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| 00:19:11 | dfkt | should something like %or(%if(%mp,=,4), %if(%mp,=,5))<a|b> be working, or can't i use %if() inside %or()? |
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| 00:26:44 | dfkt | oh wow, it does! :) needs %?or instead of %or |
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| 00:29:43 | dfkt | [Saint], remember my ultra-bloat from earlier? i got it down to this :D - http://pastebin.com/XaJX2mPp |
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| 00:47:07 | [Saint] | dfkt: that's a fine job. |
| 00:47:28 | [Saint] | But man, man oh man do I hate that line-break/indenting style ;) |
| 00:47:49 | dfkt | heh, it's neat and tidy here, pastebin messed it up :) |
| 00:48:10 | [Saint] | No, its "neat" here too. |
| 00:48:20 | [Saint] | I just hate it with a passion ;) |
| 00:48:23 | dfkt | why? |
| 00:48:49 | [Saint] | It totally breaks my concentration when reading a set of nested tags/conditions. |
| 00:48:58 | * | [Saint] is an *oldschool* themer ;) |
| 00:49:11 | dfkt | i guess you're used to the old style... maybe needs some time ;) |
| 00:49:43 | dfkt | but yeah, hard to check with line breaks if you missed a | or > or something |
| 00:49:53 | [Saint] | I just use a script that c/p's and removes indentation and line breaks ;) |
| 00:50:05 | [Saint] | then I can rwad other peoples nasty code :P |
| 00:50:08 | [Saint] | *read |
| 00:50:40 | dfkt | i thought you wanted to make the cabbie code noob-friendly? ;) |
| 00:51:43 | [Saint] | I do...but, that doesnt mean *I* have to like it. |
| 00:51:47 | [Saint] | ;) |
| 00:52:10 | dfkt | heh |
| 00:52:53 | [Saint] | i look at it and think: "that could be one, neat line.....so much bloat" |
| 00:52:54 | [Saint] | :P |
| 00:54:28 | [Saint] | If I did that to some of my conditions, it could end up making 5 LOC into ~100 LOC |
| 00:55:05 | [Saint] | making it impossible to read, as the entire condition never fits on the screen. |
| 00:55:16 | [Saint] | </$0.02> |
| 00:57:50 | [Saint] | I mean....remember the metadata display code I posted the other day for you to look at? |
| 00:58:35 | [Saint] | indentation and nesting with line breaks would make that a few hundred chars wide, and about ~100 LOC |
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| 02:09:42 | dfkt | here's the supported codec list from /apps/metadata.h - i intended the ones which i believe do support replaygain - http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=YhBb287K |
| 02:09:52 | dfkt | is this correct? did i miss some? |
| 02:11:18 | JdGordon | wouldnt it be better if there was a tag which said "does the current codec support replaygain?" |
| 02:11:38 | dfkt | that would be nice, indeed |
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| 02:37:13 | saratoga | i think we have a list in the manual |
| 02:37:57 | saratoga | hmm no it only lists the tags that support replaygain |
| 02:38:06 | saratoga | so it doesn't cover some of the weirder formats |
| 02:38:28 | JdGordon | is there something in the codec which will tell us which do and dont at runtime? |
| 02:38:58 | saratoga | i doubt it |
| 02:40:45 | saratoga | the codec files themselves handle replaygain, not the core |
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| 02:41:15 | dfkt | if the tags handle replaygain, the codec doesn't actually matter? |
| 02:41:19 | saratoga | http://pastebin.com/hm1zxz8C |
| 02:41:48 | saratoga | hmm although i bet some of those fields might be blank |
| 02:42:38 | JdGordon | what does codec_set_replaygain() do? |
| 02:42:54 | saratoga | looking now |
| 02:43:06 | saratoga | ci->configure(DSP_SET_TRACK_GAIN, id3->track_gain); |
| 02:44:43 | JdGordon | is that something we can check later? |
| 02:44:57 | saratoga | i guess you can check if the field is non-zero |
| 02:45:12 | JdGordon | actually, thats probably what the existing replaygain tag does? |
| 02:46:02 | saratoga | yeah it'll just tell you if the info exists, not if its possible for it to exist |
| 02:46:44 | saratoga | hmm no i'm wrong, the metadata parsers do handle the actual replaygain parsing, but the codecs initialize the info when they start |
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| 05:09:42 | * | [Saint] grumbles about the Playlist Catalogue config.cfg entry |
| 05:10:07 | [Saint] | Its catalogue, not catalog! ;) |
| 05:11:56 | JdGordon | bleh |
| 05:17:11 | funman | saratoga: the patch looks great |
| 05:19:17 | JdGordon | can anyone with non-16bit LCD targets please test http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,33453.0.html |
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| 05:49:00 | [Saint] | rasher: the RaaA builds appear to be dead again. |
| 05:49:40 | [Saint] | Looks like it hasn't completed/uploaded a build since you poked it last time. |
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| 06:47:38 | KiwiCam | Is two weeks enough time to come back and ask someone if I can get an update on something? I'z IZ a patient man. But, I'm lacking patience right now, and the st#ner in me, wants to create. |
| 06:48:36 | JdGordon | depends who you are asking |
| 06:50:00 | KiwiCam | Darn. I've forgotten how to do those thought things. JD! You just might well know that right man for me to talk to. I have to ask him about this: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12586 |
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| 06:57:38 | * | [Saint] frowns at that. |
| 06:58:01 | [Saint] | Were I able to, I'd have closed that out as "Not a Bug" ages ago. |
| 06:58:17 | [Saint] | You want a whole new tag...not a kludge on %ss |
| 06:59:11 | JdGordon | not necessarily |
| 06:59:30 | JdGordon | and the only difference between bugs and feauters are when they are found |
| 06:59:45 | [Saint] | %substring ;) |
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| 07:00:13 | [Saint] | I just don't think the tracker is the right place for this. |
| 07:00:14 | JdGordon | any why is asking for that to dump a number unreasonable? |
| 07:00:46 | [Saint] | Its not, necessarily. But the fact it doesn't isn't a bug. |
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| 07:27:33 | KiwiCam | I don't mind posting in the Forum. Under Features? I'd just like it done. How much work would that involve? |
