| 00:00:05 | FuzePlusUser | no file |
| 00:00:18 | FuzePlusUser | and i tried again, and rbutil ended suddenly again |
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| 00:00:55 | FuzePlusUser | ohh boy |
| 00:00:58 | bluebrother^ | what OS? |
| 00:01:03 | FuzePlusUser | windows 7 |
| 00:01:08 | FuzePlusUser | SP1 |
| 00:01:21 | bluebrother^ | 64bit or 32bit? |
| 00:01:26 | FuzePlusUser | 32 |
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| 00:02:45 | * | bluebrother^ reboots into w7 |
| 00:07:00 | FuzePlusUser | woohoo! |
| 00:07:20 | * | FuzePlusUser calmly waits, attempting not to appear desperate |
| 00:08:11 | bluebrother^ | hmm, crashes here as well |
| 00:08:17 | FuzePlusUser | egad |
| 00:08:20 | * | bluebrother^ grumbles |
| 00:08:26 | bluebrother^ | egad? |
| 00:08:41 | FuzePlusUser | An exclamation expressing exultation or surprise, etc. |
| 00:08:58 | FuzePlusUser | i was hoping it was my machine |
| 00:09:35 | FuzePlusUser | um... are there instructions on how to install the boot loader without the rbutil? |
| 00:09:49 | bluebrother^ | I've had such a crash in the past but that was related to some DLL loading with MSVC |
| 00:11:21 | bluebrother^ | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaFuzePlusPort#Semi_45Automatic_method |
| 00:12:43 | FuzePlusUser | oh my god, i knew i shouldn't have stopped learning programming at visual basic |
| 00:12:56 | * | FuzePlusUser checks if Fuze+ is still operational |
| 00:13:28 | bluebrother^ | you can always start learning again |
| 00:14:50 | FuzePlusUser | i would very much like to someday |
| 00:15:08 | FuzePlusUser | well... turns out it's still working |
| 00:15:19 | bluebrother^ | why shouldn't it? |
| 00:15:21 | FuzePlusUser | thank you very much for your help bluebrother |
| 00:15:27 | FuzePlusUser | and all the other people who helped out |
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| 00:15:56 | bluebrother^ | you need to put a patched original firmware on the player which will then update itself. Since that file wasn't generated successfully nothing happened to the player |
| 00:16:45 | FuzePlusUser | i see... well, i'm pretty sure i can compile the fw and do the semiauto method −− i installed dd-wrt on a router that was also only partially supported −− but not tonight... |
| 00:17:00 | gevaerts | Compile? |
| 00:17:18 | FuzePlusUser | Semi-Automatic method This method requires the following things: a working cross-compiler (arm-elf-eabi), see HowToCompile a copy of the source code, see HowToCompile a copy of the latest firmware for the Fuze+ |
| 00:17:22 | bluebrother^ | do we have a mkimxboot binary on the download server? |
| 00:17:25 | lebellium | http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showpost.php?p=597879&postcount=619 > I confirm this bug. That's funny nobody noticed it before^^ |
| 00:17:43 | bluebrother^ | you don't need to build the bootloader, you can get that from the download server (same thing Rockbox Utility does) |
| 00:17:57 | FuzePlusUser | i shall forever be remembered as the finder of this non-infamous bug |
| 00:18:08 | FuzePlusUser | ...shoulda picked a cooler nick |
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| 00:19:06 | FuzePlusUser | hm, ok, /me searches for download server |
| 00:19:40 | FuzePlusUser | bluebrother so the instructions on that page are outdated, then? |
| 00:19:42 | gevaerts | hm, I don't see any mkimxboot minaries there |
| 00:19:47 | gevaerts | 8binaries |
| 00:20:01 | FuzePlusUser | First you need to compile the bootloader, |
| 00:20:03 | * | bluebrother^ goes rebooting again |
| 00:20:03 | lebellium | kugel: can you fix the bug in a next commit? |
| 00:20:13 | gevaerts | That's not too good. I don't think we should have promoted the port to unstable without that |
| 00:21:38 | FuzePlusUser | is Bootloader V7 still the latest? |
| 00:22:06 | gevaerts | FuzePlusUser: get the bootloader from http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/fuzeplus/ |
| 00:22:27 | FuzePlusUser | thank you gevaerts |
| 00:22:43 | funman | gevaerts: http://www.rockbox.org/ says fuze+ is unusable |
| 00:23:03 | gevaerts | Ah, good :) |
| 00:23:26 | FuzePlusUser | what do i do with this file? rename it to firmware.sb and copy to fuze+ root? |
| 00:23:45 | gevaerts | funman: builds.pm says it's unstable though |
| 00:23:47 | gevaerts | funman: no |
| 00:23:52 | gevaerts | FuzePlusUser: no |
| 00:24:41 | bluebrother^ | FuzePlusUser: http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/mkimxboot.exe |
| 00:25:52 | bluebrother^ | gevaerts: without mkamsboot binaries? |
| 00:26:18 | gevaerts | bluebrother^: yes |
| 00:26:44 | FuzePlusUser | what's the syntax for this app? just says "You must specify an input file" |
| 00:26:52 | FuzePlusUser | or rather waht syntax should i use |
| 00:27:06 | bluebrother^ | the same the wiki describes |
| 00:29:57 | bluebrother^ | hmm. No crash on Linux. |
| 00:30:08 | bluebrother^ | so this has to be yet another Windows specific issue :( |
| 00:30:11 | * | bluebrother^ sighs |
| 00:30:37 | bluebrother^ | and why is the icon in the Linux binary broken again? |
| 00:33:36 | bluebrother^ | FuzePlusUser: I wouldn't be surprised if mkimxboot crashes as well |
| 00:34:53 | funman | lebellium: looks like a few other targets share the ypr0 screen size so it's not ypr0 specific |
| 00:36:07 | FuzePlusUser | haha bluebrother^ it didn't crash, but it ended with a troubling error status. could you take a look at the output? http://justpaste.it/q4r |
| 00:36:08 | lebellium | funman: you mean the suffle mode bug with the cabbie theme? yes, the same problem probably occurs on the Fuze+ and the Gigabeat |
| 00:37:03 | lebellium | The gigabeat is an old target. Should I understand nobody cares on the shuffle mode? :D |
| 00:37:38 | [Saint] | Ummmnn....no. |
| 00:38:11 | [Saint] | I never get when you're joking or not...but I bloody hope you are ;) |
| 00:38:49 | lebellium | lol |
| 00:39:02 | lebellium | I'm often joking |
| 00:39:12 | lebellium | that's good among this serious developer world :) |
| 00:43:02 | FuzePlusUser | testing to see if i dropped |
| 00:44:28 | funman | lebellium: [Saint] knows his way in cabbie code i think |
| 00:47:57 | lebellium | This 'ottogrey' on ABI proposed a fix, just a 139 to be replaced by 0. I did not check if it works though |
| 00:48:09 | funman | is the code for http://themes.rockbox.org/ in a repo? |
| 00:48:51 | gevaerts | yes |
| 00:49:12 | funman | git://git.rockbox.org/www ? |
| 00:49:23 | Torne | themesite |
| 00:51:18 | funman | hm the list of players is not in that repo |
| 00:51:48 | gevaerts | No, that's in a database |
