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#rockbox log for 2012-02-07

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00:02:58funmanJust opened , apparently someone already started working on mixing ARM and thumb in the same source file (put him in CC)
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03:16:36*JdGordon glares at [Saint] ....
03:16:57[Saint]What'd I do...?
03:17:02[Saint]...or not do.
03:17:08JdGordondid you test the $and() and %or()?
03:17:24JdGordonor think about a bette way to do it at all?
03:17:54[Saint]I haven't found the time, and in hindsight, you probably have chosen the "best" syntax for it.
03:18:46[Saint]I assume you've tested it, if there's no giant binsize hit...I don't see a reason not to commit.
03:19:00JdGordonyeah, my usual minimal testing :p
03:19:24JdGordongoing to %and() does set a not so great precedent thoguh
03:19:35JdGordonnot tha i really have an issue with 3 char tags
03:20:49[Saint]The only downside(s) are that it would make conditions harder to read (IMO), and its a three character tag (which breaks convention).
03:21:03[Saint]Oh...whoops, should've read before posting.
03:21:26JdGordonwell, 2 char is just an arbitrary convention
03:21:32[Saint]Yeah. I'm not a huge fan of the three char tag, but, I can't think of a "better" solution.
03:21:34JdGordonthere is no real reason to force it
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10:37:07user890104how do i make the center button in WPS go to the current playlist instead of the last opened files/database view?
10:37:42user890104now i'm basicly holding down center, selecting playlist, then view current playlist
10:37:47user890104(it's an ipod)
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10:44:14wodzuser890104: basically you can't unless you modify sources and compile custom build
10:44:20JdGordonuser890104: it is not configurable
10:44:28JdGordon(as annoying as that is :/ )
10:45:06JdGordongevaerts: do you have any thoughts on,80 ?
10:47:20gevaertsJdGordon: not really. I see the point, and I agree that it's probably useful, but that's about it
10:48:35wodzwhat is the downside of 3chars tags?
10:49:05JdGordonassuming there is one you mean
10:49:47user890104wodz, JdGordon: thanks, any hints what to change (which file for example)?
10:50:07wodzapps/keymaps/keymap-* matching your target
10:50:29JdGordonuser890104: err.. depends which target really
10:50:41JdGordonif its a touchscreen target then its easy, switch the center button to hotkey
10:50:55JdGordonif its not then you probably need to do a bit more involved changes in apps/gui/wps.c
10:50:59user890104ipod 6g
10:52:20JdGordonah change ACTION_WPS_BROWSE to ACTION_WPS_VIEW_PLAYLIST in apps/keymaps/keymap-ipod.c
10:52:20wodzJdGordon: why? isn't it sufficient to change keymap?
10:52:45JdGordonwodz: depends if the new action is actually compiled or not, i wasnt expexcting it to be
10:52:49JdGordonturns out it is though
10:59:29JdGordondo we currently deal with the ipod accessory protocol over USB at all?
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11:13:36wodzAFAIK no. Lalufu worked on this a bit IIRC
11:14:18LalufuI've worked on IAP (and still am, though it's very slow these days), but not via USB.
11:15:22LalufuThere are docs for that, but so far I've been unable to even talk to a OF iPod via USB. But I have not tried very hard, to be honest
11:16:49JdGordonah cool
11:17:03LalufuI find the HID spec utterly incomprehensible, I'm afraid.
11:17:08JdGordonI'm looking at the flyspray patch, do you want to move it to gerrit?
11:17:45LalufuThe stuff in flyspray is very old.
11:18:11LalufuI'll try to produce a patch that applies to the current GIT tree
11:20:01JdGordonI'm bored, so i'd like to try having a go at getting iap over usb going... though i've never dealt with usb code before... shold i just not bother?
11:20:16*JdGordon is reading the iap doc which doesnt exist :)
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11:20:58wodzJdGordon: If you are bored - why don't you look at configurable keymaps :-)
11:21:30JdGordonbecause i cant be bothered with the fights
11:21:44JdGordonpersonally more customisable main menu interests me more :)
11:23:05JdGordongevaerts: is our HID driver 2 way, or only device->host?
