Zero_Diamond | Well, this doesn't bode well then I'd imagine |
| 21:58:45 | Zero_Diamond | I really hope I can get this figured out because I've been excitedly waiting for my new hard drive to arrive for this thing just so I could put Rockbox on it |
| 21:58:50 | Zero_Diamond | Even took the day off of work today! |
| 21:58:52 | gevaerts | The AJB is getting reasonably rare and most people running it stay with old releases, so I wouldn't consider it entirely impossible if nobody actually tried it |
| 21:59:42 | Zero_Diamond | What's the most recent known-to-work build for the AJB? I can always try that and see if that sorts things out |
| 21:59:53 | Zero_Diamond | Or is that even really known? |
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| 22:00:11 | bertrik | do we have a function in rockbox to convert from unix seconds to a date/time in separate components (year,month, day, hours, secs etc)? |
| 22:00:42 | Torne | Zero_Diamond: most people seem to use 2.x on the archoses |
| 22:00:49 | gevaerts | Zero_Diamond: 3.0.1 definitely should work. Probably also some of the newer ones |
| 22:01:22 | * | gevaerts wishes he hadn't blown up the charging circuit on his AJB. Trying things on it is a pain now |
| 22:01:24 | Zero_Diamond | How much feature loss am I going to get going back to 3.0.1? Any filetypes I won't be able to play? |
| 22:02:02 | Zero_Diamond | Not that it matters if it won't work anyways, but it's always nice to know |
| 22:02:14 | gevaerts | No. On the Archoses you can play what the hardware supports, and that won't change |
| 22:02:33 | Zero_Diamond | Oh wait, really? |
| 22:02:45 | Zero_Diamond | So all the extra formats won't even work on here, just MP3? |
| 22:03:13 | Torne | yeah. the archos is too slow to run software decoders |
| 22:03:17 | Torne | the hardware only supports mp3 |
| 22:03:23 | Zero_Diamond | uggggggh |
| 22:03:34 | gevaerts | Well, also mp2... |
| 22:03:51 | Zero_Diamond | I wish I'd have known that |
| 22:04:55 | Zero_Diamond | I've really set myself up for disappointment |
| 22:05:05 | bertrik | meh, another fm channel sends time over RDS as local time instead of UTC (but also sets the UTC offset to 0) |
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| 22:05:48 | wodz | kugel: http://imagebin.org/197664 |
| 22:06:22 | bertrik | and also seems 3 days off w.r.t. date |
| 22:06:38 | gevaerts | bertrik: call them and complain! |
| 22:07:36 | Zero_Diamond | Where do I find 3.0.1? Old releases appears to only go up to 2.5 |
| 22:07:53 | gevaerts | http://download.rockbox.org/release/ |
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| 22:09:07 | wodz | kugel: addresses printed by backtrace() look reasonable |
| 22:09:30 | megal0maniac | @pamaury Hey. Could you please fill me in? |
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| 22:15:17 | bertrik | gevaerts, hm, actually wikipedia seems to be wrong |
| 22:15:26 | gevaerts | bertrik: call them and complain! ;) |
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| 22:16:07 | bertrik | I skipped the calling part and do the complaining here :) |
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| 22:20:47 | Zero_Diamond | Unzipped 3.0.1 and the same thing is still happening |
| 22:23:13 | funman | isn't the best AJB release 2.5 ? |
| 22:23:37 | Zero_Diamond | 2.5 is doing the same thing now |
| 22:24:23 | gevaerts | I'd suspect there's something with the disk formatting that it doesn't like, but I really have no idea |
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| 22:26:35 | bluebrother | wasn't there a way to flash Rockbox on that players? Maybe that's an issue? |
| 22:26:59 | Zero_Diamond | For some reason Windows won't give me the option to format it as anything but NTFS so I'm gonna have to try reformatting with PM again |
| 22:27:26 | gevaerts | Try a thing called swissknife (IIRC) |
| 22:27:53 | bluebrother | yes, swissknife |
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| 22:28:36 | bluebrother | and Windows refuses to format partitions larger than 32GB (?) as FAT. At least XP does, I think w2k too. |