| 00:52:05 | funman | http://build.rockbox.org/ : "SanDisk Sansa Clip Zip". http://themes.rockbox.org/ : "Sansa Clip Zip" (no SanDisk) |
| 00:52:38 | funman | from http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36978&page=30 |
| 00:53:58 | gevaerts | Not any more :) |
| 00:55:14 | funman | thanks |
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| 01:00:09 | FuzePlusUser | well, ok. i tried. will try again in a couple weeks. hope things work out bluebrother^ :) |
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| 01:14:03 | funman | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUninstall |
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| 02:35:30 | twb | OK, thanks. |
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| 08:07:23 | bluebrother | hmm, crashes on XP as well. I _thought_ I've tried it on that XP VM several times ... |
| 08:08:25 | bluebrother | did nobody try mkimxboot on Windows before? |
| 08:08:31 | * | bluebrother shakes head |
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| 08:27:37 | bluebrother | ok, seems to be an easy fix. |
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| 08:36:32 | kugel | gevaerts: the sa9200 should be put onto the build page also |
| 08:38:58 | kugel | gevaerts: sorry you did already |
| 08:39:08 | kugel | Zagor: please pull then :) |
| 08:40:33 | Zagor | done |
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| 09:11:21 | wodz | kugel: Could you test panicf() on android? Your suggestion to move unwarminder to lib/ sounds sensible but I would like to sort out basic problems first. |
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| 09:18:37 | Lalufu | Torne: can I push a complete branch into gerrit? |
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| 09:21:55 | kugelp | Lalufu: yes, but each commit is a separate task, with dependencies added by Gerrit |
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| 09:26:20 | Lalufu | kugelp: so, do I push my local branch into master on gerrit, or can I push into a new branch and gerrit will pick it up? |
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| 09:40:38 | kugelp | Lalufu: you push it to refs/for_master or so |
| 09:41:54 | Lalufu | I'm currently reading through the gerrit docs (upstream) |
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| 10:04:47 | kugelp | Lalufu: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingGithas all infos |
| 10:04:56 | kugelp | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingGit |
| 10:29:23 | gevaerts | Lalufu: I suspect that at this point for entire branches an external git hoster is a better option |
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| 10:36:54 | wodz | http://web.inter.nl.net/users/lemmensj/homepage/daisy-player.html <- this DAISY player should be fairly easy to port. It uses plain static allocations and is console based. |
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| 10:55:51 | kugelp | 06:41 < [Saint]> Pass...nerds of the highest order getting |
| 10:55:52 | kugelp | engaged/married/breeding certainly is a noteworthy achievement |
| 10:55:52 | kugelp | :) |
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| 10:55:52 | kugelp | 06:41 < JdGordon> more like i wanted attention :p |
| 10:55:52 | kugelp | 06:44 < [Saint]> +1 for honesty ;) |
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| 10:56:09 | kugelp | huh??? where did that come from |
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| 11:00:11 | wodz | kugelp: are you going to give backtrace() a try on android or should I do the cleanup and final tests on SDL RaaA on arm and commit? |
| 11:01:02 | kugelp | I hope to try this afternoon, make sure to remind me |
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| 11:01:38 | kugelp | but if it works on SDA RaaA it most probably also works on android |
| 11:02:46 | wodz | kugelp: I made a couple of quick hacks to compile SDL RaaA on arm natively so I might forget about something |
| 11:04:03 | wodz | and BTW. what is our policy about crediting original author of unwarminder? Should I put him in CREDITS, should I ask him if he would like to be credited or what? |
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| 11:39:11 | Torne | Lalufu: you *can* push a complete branch to gerrit; i set up ACLs that give developers private namespaces for this |
| 11:39:14 | Torne | however, you probably shouldn't |
| 11:39:39 | Torne | unless that is still going to be under development for a long time and you need to work with other people on it |
| 11:40:05 | Lalufu | I think I'll rebase the branch and condense the commits into a bunch of large patches and push those |
| 11:40:07 | Torne | see commit policy for the preferred approach: squash into a series of logically separate patches without intervening historical states taht aren't interesting |
| 11:40:28 | Torne | then either push those to master directly, or to refs/for/master if you want them reviewed (which will make one review per patch) |
| 11:40:47 | Torne | this works out the same as, say, linux, where you are expected to post a patch series via email |
| 11:40:50 | Torne | just, not via email |
| 11:41:25 | Torne | the ability to have a private branch on the server is there for either WIP you are still changing radically, or for long term branches that multiple people are working on together |
| 11:41:38 | Torne | stuff that's approaching finished shouldn't need to be that way |
| 11:42:27 | Lalufu | OK |
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| 12:26:16 | Torne | Lalufu: i haven't documented how to push a private branch yet, i will do at some point |
| 12:26:27 | Torne | well, "private" is not quite right, they are still publicly visible |
| 12:26:45 | Torne | but you control who can push there, and they are not fetched by default when someone clones the repo |
| 12:32:18 | Lalufu | Torne: what I don't really understand from the gerrit docs is the whole refs/for/* thingy |
| 12:33:24 | Lalufu | the rockbox docs say to use /master, but if I read the gerrit docs right I can use other things there. |
| 12:33:41 | Torne | refs/for is just the prefix that makes a code review |
| 12:33:56 | Torne | refs/for/master creates a review for a change that, when submitted, will land on refs/heads/master |
| 12:34:11 | Torne | you could, equally, push to refs/for/v3.10 to propose a patch to go into that release branch |
| 12:34:28 | gevaerts | Can you push to refs/for/refs/for/master? :) |
| 12:34:34 | Torne | gevaerts: fortunately no ;) |
| 12:34:44 | Torne | you can do refs/for/refs/developer/torne/foo |
| 12:34:45 | Torne | or similar. |
| 12:34:45 | Lalufu | does the branch have to exist on the server, or could I (in theory) make something up? |