11:23:49gevaertsJdGordon: I suspect the latter, but I haven't looked at it recently
11:26:00*JdGordon suspects he is going to just give up and beg other people to do it :p
11:29:35wodzJdGordon: so? whats wrong with customizable main menu to kill boredom?
11:29:51JdGordonthe inevitable argument :/
11:30:23wodzsupport mess? or what?
11:31:29JdGordonthe content of the argument is irrelevant, i just know for sure there will be one that I cant be bothered with
11:31:43JdGordonand I think "support nightmare" is a nonesense argument anyway
11:34:01LalufuJdGordon: what would also be nice, if you're very bored, would be the ability to output PCM sound data via USB.
11:34:16wodzmy POV is that quite big userbase is long waiting for such feature. Without implementation of this every discussion will turn into useless arguing in flames :-)
11:36:06gevaertsThere's a general consensus that configurable keymaps are acceptable. The main discussion would be about how to do it
11:37:01gevaertsAnd yes, that will inevitably lead to flames if the person who proposes a solution tends to call all dissenting arguments nonsense :)
11:37:27JdGordonI'd NEVER do that!
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11:38:19gevaertsLalufu: if you want that, find pamaury's repository on github and integrate it ;)
11:38:54pamauryintegrating what ?
11:39:01gevaertspamaury: usb audio
11:39:27pamauryI have plans to simplify the code
11:39:38pamauryplus it will require lots of work to merge with HEAD again
11:39:57pamaurythe driver itself is good though, only the isochronous handling is a tricky
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11:41:54CIA-10Commit 40ecdf6 in rockbox by Jonathan Gordon: skin engine: New logical 'and' and 'or' tags to evaluate multiple tags in a single conditional.
11:42:01wodzpamaury: how your work on register thingy going?
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11:52:54JdGordongevaerts: Zagor build stuck/broken..
11:53:02gevaertsAh yes
11:53:05JdGordonerror: pathspec '0707479' did not match any file(s) known to git.
11:53:05JdGordon2012-02-07 21:52:29 *** git error!
11:53:18gevaertsSince late on Sunday actually
11:53:27JdGordonoh :(
11:53:27*gevaerts was going to ping Zagor about this
11:56:32Zagoroh, one of those again
11:57:10gevaertsZagor: has some revisions that aren't from master as well
11:57:14gevaertsMaybe related?
11:58:06gevaertsdb3afb0 is "normal", fd461d8 isn't
11:58:36TorneZagor: it looked to me like you are picking up changes to other refs
11:59:07Tornei think the ref-changed hook fires for basically everything except codereviews
11:59:18Tornepossibly even refs/meta/config (the gerrit project config) and other fun stuff :)
12:00:01Zagoryeah but I only run builds for rockbox.git
12:00:10Tornenot the project
12:00:15Tornethe ref within the project
12:00:23Torneyou need to only run builds, update lists, etc, if it's refs/heads/master that changed
12:00:29Torneyou don't want to build anything else
12:00:37Zagorthat sounds like it
12:00:58Torneotehrwise every change to any branch, tag, devleoper's private namespace, etc
12:01:00Tornewill trigger a build
12:01:11Torneand if that SHA is found by the clients it will upload it as if it was a current build :p
12:01:36Torneyou want to check what the hook gets for −−refname
12:01:53Torneand only accept refs/heads/master for now (until we've workedo ut how to support branch builds and so on)
12:02:27gevaertsI'd say for the foreseeable future, non-master builds can be on-demand, i.e. not at all related to the triggers
12:02:58Tornewell yes, but however we trigger them currently the way they get treated would be bad :)
12:03:33gevaertsZagor: can you update the playerpics directory, or will that get done automatically?
