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| 00:30:35 | bluebrother^ | jlbiasini: sorry, it's "lupdate -no-obsolete". Seems lupdate doesn't warn if you use "-noobsolete" intstead :( |
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| 00:40:53 | KiwiCam | So, there have been a lot of changes lately with what we can do with custom themes. I have a bitmap that has 128 subimages. I'd like to use this as a background in a Progess Bar and a slider with 22 subimages. Can I do this now? |
| 00:42:41 | kugel | "a slider with 22 subimages"? |
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| 00:43:19 | kugel | you can specify progressbar background and slider images |
| 00:43:28 | kugel | without subimages at all |
| 00:45:34 | KiwiCam | Could you give me an example please? |
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| 00:46:32 | gevaerts | KiwiCam: my latest theme does something like that |
| 00:46:34 | kugel | KiwiCam: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWPS#Bar_Tags |
| 00:47:00 | gevaerts | http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=1535 |
| 00:47:56 | KiwiCam | gevaerts: I'll have a look. I'm just not picturing it. It's probably because I haven't looked at this for ages, so I keep forgetting half of what we can do with the code. |
| 00:49:04 | KiwiCam | Actually. I was just looking at that. Your PB has only one background. I want it to switch between 128. |
| 00:49:39 | gevaerts | hm, not sure |
| 00:50:05 | KiwiCam | The slider's fine. I've done that a few times. It's the BG. |
| 00:50:24 | kugel | you want different backgrounds? |
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| 00:51:06 | kugel | i.e. not just the same image divided into 128 parts (completing the whole picture)? |
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| 00:52:03 | blackbird | Does anyone know how good the port for the Ipod Classic (6th Gen) is? |
| 00:52:37 | blackbird | My Gigabeat F40 is in terrible condition |
| 00:55:05 | KiwiCam | Have a look at this an imagine it as the ground.... http://i.imgur.com/j9fcm.png |
| 00:55:27 | KiwiCam | an s/b and |
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| 00:56:50 | kugel | KiwiCam: I guess you can make 128 separate %pv() |
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| 01:01:07 | KiwiCam | What about just having a viewport under the PB viewport (with no background), which cycles through the 128 images? |
| 01:02:19 | KiwiCam | The PB would just show the Slider images. |
| 01:02:35 | kugel | I don't think that'll work |
| 01:02:39 | jlbiasini | bluebrother^: I've updated it, thx :) |
| 01:03:04 | jlbiasini | now only my change appears |
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| 01:06:56 | KiwiCam | OK. I'll just have a go at the 128 %pv()'s. |
| 01:07:02 | KiwiCam | Thanks. |
| 01:12:19 | * | [Saint] wonders what changes exactly have happened lately regarding custom themes. |
| 01:13:00 | [Saint] | Maybe its a different definition of 'lately' than my own. |
| 01:13:27 | dfkt | could some forum admin please recover my last post? |
| 01:13:39 | KiwiCam | Actually. I can't see how that would do the trick. I want the ground moving (BG image) and I want a UFO flying above the ground (which I'll animate using the slider function). The UFO moves based on the PB value until it get to the far right side. |
| 01:14:57 | gevaerts | Hm, I was going to ask... |
| 01:15:10 | AlexP | dfkt: Done |
| 01:15:19 | gevaerts | [Saint]: is there a problem with overlapping viewports if only one of them actually has contents? |
| 01:15:24 | dfkt | AlexP, thanks |
| 01:15:38 | AlexP | you're welcome |
| 01:15:42 | [Saint] | gevaerts: no. |
| 01:16:13 | [Saint] | There doesn't seem to be any reason to, though. |
| 01:16:25 | [Saint] | Am I not thinking laterally enough? ;) |
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| 01:20:07 | gevaerts | Clearly not :) |
| 01:20:36 | gevaerts | [Saint]: how would you implement list items that are not vertically aligned? |
| 01:20:57 | kugel | can we forbit URLs in posts for people with 0 post count? |
| 01:23:27 | dfkt | can the forum not forbid me from posting at all? ;) |
| 01:23:36 | [Saint] | gevaerts: I'm not sure you could. |
| 01:23:53 | gevaerts | [Saint]: sure you can :) |
| 01:26:06 | [Saint] | I can't think of a way to do so off the top of my head, but then, you're the skinned list expert these days. |
