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#rockbox log for 2012-02-09

00:00:25 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 11.0/20120201153158])
00:01:29bluebrotherpamaury: opening a file (or malloc() failing) is not a bug :)
00:02:01bluebrothereither case, simply exiting instead of propagating the problem upwards is a problem for something that is supposed to be used as library from other code.
00:02:33bluebrotherwhich means it needs adjusting −− we can run into other issues that appear like a crash to the user (like this one −− it's not a crash, but it appears as such)
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00:05:53evilnick[Saint_]: It was the build
00:05:57evilnickSorry mate!
00:07:32[Saint_]No problem, its *way* easier to assume its the theme if you're seeing <screen_garbage>
00:08:19JdGordonsaratoga: no, there is no technical reason a splash cant exist
00:08:41saratogaadding one would seem to be logical then
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00:09:18JdGordonit wont be any more useful than the failsafe skin though
00:09:44saratogasure, but at least people know theres a problem with the theme
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00:49:19[Saint_]Did I miss something?
00:49:26[Saint_]Chopper, in RaaA?
00:49:32[Saint_]Der God why?
00:49:38[Saint_]*Dear, even.
00:51:07[Saint_]Why are we offering plugins that are essentially useless (arguable), when there's plugins missing of great use?
00:51:36[Saint_]random_folder_whatever_thingy is a good example.
00:52:42[Saint_]The new Samsung target is a bit of a special case, I get that...but I for one don't want it shitting plugins I'll never use into RaaAoA because of it.
00:53:31[Saint_]I thought we decided early on that RaaA would just look silly if we tried to compete in any market other than media playback/management?
00:54:01evilnickBoomshine is quite good fun on a phone though!
00:54:30evilnickChopper is very silly on the SGS2 as there's no way to gain altitude :s
00:55:43[Saint_]Yeah...I'm pissed about this.
00:55:52[Saint_]Pissed I didn't notice it, rather.
00:56:32[Saint_]I feel like an ass kicking up a stink after the fact, but I get a "this was just crammed in with little thought" feeling about this one.
00:57:04 Quit bertrik (Quit: And That, My Liege, Is How We Know the Earth to Be Banana Shaped)
00:57:34[Saint_]We really shouldn't be doing games/demos and even most application plugins in RaaA. The host is SO much better at this that it looks hilarious even trying.
00:58:13*evilnick agrees but until there's an actual release of RaaAa then there's no sense in bitching about it
01:00:38[Saint_]I kinda disagree there...but hey.
01:00:57JdGordonsaratoga: we *always* had a default theme
01:01:03[Saint_]"it isn't released yet" != "reason to fill it with crap that'll have to be reverted later"
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01:16:03[Saint_]evilnick: I was looking about a week ago for the person who noticed heavy distortion in RaaA
01:16:12[Saint_]I assume this is you?
01:16:31[Saint_]Yes, yes...I'm getting this too.
01:16:59*evilnick was listening to music at about -80 or -90dB
01:17:11[Saint_]I didn't associate that with "volume problem" though.Just that whatever the volume is, it seems to sound like distorted bass-heavy ass.
01:18:12[Saint_]I looked for "weird stuff" in my .cfg, eventually reset my config, but its still present. Worse is I fear I've become used to it.
01:18:13evilnickFor me, if I reduced the volume waaaaaay down then it'd sound fine, but I used to listen at around -40/-30 and then I had to reduce that down so that it didn't distort
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02:15:50blueberryi am wondering if the bootloader (bootloader-clipplus.sansa) is missing in the "v4.0-bootloader-sansaclipplus-01.02.16-dual_boot" file at
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02:18:24funmanblueberry: no, it's not missing.
02:20:39blueberrynot needed anymore (the 3.0 and 2.0 version had this file included)? I'm want to flash a "new" clip...
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04:25:46blueberrynevermind - I patched the original firmware with mkamsboot and the bootloader from the rockbox site... thanks to all developers!
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04:32:22funman : some boards have a N/A in N/A by N/A instead of last post
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04:36:02JdGordonfunman: yeah, that happens because SMF+akismet suck
04:40:44*[Saint_] seems to recall an announcement that that was "fixed"
04:42:56funmanbluebrother: do you have access to rockbox download server?