12:03:45gevaertsI committed an YPR0 picture
12:03:53gevaertsPossibly even using the correct filename :)
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12:05:50amiconnOh wow, yesterday someone has been here with a V4.x Player, and I haven't :\
12:06:01Zagorgevaerts: pulled now
12:06:02*JdGordon fixes a stupidly old bug :)
12:07:24CIA-10Commit a2f2845 in rockbox by Jonathan Gordon: Fix FS #9391 - playback engine gets confused by multiple simultaneous button presses
12:09:31CIA-10a2f2845 build result: All green
12:09:58Zagorgevaerts: the yp-r0 image is a bit big, don't you think?
12:11:02gevaertsoh, did I forget to scale it?
12:11:47Zagorit's maybe 20% larger than the others
12:11:56gevaertsNo, I forgot to scale it *right* :)
12:12:05gevaertsI'll redo it
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12:14:32CIA-10Commit 2004cd1 in www by Frank Gevaerts: Redo the YP-R0 image with the right size.
12:14:37gevaertsZagor: fixed
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12:38:24pamaurywodz: I've not done anything yet, yesterday I was busy, perhaps today
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13:20:02pamaurywodz: but the major work is to provide the register description, doing the UI itself should not be long
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13:22:50wodzI feel like parsing our SoC .h files should speedup this quite a lot
13:24:46Torneour header files do not describe anything in an even remotely sensible or parseable ay, though
13:25:07Torneit's totally nonobvious in general which things are absolute addresses, which are offsets, which are just values you might like to put in registers, etc
13:25:16Torneor which are just numbers unrelated to registers entirely :)
13:25:58wodzTorne: they do provide names at least - thats a lot of typing
13:26:19wodzor maybe we should structure .h to allow automatic parsing
13:26:24Torneright, so are you going to go through all the header files and annotate/restructure them so it's obvious which things are actually registers? :)
13:26:35Tornewodz: I would, personally, suggest the other way around
13:26:47TorneHave an abstract syntax to describe the registers of the hardware, and generate header files from it :)
13:28:10wodzOh, good so YOU are going to write this :-)
13:29:05Tornehey, i'm already inventing this thing
13:29:08Tornei'm just doing it in python :0
13:29:29Tornefeel free to write a .h generator backend for the declarative hardware description code in pycorn, and write python input for all our targets :p
13:29:40Tornei'll add any features the declarative system is missing :p
13:32:22Tornei don't expect any takers for that one though.
13:32:37pamaurymy suggestion is that each maintainer should do the target(s) his/she knows
13:33:04pamauryI'm going to write one for the imx233 but it will be based on the freescale headers, not ours
13:35:31wodzDo we have active maintainers for all SoCs?
13:35:49pamauryprobably not
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13:53:06lebellium_gs2Hey guys
13:54:34lebellium_gs2 thanks for the R0 pic. Just a strange thing. There is no theme in the R0 section while it exactly has the same screen resolution as the Fuze+ and Toshiba Gigabeat.
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13:59:43gevaertslebellium_gs2: the theme site might update this periodically, not sure about that
13:59:52gevaertsOr maybe it also needs checkwps to be there
14:02:41lebellium_gs2Hum ok. So let's wait a bit to see if it gets automatically updated :)
14:04:00gevaertsActually, let me do a checkwps run manually
14:12:51lebellium_gs2ok :)
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16:40:04u42phi, says .12 is released but there are no download links yet or am i being dumbß :)
16:41:04gevaertsThe files still have to be moved to the official download location
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17:41:30u42pgevaerts: any ETA for that? minutes, hours or days? :)
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17:43:23wodzkugel: can you try new version of unwinder on android?