| 01:26:28 | gevaerts | I'll try to have a go on a bit |
| 01:26:38 | [Saint] | Actually ...I think I managed this when skinned lusts were still in testing. |
| 01:26:53 | evilnick | lists* |
| 01:27:04 | [Saint] | Heh. |
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| 01:33:52 | KiwiCam | This is why I like the idea of the %ss tag. In addition to what I'm trying o do above, I'd like to be able to use something that gives me the values of a tag as a value. Unlike %ss (say %sn). I can use those values in an offset %xd(El,%ss(1, 1, %cM)). Stuff like that. I'd also like to be able to use the %sn to change a bitmap name ie candlemask$sn.bmp. Or anything that can help with making interesting animations. |
| 01:34:29 | gevaerts | KiwiCam: what *exactly* would the "value of a tag" be in general? |
| 01:35:44 | kugel | don't we all want %rm()? (read mind) |
| 01:36:11 | KiwiCam | 1 to 100 for a start. ie PB. 0-60 with %cS |
| 01:36:34 | * | gevaerts isn't sure he follows |
| 01:36:50 | KiwiCam | I can use the seconds to animate something and even break that down into subseconds with %t() |
| 01:37:13 | KiwiCam | I'll have a think about how I can be clearer. I'll come back. |
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| 01:53:34 | gevaerts | [Saint]: something like http://paste.debian.net/157511/ works, although I need a new tag to tell me the relative position of the current item |
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| 02:10:21 | dfkt | i have the status bar defined in the sbs, and i want the wps to display fullscreen album art when paused. is it possible to disable the status bar when the wps is paused (and when the current track has album art)? i tried a lot of approaches, but nothing so far worked. i'm talking about this theme - http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=1540&target=sansaclipzip |
| 02:12:05 | dfkt | just want to get rid of the status bar for the 3rd screenshot |
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| 02:38:26 | gevaerts | [Saint]: http://paste.debian.net/157515 plus g#126 does everything I want, although there seem to be some glitches left |
| 02:38:27 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #126 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,126 : Add %LR and %LC to get at the current row and columm in skinned lists. by Frank Gevaerts (changes/26/126/1) |
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| 04:29:39 | KiwiCam | How do I represent subimage labels greater than 52? ie if a=1,b=2,...A=27....Z=52 What would be the rest up to 60? http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWPS#xd_45_Display_a_preloaded_40sub_41image |
| 04:36:55 | KiwiCam | Strike that. Using %xd(E,%xx) instead. |
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| 07:05:10 | KiwiCam | What about a simple Count Function? %cN(128) - Count from 1 to 128 and then start from 1 again. The value returned is a number, not a string. I've found some good solutions to a lot of what I want. No perfect, but workable. I'm quite pleased with it. |
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| 09:47:14 | kugel | KiwiCam: I think you can actually do that |
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| 09:51:05 | kugel | gevaerts: is g#126 pixel or line based? |
| 09:51:06 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #126 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,126 : Add %LR and %LC to get at the current row and columm in skinned lists. by Frank Gevaerts (changes/26/126/1) |
| 09:51:28 | kugel | I ask because we wanted to get rid of line based at some point |
| 09:51:36 | kugel | not sure if it's still the case |
| 09:53:12 | kugel | why do we have variables like "origional_x" :( |
| 09:55:52 | n1s | to distinguish it from the cheap knock off x obviously |
| 09:57:57 | kugel | the typo makes it look even more cheap |
| 09:58:26 | kugel | and the its friends origional_{y,w,h} too |
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| 10:07:43 | KiwiCam | Can I use the %xd like this now? - %pb(0,0,-,11,-,slider,%xd(H,6),nofill,nobar) |
| 10:08:08 | kugel | no |
| 10:09:34 | KiwiCam | Thanks |
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| 10:10:37 | KiwiCam | Actually. My example should have been this, but I expect the answer is the same. %pb(0,0,-,11,-,slider,%xd(H,%cS),nofill,nobar) |