| 22:28:56 | megal0maniac | I've had issues with a player before because it didn't like FAT32. Try Easus. It's free |
| 22:29:20 | megal0maniac | Much like swissknife :) |
| 22:29:36 | bluebrother | another possibility, does the disk have a partition table? No idea if the Archos devices require one |
| 22:29:40 | AlexP | or fat32format |
| 22:29:49 | bluebrother | or mkfs.vfat :P |
| 22:30:14 | megal0maniac | fdisk :) |
| 22:30:34 | bluebrother | that doesn't format, only partition |
| 22:31:05 | megal0maniac | Eh. Wasn't serious anyway :) |
| 22:32:13 | megal0maniac | Anyone care to help me unravel the mystery of the Fuze+? |
| 22:32:46 | megal0maniac | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,26284.msg191263.html#msg191263 |
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| 22:33:39 | megal0maniac | Have a listen. Let me know if you have any ideas, or advice on debugging when this happens. It's faithfully reproducable, but what am I looking for? |
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| 22:34:52 | Kriz | Hey guys, question regarding a Clip V2 that was bricked during an upgrade. Followed the Unbricking V2 guide, had a successful file copy, and still have a dead player. Any suggestions? |
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| 22:37:13 | CIA-10 | Commit f1eedb8 in rockbox by Dominik Riebeling: Don't try to save settings if none available. |
| 22:37:27 | bluebrother | first bug in 1.2.12 fixed :D |
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| 22:38:34 | Zero_Diamond | Okay, what the hell? Formatted it with Swissknife, opened the drive, and Rockbox was still installed. |
| 22:38:49 | bertrik | Kriz, can you still unbrick it again? |
| 22:38:51 | Zero_Diamond | Then of course I turned it on and the same stupid problem remains |
| 22:39:47 | Kriz | bertrik - still mounts and shows an invaild partition table |
| 22:39:57 | Zero_Diamond | Oh wait, what the hell? I plugged it back in and it's blank now. |
| 22:40:29 | bluebrother | just wanted to ask if you by chance formatted the wrong drive ... |
| 22:40:40 | bluebrother | you did a safe remove before unplugging? |
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| 22:41:05 | Zero_Diamond | Yes, I did |
| 22:41:06 | bertrik | Kriz, what size partition does it show? |
| 22:41:16 | Kriz | Disk /dev/sdc: 3965 MB, 3965190144 bytes |
| 22:41:16 | Kriz | 122 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1023 cylinders, total 7744512 sectors |
| 22:41:16 | Kriz | Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes |
| 22:41:16 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Kriz |
| 22:41:16 | Kriz | Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes |
| 22:41:16 | Kriz | I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes |
| 22:41:17 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 22:41:17 | Kriz | Disk identifier: 0x997dac55 |
| 22:41:22 | Zero_Diamond | And now that it's blank and I reinstalled it is still hanging with "Jukebox 6GB Ver : 4.09" |
| 22:41:29 | Kriz | Clip V2 4GB |
| 22:41:42 | Zero_Diamond | This is so ridiculous |
| 22:42:53 | bertrik | funman, any idea about Kriz player? |
| 22:43:14 | Kriz | Last line of the fdisk: Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table |
| 22:43:52 | funman | Kriz: shut it down and restart |
| 22:43:56 | bertrik | Kriz, we discovered a problem which bricks certain clip v2s, yours could be one of those |
| 22:43:57 | megal0maniac | Zero_Diamond: Stupid question, maybe, but have you re-installed the bootloader as well, or just rockbox? |
| 22:44:12 | gevaerts | megal0maniac: this is an AJB, no separate bootloader |
| 22:44:14 | funman | bertrik: it is for sure |
| 22:44:33 | funman | Kriz: how did you copy the file, from cygwin? linux? |
| 22:44:33 | Kriz | funman, shut what down and restart |
| 22:44:38 | funman | the player |
| 22:44:43 | funman | you must turn it off after using dd |