| 12:34:53 | Torne | if you include the second 'refs' to make it fully qualified |
| 12:35:06 | Torne | Lalufu: yes, branches have to already exist to push code reviews for them |
| 12:35:26 | Torne | currently we have not given everyone the right to indiscriminately create new ones |
| 12:35:33 | Torne | but you can create new ones in specific ways |
| 12:35:34 | Lalufu | understandable |
| 12:36:17 | Torne | currently, you can create new branches under refs/heads if you are in the release committers group (which you can just add yourself to if you need to, but is not default) |
| 12:36:22 | Torne | this is intended for people to make, say, v3.11 |
| 12:36:29 | Torne | not to just create new branches when they feel like it |
| 12:36:56 | Torne | you can also create new branches under refs/developer/yourusername |
| 12:37:21 | Torne | which are the "private" branches i mentioned |
| 12:37:36 | Torne | but generally i would suggest not doing that :) |
| 12:38:08 | Torne | currently there's only one under there: refs/developer/zagor/dynamic-lcd, which was zagor's dynamic lcd branch from svn |
| 12:38:23 | Torne | which was a long lived development branch that people may need to collaborate on |
| 12:38:26 | Torne | which is what that's for :) |
| 12:39:31 | Torne | so, yeah. if you did need a developer branch, you can just push directly to it to create it, and once it exists, if you want to submit code reviews to it you can, by just prefixing it with refs/for |
| 12:39:51 | Torne | but you can't create a branch using a code review in gerrit currently |
| 12:39:58 | Torne | it doesn't know how to handle that |
| 12:40:50 | Torne | does that make sense now? :) |
| 12:48:37 | wodz | Torne: May I ask for unwarminder review? As an arm guy you might find something obvious I missed |
| 12:48:45 | Torne | Yeah, sorry I ahven't odne that |
| 12:48:56 | Torne | I will have a look in, like, five minutes when i've got my giant build kicked off |
| 12:49:05 | Torne | :) |
| 12:49:57 | Torne | is the unwarminder code unmodified? |
| 12:50:13 | Torne | the bits not related to integrating it into rockbox, i mean |
| 12:51:34 | wodz | Torne: I changed two constants 1) how many instruction are interpreted before giveup 2) mem hash table size. For the 2) I am not quite sure I did it right - the comment says that hash size should be prime number but I fail to see why |
| 12:51:56 | wodz | currently it is not prime |
| 12:52:03 | Lalufu | Torne: makes sense, thanks |
| 12:54:21 | Torne | hash table sizes should always be prime :) |
| 12:54:49 | Torne | minimises the number of pathological patterns that cause all data to end up in the same bucket |
| 12:55:35 | wodz | ok. simple fix |
| 12:55:48 | Torne | yeah, use 61 or 67 insteda of 63 |
| 12:56:19 | Torne | what were the default values, also? |
| 12:56:32 | Torne | can you leave the original values in there commented out, with an explanation that they were changed for rockbox? |
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| 12:56:43 | * | Torne will look at the actual code in a few still :) |
| 12:57:52 | wodz | UNW_MAX_INSTR_COUNT 100, MEM_HASH_SIZE 31 |
| 12:58:26 | wodz | I was advertised by the author to increase those if we are not very tight in ram. |
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| 12:59:55 | Torne | ok. well, can you put that into the actual file, for people to refer to in future? :) |
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| 13:16:06 | Torne | wodz: review added. |
| 13:16:59 | mc2739 | forum admins: Peehecemo is in need of a ban (spammer) |
| 13:17:28 | Torne | wodz: thanks for the work you have put into this, but i have some suggested changes before it goes in :p |
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| 13:20:10 | megal0maniac | Does anyone know where I can find Rockbox Utility 1.2.12? |
| 13:21:11 | megal0maniac | Does anyone know where I can find Rockbox Utility 1.2.12? |
| 13:21:28 | Torne | not if you repeat yourself unnecessarily |
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| 13:25:43 | Torne | wow. |
| 13:25:46 | Torne | that actually worked ;) |
| 13:28:50 | GodEater_ | ~~~~:source /home/bryan/.byobu/profile |
| 13:28:56 | GodEater_ | oops |
| 13:33:19 | wodz | Torne: Thanks. Before pushing I would like to rewrite get_sp.c into get_sp.S since this is pure assembly, moving to /lib/unwarminder (or do you have better idea?) sounds sensible, hash size we have already discussed |
| 13:34:36 | wodz | I can't remember the reason for inlining backtrace(). In original sources final client function is implemented as macro. |
| 13:36:14 | wodz | I skipped ATTRIBUTE_PRINTF simply because I couldn find proper combination of naked and this to work although I didn't look deeply into this. |
| 13:39:46 | Torne | my expectation would be that you don't need to inline it |
| 13:39:54 | wodz | About client.c comment - while I generally agree this means we will diverge from original logic. |
| 13:40:11 | Torne | if it works correctly without being inlined, don't :) |
| 13:40:19 | Torne | if it doesn't, then, er, yeah. |
| 13:40:24 | Torne | we should figure that out |
| 13:40:27 | wodz | Torne: I'll check this. |
| 13:41:06 | Torne | the client code looks to be written very much like an example, and i don't think there'sa ny particular reason to care about leaving it how it was originally |
| 13:41:21 | Torne | so, i vote for printing incrementally |
| 13:41:37 | wodz | ok, I'll explore this |
| 13:42:00 | Torne | Oh, er |
| 13:42:04 | Torne | Actually, one thing i didn't think of |
| 13:42:09 | Torne | have we tested what happens if the unwinder faults? :) |
| 13:42:19 | Torne | i am assuming it goes recursive and explodes |
| 13:42:24 | Torne | we should probably.. not do that. |
| 13:42:26 | wodz | nop |
| 13:42:38 | Torne | probably: set some flag on entering unwinding |
| 13:42:48 | Torne | and don't try and unwind again if you end up back at UIE |
| 13:42:58 | Torne | ideally, also don't overwrite the info on the screen we did manage to print |
| 13:42:59 | wodz | there is hard limit where it ends (after 1000 instruction without unwund frame to be exact) |
| 13:43:11 | Torne | no, i mean i th eunwinder accesses an address that causes an exception |
| 13:43:14 | Torne | e.g. memory that doesn't exist |
| 13:43:36 | Torne | won't that just hit UIE again and then try and unwind *that* state? :) |
| 13:44:01 | wodz | can UIE be recursive? |
| 13:44:18 | Torne | Sure, if you cause a data abort while in there |
| 13:44:26 | wodz | hmm |
| 13:44:30 | wodz | good point |
| 13:44:43 | Torne | The ideal thing would be to trap it "properly" |