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| 10:12:21 | Labarador | i installed rockbox on my ipod video and when i select database it only says "Building database... 5628 found (PREV to return)" |
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| 10:39:18 | JdGordon | kugel: no, we are getting trid of line based lcd functions, there is no reason to get rid of lines/rows in the lists |
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| 10:39:59 | kugel | ah okay |
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| 11:18:53 | kugel | AlexP: "by comparison" <- that sounds strange to me |
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| 11:26:32 | JdGordon | KiwiCam: what target do you want to do the counting on? |
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| 12:07:10 | lorenzo92 | kugel: I replied to your question, the thing seems good :) Just to decide whether putting the module into firmware or into build folder (maybe it's better to ease further updates to the module) |
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| 12:09:24 | kugel | lorenzo92: does it need to be updated (assuming no bugs)? It allows complete control over the tuner right? |
| 12:09:34 | kugel | I mean we won't need to change it to add feature |
| 12:09:43 | lorenzo92 | yes you're right too... |
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| 12:11:58 | kugel | so I think the firmware is a good fit |
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| 12:13:22 | kugel | lorenzo92: I didn't understand what you said about threads? |
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| 12:15:27 | lorenzo92 | yes ok firware is pretty fine, for rds I simply tried to copy and modify the code in .. wait |
| 12:16:37 | lorenzo92 | kugel: fmradio-i2c-as3525.c |
| 12:17:08 | lorenzo92 | If I understood the logic correctly, it waits for an interrupt from the radio chip GPIO -> RDS is ready! |
| 12:21:40 | lorenzo92 | so implementing the gpio part it's ok, we need to set up a thread that waits for it (I guess: gpio_is_high, then reset it, read rds,and again waiting) |
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| 12:27:51 | lorenzo92 | My attempt was written into radio-ypr0.h (so it works pretty much like fmradio-XXX.c) |
| 12:28:38 | lorenzo92 | kugel: http://pastebin.com/0PpuPLet |
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| 12:40:00 | JdGordon | anyone online with a target with 1/2 bit lcd? |
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| 12:40:47 | lorenzo92 | JdGordon: by the way, I tested the "lcd-build" in my samsung YP-R0 and seemed everything was working fine... |
| 12:40:47 | CIA-44 | Commit 13412f6 in rockbox by Jonathan Gordon: main menu: Add the ability to hide and reorder the main menu items. |
| 12:41:00 | lorenzo92 | cool feature! |
| 12:41:03 | JdGordon | lorenzo92: thanks |
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| 12:43:54 | CIA-44 | 13412f6 build result: All green |
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| 12:49:15 | dfkt | goodbye useless database! \o/ |
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| 12:54:01 | bertrik | eh wait, wasn't that a NODO? |
| 12:56:43 | dfkt | hi guys, how do i get the database back? ;) |
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| 12:59:22 | n1s | JdGordon: do you plan to make a gui for changing that menu option thingy? |
| 12:59:28 | bertrik | meh @ USB buggyness, corruption, non-responsiveness on an ASMv2 target |
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| 13:00:02 | JdGordon | n1s: yes, not so high priority just yet though |
| 13:00:09 | n1s | ok |
| 13:00:21 | JdGordon | I want to see how much code would be needed to add it the the ui without needing a plugin for it |
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| 13:04:44 | dfkt | the backdrop %X tag seems to disable the viewport background color %Vb tag - is there a way to override that? |
| 13:05:13 | JdGordon | working on it |
| 13:05:19 | JdGordon | but no, not currently |
| 13:05:24 | dfkt | thank you |
| 13:06:32 | blackers | hi i have a problem of very slow transfer with iPod 5th. maximal transfer speed is around 800Kb/s, do you think it's hardware? it's happening with OF and rockbox |