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| 08:53:51 | wodz | JdGordon: I tested lcd patch on hd300 and judging from simple tests it works. I'll take the unit with me today to stress it a little bit more. |
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| 08:54:48 | wodz | JdGordon: Unfortunately I can't test on HD200 (which has quite exotic pixelformat) as usb bridge is broken and I don't have CF card reader right now. |
| 08:56:46 | wodz | Oh, and my wife triggered interesting bug in rb. She toyed with pictureflow and managed to put player in the state where selected track doesn't start to play. I mean it is selected, reports it is playing but it is not and progressbar in wps does not advance. |
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| 09:11:32 | JdGordon | wodz: thanks |
| 09:13:32 | MrFrost | hey guys |
| 09:13:49 | MrFrost | can someone pls look at a radio patch for r0 |
| 09:14:12 | MrFrost | it's on flyspray about a week already |
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| 09:23:49 | Zagor | MrFrost: could you please upload it to gerrit instead? we have stopped using flyspray for patches. |
| 09:24:06 | Zagor | I should add a big note... |
| 09:24:32 | Zagor | gerrit.rockbox.org |
| 09:24:47 | MrFrost | it's not my patch |
| 09:25:15 | MrFrost | lorenzo92 develops rockbox for r0 |
| 09:25:37 | Zagor | aha |
| 09:26:22 | MrFrost | I'm making a theme |
| 09:26:33 | MrFrost | need to test it on device |
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| 09:48:27 | GodEater_ | has anyone noticed that in our UsingGit document, in the first paragraph, we use two entirely different hostnames, as well as different protocols? |
| 09:48:32 | GodEater_ | is this deliberate? |
| 09:48:48 | GodEater_ | will and http clone request only work to the gerrit host? |
| 09:48:54 | GodEater_ | s/and/an/ |
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| 10:12:35 | [Saint] | MrFrost: There's other targets with the same resolution |
| 10:12:43 | [Saint] | Gigabeat, for example. |
| 10:12:54 | [Saint] | Grab a sim and test on that. |
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| 10:53:15 | CIA-44 | Commit 7b99318 in rockbox by Andrew Ryabinin: HiFiMAN: Implement lcd powersave mode. |
| 10:53:16 | CIA-44 | Commit 3515388 in rockbox by Andrew Ryabinin: hm60x/hm801: Fix USB DAC functionality |
| 10:55:38 | CIA-44 | 3515388 build result: All green |
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| 11:05:05 | [Saint] | evilnick: I probably messed up a batch find/replace job. |
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| 11:05:28 | [Saint] | I'll have a look later on, and bug you by mail if you're not around. |
| 11:05:33 | evilnick | Still, it's no hassle for me to make sure that the fault is not at my side |
| 11:05:52 | wodz | mortalis: wouldn't it be better to add parameter to iomux_lcd() and set pins accordingly? |
| 11:05:57 | [Saint] | For now, sorry, and revert to the latest you knew worked. |
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| 11:08:11 | kugel | [Saint]: can I download your latest theme somewhere? |
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| 11:08:50 | evilnick | kugel: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/30204410/Rockbox%20as%20an%20Application/rockbox-480x800-r00010.zip |
| 11:09:08 | evilnick | Is the version that I have (that isn't working properly) |
| 11:09:16 | * | kugel needs 320x480 |
| 11:09:36 | evilnick | [Saint]: Just FYI, it does seem to be the theme, no rush on the fix though |
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| 11:12:50 | mortalis | wodz: do you mean something like: void iomux_lcd(bool is16bit) ? |
| 11:13:40 | wodz | more something like iomux_lcd(enum rk27xx_mode_t mode) |
| 11:14:03 | wodz | ok rk27xx_mode_t is not the best name but you see the concept |
| 11:14:50 | Zagor | is rbutil voice generation still broken? |
| 11:14:53 | wodz | It would be best to leave lcdif-rk27xx.c quite generic |
| 11:15:08 | gevaerts | Zagor: not as far as I know |
| 11:15:45 | wodz | mortalis: How do you boot rockbox currently on hifimans? |
| 11:15:55 | Zagor | I committed bluebrother's website fix but I never heard if it solved it |
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| 11:17:01 | gevaerts | Zagor: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20120221#20:26:39 is the closest I see |
| 11:17:09 | mortalis | wodz: I make BASE.RKW from rockbox.bin and replace it in OF |
| 11:17:23 | Zagor | gevaerts: ah, missed that. thanks. |
| 11:17:38 | wodz | mortalis: you mean you patch BASE.RKW or replace completely? |
| 11:17:54 | mortalis | replace completely |
| 11:18:18 | wodz | ah, ok so you store rockbox firmware on hidden partition right? |
| 11:18:30 | wodz | and resource files on usd card |
| 11:18:39 | mortalis | yes |
| 11:19:13 | wodz | mortalis: did you craft some custom tool or you use Alemaxx one? |
| 11:19:30 | mortalis | Alemaxx |
| 11:21:49 | wodz | I was thinking a bit about booting rb on rk27xx platform. Basically we can 1) patch s2 nand bootloader 2) replace BASE.RKW with our bootloader and boot off usd 3) patch BASE.RKW and boot rb from usd and OF from hidden partition |
| 11:22:11 | wodz | the simplest is 2) |
| 11:22:27 | wodz | and the slowest for sure |
| 11:23:38 | mortalis | in case 2 we couldn't make dualboot, right? |
| 11:23:39 | wodz | mortalis: is there a known way to expose hidden partition on hifi's |
| 11:23:49 | wodz | mortalis: why not? |
| 11:24:09 | wodz | mortalis: we will need to load original BASE.RKW from usd though |
| 11:24:53 | wodz | mortalis: and why hold button is not supported in rb? |
| 11:27:00 | mortalis | to expose hidden partion we need to make empty file HIFIMAN.SYS in internal flash. Of couse it works only for OF |
| 11:28:06 | wodz | cool, this will make installation process trivial |
| 11:28:07 | mortalis | I don't know how to read hold button state. Maybe it should read through SPI |
| 11:28:59 | wodz | mortalis: Have you tracked traces on PCB? I suspect it is connected to gpio which is simply missconfigured |
| 11:29:39 | wodz | spi for just one button is unlikely |
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| 11:38:12 | mortalis | wodz: No i haven't. I checked all calls of GPIO_GetPinLevel in OF, no one of those pins used for hold |