| 13:44:52 | Torne | which is what the read functions are for, i believe |
| 13:45:02 | Torne | i.e. set some flag when the unwinder is about to touch a possibly bad address |
| 13:45:09 | Torne | then ahve the abort vector return an error cleanly |
| 13:45:18 | Torne | such that the unwinder can neatly conclude that the address is bad and stop |
| 13:45:26 | Torne | Hm. |
| 13:45:37 | Torne | Tell you what.. fix up the things i mentioned already there |
| 13:46:02 | Torne | and i'll have a look later and see if i can write a couple of safe memory access functions for rockbox :) |
| 13:46:05 | Torne | unless you just want to do it |
| 13:46:58 | wodz | I am a bit short in arm knowledge here. I understand the basics but thats all about it |
| 13:47:56 | wodz | Torne: what about place where to put this in our tree? Does lib/unwarminder sounds sensible? |
| 13:48:05 | wodz | *sound |
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| 13:50:53 | CIA-10 | Commit 51912c8 in rockbox by Jonathan Gordon: (Author: Wieland Hoffmann) brickmania: Use short L: %d life indicator if needed |
| 13:51:04 | JdGordon | Torne: why cant we submit changes without a code review? |
| 13:51:08 | JdGordon | bit annoying |
| 13:51:30 | JdGordon | I mean, the "submit" button is bloody there! |
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| 13:53:02 | CIA-10 | 51912c8 build result: 4 errors, 1 warnings (Wieland Hoffmann committed) |
| 13:56:07 | JdGordon | that is apparently a build client issue, builds fine on my box |
| 13:57:42 | Zagor | JdGordon: same gcc version? |
| 13:58:30 | JdGordon | I'm on 4.4.4 |
| 13:58:36 | JdGordon | so no |
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| 14:26:13 | bluebrother | Zagor: van you move Rockbox Utility binaries to the download server or is this Bagder's call? |
| 14:26:27 | Zagor | i can do it |
| 14:26:45 | bluebrother | great. |
| 14:27:29 | Zagor | where are they? |
| 14:28:06 | bluebrother | http://www.alice-dsl.de/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/rbutil-releases/1.2.12/ |
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| 14:29:15 | bluebrother | sorry, http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/rbutil-releases/1.2.12/ |
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| 14:34:10 | Torne | JdGordon: there are many, many ways to submit without code review. i can't easily allow you to submit a change you uploaded for review, through the review interface, without it being marked as okay, but you can still do it half a dozen other ways ;) |
| 14:34:14 | Torne | also, yaknow |
| 14:34:20 | Torne | click review, click +2, click publish and submit |
| 14:34:25 | Torne | submitted without review :) |
| 14:34:40 | Torne | alternatively: just push it to master |
| 14:35:15 | Torne | generally, though, if it's worth you uploading it for review in the first place, surely you can find *someone* to +2 it |
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| 14:48:17 | Zagor | bluebrother: is there any point in keeping old versions around? |
| 14:49:07 | Torne | wodz: that seems like a reasonable place. and yeah, i will see about fault handling maybe. for now it's fine without it. maybe just a simple flag to prevent reentrant invocation? i.e. if you start unwinding, set a flag that causes any further UIEs to go directly to spinning forever without touching the screen |
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| 15:00:45 | pamaury | bluebrother: just read the logs, there is no mkximxboot on the servers because it's supposed to be integrated in rbutil of which the new release should happen soon |
| 15:00:48 | bluebrother | Zagor: not really. Except for reference and to allow using an older one in case of bugs ... |
| 15:00:59 | gevaerts | pamaury: no manual install then? |
| 15:01:01 | pamaury | Apparently there is a problem with /dev/urandom, that doesn't on windows :) |
| 15:01:01 | gevaerts | Why not? |
| 15:01:15 | Zagor | bluebrother: let's keep one old version then |
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| 15:01:17 | bluebrother | pamaury: mkimxboot crases on Windows |
| 15:01:31 | pamaury | then someone has to put some version on the server |
| 15:01:35 | bluebrother | I've already started looking into that |
| 15:01:50 | pamaury | bluebrother: it's probably because you can't read random numbers with /dev/urandom |
| 15:01:57 | pamaury | given the error message from the guy |
| 15:02:00 | bluebrother | need to check my changes with Rockbox Utility tonight. |
| 15:02:18 | bluebrother | a mkimxboot by itself seems to work |
| 15:02:39 | bluebrother | at least it finishes with result: 0 |
| 15:03:16 | bluebrother | any reasonyou used /dev/urandom instead of rand()? |
| 15:03:42 | pamaury | historical reason :) |
| 15:03:46 | bluebrother | might also affect os x - no idea if there's urandom |
| 15:04:34 | bluebrother | we dont't have specific requirements for the randomness of the random numbers, do we? |
| 15:04:44 | pamaury | no |
| 15:04:51 | pamaury | we even use fixed numbers here |
| 15:05:15 | pamaury | *could even |
| 15:05:33 | bluebrother | ok, so Ican simply replace the use of urandom and avoid a special case |
| 15:05:46 | pamaury | yes |
| 15:06:08 | bluebrother | good. I'll work on that tonight. |
| 15:06:19 | pamaury | ok thanks |
| 15:07:00 | bluebrother | what puzzles me most is that Rockbox Utility simply crashes instead of failing to patch the file. |
| 15:07:19 | bluebrother | but let's see ... |
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| 15:08:30 | pamaury | that's weird |
| 15:08:45 | pamaury | I put a *lot* of efforts in making mkimxboot very robust to crashes |
| 15:09:05 | pamaury | it would a shame that it's rbutil which is the weak point |
| 15:09:45 | bluebrother | Zagor: thanks |
| 15:10:28 | bluebrother | could be something in the integration code |
| 15:10:52 | bluebrother | but I can't check this right now |
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| 17:23:20 | wodz | on RaaA system_exception_wait() need to wait actually in order to panicf() be useful |
| 17:23:43 | jlbiasini | I've have a question about git: I've made some modif and commit them for rewiew (http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,86) then I've made some further modification on my local tree and commit them for review (http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,87). Now I need to amend the first commit is there a way I can set git to do that? |
| 17:24:25 | wodz | jlbiasini: you mean you would like to upload new version on 86 right? |
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| 17:25:25 | kugel | Torne: looks like unwarminder can handle bad addresses during unwinding already |