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05:04:00Sir_LetoHi, I was wondering, what needs to be changed so that rockbox will install in ICS?
05:04:40Sir_LetoAlso, multiple apks aren't needed for different screen resolutions.
05:06:55funmannothing, it works fine on ICS
05:07:15funmanand patches using this feature are welcome i guess
05:09:06Sir_LetoIt didn't install on monday when I tried.
05:09:56funmanwhich revision did you build? mine might be a week old or 2
05:10:12JdGordonSir_Leto: we do multiple apks because our code doesnt handle different screen szies, not because of android
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05:10:41Sir_LetoI built the one on the wiki
05:10:53Sir_Leto*used the build
05:11:37JdGordonand i've got an oldish apk installed on my ICS touchpad, so there is no absolute issue there
05:15:06Sir_LetoIt just doesn't install, all I can do is press cancel, I'm running CM9 if it matters.
05:15:59JdGordonwhat device?
05:16:05funmanyou'll have to give more details than "doesn't install"
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08:25:59bluebrotherfunman: no.
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09:24:10nick_pHmm, this commit seems to have broken battery/ charger emulation in the simulator:
09:24:21nick_pBTW, anyone know a more succinct way to quote a git commit?
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09:28:39ukleineknick_p: git config "show -s −−pretty='format:%h (%s)'" is what I use
09:29:29nick_pukleinek: thanks
09:30:08ukleineknick_p: better still use git config −−global ...
09:31:31*[Saint_] kicks people into #git-inane_ramblings ;)
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09:33:46nick_pukleinek: I meant in IRC though, I was looking for an equivalent FS# shorthand
09:34:05JdGordonjust the hash
09:34:27JdGordonwhich yeah, isnt as nice.. need to get fs-bluebot to handle them
09:37:05*[Saint_] thought it did
09:37:45[Saint_]test #109084d
09:37:57[Saint_]Hum...apparently not.
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11:05:34[Saint]nick_p: Are you Nicolas Pennequin, by any chance?
11:05:43*[Saint] is trying to sort out G+
11:05:58nick_p[Saint]: No
11:06:15[Saint]Hmmm...that's that idea out the window, then ;)
11:08:10[Saint]Ah! nick_p != Nico_P
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12:01:34CIA-10Commit 4d72c1b in rockbox by Nick Peskett: Fix sim battery emulation: Set such a low sample value for battery smoothing as to effectively disable it.
12:03:33lorenzo92kugel: hey! this morning I managed to turn on the radio through my module (well it's still garbage from the interface/code cleaning point of view hihi)
12:03:53lorenzo92but reg write / read is working fine ;)
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12:04:27CIA-104d72c1b build result: All green
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13:00:45lorenzo92kugel: interesting is that the original module (si470x.ko) doesn't affect the operation of mine (of course after rmmod si470x.ko)
13:01:06lorenzo92kugel: moreover, I'm running the module from the SD card for quick test and loads perfectly
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13:05:08kugellorenzo92: cool
13:05:45lorenzo92no time these days to work on rockbox integration, but will do that later next week :)
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13:29:16gevaertsrasher: do you know if the themesite does automatic checkwps builds?
13:29:34rasherIt used to, before git
13:29:43rasherIt's probably still trying
13:29:46rasherpoor thing
13:29:58gevaertsAh, that would explain the ypr0 not working
13:31:51rasherHm, shouldn't be hard to adjust
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13:49:41u42pupdated my rbutil-bin package to .12 :)
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14:27:48jlbiasinihello, so after lamp here it goes for stats and PLA:,90
14:28:11jlbiasiniI would need test on remote device
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14:42:24pamaurybertrik (for the logs): I saw that you commeted out rmt_tuner_mute in the ipod remote tuner driver. I would like to used it again because of my tuner_power change (see the gerrit entry). Does it work ? Who can actually test it ?