| 13:09:17 | JdGordon | hmm.. the lcd changed broke mr500 sim :/ |
| 13:19:25 | * | JdGordon needs to bug someone who knows the 2bit lcd drivers |
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| 13:31:26 | CIA-44 | Commit 28e0df7 in rockbox by Nils Wallménius: (Author: Fukuda Takafumi) Japanese translation update by Fukuda Takafumi (FS #12375) |
| 13:31:27 | CIA-44 | Commit a6005c3 in rockbox by Nils Wallménius: Add Fukuda Takafumi to the credits |
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| 13:42:30 | wodz | JdGordon: I told you mrobe500 is special :-) |
| 13:43:23 | JdGordon | kill it in fire! |
| 13:44:38 | wodz | oh, and I have question about credits - unwinder was written by Michael McTernan should we add him to the credits even if he didn't contribute to rb directly? |
| 13:45:03 | JdGordon | yeah, in the bottom section for imported code |
| 13:45:21 | wodz | JdGordon: the other weird targets are M3/HD200 (the same pixelformat) |
| 13:46:01 | dfkt | x5 remote is 2bit too? |
| 13:46:50 | wodz | yes but m3/hd200 have rather weird way of packing pixels |
| 13:47:52 | JdGordon | wodz: do you have either of them? |
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| 13:49:47 | wodz | I have HD200, but usb bridge is broken so the only way to update rockbox on it is to find CF card reader. I may try to borrow one on Monday. |
| 13:50:01 | CIA-44 | Commit ff54e03 in rockbox by Nils Wallménius: Make some arrays const. |
| 13:50:02 | CIA-44 | Commit 663667a in rockbox by Nils Wallménius: (Author: Cástor Muñoz) IPod Classic/6G: LCD sleep (FS #12523) by Cástor Muñoz |
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| 13:51:41 | CIA-44 | Commit 3cdd50b in rockbox by Marcin Bukat: Add unwarminder author to CREDITS |
| 13:54:58 | gevaerts | kugel: "no". It says which list item position you're rendering. That's not really related to pixels or lines |
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| 13:56:57 | JdGordon | hey gevaerts, if you get a chance can you please do another round of builds for the lcd changes? |
| 13:57:05 | JdGordon | or just the nont 16-bit displays |
| 13:57:15 | JdGordon | also.. can you please test it on your mr500? |
| 13:57:19 | JdGordon | mine is in peices |
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| 13:58:23 | JdGordon | lebellium: i tihnk im gonna just add an option param to %ss so you can tell it you expect a number |
| 13:58:30 | JdGordon | instead of trying to guess what you wanted |
| 13:59:27 | gevaerts | That sounds like a good idea |
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| 14:00:49 | gevaerts | Or maybe (thinking out loud here) add an %atoi() tag that makes this work for all strings |
| 14:01:30 | JdGordon | really? |
| 14:01:44 | wodz | haha, reinventing C syntax with skin lang weirdness :-) |
| 14:02:06 | JdGordon | %?atoi(%ss(%pv, 0, 1))<foo> |
| 14:02:09 | JdGordon | YUCK! |
| 14:02:19 | gevaerts | Just a suggestion! :) |
| 14:05:12 | lebellium | Hello JdGordon . Either you mistook me for another person or I'm not fresh enough yet to understand what you said, just woke up :) |
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| 14:07:04 | JdGordon | err ok, woops :) |
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| 14:08:14 | * | gevaerts has problems answering JdGordon's question on #g126 |
| 14:08:25 | gevaerts | It's obvious to me what I mean! |
| 14:09:09 | JdGordon | does row/col mean th elist row and column when its tiled? |
| 14:09:38 | gevaerts | yes |
| 14:09:49 | gevaerts | Well, row also works if it's not tiled |
| 14:09:58 | JdGordon | ok, cool |
| 14:10:15 | gevaerts | That allows you to do things like having a different font in the right column or things like that |
| 14:11:08 | JdGordon | I can only ask... "Why?" but :) |
| 14:11:37 | gevaerts | Well, the font idea is a bit silly |
| 14:12:16 | gevaerts | But this allows me (well, the row number anyway, but I thought it would be best to do the column as well) to do this wavy list of mine semi-cleanly |
| 14:12:51 | gevaerts | semi- in the sense that it's full of overlapping viewports only one of which actually has contents |
| 14:13:42 | gevaerts | Or it would allow you to draw grid lines (implemented as images I guess) only inside the grid :) |
| 14:14:27 | gevaerts | Or use lighter colours near the top and bottom, giving the impression of fading in and out, implying an infinite list |