| 17:25:40 | jlbiasini | wodz: yes |
| 17:25:43 | Torne | kugel: er, how? |
| 17:25:53 | Torne | that doesn't make sense |
| 17:25:56 | Torne | "bad" is platform defined |
| 17:26:13 | kugel | "Accessing to the system memory from the unwinder is abstracted through callbacks that must be implemented by the 'client' code, and this allows reads to be validated such that unwinding is stopped if alignment or the address being read is at fault." |
| 17:26:17 | Torne | yes |
| 17:26:25 | Torne | that's exactly what i was suggesting we implement |
| 17:26:30 | Torne | our callbacks just directly do reads |
| 17:26:35 | Torne | which will trigger further aborts :) |
| 17:26:49 | kugel | ah fine then, didn't understand your suggestion properly |
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| 17:27:15 | Torne | we could validate the addresses; check alignment and check they are within ram |
| 17:27:22 | Torne | that would eb a start |
| 17:27:29 | Torne | actually trapping aborts would be nice though |
| 17:27:31 | Torne | and it's not that hard. |
| 17:27:35 | kugel | jlbiasini: modify, amend and push to refs/for/master |
| 17:27:56 | kugel | gerrit will update the already existing ticket as it recognizes the change-id |
| 17:28:23 | Torne | jlbiasini: in future you probably don't want separate changes for that in the first place |
| 17:28:24 | jlbiasini | but last commit i did is th 87 |
| 17:28:43 | kugel | jlbiasini: use rebase −−interactive to change commits before the latest one |
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| 17:29:03 | * | Torne suggests squashing them anyway and abandoning 87, tbh |
| 17:29:22 | Torne | having the change to behaviour and manual in separate commits doesn't seem like a good idea in general :) |
| 17:29:32 | Torne | especially if you ahve them both ready at the same time anyway |
| 17:30:17 | jlbiasini | Torne: I thought we had to separeted all step in a patch. I once did a patch with manual modification in it and no one wanted to eard about it |
| 17:30:46 | Torne | If the patch is too large and complex to understand as one thing, then yes, separate it into logical steps |
| 17:30:49 | kugel | it's fine either way in my opinion |
| 17:30:59 | jlbiasini | that is what I've answered once but it's also true that it was on a bigger patch that could confuse stuff |
| 17:31:02 | kugel | devs' opinions vary also :) |
| 17:31:13 | Torne | anything that can reasonably be a single change should be |
| 17:31:40 | jlbiasini | the idee was to have two different patch and commit them just one after the other |
| 17:31:50 | Torne | right, but why? what is teh advantage? |
| 17:32:45 | kugel | I'll push it whether it's a single or seperate patches :) |
| 17:32:51 | Torne | anyway. you can change a commit that's not the most recent with rebase −−interactive, as people said |
| 17:32:54 | jlbiasini | It was suggested that for searching in a tree of patch applyed 1 years ago it would be much more easy to find |
| 17:33:07 | Torne | jlbiasini: that doesn't make any sense and whoever said that is dumb :) |
| 17:33:29 | kugel | Torne: hey, careful |
| 17:33:38 | jlbiasini | well the case was not that simple |
| 17:33:53 | * | Torne actively discourages people from thinking of a change to documentation as something independant of the change to behaviour it documents |
| 17:34:02 | Torne | this produces bad results :) |
| 17:34:07 | jlbiasini | in this case it is quite obvious |
| 17:34:10 | Torne | makes cherrypick more difficult, makes people lazy |
| 17:34:59 | Torne | anyway, i suggest: squash them together, make sure you keep the Change-Id from 86 and delete the one from 87 |
| 17:35:02 | Torne | then abandon 87 |
| 17:35:08 | Torne | this also makes changing existing stuff trivial :) |
| 17:35:11 | Torne | since you can amend |
| 17:35:17 | jlbiasini | the patch was over 16 plugins's manual with only some related code modification |
| 17:35:29 | jlbiasini | ok |
| 17:36:06 | Torne | that sounds like the other patch needed to be split *differently* |
| 17:36:09 | jlbiasini | thx :) |
| 17:36:14 | Torne | splitting along code vs docs is a bad split |
| 17:36:28 | Torne | splitting, say, "manual updates to make manual match behaviour" from "manual+code updates to change behaviour" is good |
| 17:36:43 | Torne | but then you would still have a change that changed both manual and code, just a smaller one |
| 17:37:11 | Torne | if that makes sense? |
| 17:37:27 | Torne | i mean i didn't see the other one, i dunno. |
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| 17:39:48 | jlbiasini | Torne: there was the case http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12492#comment42223 |
| 17:40:38 | jlbiasini | anyway i don't thing this is a big issue to have different opinio on that matters |
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| 17:41:14 | Torne | I think you misinterpreted what you were told there |
| 17:41:22 | Torne | and actually, they were telling you the same thing I am :) |
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| 17:42:20 | Torne | "Each *functional change* gets its own patch" <- is what i just said, basically :) |
| 17:42:36 | Torne | Changing the keymap of the plugin is a functional change, but it includes changing the documentation to match |
| 17:43:06 | jlbiasini | arg ok now I get it |
| 17:43:12 | Torne | and while in this case it's not a big issue, it *can* be |
| 17:43:25 | Torne | the point is basically that *if* one of your current two patches was committed without the other, it would introduce a bug |
| 17:43:28 | Torne | because the manual would no longer match the code |
| 17:44:10 | Torne | so yeah, for the task there, having one change that finalises the keymap, then another change that adds all the keymaps to the docs, is pretty reasonable |
| 17:44:29 | Torne | because the fuze+ is not documented currently, so changing the keymap in the code doesn't make the docs wrong |
| 17:44:46 | jlbiasini | ok |
| 17:45:19 | kugel | that's why I haven't committed the manual patch even though I +2'd it |
| 17:45:30 | Torne | indeed. |
| 17:45:32 | jlbiasini | thx for havong taking time to explain this |
| 17:45:35 | Torne | it's generally okay to have patches with *one* way dependencies |
| 17:45:40 | Torne | i.e. the first patch must be applied before the second patch |
| 17:45:43 | Torne | because that's often unavoidable |
| 17:45:46 | Torne | but two-way dependencies are bad |
| 17:45:53 | Torne | the first patch should always be able to be applied *without* the second patch |
| 17:45:58 | Torne | otherwise it's a bad patch series, usually ;) |