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16:05:49rasherHrm. fails
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16:43:55CIA-10Commit c978665 in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: (Author: Jean-Louis Biasini) Fuze+ PLA_EXIT slight mapping cleanup
16:46:22CIA-10c978665 build result: All green
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18:34:50*pixelma had hoped that gevaerts' modification to the forum would make "recent posts" completely usable again (i.e. fill the list with the last non-spam posts, not just hide the spam but count them in)
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19:23:05gevaertspixelma: yes, sorry about that. I'm not sure what's going on there
19:23:51pixelmait was like this before yesterday but I thought that got fixed
19:24:02gevaertsI thought so too
19:24:17gevaertsBut I must have done something wrong somewhere, or overlooked something
19:24:50pixelmaaha. Good to know you are aware of it :)
19:28:21bertrikdo we have any ukranians here?
19:28:23gevaertsAt least I don't think you saw many traces of the spam I just deleted :)
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19:47:16bertrikis there anything special I need to know about how themes are loaded?
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20:14:24pixelmabertrik: where and when?
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20:56:12GhostingFishidk if you will see this or not but I want to thank you for making rockbox. It has made my listening experience 1000 times more awesome. :)
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21:16:52bertrikpixelma, I get seemingly random weirdness when loading themes, like a theme not fully working until a reboot
21:17:51wodzkugel: can you post your modification to system_exception_wait() on android?
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21:29:09kugelpwodz: i didn't modify it
21:30:07wodzkugelp: ? it should just reboot then on panicf()
21:30:23kugelpit doesn't
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21:32:24wodzah ok, system_exception_wait() is empty but system_reboot() is too which means it ends up in wait(1)
21:32:51wodzthis doesn't work on sdl RaaA as system_reboot() is not empty
21:34:01wodzMy feeling is that proper way is to system_exception_wait() wait actually for any button
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21:35:25kugelpthat's what its supposed to do yes
21:37:07wodzI found this a bit weird that unwarminder when moved to /lib calls rb specific functions (lcd ones)
21:39:10Learkugelp: Checked the __div0 thing a bit more. The libplugin code just calls a plugin API function, so that can't be moved to libarmsupport.
21:44:11kugelpwodz: can't that be don't via callbacks or so?
21:45:00kugelpLear: div0 should be small enough
21:45:32kugelpbut you could also add a wrapper
21:45:53kugelpiirc this wrappers already exists
21:49:36wodzkugelp: this is a callback for unwinder but as it is the same for RaaA and native it needs to be somewhere
21:50:38Learkugelp: What I mean is that __div0 in libplugin is a wrapper, that just call the one in the core. Or did you mean some other kind of wrapper?
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21:59:03bcpksomeone with a wiki account should add "zip" to the "sudo apt-get install build-essential libc6-dev texinfo libgmp3-dev libmpfr-dev" line on
21:59:24bcpka ubiquitous tool, but one that my ubuntu install did not have ;)
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22:06:18bluebrother^hmm, the genlang script on the webserver doesn't like git hashes
22:06:40bluebrother^has anyone looked into that?
22:08:34Learkugelp: __div0 in Rockbox is small, but it only calls UIE...
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22:13:47bcpk i compiled rockbox after adding this patch but i don't see the option they mention anywhre in the menu, how do i add it?
22:14:13LalufuI've just pushed the majority of my IAP work into gerrit (merged from ~180 commits down to 9 large ones and a bit of chaff.
22:20:03LalufuThere is some more code in my tree building on that, but this is most of it.
22:22:53pixelmabertrik: maybe a buflib issue? I believe the skin engine uses it
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22:45:43perfectdrughey:) can someone please close it was commited in;a=commit;h=ae7d40f
22:47:39bcpkdoes anyone know where the lineout enable option would be in rockbx?
22:47:56bcpkI can't find it in the menu after compiling a build with the fuze v2 LOD patch
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22:50:35rashergevaerts: tools/checkwps/ fails for me
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23:12:04n1sperfectdrug: sure
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23:43:02JdGordonsoo... it turns out customiable root menu is painfully simple to implement :)
23:43:15JdGordon(allowing the user to choose which of the current items to put where at least)
23:43:54n1sif you give the users a finger they'll take off the arm!
23:45:00n1sanyway the most frequent request seems to be to be able to remove items so as long as you can't do that, just move them around it should be fine :)
23:45:03JdGordoni didnt quite finish it in the 40min on the plan i had to code last night... hope to get it on gerrit today/tomorrow
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23:52:06perfectdrugn1s: thanks:)

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