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| 14:18:33 | JdGordon | arg, why the hell am i getting the fallback WPS? |
| 14:18:46 | JdGordon | %?ss(0, 1, %cM)<1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10> |
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| 14:20:07 | wodz | JdGordon: I know this is not that important but LCD_ADDR() is not the best name IMO. It deals with framebuffer address not lcd address |
| 14:20:45 | JdGordon | yeah, I'll reaplce that once its working |
| 14:21:51 | gevaerts | JdGordon: can any numeric tag be used as a conditional? |
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| 14:22:08 | JdGordon | yes |
| 14:22:15 | JdGordon | that wont break the parser anyway |
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| 14:23:02 | gevaerts | I'm thinking of these rows and columns again. If you know you have e.g. three rows, %?LR<A,B,C> can be handy |
| 14:23:12 | gevaerts | If you have 25 rows, things get less fun :) |
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| 14:25:23 | JdGordon | how about we strip out everything and just use lua for the entire UI? |
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| 14:28:34 | JdGordon | grrr... | is the optoin seperater... not comma |
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| 14:32:36 | bertrik | JdGordon, I have been wondering about something like that :D |
| 14:32:46 | bertrik | (using lua or similar) |
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| 14:50:27 | n1s | um, so now i've somehow gotten a merge thing in git, how do i get rid of it? |
| 14:50:47 | JdGordon | git pull −−rebase |
| 14:51:13 | CIA-44 | Commit 31a0595 in rockbox by Jonathan Gordon: FS #12586 - Modify %ss to be able to use numbers for conditionals |
| 14:52:03 | CIA-44 | Commit 8c7d372 in rockbox by Nils Wallménius: (Author: Cástor Muñoz) FS #12519 - iPod Classic/6G: swap L-R audio channels by Cástor Muñoz |
| 14:52:42 | n1s | ah hmm, i must have forgotten about the −−rebase switch between all the stashing and whatnot |
| 14:53:58 | JdGordon | gevaerts: re g#113, like i said... change tag_table.c so it is DYNAMIC and then your change is fine |
| 14:54:00 | CIA-44 | 31a0595 build result: All green |
| 14:56:17 | gevaerts | ok |
| 14:56:41 | gevaerts | It will have to wait until I'm done building your lcd things though :) |
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| 14:58:26 | JdGordon | gevaerts: can you reply in the thresad when they are online? im going to bed shortly |
| 14:58:36 | gevaerts | Sure |
| 14:58:42 | gevaerts | I'm still not 100% convinced that that's the proper solution, but it makes more sense to me now than it did last time you mentioned that :) |
| 14:59:28 | gevaerts | Oh, and do you mind if I commit that row and column tag thing? |
| 14:59:49 | JdGordon | no, though i'll just a have a quick double check |
| 14:59:59 | * | JdGordon doesnt have issues with adding tags if there is a valid use case |
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| 15:01:03 | JdGordon | but in the future, please manually add me to review tag changes |
| 15:01:21 | JdGordon | and fix the whitespace! |
| 15:01:44 | gevaerts | OK |
| 15:02:39 | JdGordon | is 0 the first col/row or is 1? |
| 15:02:51 | gevaerts | 0 |
| 15:03:26 | gevaerts | I can't think of a use case where these would be actually shown in the theme, so I don't think it makes sense to make them 1-based |
| 15:03:43 | JdGordon | so does %?Lr<first|second> work as expected? |
| 15:04:09 | gevaerts | I haven't tried that yet. I'll try before pushing |
| 15:04:16 | gevaerts | I *want* that to work :) |
| 15:04:30 | JdGordon | you may need to + 1 with the *intval setting |
| 15:05:33 | gevaerts | If that's needed, maybe I should just +1 everywhere. Anyway, if I need to fix more than whitespace, I'll wait for you to review again |
| 15:08:10 | JdGordon | test that and if it works go for it |
| 15:08:14 | JdGordon | the rest is fine |
| 15:08:35 | gevaerts | ok |
| 15:08:47 | * | gevaerts will amaze JdGordon with his *next* theme :) |
| 15:09:55 | JdGordon | fix the mr500 issue with the lcd patch and then you'll love the new options it will bring to skinniningg |
| 15:10:15 | gevaerts | I'll test that one. I won't promise to fix it! |