| 17:46:11 | Torne | no problem |
| 17:46:21 | Torne | We have, historically, not been very rigorous about this kind of thing |
| 17:46:33 | Torne | because we've done code review in a fairly limited and adhoc way |
| 17:46:45 | Torne | now that we hav ebetter tools it's also helpful if people are careful about how they structure their changes |
| 17:46:55 | Torne | :) |
| 17:47:25 | jlbiasini | :) |
| 17:47:36 | Torne | also it's a good excuse for me to nag people about it |
| 17:47:46 | Torne | in order to satisfy my personal desire for us to have better structured changes :p |
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| 18:01:52 | kugel | JdGordon: can you look into g#89 too? |
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| 18:06:43 | kugel | jlbiasini: are you going to update g#86? |
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| 18:09:41 | MasterK | Hello? |
| 18:09:52 | kugel | hello |
| 18:10:18 | MasterK | Is there a Tech support specific IRC or can I get help here |
| 18:10:56 | kugel | here's tech support for Rockbox if anything |
| 18:12:38 | MasterK | ok. I'm trying to install Rockbox on my iPod 5g. Currently im stuck trying to format it. I'm running a Mac so when I try to install the Partition table it's says permission denied. |
| 18:14:02 | MasterK | Any suggestions |
| 18:14:11 | kugel | use rockbox utility |
| 18:14:20 | MasterK | I need to format it first |
| 18:14:51 | MasterK | its currently HFS+ and it has to be FAT32 |
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| 18:15:48 | jlbiasini | kugel: done |
| 18:16:38 | MasterK | Do you know what I need to do? |
| 18:17:01 | kugel | jlbiasini: petur meant to put it to the beginning of the function, not file |
| 18:17:35 | jlbiasini | actually it also works like that |
| 18:17:42 | kugel | yes it does |
| 18:18:18 | kugel | please make it static then |
| 18:18:20 | jlbiasini | isn't it better to have the context used at the beginning just with all the definition? |
| 18:18:25 | jlbiasini | ok |
| 18:19:54 | MasterK | err This is so frustrated |
| 18:20:00 | MasterK | frustrating* |
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| 18:20:34 | kugel | MasterK: I think the docs recommend to use itunes on a windows machine |
| 18:21:45 | kugel | you probably need root privileges to touch the partition table |
| 18:22:21 | MasterK | I have root privalges and i cant use a windows machine atm |
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| 18:27:13 | jlbiasini | kugel: done |
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| 18:32:55 | CIA-10 | Commit a869d4a in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: (Author: Jean-Louis Biasini) LAMP plugin PLA integration (main code + manual) |
| 18:33:30 | jlbiasini | thx |
| 18:33:39 | kugel | jlbiasini: awesome :) are you going to work on more plugins? |
| 18:34:02 | jlbiasini | kugel: what do you suggest to be the next victim? |
| 18:34:48 | jlbiasini | I thing application are the most wanted and probably simplier to do, but which one to go on with? |
| 18:34:58 | kugel | stats, rockblox and superdom are in my notes. perhaps there are more |
| 18:35:25 | kugel | it'd say there are likely more |
| 18:35:34 | CIA-10 | a869d4a build result: 151 errors, 1 warnings (Jean-Louis Biasini committed) |
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| 18:35:50 | jlbiasini | 1 warning??? |
| 18:35:58 | kugel | hmm |
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| 18:36:39 | kugel | the warning can be ignored |
| 18:36:47 | kugel | the one that happens on the ondio |
| 18:36:53 | jlbiasini | I've tested the compilation with rockboxui, there was no problem |
| 18:37:18 | kugel | there are some failing targets |
| 18:37:21 | kugel | http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi |
| 18:37:39 | pixelma | rockblox has some extra keys for dropping and pausing etc. I don't think that it is a good candidate for PLA |
| 18:38:09 | jlbiasini | ok it seems some pla are not defined |
| 18:38:18 | jlbiasini | for all target |
| 18:39:53 | kugel | pixelma: oh, typo. I meant rockblox1d |
| 18:40:09 | pixelma | heh, ok |
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| 18:40:30 | jlbiasini | ok some target don't get mapped I have to investigate why |
| 18:40:31 | kugel | jlbiasini: it looks like you removed an #endif too much. the targets that fail are !LCD_COLOR && !BACKLIGHT_BRIGHTNESS |
| 18:41:10 | kugel | or something |
| 18:41:51 | jlbiasini | yeah that clear I forget those case |
| 18:43:00 | kugel | I think the check the first #ifdef can be removed now |
| 18:43:27 | jlbiasini | yeah I'll will try to compile without it |
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| 18:46:10 | MasterK | alright. So I logged into Root and now it says operation not supported instead of permission denied |
| 18:46:12 | pixelma | some targets don't need the keys to set backlight brightness or colour though |
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| 18:46:33 | kugel | with PLA all targets have a keymap so the the ifdef around can be removed |
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| 18:47:28 | gevaerts | MasterK: what exactly are you trying? |
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| 18:50:05 | kugel | meh, why did he leave now? |
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| 18:51:05 | kugel | jlbiasini: will you fix the problem? |
| 18:51:22 | jlbiasini | i'm on it |
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| 18:57:07 | pixelma | has the change to rockblox been tested on a target? |
| 18:57:50 | pixelma | as I *believe* on some "L" or "Life" is on the background picture , not sure though |
| 18:58:41 | pixelma | or maybe on more than one target even |
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| 18:59:36 | jlbiasini | kugel: you should revert the patch till I find asolution it seems more difficult thant I thought |
| 18:59:48 | jlbiasini | :( |
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| 19:01:33 | kugel | jlbiasini: the fix is trivial actually |
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| 19:02:12 | megal0maniac | Does anyone know where I can find rockbox utility 1.2.12? |
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| 19:02:26 | CIA-10 | Commit b047872 in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: Fix reds. No need for #ifdef to save buttons anymore. |
| 19:04:29 | jlbiasini | I'm not sure this actually fix all the problem |
| 19:04:44 | CIA-10 | b047872 build result: 4 errors, 1 warnings (Thomas Martitz committed) |
| 19:05:15 | jlbiasini | at leat errors are gone |