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18:00:07gevaertsu42p: no idea. Probably not minutes. It all depends on when Bagder or Zagor have time to do it
18:00:17u42pok, thanks
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18:05:34pixelmaeh, I didn't check it but my smallpic would have been 80px in hight as the others
18:06:10gevaertspixelma: yes, but that's the one for the manual
18:06:14gevaertsI think
18:06:31pixelmanow I'm confused
18:07:21gevaertsI am too now :)
18:08:52pixelmaif it was a commit to the www <whatever it's called>, it should only be for the build/manual table
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18:10:34pixelmaso, the player's smallpic which is 80px in height IIRC, the PNGs for the manual are in some "manual" subfolder
18:11:18*gevaerts nods
18:11:25pixelmaanyway, I hope it's been remade from the SVG and not downscaled as I found inkscape gets nicer results
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18:12:23gevaertsI exported from inkscape
18:12:35pixelmaall fine then :)
18:17:11pixelmareading backlog - about user890104's question regarding a shortcut to "view current playlist"... I thought that would be available through the "hotkey" setting but didn't check as I think my targets don't have a hotkey (I also don't know which target he uses though)
18:17:37pixelmaof course, it wouldn't be the center button but only one key (combo?) press
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18:23:50gevaertspixelma: is there a standard size for manual bitmaps?
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18:25:07*gevaerts suspects not
18:25:43pixelmaexcept for the screenshots I'm not aware of any. I *tried* to keep the new ones close to the existing ones though. The used size is actually determined in a latex rule I believe (at least for the PDF)
18:26:24CIA-10Commit 71e35ed in rockbox by Michael Sevakis: Fix FS #12580 - Elapsed time nit reset after track change when playing AC3 files.
18:28:11CIA-1071e35ed build result: All green
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19:22:27CIA-10Commit 513c5ad in rockbox by Frank Gevaerts: SVG Image for Philips GoGear SA9200 (FS #12407)
19:23:32CIA-10Commit e7c97fa in www by Frank Gevaerts: New Philips GoGear SA9200 image
19:36:10user890104pixelma: it's a 6g ipod (a.k.a. classic)
19:36:25user890104i'll check the ipod video manual for the hotkey combo
19:36:47pixelmahmm, the Ipods are a bit short of buttons too, so maybe not (not sure though) seems to be down ATM
19:39:13pixelmait's sometimes real slow lately
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19:48:18saratogai assume this is nothing, but does anyone who remembers the Meizu port want to comment here:,25244.0.html
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20:01:22pixelmauser890104: according to the keymap file the hotkey on the Ipods is Select and Play
20:02:30pixelmaand somewhere there is a selection of what it should be able to do (which *I believe* is "view current playlist" by default)
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20:05:29bluebrothersaratoga: sounds a bit like "we won't help you but we don't tell you either"
20:06:34*bluebrother looks around for Bagder
20:06:53skamsterhello all.. i like to flash my archos "jukebox multimedia" (i don't know how to detect the right model - it may is a recorder or so?) but it seems that the bootloader-installation doesn't work
20:07:03skamstermaybe someone is able to help me?
20:07:49skamsterit detect a "archos recorder v2" when i try to install
20:08:03pixelmaI believe that's the one with a colour screen - then there's no Rockbox for it (as it uses quite different hardware)
20:08:36skamsterbut this is maybe because i installed this version before and i like to try diffrent versions
20:09:15skamsterpixelma, yes, it got a color-screen.. damit, then there is no way and i have to stay on that shitty original-fm? :(
20:09:37skamsterarchopen won't work too, also theyr site is down
20:10:20pixelmasorry to say, but I'm not aware of any alternatives either
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20:25:50lorenzo92hi all! an user told us there is a small graphical issue in cabbiev2 for 240x320 resolution ->
20:26:17lorenzo92he posted also a solution, is anyone able to check that?
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20:28:59bertrikI see we have a mktime function in firmware/libc, but no gmtime apparently (although there is one in the lua plugin )
20:29:14user890104pixelma: thanks, it is, that's exactly what i want
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20:31:25bertriksome rtc drivers seem to implement functions very similar to gmtime, I think it would be nice to have a generic one
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20:33:00pixelmalorenzo92: his solution looks correctly. It seems that there was an oversight when viewportifying the WPS (just looking at the code currently)
20:33:38*pixelma realises she could even try on the phone
20:35:31pixelmahmm, I don't have the original cabbiev2 on it there though
20:36:11kugelthe manual build disappeared from configure
20:37:13pixelmayou don't need to configure it anyway, as you have to use "make manual" in every case
20:37:29kugelah okay
20:37:50pixelmaeven when it was configured for the manual, so I could imagine someone removed the option
20:37:54kugelI needed it twice because of CREDITS.tex
20:38:19pixelmamaybe I should *know* though :\
20:38:46bluebrotherurgh. People file bugs because the new Rockbox Utility binary hasn't been moved to the download server yet :(
20:40:38skamsterpixelma, at least avlo should work on the jukebox multimedia, but the target device is on every build the archos 3xx or so.. do you know where to get another version?