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| 15:10:59 | gevaerts | and yes, the main issues I have with skinning tend to involve putting things on top of other things |
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| 15:11:51 | JdGordon | how am i supposed to resync a branch to master if rebase destorys the hsitory? |
| 15:11:56 | JdGordon | or I'm not? |
| 15:12:11 | JdGordon | branch in this case being a gerrit push |
| 15:13:38 | gevaerts | I'm not sure if rebase is really bad all the time. I wouldn't be surprised if it works well *if* both branches only differ by the changes you want to move over |
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| 15:13:45 | gevaerts | Otherwise there's cherrypick |
| 15:13:51 | gevaerts | And possibly others |
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| 15:18:03 | gevaerts | JdGordon: you seem to have broken at least iaudiom3 |
| 15:19:08 | gevaerts | More results later :) |
| 15:20:08 | JdGordon | nuts, ok |
| 15:20:53 | JdGordon | oops |
| 15:20:54 | JdGordon | easy fix |
| 15:22:18 | JdGordon | fix pushed, one line change in |
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| 15:22:33 | JdGordon | firmware/drivers/lcd-2bit-vi.c |
| 15:22:41 | JdGordon | so, if you can be bothered restarting or whatever |
| 15:23:43 | * | gevaerts will clone his git clone first |
| 15:25:03 | JdGordon | i hear you like clones, so i cloned your clone something clone? |
| 15:28:43 | CIA-44 | Commit 58b226e in rockbox by Frank Gevaerts: Add "allbuilds" to builds.pm, similar to "stablebuilds" and "usablebuilds" |
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| 15:31:18 | CIA-44 | 58b226e build result: All green |
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| 15:59:10 | CIA-44 | Commit 906e90e in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: Move radio power handling from apps/ to drivers. |
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| 16:00:31 | jlbiasini | pamaury: did you saw my comment on the forum about the delay power up idea? |
| 16:00:54 | pamaury | yes, but this week I was in holydays, I had no time |
| 16:01:29 | pamaury | I posted what the OF does on the forum, we should do something similar |
| 16:01:41 | CIA-44 | 906e90e build result: 0 errors, 18 warnings (Amaury Pouly committed) |
| 16:04:49 | lebellium | So nice to be able to get rid of the shortcuts menu! Thanks JdGordon |
| 16:07:41 | CIA-44 | Commit 7d599b4 in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: radio: include power.h in drivers for tuner_power() |
| 16:08:11 | jlbiasini | pamaury: I ordered a new device and will recieve it soon. At last I will be able to test your touchpad gesture patch |
| 16:08:47 | pamaury | this patch needs some work, I've not touched it since then |
| 16:10:10 | CIA-44 | 7d599b4 build result: All green |
| 16:10:23 | jlbiasini | Yeah, I guess this is nothing very difficult. Most important we have a start |
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| 16:30:55 | blackers | hi, i have a very very slow transfer speed on my iPod 5th gen, any ideas? w/ OF or rockbox it's the same, and the problem is not from my computer... |
| 16:31:51 | evilnick | Try a different USB cable |
| 16:32:27 | gevaerts | How do you know it's not the computer? |
| 16:32:31 | evilnick | If the slow transfer speed is the same on RB or OF then that implies it's some sort of hardware issue, so a different USB cable would rule that out |
| 16:33:09 | blackers | i have already tried a different usb |
| 16:33:21 | blackers | i have geniure and non-geniure |
| 16:34:19 | blackers | i know it's not the computer because i tryed with external hard disk, and the transfer speed is normal |
| 16:34:39 | blackers | i tried on a lot of ports, also on an usb3 port |
| 16:34:54 | gevaerts | What sort of speed do you get? |
| 16:35:06 | blackers | maximal 800kb/s |
| 16:35:34 | blackers | i think i'ts form this damn ipod |
| 16:35:40 | blackers | i bought it on ebay |
| 16:36:03 | blackers | it was originally 30 gb 5th gen, the hard disk have been remplaced for an 80 gb |
| 16:36:03 | gevaerts | Could be. That's definitely much slower than normal |
| 16:36:31 | blackers | also i'v formatted it, it doesn't changed |
| 16:37:26 | * | evilnick guesses at hardware error, and if it's not the USB lead or the computer then chances are it's the iPod |