| 19:05:20 | pixelma | oh, wow, it was brickmania... IIRC it's not on the background so alright there. Sorry for the false alarm |
| 19:06:07 | jlbiasini | oh ok this looks to work |
| 19:07:12 | pixelma | the Ondio error is weird though |
| 19:07:41 | megal0maniac | Someone? |
| 19:08:22 | gevaerts | megal0maniac: have you looked on http://download.rockbox.org? |
| 19:10:55 | jlbiasini | pixelma: yes this weird |
| 19:11:42 | pixelma | seems to be related to one build client |
| 19:12:25 | pixelma | the last three with errors were built on rigaud-dannya |
| 19:16:06 | jlbiasini | Someone should test lamp on clip+ because on rockboxui it looks like it doesn't works - reason why I thought I could solve the problem |
| 19:16:15 | jlbiasini | *not |
| 19:16:26 | jlbiasini | *not solve the problem |
| 19:17:59 | pixelma | I wondered what happened on these targets if you press the buttons that are definded for functions that don't exist (like setting backlight brightness etc.) |
| 19:19:08 | jlbiasini | yes this is another concern I had about just cutting this #if out |
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| 19:20:51 | megal0maniac | gevaerts: Yes, and I swear it wasn't there. Which was why I was so confused. The download page still lists and links to 1.2.11 though |
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| 19:24:09 | jlbiasini | pixelma: well on ipod 1G/2G rockboxui those dead key are not doing anything and pressing them do no harm |
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| 19:26:08 | jlbiasini | on clip+ rockboxui Lamp seems to display a black screen unstead of a white one... |
| 19:31:17 | pixelma | sounds like an unrelated problem though |
| 19:32:05 | pixelma | maybe a difference between sim and target even (having to do with the HAVE_NEGATIVE_LCD or so) |
| 19:33:05 | pixelma | and LCD_INVERT |
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| 19:37:07 | megal0maniac | Lamp isn't all that useful on the Clip+, though. |
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| 19:43:25 | kugel | pixelma: the actions are still #ifdef'd |
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| 19:48:53 | bluebrother | nice, current mingw-cross-env doesn't seem to have issues with screenreaders anymore :) |
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| 20:23:08 | Lalufu | Torne: does the git patch author have to match one of the addresses registered with gerrit? |
| 20:23:20 | Lalufu | how does this work with http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingGit#Applying_a_patch_from_someone_else ? |
| 20:23:50 | bluebrother | Lalufu: I think it's only the committer, not the author (which is tracked separately by git) |
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| 20:25:02 | Lalufu | I've just tried to push a patch for review that has an author address not in gerrit, but is signed-off-by one that is. |
| 20:25:22 | Lalufu | the push was rejected because the author email was not registered with my user |
| 20:28:07 | bluebrother | ah, if you're pushing for a review that's possible. |
| 20:28:31 | * | bluebrother leaves that to Torne for a more qualified answer :) |
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| 20:29:16 | bluebrother | but if you did that yourself it could still be the committer −− try git show −−pretty=fuller to see author an dcommitter |
| 20:30:48 | Lalufu | Author: is the address not in gerrit |
| 20:30:53 | Lalufu | Commit: is the address that is |
| 20:31:08 | bluebrother | hmm. No idea. |
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| 20:36:13 | bluebrother | maybe the mail address is written using different casing? |
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| 20:45:38 | Lalufu | it specifically complains about the author address, not about the committer address. |
| 20:47:03 | Lalufu | http://pastebin.com/GP5zg6Pw |
| 20:49:26 | kugel | Lalufu: where did you try to push to? |
| 20:49:50 | kugel | you need to be a committer to be able to push to anything other than refs/for/master |
| 20:53:26 | Lalufu | I tried this, according to the wiki page: git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master |
| 20:57:13 | CIA-10 | Commit 1ab9d14 in rockbox by Michael Sevakis: Move to compressor out of dsp.c and into its own source to reduce DSP clutter. |
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| 20:59:51 | CIA-10 | 1ab9d14 build result: 8 errors, 2 warnings (Michael Sevakis committed) |
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| 21:09:17 | bluebrother | pamaury: ok, I found the reason for the crash. You're calling bugp(), which in turn calls exit() ... |
| 21:10:16 | bluebrother | so we pretty much have a problem here when including the functionality from somewhere else |
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| 21:11:16 | bluebrother | i.e. Rockbox Utilty does not crash at all :) |
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| 21:28:34 | CIA-10 | Commit d23d164 in rockbox by Dominik Riebeling: imxtools: use rand() instead of /dev/random. |
| 21:31:13 | CIA-10 | d23d164 build result: 8 errors, 2 warnings (Dominik Riebeling committed) |
| 21:31:39 | bluebrother | huh? |
| 21:31:47 | bluebrother | ah, not my errors :) |
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| 21:40:30 | saratoga | so the main things missing from the Zip port is the CabbieV2 theme and the plugins? |
| 21:43:24 | Torne | Lalufu: You need to be a committer to forge author address |
| 21:43:26 | Torne | currently |
| 21:43:27 | bertrik | and an image for the manual, and a free image for build.rockbox.org |
| 21:43:39 | Torne | i.e. if you are not a committer you can only upload patches which are both AUthor: and COmmitter: you |
| 21:43:48 | Torne | i can change this if people think it's a good idea |
| 21:44:08 | Torne | but not right now as i need to fix my server which now has several threads blocked forever in teh kernel :) |
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| 21:50:31 | bluebrother | ok, I've uploaded a mkimxboot and current Rockbox Utility binary for Windows to the usual location. In case some user needs a working one :) |
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| 21:53:08 | Torne | do i need to change it? :) |
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| 21:56:21 | saratoga | the forums are pretty broken at the moment |
| 21:56:33 | saratoga | you can't really read anything in General |
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| 22:09:46 | scorche | saratoga: what a coincidence - i was just about to announce in here that i was about to take them down for a bit to apply some changes ;) |