| 11:39:38 | mortalis | I tried to configure SCU to work as much gpios as possible and it give no result |
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| 12:21:31 | wodz | mortalis: When I find some free time I'll try to craft something according to booting approach 2) |
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| 12:36:31 | mortalis | wodz: nice. btw approach 1) is impossible on hfm's without shorting out pins |
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| 12:36:53 | lorenzo92 | uhm I don't find any button to add a task to gerrit...hints? |
| 12:37:10 | mortalis | or possible, but i dunno how |
| 12:37:42 | wodz | mortalis: It is possible - it will need different protocol (you sent me dumps of communication) |
| 12:38:02 | wodz | lorenzo92: UsingGit covers uploading for review |
| 12:38:16 | wodz | lorenzo92: I mean www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingGit |
| 12:38:36 | lorenzo92 | thanks |
| 12:38:59 | wodz | mortalis: From the posts on the forum I don't quite get why one need to overwrite nand bootloader to uninstall rockbox |
| 12:49:12 | mortalis | wodz: I don't quiet get what are you talking about. There is no need to overwrite nand bootloader. |
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| 12:50:30 | mortalis | IIRC dumps i sent you overwrite hidden partition (it's non ROM DFU mode) |
| 12:51:24 | mortalis | to overwrite nand bootlader ROM DFU mode needed |
| 12:51:50 | ReinD | Hi, can someone add my to the WikiUsersGroup? I'd like to add my Classic battery benchmark results later today |
| 12:51:51 | wodz | mortalis: so why one need to shorten nand pins to recover? To uninstall it is enough to overwrite firmware partition as you don't touch nand bootloader |
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| 12:56:41 | mortalis | wodz: if you are talking about http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,32587.0.html , then didn't seen such problem before, and didn't know how to solve. That's why I adviced him to short out pins hoping that it would help. Normaly uninstalling goes without shorting out. |
| 12:57:24 | wodz | ok, now its clear |
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| 12:58:29 | wodz | does hifi's have fm chip? |
| 12:58:59 | wodz | hmm, I guess not |
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| 13:03:25 | mortalis | wodz: you ar right |
| 13:06:44 | mortalis | ReinD: what's your wiki name? |
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| 13:09:52 | ReinD | mortalis: it's also 'ReinD' if I'm correct |
| 13:10:45 | kugel | ReinD: we demand your real name for the wiki |
| 13:11:32 | ReinD | kugel: and I should give that here on a public IRC? |
| 13:11:52 | CIA-44 | Commit 7c215b1 in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: (Author: Jean-Louis Biasini) bounce's plugin PLA integration (main code + manual) |
| 13:12:18 | kugel | ReinD: yea |
| 13:12:41 | kugel | well you can give your name in private chat too but it's visible on rockbox.org anyway |
| 13:13:00 | ReinD | and you all did the same thing? |
| 13:13:16 | mortalis | yes |
| 13:13:17 | kugel | sure |
| 13:13:24 | ReinD | okay, it's Reinoud Dik |
| 13:14:02 | kugel | okay, that doesnt fix the wrong user name for the wiki though :) |
| 13:14:18 | CIA-44 | 7c215b1 build result: All green |
| 13:14:26 | kugel | don't know if you can change it or should make a new one? |
| 13:14:37 | ReinD | so I need to make a new username / account? |
| 13:15:49 | kugel | perhaps Zagor can change it |
| 13:16:06 | Zagor | sure |
| 13:16:45 | ReinD | zagor: thanks |
| 13:17:13 | Zagor | done |
| 13:17:24 | Zagor | ReinoudDik is your new username |
| 13:18:31 | ReinD | ZagorL thank you, so now I can publish my benchmark results? :) |
| 13:20:25 | CIA-44 | Commit a60bc25 in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: (Author: Jean-Louis Biasini) fireworks's plugin PLA integration |
| 13:21:27 | mortalis | ReinD: I added you to wiki users group. Now you can. |
| 13:22:17 | ReinD | mortalis: thanks man! My browser says that the password will be sent unencrypted, is that 'normal' for this website? |
| 13:22:25 | CIA-44 | a60bc25 build result: All green |
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| 13:38:30 | kugel | is the Reviewed column visible to everyone or only me? |
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| 13:39:16 | Torne | it's just a trivial note about whether you have looked at a given file |
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| 13:40:38 | kugel | alright |
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| 14:55:29 | Zagor | http://www.mctek.tk/cgi-bin/wiki/wiki.cgi?page=Android/Rockbox/Build |
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| 15:04:41 | kugel | heh |
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| 15:06:46 | CIA-44 | Commit 3a4f8cd in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: fireworks: ues PLA_EXIT to exit without going through the menu. |
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| 15:08:56 | CIA-44 | 3a4f8cd build result: All green |
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| 15:12:51 | kugel | Zagor: I wonder how he managed that statusbar. it looks it would be a sbs but it shows android elements |
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| 15:17:06 | evilnick | kugel: The cellphone reception icon is volume: http://www.mctek.tk/cgi-bin/wiki/wiki.cgi?page=Rockbox%CD%D1%A5%B9%A5%AD%A5%F3 |
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| 15:21:20 | kugel | evilnick: I thought so :) I meant the rockbox and adb/android logo |
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| 15:42:55 | dfkt | how do i make sure that album art is displayed over an image, not under it? the sorting order in the wps code doesn't seem to matter, album art always displays under the image (i can't use a regular backdrop for this issue) |
| 15:44:28 | dfkt | with "under" i mean the album art gets covered by the image |
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| 16:59:17 | MrFrost | Can someone add me to theWikiUsersGroup pls? |
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| 17:09:28 | AlexP | What's your wiki name? |