20:41:18kugellebellium: heh, just do the change peter asked for then the pla patch can go in :)
20:41:19skamsteror maybe someone else knows avlo a bit or good? :)
20:41:58scorche|shskamster: as a note, this channel is for rockbox-subjects only - anything non-rockbox should go elsewhere ;)
20:42:55skamsterscorche, mh, yes, but rockbox-users use avlo as bootloader.. and the medios-crew seems to be death :(
20:43:12skamsterif i could install avlo, i could do the rest by myself
20:43:45pixelmaI never heard of avlo so your statement is wrong (or maybe a wrong wording)
20:45:09scorche|shskamster: are you saying that some people used it to make an unofficial port of rockbox, or...?
20:45:09lebelliumhey kugel: sorry but I don't know what you are talking about. Did I miss something?^^
20:46:40kugellebellium: the pla patch
20:46:54bluebrothergevaerts: the html manual will simply use the png image as-is, the pdf will scale it since it's a vector image.
20:46:57skamsterok, may i read something to fast.. i've mean to read that it's the default bootloader to start rockbox, but then i'm wrong
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20:48:07lebelliumkugel: ?
20:48:16webguest80are there any news in yp r0 port?
20:48:32kugellebellium: petur commented on gerrit
20:50:36kugelwebguest80: depends on how up-to-date you are. it's very usuable for everyday use
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20:51:27gevaertsscorche|sh: do you know if the themesite has been updated to use git where needed, and if it has recent builds of checkwps?
20:52:02lebelliumkugel: I fear I don't understand what is this PLA patch. Never heard about it before sorry :p
20:52:13scorche|shgevaerts: nope - usually rasher takes care of such things
20:52:25gevaertsah, ok
20:52:27kugellebellium: oh I'm mixing you up then. sorry
20:52:31lorenzo92webguest80: basically it works everything. Still to be implemented: RADIO and USB connection more or less...
20:52:53kugelmicrosd mounting
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20:54:55kugelwho's the pla patch author then? :(
20:55:44gevaertskugel: his nick escapes me right now. He's doing fuze+ stuff
20:56:05gevaertspamaury knows for sure
20:56:45pamauryI think it's jean-louis biasini
20:57:11gevaertsWell yes, gerrit knows that much. What's his irc nick though?
20:58:13webguest80lorenzo92 is it very hard to implement usb?
20:58:46webguest80it's very uncomfortable to switch to the OF
20:58:50gevaertsoh, jlbiasini of course
20:59:02lorenzo92well don't know, should be *so* hard but needs some toughts how to implement it...for now you can use Safe mode ;)
20:59:35webguest80safe mode?
20:59:46webguest80haven't heard of it
20:59:57kugelgevaerts: ah right
20:59:57webguest80how can i enter it?
21:00:28kugellebellium: there's a mount syscall which pretty much matches the cli tool.
21:00:32kugellorenzo92: ^
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21:01:26webguest80btw some plugins don't work for me on r0
21:01:27lorenzo92webguest80: just keep pressed "Back" key on startup ;)
21:01:31kugelnot sure how to integrate it best though
21:01:35webguest80doom for example
21:01:39webguest80oh thanks
21:01:43webguest80will try it
21:01:45lorenzo92yes we know that ;9
21:01:52webguest80that's strange
21:01:59webguest80rockboy works fine
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21:03:12lorenzo92it is simply a different plugin :D
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21:31:23lebelliumgevaerts: I did not follow all the discussions. What has to be done for the theme site thus?