| 22:44:43 | Zero_Diamond | I used the installer for 2.5 |
| 22:44:44 | Kriz | installed ubuntu, did it from the terminal console |
| 22:44:47 | Zero_Diamond | The .exe |
| 22:44:47 | megal0maniac | Thanks for the heads-up. How does it boot, then? |
| 22:44:56 | Zero_Diamond | So I'd assume that should have put the loader on it |
| 22:45:51 | funman | Kriz: 1/ you must turn it off after using dd and start it again |
| 22:46:03 | Kriz | the battery was disconnected prior to starting, is there a different way to turn it off after using the DD command rather than just unplugging |
| 22:46:16 | funman | Kriz: 2/ you must make sure that the 2 pads are not still connected together. I had to scratch the connection with a knife to make sure no solder was between them |
| 22:46:23 | gevaerts | megal0maniac: the old archoses boot from a file on disk if there is one, or from ROM |
| 22:46:30 | gevaerts | This is the way they update the OF |
| 22:46:31 | funman | Kriz: disconnecting the battery after unplugging will do |
| 22:46:56 | Kriz | it was disconnected prior... do the leads need to remain shorted during the update process? |
| 22:47:01 | funman | no |
| 22:47:05 | Kriz | *it meaning battery |
| 22:47:09 | funman | you must disconnect the battery AFTER as well |
| 22:47:15 | funman | prior AND after |
| 22:47:51 | funman | it doesn't reboot by itself, so it stays in recovery mode after unplug |
| 22:47:56 | Kriz | I disconnected battery. shorted the leads. mounted and checked the device with the results above. copied the file. disconnected the usb. and reattached the battery |
| 22:48:06 | funman | ah ok, that works |
| 22:48:16 | Kriz | result - nothing |
| 22:48:19 | funman | now make sure the connection between the leads is removed |
| 22:48:32 | Kriz | i used a terminal screwdriver to bridge... no solder |
| 22:48:47 | funman | scratch a bit between them using your screwdriver to make sure |
| 22:48:57 | funman | hm also did you use the same OF version that you had previously on it ? |
| 22:49:14 | funman | and was it an unmodified OF ? |
| 22:49:16 | Kriz | i used the .bin you sent to me |
| 22:49:30 | Kriz | " funmanwhen it's running again try to put funman/m30pa.bin">funman/m30pa.bin">http://people.videolan.org/~funman/m30pa.bin on your player instead of using rockbox utility" |
| 22:49:35 | funman | ok you should use the unmodified OF |
| 22:49:48 | funman | once the OF works, put my file on the player to upgrade it |
| 22:50:14 | Kriz | the unmodified is hte sandisk one, correct? |
| 22:50:22 | Kriz | (sorry for still being wet behind the ears on this) |
| 22:51:18 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 22:51:24 | megal0maniac | That's the one :) |
| 22:51:36 | Kriz | thanks mega... |
| 22:51:37 | funman | Kriz: no problem. rather be extra sure when dealing with this |
| 22:51:44 | Kriz | back in a few with the results |
| 22:52:37 | megal0maniac | http://mp3support.sandisk.com/firmware/clip/clip02.01.35.zip if you don't already have it |
| 22:53:25 | megal0maniac | Can anyone perhaps help me with my Fuze+? |
| 22:53:50 | Zero_Diamond | Nothing I do seems to make a difference |
| 22:54:26 | Zero_Diamond | Upgrading this was a $100 waste of time |
| 22:55:33 | Kriz | guys, one last dumb question... should sudo fdisk find the device regardless of connecting the device to usb with or without the pins bridged? |
| 22:57:18 | megal0maniac | Zero_Diamond: Are you sure that 120gb isn't too big for a player which originally came out with something 20x smaller? |
| 22:57:40 | gevaerts | megal0maniac: it's not |
| 22:57:55 | megal0maniac | That's pretty impressive |
| 22:57:55 | gevaerts | People have used such drives before |
| 22:57:59 | Zero_Diamond | Yeah, I did the research |
| 22:58:19 | Zero_Diamond | Also I tried formatting it down to 6 gigs like it originally had and that also resulted in the same hang |
| 22:59:04 | megal0maniac | I thought that with older IDE controllers, there was an addressing limit of... Something like 40gb. Older Seagate drives had jumpers to impose a limit. |