| 17:09:44 | MrFrost | EugeneAveryanov |
| 17:11:18 | AlexP | OK, done |
| 17:11:41 | MrFrost | thanks :) |
| 17:12:20 | AlexP | no problem |
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| 19:05:57 | bluebrother | huh? Why is my post in the forums showing up twice? |
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| 19:10:44 | blackers | hi |
| 19:10:50 | blackers | is there anybody? |
| 19:11:23 | n1s | there is |
| 19:11:51 | blackers | thanks, i have a strange problem with my iPod 5th gen |
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| 19:12:30 | blackers | i just bought it, and the rockbox firmware makes a background noise if you see what i mean |
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| 19:14:29 | n1s | blackers: i don't see what you mean, could you describe your problem in more detail? |
| 19:14:56 | n1s | when does it happen, is it not preseint in the Original Firmware? |
| 19:15:16 | blackers | ok i'll try to explain better, i'm not english |
| 19:16:05 | blackers | so, in the original firmware i have a little background noise. a little embarrassing but nevermind. |
| 19:16:23 | blackers | when i install rockbox, it becames more noisy |
| 19:16:42 | blackers | not only when i play sound, the noise is always |
| 19:17:30 | blackers | you know better what i mean? |
| 19:17:58 | n1s | i think so, that sounds like a harware issue that is for some reason just a bit worse in rockbox. Do you use the same volume in rockbox and OF ? |
| 19:18:28 | blackers | the volume doesn't matter, the noise is always the same |
| 19:18:34 | n1s | i don't have an ipod 5g but several daps have a slight background hiss |
| 19:18:48 | n1s | it's not dependant on volume? |
| 19:19:06 | blackers | no |
| 19:19:32 | blackers | when the volume is at 0, the noise is the same |
| 19:19:57 | n1s | 0db? that is usually rahter loud |
| 19:20:24 | blackers | hmm no i don't mean 0db |
| 19:20:40 | blackers | i mean the lowest volume |
| 19:20:53 | blackers | i don't remeber how much it is |
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| 19:21:21 | n1s | ok, well to me it sounds like a hw issue but perhaps some ipod video user can comment? |
| 19:21:41 | blackers | i think it is... |
| 19:21:59 | blackers | i'm trying to reinstall |
| 19:22:40 | n1s | that is very unlikely to help |
| 19:22:51 | MrFrost | reinstalling won't help if it is hw issue |
| 19:23:10 | blackers | yes but it's the only thing i can do right now |
| 19:23:12 | MrFrost | If you have the same in the OF it likely to be this |
| 19:23:25 | blackers | but this is not the same |
| 19:23:35 | blackers | in the OF it's a little noise |
| 19:23:53 | MrFrost | hm |
| 19:24:07 | blackers | as i said its not very embarrassing |
| 19:24:09 | MrFrost | this is probably amplifier noise |
| 19:24:14 | blackers | in rockbox its louder |
| 19:24:27 | blackers | yes it can be |
| 19:24:37 | MrFrost | your ipod is brand new? |
| 19:24:42 | blackers | no |
| 19:24:51 | blackers | i bought it frome ebay... |
| 19:25:07 | MrFrost | oh |
| 19:25:26 | blackers | it's a 5th gen, originally 30Gb but harddisk have been remplaced 80 gb |
| 19:26:35 | MrFrost | so it was dissasembled |
| 19:26:38 | blackers | when i'm -90 db it makes no noise |
| 19:26:47 | blackers | but when i'm 89 it makes |
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| 19:27:15 | MrFrost | at -90 amplifier is off |
| 19:27:18 | blackers | around -10 it begins to be louder |
| 19:27:19 | MrFrost | i think so |
| 19:28:39 | MrFrost | i think this is something with shielding |
| 19:28:58 | blackers | what is that? |
| 19:29:30 | MrFrost | i don't know how to explain in english |
| 19:30:02 | blackers | you are what nationality? |
| 19:30:09 | MrFrost | belarussian |
| 19:30:17 | blackers | ok |
| 19:30:28 | blackers | try to explain anyways? |
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| 19:30:55 | MrFrost | devices inside a player |
| 19:31:19 | MrFrost | make noise |
| 19:31:38 | MrFrost | if amplifier is unshielded it can be affected by this |
| 19:31:47 | MrFrost | noises |
| 19:31:49 | blackers | ok |
| 19:32:11 | evilnick | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_shielding |
| 19:32:15 | blackers | i see what you mean, but why my amplifier would be unshielded |
| 19:32:28 | blackers | yes 'im on this page already :) |
| 19:32:37 | MrFrost | because it was disassembled by some men |
| 19:32:51 | MrFrost | and may be assembled not right |
| 19:33:45 | blackers | yes it must be |
| 19:33:53 | blackers | and i know it was dissasembled |
| 19:34:22 | blackers | so, do you think its possible for me to reassemble and fix it? |
| 19:34:25 | MrFrost | i think that is the reason |
| 19:35:21 | blackers | and second question, do you know why noise becames louder in rockbox? |
| 19:36:00 | MrFrost | I don;t know |
| 19:36:05 | blackers | ok |
| 19:36:24 | blackers | what you said helped me, thanks a lot |
| 19:36:44 | blackers | if you have other ideas tell me |
| 19:37:54 | MrFrost | btw amplifiers make a so called white noise |
| 19:38:25 | MrFrost | when it's on you can hear a sizzle |
| 19:38:30 | MrFrost | not loud |
| 19:38:38 | MrFrost | it's normal |
| 19:38:49 | blackers | and? the noise is not frome the amplifier, isn't it? |
| 19:38:54 | blackers | from* |
| 19:39:38 | blackers | i mean, yes it is, but if it's a sheld problem |
| 19:39:39 | MrFrost | it is from it |
| 19:39:52 | blackers | the amplifier is not damaged |
| 19:40:42 | MrFrost | if your player plays music it's not damaged i think |
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| 19:43:15 | blackers | yes |
| 19:45:21 | blackers | is there ipod 5th users here? |
| 19:45:29 | blackers | do you have this little noise too? |
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| 19:54:02 | Mir | good morning |
| 19:54:18 | Mir | i got a toshiba gigabeat but i dont know what model it is |
| 19:54:39 | Mir | or if i can connect it using the standard usb port to my linux machine to put rockbox on it |
| 19:54:57 | AlexP | Does it look like any of the ones we support? |
| 19:55:00 | Mir | i am pretty sure its either an s/f/x |
| 19:55:12 | AlexP | Does it have a tocuh cross on the front? |
| 19:55:21 | AlexP | Or a physical cross? |