21:31:46gevaertslebellium: rasher knows :)
21:33:21lebelliumok :)
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21:55:24quorn23hi guys, quick question is the ipod 6g port also seen as unsupported port? i have an issue and a helpful person at freemyipod told me there is a fix, but it isn't in the avaiable build yet. so im looking for someone who could compile rockbox with the fix for me for testing
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21:57:20quorn23the problem i'm having are random lockups during the use of my ipod, it is a bug with the hold button and apparently there is a fix for it
21:57:46TheSeventhere's a testing build somewhere (user890104 seems to know where?)
21:58:36quorn23yeah im looking for a nightly build or something for testing.
21:59:52TheSeventhose seem to be available by now
22:00:31quorn23Polling while on Hold (required for CPU frequency downscaling to not crash while on Hold) - looks like exactly my problem, thanks mate!
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22:01:19n1squorn23: if you want regular updates and a patch applied your best bet by far is to set up what's necessary for compiling rockbox yourself
22:02:47quorn23n1s, i know that would be the best way, i had rockbox on my old ipod, the new one is a 6gen and i have the lockup problem, so i, for myself never needed a latest version, because rockbox was running fine for me so far :)
22:03:24quorn23also on this unstable generation the only problem i'm having so far ;)
22:05:05quorn23also i'm to little into coding, so setting up everything would only end in 100 bugging questions from my side. but if i run into troubles again i'll search for a how to for setting up everything for compiling the source
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22:15:53LalufuOK, so I have one IAP tree with all the changes I made so far, but without any debugging.
22:15:57quorn23TheSeven fyi a page, two further in the linked thread, there is also a build with the patches but with a specific patch in case you have a lcd type 2 or 3 (in my case 2)
22:16:18LalufuThere's another tree that contains all the logf-patches (quite a lot of them)
22:16:42LalufuShould I merge those before offering the tree for inclusion?
22:17:11quorn23 TheSeven this is the posting, in case someone asks
22:17:33LalufuOh, and rebasing the patches from the old git tree to the gerrit one was almost insultingly easy.
22:18:24kugelLalufu: sorry, we didn't want to insult
22:18:56*Torne can make it more difficult if you want another go :)
22:19:37kugelcan we make it harder in retrospective? :)
22:19:55Lalufumove to CVS would do it, I think
22:21:05kugelno, not again :)
22:22:15LalufuHm, seems I have to apply all that again to get the gerrit change-ids. Reading instructions before doing things seems to help.
22:24:40Torneif you just have one commit you can git reset −−soft HEAD^ && git commit to get it to generate one for you, and copypaste the message
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22:26:09kugelammending doesnt add it?
22:26:55Torneamended commits already have a message
22:27:00Torneit doesn't trigger commit-msg
22:27:21funmanor just make one from scratch :)
22:27:32gevaertsIs the change id a hash or a UUID?
22:27:43Torneit's the SHA of the original proposed commit
22:27:56Tornewhich won't match the commit SHA because inserting the change id changes the SHA of the commit :)
22:27:59kugelwhat happens if you make it up?
22:28:01Tornewith an I on the front
22:28:05Tornekugel: as long as it's unique, nothing
22:28:10funmanand rewriting the message doesn't change it so UUID
22:28:13Torneif you happen to make up the same one as somebody else then it will do the things :)
22:28:48Torneif you want to just add one i suggest copying the SHA of your commit, with an I on the front :)
22:29:13LalufuTorne: no worries. I have a branch with all the patches, and I'll just generate a patch set from that, register with gerrit and apply the set again on a different branch.
22:29:15Torneit needs to be formatted exactly correctly, though, including being in the last paragraph separated by a blank line (the same as the convention for Signed-off-by and so on)
22:30:59kugelTorne: what did bold review requests mean again?
22:31:18Torneyou're added as a reviewer but haven't given it a score
22:31:23Tornei.e. you are probably not done with it
22:31:40kugelah okay. thanks
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22:36:04quorn23is the dev "Castor" also in here sometimes? i'm testing his lcd type 2 patch and would like to report him a debug log or something, if he needs something like that
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23:07:26CIA-10513c5ad build result: 0 errors, 3 warnings (Frank Gevaerts committed)
23:08:11gevaertsoh, new client?