| 16:37:51 | gevaerts | Well, it doesn't have to be an error. Maybe this disk is just horribly slow in ipods |
| 16:38:31 | blackers | maybe... |
| 16:38:53 | blackers | but there is no way to know |
| 16:41:27 | gevaerts | I believe you can get some information about disk errors from the ipod in diagnostics mode. I don't know the details though |
| 16:41:55 | blackers | ok i'll try |
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| 16:59:14 | gevaerts | JdGordon: setting SKIN_TOKEN_LIST_ITEM_CFG to SKIN_REFRESH_DYNAMIC does *not* solve the problem I'm seeing |
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| 17:07:57 | nkorth | Okay, so the Lua plugin I'm making depends on a few bitmaps. How do I include these in the build? I can't include them in the normal system for turning .bmp into .h, because it's Lua. |
| 17:09:03 | nkorth | Snake2 and Sokoban have .levels files, but I can't find what's making them copy over. |
| 17:11:05 | gevaerts | nkorth: it seems tools/buildzip.pl copies those |
| 17:14:44 | nkorth | thanks, I'll try that |
| 17:28:48 | nkorth | it worked! |
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| 18:07:42 | nyneth | Good evening everybody. I am having a problem with a Sansa Clip+ with Rockbox. It can' be mounted as the original firmware doesn't boot |
| 18:08:06 | nyneth | can't* |
| 18:08:24 | nyneth | Knoppix doesn't recognize the device either... |
| 18:08:58 | gevaerts | How are you trying to boot the original firmware? |
| 18:09:45 | nyneth | I click the left button and the power button at the same time |
| 18:10:05 | nyneth | It appears the "fake flower", but then it freezes |
| 18:10:24 | gevaerts | hm |
| 18:10:29 | nyneth | (sorry for the bad english) |
| 18:11:18 | nyneth | When I connect to the computer with Rockbox on, Windows 7 says it's connected, but doesn't recognize it |
| 18:11:29 | gevaerts | I don't know then. I'm not too familiar with the clip+ though |
| 18:11:50 | nyneth | But Knoppix doesn't help me too much... |
| 18:12:53 | nyneth | Hum... the most strange part, is that when I try to go into "Files" in Rockbox, it keeps in the start screen |
| 18:13:07 | nyneth | Something says me that the filesystem is corrupt... |
| 18:15:36 | evilnick | What does System > Rockbox Info say? |
| 18:16:36 | nyneth | Let me see.. |
| 18:17:02 | nyneth | Battery: Charging |
| 18:17:15 | nyneth | Int: 1.55GB / 1.81GB |
| 18:17:29 | evilnick | Good |
| 18:17:30 | nyneth | Buffer: 5.45 MB |
| 18:17:40 | nyneth | Version: 3.10 |
| 18:17:54 | evilnick | At least RB can see the correct capacity, it should be a 2GB clip+, right? |
| 18:18:20 | nyneth | Yes |
| 18:22:45 | nyneth | In "partition info" shows from P0 to P3, and every partition has 0.0 MB |
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| 18:34:18 | nyneth | I think it's dead for good... thanks anyway |
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| 18:52:46 | Guest4148 | Hi to all, i'm logan someone can help me with my clip plus bricked? |
| 18:53:47 | Guest4148 | i've follow th wiki but clip is recognized with 4mb size.... |
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| 18:56:51 | blackers | hi, i need some help |
| 18:57:16 | blackers | for some reason i need to install rockbox manually, someone can explain or point me on a tutorial? |
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| 19:00:06 | Guest4148 | Hi to all, i'm logan, someone can help me with my clip plus bricked? i've follow the wiki but clip is recognized with 4mb size.... |
| 19:00:46 | AlexP_ | blackers: The manual has manual install instructions |
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| 19:01:59 | blackers | ok, thanks |
| 19:02:15 | bluebrother^ | recognized with 4MiB size? |
| 19:02:35 | Guest4148 | yes... :( |
| 19:03:22 | bluebrother^ | blackers: "for some reason" meaning what exactly? Is there a problem with Rockbox Utility for you? |
| 19:05:23 | Guest4148 | i've shorted the 2 pins as explained in wiki, then connect clip+ to usb, fdisk show: /dev/sda 4Mb 4231680 byte |
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| 19:06:10 | bluebrother^ | Guest4148: which wiki page are you following? |
| 19:06:57 | bluebrother^ | this one: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUnbrick ? |