| 19:55:31 | Mir | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/pub/Main/GigabeatBatteryUpgrade/step-2.jpg |
| 19:55:36 | AlexP | and dmesg might tell you something |
| 19:55:48 | n1s | does it have a windows button? |
| 19:55:49 | Mir | wait |
| 19:55:51 | Mir | yes |
| 19:55:55 | Mir | mine has a windows button |
| 19:56:03 | AlexP | Is that a picture of yours? |
| 19:56:10 | AlexP | As that picture looks like a F |
| 19:56:17 | Mir | thats the difference betweent that picture and mine |
| 19:56:22 | AlexP | But the F doesn't have a windows button, the S does |
| 19:56:23 | n1s | the S has a windows button, the f/x don't |
| 19:56:33 | Mir | mine is the same color and the cross control is the same |
| 19:56:37 | Mir | ahh |
| 19:56:37 | AlexP | but the S has a physical cross button, not the touch type |
| 19:56:47 | Mir | this is a button cross |
| 19:56:51 | n1s | though there are other gigabeats we don't support that might have one too |
| 19:56:53 | Mir | so yes it must be the S |
| 19:56:59 | n1s | sound slike the S yes |
| 19:57:02 | AlexP | Sounds like an S, but it might be another that we don't support |
| 19:57:11 | Mir | Model MES30V |
| 19:57:20 | n1s | that's the S i think |
| 19:57:29 | AlexP | Yep |
| 19:57:36 | n1s | yeah, same as mine |
| 19:58:05 | Mir | cool :3 |
| 19:58:31 | Mir | is there anything i need to do before i rockbox it? |
| 19:59:06 | n1s | no, just follow the instructions, the install can be a bit tricky i think but i don't quite remember |
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| 20:00:02 | Mir | hopefully its easier than the Clip |
| 20:00:07 | Mir | that was a pain in the arse |
| 20:00:17 | Mir | but by god is it sexy :3 |
| 20:01:23 | Mir | i got this mp3 player for 6$ |
| 20:01:51 | Mir | thats as much as i paid for my Zen Vision M |
| 20:02:40 | * | Mir does prefer the C200 and the E200 though over the clip or the iTouchMyselfAtNight from Apple |
| 20:07:28 | n1s | the c200 is rather crap :) |
| 20:07:44 | n1s | the beast is nice but the battery time isn't good |
| 20:14:03 | Mir | i get 27 hours out of my C240 |
| 20:14:08 | Mir | with rockbox |
| 20:14:15 | Mir | much more than my clip |
| 20:15:36 | n1s | i think the sound quality is rather bad and it needs to be cranked almost to the max to drive my headphones, the display is also bad |
| 20:15:51 | Mir | odd |
| 20:15:58 | Mir | i have good soundquality on mine |
| 20:16:16 | n1s | it's obviously subjective |
| 20:16:16 | Mir | and only need the volume at -34db to drive my headphones |
| 20:16:28 | Mir | and thats on all 4 of my C200's |
| 20:16:30 | n1s | and depends on the headphones too |
| 20:16:33 | Mir | yea |
| 20:16:41 | Mir | mine are JVC marshmellows |
| 20:16:48 | n1s | the hp jack is rather easy to break off the pcb too |
| 20:17:02 | Mir | hehe |
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| 20:17:26 | Mir | the jack on one of my Vision M's is kinda broken |
| 20:17:29 | Mir | it still works |
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| 20:42:57 | BoogleBoy | Im installing rockbox into an ipod video using the windows rockbox utility but Its like froze on the theme installation |
| 20:43:10 | BoogleBoy | Like I cant select the screen, what should I do? |
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| 20:44:09 | fairs3 | oh no matter sorted |
| 20:44:39 | jlbiasini | bluebrother: isn't there a way to have linguist-qt4 translating all the occurence of a sentence with the same translation? The french translation can be very different from one method to another - while always translating the same sentence. |
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| 20:51:21 | sean_fosterbrown | Hi. Is any part of rockbox written in C++? I know C++ but am not very good with C. |
| 20:51:38 | saratoga | rockbox utility is c++ |
| 20:51:45 | saratoga | but rockbox itself doesn't use c++ |
| 20:51:59 | sean_fosterbrown | Oh. OK. |
| 20:52:16 | sean_fosterbrown | Guess I'll just have to work harder at learning C then |
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| 20:52:23 | saratoga | c is basically a subset of c++, so you pretty much already know it |
| 20:55:09 | gevaerts | Well, yes, but you can do a *lot* of c++ without seeing much of the common bits |
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| 21:09:52 | blackers | any ipod 5th gen users here? |
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| 21:21:50 | bluebrother | jlbiasini: linguist provides suggestions for translations. Look for the "phrases and guesses" pane |
| 21:22:41 | jlbiasini | yes I saw that but I all installation files the two first sentence are the same |
| 21:23:19 | bluebrother | well, there's no easy way to do that except the usual copy and paste |
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| 21:24:09 | bluebrother | the problem is that Qt considers two identical strings in different classes to be different −− which is a good thing, since that could mean they have a different context and actually require a different translation |
| 21:24:32 | jlbiasini | That is what I wanted to know. Some translationn are following english to closely but I guess it's ok |
| 21:25:14 | bluebrother | if some translations are off of the normal way of describing things in the target language you're welcome to fix that. |
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| 21:25:47 | bluebrother | translations are contributed, and I have no way to verify if the translations make sense (except for the languages I speak obviously ;-) |
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| 21:26:04 | jlbiasini | well it's mostly ok, it's just me playing the smart guy :D |
| 21:27:09 | bluebrother | to be honest I'm not really satisfied with the german translation even if I did it myself. But if you're looking at a GUI in english all the time it can become quite hard to translate that in a good way :) |
| 21:27:23 | jlbiasini | but I had the ts file from yesterday and now I'm in a merge trouble. I should figure it out but it will take some time |
| 21:27:54 | bluebrother | merge trouble? Because I ran lupdate on it? |
| 21:28:07 | jlbiasini | ganz genau! |
| 21:28:13 | jlbiasini | :D |
| 21:28:16 | bluebrother | oh, that's actually pretty easy |