| 22:59:51 | Zero_Diamond | But it seems that regardless, it's not reading the drive right |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:08 | Zero_Diamond | Somebody mentioned that it reads from the disk to load the driver OR from ROM if it's not found |
| 23:00:25 | Zero_Diamond | I just booted it up with nothing at all on the drive and sure enough, it's still showing the same message while hanging |
| 23:00:26 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:00:44 | Zero_Diamond | But then the question remains: why can it not read the drive? It shows up in Windows just fine |
| 23:01:00 | gevaerts | Zero_Diamond: is there a master/slave jumper on the drive? |
| 23:01:19 | Zero_Diamond | I'm not sure what that even is |
| 23:01:29 | Zero_Diamond | I'd have to take it apart again to find out |
| 23:01:43 | gevaerts | Right. Don't do that right away |
| 23:01:56 | gevaerts | I think it's unlikely to be the problem anyway, but you never know |
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| 23:03:01 | gevaerts | I'd say you should post on the forums about this. I suspect you're more likely to find people there who actively use an AJB |
| 23:04:47 | Kriz | funman / mega / bertrik / saratoga.... |
| 23:04:55 | Kriz | thank you! back up and running |
| 23:05:09 | megal0maniac | Good stuff! |
| 23:05:32 | megal0maniac | Rockbox as well or just OF? |
| 23:05:36 | Kriz | OF |
| 23:05:40 | funman | Kriz: awesome! does my file work? |
| 23:05:46 | funman | i can test it again on mine before you do |
| 23:06:05 | Kriz | i can try... want to find out/ |
| 23:06:06 | Kriz | ? |
| 23:06:24 | funman | second, let me confirm again that it works for me |
| 23:07:01 | funman | md5sun = b3179231548a4d7d58ad2d2fef8e7c65 when bunzipped |
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| 23:07:06 | megal0maniac | What's the difference between your file and the one that Rockbox Utility makes? |
| 23:07:18 | megal0maniac | with mkamsboot |
| 23:07:22 | megal0maniac | I think |
| 23:07:33 | funman | rockbox utility current release doesn't have my fix |
| 23:07:53 | funman | Kriz: yup, works for me |
| 23:07:59 | Zero_Diamond | Which forum should I post in? |
| 23:08:04 | Kriz | and that was file in the directory, correct? |
| 23:08:24 | megal0maniac | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/board,28.0.html |
| 23:08:39 | funman | Kriz: yes, did you bunzip it ? |
| 23:09:02 | Kriz | um.... que? |
| 23:09:15 | Kriz | im going to guess no... |
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| 23:09:45 | kugelp | wodz: nice |
| 23:10:05 | Kriz | how would i do that funman |
| 23:12:16 | funman | 7zip or winrar |
| 23:12:33 | funman | Kriz: download it again i unzipped it |
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| 23:12:43 | funman | funman/m30pa.bin">http://people.videolan.org/~funman/m30pa.bin |
| 23:15:13 | Kriz | matches... |
| 23:15:25 | Kriz | trying to teach myself ubuntu in the process |
| 23:15:26 | Kriz | off to update |
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| 23:17:27 | megal0maniac | funman, or another dev, could you please have a listen to the issue I'm having and share collective genius? |
| 23:18:08 | megal0maniac | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,26284.msg191263.html#msg191263 |
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| 23:18:58 | megal0maniac | Original file is here: http://atinyhedgehog.za.net/03-the_joy_formidable-austere.mp3 |
| 23:20:15 | megal0maniac | Even without a Fuze+, perhaps someone could see if there's something wrong with the file. It plays fine everywhere except for on my Fuze+ |
| 23:20:48 | Zero_Diamond | Okay, well, thread posted. Thanks for the help you guys offered me. |
| 23:20:59 | megal0maniac | Pamaury has confirmed it to be a problem, with the same file. |
| 23:21:12 | Zero_Diamond | Hopefully somebody can help me fix this. Otherwise I've got to try and return this hard drive to where I got it from. |