| 22:10:12 | saratoga | nice |
| 22:10:22 | gevaerts | Let's hope they're nice :) |
| 22:10:26 | saratoga | these are the fixes to the filtering software? |
| 22:10:45 | scorche | saratoga: these are gevaerts's recent changes yeah |
| 22:10:52 | saratoga | cool |
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| 22:11:38 | scorche | for anyone else who didnt catch that - forums are going down for a bit |
| 22:12:42 | saratoga | gogogo |
| 22:18:40 | Lalufu | Torne: it would be nice if non-commiters could at least upload patches for review that do not have their own address as Author: (but as Commit:) |
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| 22:25:08 | saratoga | bertrik: i wrote the original cabbiev2 default theme code many years ago, if i get a chance this week i'll try and see if i can get it working on the zip |
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| 22:30:22 | CIA-10 | Commit ae7b596 in rockbox by Jonathan Gordon: (Author: Wieland Hoffmann) brickmania: Use short Lvl %d level indicator if needed |
| 22:33:04 | CIA-10 | ae7b596 build result: 12 errors, 3 warnings (Wieland Hoffmann committed) |
| 22:33:45 | ukleinek | CIA-10: s/committed/authored/ I guess |
| 22:36:32 | saratoga | damn you Wieland |
| 22:36:56 | kugel | ukleinek: nope |
| 22:37:15 | kugel | saratoga: ? |
| 22:37:42 | saratoga | blaming that guy for Jdgordon's commit |
| 22:38:11 | kugel | saratoga: did you look at the build table? it's not this guys fault either |
| 22:38:20 | saratoga | ah no i didn't |
| 22:38:34 | CIA-10 | Commit ed4eb9a in www by Frank Gevaerts: Add rigaud-dannya to blockedclients |
| 22:39:41 | kugel | gevaerts: perhaps gcc is wrong on his system, he seems to be running a rather old version (for sims) |
| 22:40:01 | kugel | or, hmm |
| 22:40:11 | gevaerts | kugel: there are other people building sims with 4.4 |
| 22:40:22 | kugel | it errors on a generated .c file |
| 22:41:33 | kugel | saratoga: you wrote cabbie? I wasnt aware of that! |
| 22:41:59 | saratoga | kugel: no, i wrote the code to have a default theme |
| 22:42:13 | saratoga | i actually tried to make the default theme cabbiev1 |
| 22:42:49 | saratoga | which was basically just a monochrome orange and black theme, but lots of people changed it into cabbiev2 |
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| 22:45:49 | saratoga | actually funny to think that until almost the AMS port days we had no real default theme |
| 22:47:31 | kugel | cabbiev2 is a bit older that the AMS port isnt it? |
| 22:48:08 | kugel | I remember cabbiev2 coming about when the e200v1 port was being worked on |
| 22:48:40 | saratoga | i think it was around january 2008 |
| 22:49:12 | saratoga | 2008-02-23: New default theme: cabbie 2.0. |
| 22:52:07 | CIA-10 | Commit eadfb64 in www by Thomas Martitz: As per d684858 in rockbox, the fuze+ should be unstable. Fixes FS #12581. |
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| 23:13:35 | pamaury | bluebrother: bugp means bug :) And it does not crash ! Just exists |
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| 23:19:31 | lebellium | hey gevaerts: did you get a reply from rasher since then? |
| 23:19:46 | gevaerts | no |
| 23:20:44 | lebellium | do you think he reads the IRC though or should I PM him on the forum? |
| 23:20:59 | gevaerts | Normally he's on irc |
| 23:21:53 | evilnick | [Saint]: I'm trying to get your latest CabbieV2 touchscreen theme to work, but am having troubles... |
| 23:25:51 | evilnick | [Saint]: In the cabbiev2.cfg file, the paths are all /.rockbox/theme/foo and /.rockbox/icons/bar but on my phone it's /rockbox/ i.e. no .rockbox |
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| 23:32:04 | [Saint_] | evilnick: Hmmm? |
| 23:32:21 | [Saint_] | THere's a reasonably high possibility I broke something... |
| 23:32:44 | [Saint_] | I wouldn't stress too much about it being anything you did :) |
| 23:33:13 | evilnick | I have tried unzipping the file on device and on my laptop but when I switch to the theme then it reverts to the peakmeter-laden built-in theme |
| 23:33:52 | evilnick | With touchscreen skip/pause buttons just under the peakmeter! |
| 23:34:15 | [Saint_] | that's...interesting. |
| 23:34:58 | * | evilnick tries out a previous revision to make sure that it's not his *build* of RB that's the problem |
| 23:35:14 | * | evilnick tries out a previous revision [of the theme] to make sure that it's not his *build* of RB that's the problem |
| 23:35:41 | [Saint_] | I can't do anything about it "right now(TM)". But its almost a 100% certainty I messed something tiny up, which hilariously has the ability to bork *everything*. |
| 23:36:22 | [Saint_] | revert to *7 for the now, see if that "just works" and I'll have a look when I've woken up some more. |
| 23:38:39 | evilnick | Will do |
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| 23:40:01 | saratoga | JdGordon: is there some reason the WPS code can't display a splash error screen when WPS loading fails? |
| 23:40:08 | saratoga | to let the user know something went wrong |
| 23:40:35 | [Saint_] | saratoga: Oh...I've been here :) |
| 23:40:46 | * | [Saint_] wishes saratoga better luck. :P |
| 23:41:00 | saratoga | IIUC right now we just sort of fail, which is a bit confusing |
| 23:41:21 | [Saint_] | "The fallback theme *IS* the "something went wrong" prompt"...apparently. |
| 23:42:18 | evilnick | Which is not terribly useful on RaaAa as with the default fontsize, this renders RB uncontrollable until you uninstall/reinstall it |
| 23:43:24 | saratoga | a simple "WPS Syntax error" splash screen would be nice IMO |
| 23:43:26 | [Saint_] | If you have a silly device without physical buttons, that is :P |
| 23:43:32 | [Saint_] | evilnick: ^ |
| 23:48:05 | kugel | the font and also the list padding are independent of the wps, so it should even work if the wps failed |
| 23:48:44 | kugel | in the worst case the font is tiny but the list padding should retain rockbox controllable |
| 23:51:29 | [Saint_] | Except when the theme turns list padding off...can't account for that. |
| 23:51:45 | [Saint_] | Though, the fallback should "undo" that, I guess. |
| 23:52:14 | [Saint_] | Themes *will* turn list padding off...lets face it, its annoying. |
| 23:52:26 | evilnick | [Saint_]: Hmmm, v7 doesn't work for me either, so I'll try a different build to narrow down what's not working |
| 23:52:58 | [Saint_] | evilnick: If that doesn't work out, clearing out theme related dirs might be in order. |
| 23:53:45 | evilnick | [Saint_]: I'm deleting the entire rockbox folder each time to be on the safe side! |
| 23:54:12 | [Saint_] | Oh...Hmmm. |
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