| 21:28:49 | bluebrother | drop the changes done in my commit and replace it with your version. Then run lupdate rbutilqt.pro |
| 21:29:05 | bluebrother | that will update the translation source files while keeping the existing translations |
| 21:29:17 | bluebrother | or better, run lupdate -noobsolete rbutilqt.pro |
| 21:29:25 | jlbiasini | ok |
| 21:29:34 | bluebrother | (that's what I did) |
| 21:29:48 | jlbiasini | what is lupdate?? |
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| 21:33:38 | bluebrother | it's a tool that syncs the ts file with the strings in the code. |
| 21:33:51 | jlbiasini | ah ok |
| 21:33:52 | bluebrother | it's part of Qt |
| 21:34:06 | bluebrother | (might be called lupdate-qt4 depending on your distro / installation) |
| 21:34:24 | bluebrother | (pretty much the same as distros do with qmake vs qmake-qt4 etc) |
| 21:34:45 | jlbiasini | no it was lupdate (debian 64) |
| 21:34:59 | bluebrother | http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/linguist-manager.html#lupdate |
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| 21:35:48 | bluebrother | I sometimes run it and commit all updated translation files even if the translation itself isn't updated −− helps if someone wants to update a translation and can't / forgets to run lupdate first. |
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| 21:47:52 | saratoga | dfkt: how were you accidentally hitting the pitch screen? |
| 21:48:00 | saratoga | i don't think i've had that happen, at least not on the clip+ |
| 21:50:45 | dfkt | by sticking it in my jeans front pocket ;) |
| 21:51:18 | dfkt | accidental play/pause or track skip is no biggie, but fixing pitch changes and getting out of the pitch screen is really annoying |
| 21:51:44 | dfkt | it's more of an issue with the zip than the clip+ though |
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| 21:53:56 | blackers | do you know why i have a poor transfer rate? i transfer @600Ko/s, i have an iPod 5th gen |
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| 21:54:31 | saratoga | dfkt: so its the play button getting pressed by accident? |
| 21:54:56 | dfkt | saratoga, yes - a long press on the play button is IMO a really poor place for such a niche feature |
| 21:55:15 | saratoga | well most other buttons would be just as easy to hit right? |
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| 21:55:53 | dfkt | yeah, but no other functions in the wps screen are that hard to get out of as the pitch screen |
| 21:57:01 | dfkt | i'm not sure if/where other ports have the pitch screen? |
| 21:57:14 | dfkt | on my x5 a long press on play/pause stops playback |
| 21:57:35 | jlbiasini | bluebrother: here we go g#124 but check I merge it correctly because I'm not really sure |
| 21:57:35 | saratoga | we could make select exit the pitch screen |
| 21:57:36 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #124 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,124 : Rockbox Utility: update french translation by Jean-Louis Biasini (changes/24/124/1) |
| 21:57:38 | saratoga | i think its unused now |
| 21:58:16 | saratoga | "Select Reset pitch and speed to 100%." |
| 21:58:19 | saratoga | so i guess not |
| 21:58:28 | dfkt | now it's power, iirc - the other issue is that you often have to fix pitch and/or speed before exiting the pitch screen |
| 21:58:39 | saratoga | "reset and quit" would be an option for select, but that might be really confusing for people |
| 21:58:49 | saratoga | we could also swap power and select |
| 21:59:00 | dfkt | i'd love to just have the pitch screen optional - enabled or disabled in the menu |
| 21:59:12 | dfkt | then the keymap could stay as it is, and whoever uses pitch is still happy |
| 21:59:22 | saratoga | i'd be ok with that, but i also think the keymap should be improved |
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| 21:59:35 | saratoga | i don't know what other people think though |
| 21:59:51 | dfkt | other than the return-to-wps improvements i think the keymap works very well |
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| 22:00:03 | saratoga | the radio screen and keyboard keymaps are weird |
| 22:00:12 | saratoga | the keyboard one in particular is really really weird |
| 22:00:28 | dfkt | that's true - i gave up naming presets on the player :p |
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| 22:00:45 | saratoga | its something like short press to select, long press to quit, so you have to actually sort of insert a charcter and thne hold it down and that saves it |
| 22:00:56 | dfkt | the fm keymap was made by me back in the days... but it sure could be better |
| 22:01:04 | saratoga | ha didn't realize that |
| 22:01:15 | dfkt | funman tricked me into it ;) |
| 22:01:19 | saratoga | i assumed it was copy and pasted from the original sansas |
| 22:01:37 | saratoga | i do like that comment in the keymap "copied from c200, fix later" |
| 22:02:00 | dfkt | i guess that is wrong then |
| 22:02:12 | saratoga | oh i don't remember what part of the keymap |
| 22:02:21 | saratoga | or if its even right, may not be related to anything we're talking about |
| 22:02:33 | kugel | saratoga: but guess what happens if someone copied the keymap file that was copied from the c200 (and so forth) :) |
| 22:03:15 | saratoga | i'm sure it was copied from the e200 |
| 22:03:19 | saratoga | which probably started out as an iriver |
| 22:03:29 | dfkt | i'm trying the clip zip fm screen at the moment (never actually used it) - seems fairly straightforward to me, what the center and down buttons do |
| 22:03:30 | kugel | I found keymaps are pretty uncontroversial until the target is promoted stable |
| 22:03:50 | saratoga | the sansas are weird since so many people use them |
| 22:04:02 | saratoga | usually new ports don't get a lot of attention right away like they did |
| 22:04:04 | dfkt | using the home button to switch between scanning and preset is a bit off though - that could be used for the quickscreen, same as in the wps |
| 22:04:13 | kugel | often people are afraid of changing keymaps that are just that way in order to have it compile ;) |
| 22:04:21 | saratoga | quick screen is the one with "shuffle" and "repeat"? |
| 22:04:25 | saratoga | in the WPS that is |
| 22:04:25 | dfkt | yeah |