23:08:28bertrikhehe, I restarted my build client a few times, it did one build each time
23:10:34gevaertsLooks like the build system isn't fully stable yet
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23:28:13LalufuTorne: the commit-msg hook does not run if I use "git am" to pull in patches, is that right?
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23:31:17Torneno idea
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23:31:36webguest200hello channel
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23:32:44FuzePlusUserI just bought a Fuze+ and am trying to install RB 3.10 on it...
23:32:59Tornei've not really had to do that ;)
23:33:11FuzePlusUserthe utility didn't autodetect my player, but i figured it would not be a problem.
23:33:38FuzePlusUserbut it's also saying the FW i downloaded −− as per instructions from −− is "unrecognized"
23:34:22gevaertsFuzePlusUser: the released rockbox utility doesn't handle fuze+ installation yet I believe
23:34:49FuzePlusUseroh..... but Fuze+ is in the list o.O
23:34:56*bluebrother^ points to
23:34:58gevaertsIn what list?
23:35:11bluebrother^so ... which version of Rockbox Utility are you using?
23:35:43FuzePlusUseroh, my bad, no it's not. confused it with the Fuze
23:35:50n1sbluebrother^: the links on that page seem to still point to the last release
23:35:53bluebrother^I'm pretty sure it's not 1.2.11
23:36:01bluebrother^n1s: I know. The new files haven't been moved yet.
23:36:13bluebrother^I'll update the links once that is done
23:36:29FuzePlusUserah! i have an old version of RBUtil
23:36:31bluebrother^we even have a "bug" already. I can't say I'm not annoyed by that
23:36:52bluebrother^you sure you got a fuze? IIRC they aren't sold anymore
23:37:20FuzePlusUserno no, it's a Fuze+
23:37:43bluebrother^ah, misread.
23:37:54LalufuTorne: turns out that applypatch-msg does exactly the same thing for patches coming in from git am
23:38:04bluebrother^in either case, Rockbox Utility not detecting your player _at all_ is usually a bad sign.
23:38:04FuzePlusUserwhere can i find .12 ?
23:38:49FuzePlusUserthank you sir
23:38:55bluebrother^there are only a few cases where we can't detect anything, and that usually only affects really old players.
23:39:05FuzePlusUseri'm assuming the .zip in there is the windows version
23:39:12bluebrother^it's not uncommon for Rockbox Utility to not being able to detect the mountpoint correctly
23:39:40bluebrother^but in that case there's something you need to change in your setup as well.
23:39:47FuzePlusUserwould the .11 fail to detect a Fuze+ [patched to FW 02.38.06]?
23:41:00bluebrother^it should detect it by its usb id.
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23:42:54FuzePlusUserdetected the player! ... could not detect a mount point!
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23:43:29FuzePlusUseris there some particlar order in which i should [run RBUtil] [plug in Fuze+] ?
23:46:16gevaertsI don't know, but I'd plug in the player first and wait for the operating system to mount it
23:47:01FuzePlusUserit's what i did.... crazy... half the times i click autodetect, RBU hangs!
23:49:06scorche|shhangs for how long?
23:50:08FuzePlusUseruntil windows kindly informs me i need to close it
23:50:42FuzePlusUserbut that's ok, i terminated the process and ran it again and it worked. is Quick Start not supported for the Fuze+ yet?
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23:53:40gevaertsIsn't Quick Start "install the latest stable release"? If so, no
23:53:56FuzePlusUserlol, well put
23:56:43bluebrother^Quick Start installs the latest release only
23:56:54*bluebrother^ really needs to get rid of this Quick Start thing
23:58:13FuzePlusUserum.... rbutil just terminated on its own while i was installing the bootloader.
23:58:38bluebrother^did it already copy the firmware?
23:58:44FuzePlusUserhow can I check?

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