| 23:22:38 | megal0maniac | Best of luck, man. I'm sure it's just a formatting issue |
| 23:22:48 | Kriz | Funman... give yourself a pat on the back |
| 23:22:52 | Kriz | All good. |
| 23:23:02 | funman | great :) |
| 23:23:16 | funman | bluebrother: count of clipv2 bricked since fixed now back to zero :)) |
| 23:23:28 | Kriz | lol |
| 23:23:32 | Zero_Diamond | Here's hoping so, mega |
| 23:23:41 | funman | megal0maniac: no fuze+ here |
| 23:24:05 | Kriz | i think this warrants a beer |
| 23:24:17 | bluebrother | funman: good. |
| 23:24:39 | megal0maniac | But could you maybe listen to what it's doing, and tell me how to go about getting debug info? Please? |
| 23:24:45 | bluebrother | btw, new Rockbox Utility released earlier tonight. I'm waiting for Bagder to push the files to the download server :) |
| 23:24:46 | gevaerts | funman: *known* bricked :) |
| 23:24:54 | funman | ^_^ |
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| 23:25:47 | megal0maniac | http://www.mediafire.com/?z5qwk4oi6bloz7o |
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| 23:26:06 | Kriz | anything else useful i can do to help while its apart? |
| 23:26:26 | megal0maniac | That's what it's doing. And I don't know how to obtain worthwhile debug info |
| 23:27:25 | funman | Kriz: nope, just enjoy rockbox |
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| 23:30:28 | megal0maniac | Anyone?... |
| 23:31:06 | lebellium | hey guys why when I download the latest build for Clip Zip I get the version fd461d8 which seems to be unknown on the RB website and particularly the commits list? |
| 23:31:33 | megal0maniac | That's because Rockbox moved from SVN to Git not so long ago |
| 23:31:58 | megal0maniac | The versioning works differently, and many comments were made when SVN was still in use |
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| 23:32:34 | lebellium | yes but I download the latest version, not an old one so it should be the same as the 1st on the home page no? |
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| 23:33:38 | ej0rge | megal0maniac: there's a tool out there called mp3cat that will output only valid mp3 frames |
| 23:33:41 | n1s | lebellium: all revs don't show on the frontpage |
| 23:33:55 | ej0rge | megal0maniac: if you are on a *nix system you can use it to create a version of that mp3 with no tags or metadata, and see if that works |
| 23:33:56 | megal0maniac | Depends on whether it's a daily build or stable build |
| 23:34:07 | lebellium | nls: thanks, that the magic then , I understand better :) |
| 23:34:23 | bertrik | our build system appears to be borked currently |
| 23:34:47 | n1s | things that go into the www dir for example do not show up |
| 23:34:48 | megal0maniac | ej0rge: Thanks! I'll check it out. |
| 23:34:55 | gevaerts | lebellium: that looks weird. I don't see fd461d8 in the log |
| 23:35:30 | lebellium | gevaerts: I see that on http://build.rockbox.org/ and in the rockbox-info.txt file |
| 23:35:39 | n1s | bertrik: yeah, it seems to have hung |
| 23:36:30 | gevaerts | lebellium: *very* weird... |
| 23:38:17 | n1s | gevaerts: i think funman added some tag yesterday, might that be it? |
| 23:38:36 | n1s | i have nfi how tags work in git |
| 23:39:04 | funman | n1s: gevaerts: yes that's me |
| 23:39:53 | funman | http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=commit;h=fd461d827382b6d8c8acc214292d8b548476e25a the commit is there though |
| 23:40:11 | funman | it's http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=commit;h=db3afb03a26868b00011e9aab9733643440bc03a with a different log |
| 23:41:50 | gevaerts | I wonder if this is somehow related to those phantom builds for commits we can't find |
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| 23:44:55 | funman | what are those commits ? |
| 23:45:03 | funman | git checkout works on this one |
| 23:45:59 | funman | hm didn't it happen on *any* tag? (correct or not) |
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