| 22:04:31 | dfkt | and whatever you put there |
| 22:04:46 | saratoga | ugh and select doesn't quit the quickscreen |
| 22:05:05 | kugel | saratoga: normally the button that enters it quits it too |
| 22:05:12 | saratoga | Press Long Home to access it and Select to exit. |
| 22:05:15 | dfkt | shuffle/repeat makes no sense for fm, but bass/treble/crossfeed/etc quick access sure would |
| 22:05:16 | saratoga | that doesn't work for me |
| 22:05:33 | dfkt | in the wps? |
| 22:05:49 | saratoga | yeah |
| 22:05:53 | saratoga | i hold home and it enters |
| 22:05:55 | dfkt | short home exits quickscreen, which is much more logical |
| 22:06:04 | saratoga | but select does not exit it like the manual says, only home does that |
| 22:06:07 | dfkt | guess the manual is more complicated ;) |
| 22:06:17 | saratoga | perhaps both should exit? |
| 22:06:47 | saratoga | we should start a wiki of Sansa keymap weirdness |
| 22:06:57 | dfkt | wouldn't hurt to have it redundant |
| 22:07:01 | dfkt | hah |
| 22:08:06 | saratoga | anyone care if I just fix this right now to match what the manual says? or do i have to ask |
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| 22:08:22 | dfkt | just don't take the short home press away please :) |
| 22:08:45 | dfkt | or maybe better to adjust the manual? |
| 22:09:19 | saratoga | the keymap actually defines both home and power to quit it, neither of which the manual mentions :) |
| 22:09:30 | dfkt | heh |
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| 22:09:34 | saratoga | i could add select (currently does nothing for some reason) and leave the others |
| 22:09:47 | saratoga | i think having select not do anything in a menu is really weird actually |
| 22:10:03 | saratoga | well i guess its a "screen" but it functions like a menu |
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| 22:11:52 | saratoga | kugel: (i think i haven't asked you already) did you have an opinion on FS #12288 ? |
| 22:12:08 | saratoga | i think all the other AMS developers were in favor |
| 22:12:23 | kugel | no |
| 22:12:24 | kugel | :) |
| 22:12:30 | kugel | (I have no opinion) |
| 22:12:38 | saratoga | ok then as far as I am concerned its agreed on |
| 22:13:00 | saratoga | you think its worth sending an email to the list reminding people that i've been asking about this for weeks or should i just do it |
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| 22:13:37 | kugel | not sure |
| 22:13:51 | kugel | difficult to tell for a target that went stable within a few weeks |
| 22:14:02 | saratoga | its for all clips, not just the zip |
| 22:14:05 | saratoga | they all use the same keymap |
| 22:14:14 | dfkt | oh, seems i was a bit too late with FS #12596 |
| 22:14:23 | dfkt | didn't see FS #12288 before |
| 22:15:10 | kugel | ah ok |
| 22:15:16 | kugel | what did HOME do before? |
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| 22:15:35 | dfkt | home returns to main menu |
| 22:15:47 | saratoga | kugel: it would return you to the file or radio menu |
| 22:15:50 | kugel | I think going to music/fm radio from the very main menu (and to the main menu from anywhere else) would make sense |
| 22:16:33 | saratoga | kugel: (more info) http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,31572.0.html |
| 22:16:45 | saratoga | "Press \ActionStdQuickScreen{} to access it and \ActionQuickScreenExit{} to exit." |
| 22:16:50 | saratoga | ugh this isn't going to be so easy to fix |
| 22:17:34 | saratoga | oh maybe not |
| 22:17:42 | * | kugel maintains that he has no opinion on the clip keymap |
| 22:19:29 | saratoga | fair enough |
| 22:21:03 | saratoga | is the manual built through configure? |
| 22:21:16 | kugel | saratoga: fwiw, I *was* a AMS developer until the whole RaaA thing distracted me ;) |
| 22:21:24 | saratoga | yeah i remember |
| 22:21:30 | kugel | so it's probably better to not count me in |
| 22:21:42 | saratoga | i nominated you for SVN access so that you would work on AMS more :) |
| 22:21:52 | kugel | heh, which I did :) |
| 22:23:17 | kugel | saratoga: and thanks for believing in me too :) |
| 22:23:33 | saratoga | no problem |
| 22:23:39 | saratoga | ah its "make manual" |
| 22:24:31 | kugel | ah right the manual should reflect the change |
| 22:24:57 | saratoga | right now i'm just trying to fix the keymap for the quckscreen in the manual |
| 22:25:14 | saratoga | although i guess i could do all of this at once as sort of keymap + manual fix |
| 22:25:37 | saratoga | or use git's new thing to do it as several commits |
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| 22:31:51 | saratoga | so i do a "git add" of the manual file I changed, then do a commit and it locally commits my changes until i push them? |
| 22:32:26 | kugel | yes |
| 22:32:35 | kugel | git commit -v shows the diff it's going to commit |
| 22:34:31 | saratoga | is there a template for the commit window? |
| 22:34:38 | saratoga | or should I just describe like i do for SVN |
| 22:35:39 | Bagder | git add -p is also nice if you just want to commit a part of the diff |
| 22:36:45 | bertrik | hm, I used git add so far only like I used to use svn add |
| 22:36:58 | Bagder | they're not really the same |
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| 22:39:13 | saratoga | whats the command to revert a patch? |
| 22:39:39 | Bagder | did you commit it? |
| 22:39:49 | Bagder | or just applied |
| 22:40:15 | Bagder | as 'git checkout [file]' is fine if you didn't commit it |
| 22:40:27 | Bagder | if you committed it, you want git reset |
| 22:40:50 | Bagder | that's also why working in branches is a good idea |
| 22:41:06 | Bagder | since you can just abandon one if you decide it was bad |
| 22:41:17 | saratoga | i didn't commit it |
| 22:41:19 | AlexP | We need svn-git, to use svn locally to work with a git repo :) |
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| 22:42:24 | saratoga | now that i've committed two patches locally, I just do "git push origin HEAD:master"? |
| 22:42:33 | n1s | there are like 10 subtly different ways of doing everything and few people seem to grasp all the details |
| 22:42:41 | saratoga | no its better this way so i learn what the hell git is doing |
| 22:43:19 | n1s | saratoga: i just followed the steps in the UsingGit page and that worked for me |
| 22:43:20 | bertrik | saratoga, a git log before the push to verify things is usually a good idea |
| 22:43:37 | Bagder | "git log -p" is nice for the full patch view |
| 22:44:06 | saratoga | hmm i noticed a typo in my commit |
| 22:44:14 | Bagder | "git commit −−amend" |
| 22:44:28 | saratoga | how does it know which commit gets amended? |
| 22:44:37 | Bagder | it only amends the last |
| 22:44:47 | saratoga | how do i amend the first? |
| 22:45:13 | Bagder | then you create a new branch, and "cherry-pick" in the commits one by one and amend them as you pick them |
| 22:45:33 | Bagder | "cherry-pick" sucks in a commit from one branch into another |
| 22:45:51 | saratoga | how do i do that? |
| 22:46:06 | saratoga | oh hell how do i just revert everything and start over |
| 22:46:14 | kugel | AlexP: haha, what a bad idea :) |
| 22:46:16 | jlbiasini | Bagder: could I get developper permission on FS (I cannot even edit the task I open for now...) |
| 22:46:41 | Bagder | "git reset −−hard HEAD" I believe throws away all local commits |
| 22:47:00 | bertrik | or you could just commit your fix, interactive rebase and mark the fix as a fixup |
| 22:47:04 | kugel | no it throws all uncommitted stuff |
| 22:47:18 | * | bluebrother^ runs over to jlbiasini and steals a p from a word :) |
| 22:47:18 | Bagder | with −−hard and HEAD? |
| 22:47:23 | kugel | yes |
| 22:47:26 | saratoga | that didn't seem to do anything |
| 22:47:31 | bertrik | HEAD^ perhaps? |
| 22:47:45 | Bagder | ah yes, or ~[count] for the number to cut off |
| 22:47:45 | kugel | HEAD is the latest commit, local or not |
| 22:47:59 | saratoga | so how do i do HEAD-1 |
| 22:48:23 | kugel | ~, not - |
| 22:48:26 | jlbiasini | :D |
| 22:48:27 | kugel | or just HEAD^ |
| 22:48:36 | Bagder | HEAD^ is -1 |
| 22:49:44 | * | n1s watches as more evidence in support of his point is presented :) |
| 22:49:46 | kugel | jlbiasini: you usually get FS permission when you're given push access |
| 22:50:17 | * | n1s also wonders if kugel is going to s/COMITTERS/PUSHERS |
| 22:50:42 | bluebrother^ | kugel: we have given people developer permissions on FS without commit access in the past. |
| 22:50:56 | kugel | bluebrother^: really? |
| 22:51:02 | * | kugel wasn't aware |
| 22:51:11 | * | kugel also said usually to be on the safe side ;) |
| 22:51:20 | Bagder | n1s: I agree with you, but svn is like a kids toy compared to git being a real car, of course git allows a bazillion more ways to do things |
| 22:51:40 | Bagder | including many more ways to shoot yourself in the foot |
| 22:52:08 | kugel | someday git will be the shorthand for redundancy |
| 22:52:20 | dfkt | git is the scariest thing i've ever tried not getting frightened of |
| 22:52:23 | saratoga | alright going to try this |
| 22:53:02 | bluebrother^ | so let the shooting begin! |
| 22:53:04 | n1s | Bagder: yeah, i'm not saying it's bad, it's just way more complicated than svn for doing simple things |
| 22:53:09 | bluebrother^ | oh wait, we already migrated :P |
| 22:53:34 | Bagder | n1s: yes, but not without benefits |
| 22:53:44 | bluebrother^ | n1s: not really. You can do things you can't do with svn |
| 22:53:47 | n1s | and when you google for how to do something ther are always several different ways to do things that differ slightly |
| 22:53:58 | bluebrother^ | apart from that, there's http://git.or.cz/course/svn.html |
| 22:54:01 | saratoga | "[remote rejected] HEAD -> master (you are not allowed to upload merges)" |
| 22:54:06 | Bagder | it took me a long while to adjust to git as well |
| 22:54:16 | saratoga | i don't know what any of that means |
| 22:54:33 | n1s | bluebrother^: yes i know, that doesn't change that it's more complicated for simple things |
| 22:54:54 | jlbiasini | I find git very exciting! I was just about to fully understand svn before we migrated. Git is clearly super powerfull if ones get enough patient to really learn how to use it |
| 22:55:00 | bluebrother^ | saratoga: when you pull (and have local commits) you get a merge commit. |
| 22:55:15 | bluebrother^ | but our configuration currently doesn't allow pushing such merge commits |
| 22:55:23 | Bagder | git pull −−rebase |
| 22:55:27 | bluebrother^ | use git pull −−rebase to avoid merge commits |
| 22:55:35 | AlexP | They break something or other apparently :) |
| 22:55:44 | CIA-44 | Commit f6e5ec4 in rockbox by Michael Giacomelli: Update the manual to include Home as a way of quitting the quicksreen on the Clip players. Leave Select in place since we'll add that next. |
| 22:55:45 | CIA-44 | Commit 8125877 in rockbox by Michael Giacomelli: Enable leaving the quickscreen with Select as the manual currently states should be possible. |
| 22:55:57 | saratoga | YES |
| 22:56:00 | Bagder | AlexP: not really, it is just a policy |
| 22:56:23 | AlexP | Bagder: I thought they made history hard to follow or something? |
| 22:56:26 | * | Bagder hands saratoga his git certificate |
| 22:56:40 | jlbiasini | :D |
| 22:56:53 | AlexP | Bagder: You can't get rid of it that easily |
| 22:56:58 | Bagder | AlexP: some will argue that, sure, but it's like a religious issue in the git land |
| 22:57:01 | * | bluebrother^ throws http://tbaggery.com/2008/04/19/a-note-about-git-commit-messages.html in the channel |
| 22:57:25 | AlexP | Bagder: ah, I just believe what I'm told in this area |
| 22:57:52 | Bagder | I too usually use the rebase approach in most projects |
| 22:58:11 | CIA-44 | 8125877 build result: All green |
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| 23:07:38 | jlbiasini | Is it normal if mpio hd300 manual doesn't compile? |
| 23:08:39 | saratoga | the build server has an up to date compile |
| 23:08:42 | saratoga | so i assume it should compile |
| 23:10:35 | jlbiasini | ok I will start on some thing fresh and test that again |
| 23:16:05 | jlbiasini | right it compiles |
| 23:17:26 | jlbiasini | right I forgot a make clean |
| 23:22:54 | saratoga | "All settings are stored on the unit. However, Rockbox does not access the flash storage solely for the purpose of saving settings." |
| 23:23:04 | saratoga | why is at the start of the "Main Menu" section |
| 23:24:15 | saratoga | does the manual not include a section for the main menu keymap? |
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