| 19:07:11 | blackers | no...its from my iPod,i bought it on ebay and it was originally 30GB 5th gen. the guy remplaced it with 80Gb hard drive. now the hard drive have many many problems, i can't add files, i get error messages. so i've formatted it in HFS+ and transferring files seems to work. i wanted to install rockbox on my HFS iPod but it seems unpossible |
| 19:07:27 | blackers | is there any ways? |
| 19:07:40 | bluebrother^ | blackers: Rockbox does not work with HFS+. |
| 19:07:54 | bluebrother^ | also, if you have issues with the disk using a different filesystem won't solve that. |
| 19:08:16 | Guest4148 | bluebrother^ : Yes: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUnbrick this is the wiki that i'm using |
| 19:08:45 | Guest4148 | so? |
| 19:09:32 | bluebrother^ | a 4MiB size sounds more like the recovery mode on e200 |
| 19:09:38 | Guest4148 | sorry for my bad english.... |
| 19:10:09 | Guest4148 | yes, but is the only mode that i have on clip+ |
| 19:10:34 | blackers | do you think its possible to have a small fat32 partition with rockbox system, and another partition in HFS+ with my music files? |
| 19:10:34 | bluebrother^ | no idea. I guess you should try to talk to someone with experience with the clip+. Something I don't have :) |
| 19:11:09 | Guest4148 | ok |
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| 19:11:14 | bluebrother^ | blackers: no. Rockbox does not support HFS+, so putting your music on a HFS+ partition will not make Rockbox able to see it |
| 19:11:32 | bluebrother^ | and as I said, if you have problems with the disk using a different filesystem won't solve them. |
| 19:12:10 | bluebrother^ | either your filesystem was broken, in which case restoring the Ipod with a Windows Itunes should be ok. Or the hard disk is failing, in which case restoring it to a MacPod won't help |
| 19:12:56 | blackers | hmm i don't really understand that...i'm not english. you mean if i have probles with fat32 i'll have the same problems with HFS? but no, i've formatted in HFS and it *seems* to work better so i wanted to give it a try |
| 19:13:21 | blackers | hmm i don't really understand that... −−>"if you have problems with the disk using a different filesystem won't solve them." |
| 19:13:52 | bluebrother^ | blackers: there are two possibilities: |
| 19:14:22 | bluebrother^ | (1) your hard disk is dying. Then HFS+ or FAT32 won't make a difference. |
| 19:14:47 | bluebrother^ | (2) your FAT32 filesystem is broken. Then reformat it. |
| 19:15:27 | blackers | i've already formatted it, and it doesn't make any change. and as i said HFS seems to works |
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| 19:15:34 | blackers | it's a strange problem. |
| 19:16:02 | blackers | with fat32 i can have rockbox and all, but when i add files i have a 800kb transfer speed |
| 19:16:29 | blackers | and after some minutes i have error messages saying it can't add the files |
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| 19:16:46 | blackers | with HFS+ i have 5mb transfer speed |
| 19:16:59 | blackers | and it seems to not have errors |
| 19:17:21 | bluebrother^ | you're on OS X? |
| 19:17:30 | blackers | no windows |
| 19:17:57 | bluebrother^ | how can you use HFS+ on Windows? |
| 19:18:05 | blackers | with a software |
| 19:18:14 | blackers | MacDrive |
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| 19:19:20 | blackers | so i think i'm gonna re try to format in Fat32. is there a simple way to do it? i don't know any software |
| 19:19:37 | bluebrother^ | use Itunes |
| 19:19:51 | blackers | i get an error message |
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| 19:19:58 | bluebrother^ | saying what? |
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| 19:20:03 | blackers | when i restore |
| 19:20:05 | bluebrother^ | and why use HFS+ on Windows? |
| 19:20:09 | blackers | wait i'm doing it |
| 19:20:24 | blackers | error 1439 |
| 19:20:32 | bluebrother^ | using HFS+ on Windows doesn't seem to make much sense to me |
| 19:20:45 | blackers | because it's the only way my iPod works |
| 19:21:17 | blackers | if i'm using fat32 i get a lot of errors and its unpossible to add files |
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| 19:21:53 | bluebrother^ | Apple has an article about this error: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1372 |
| 19:21:56 | Logan2 | Hi to all, there is a expert in bricked sansa clip+? (I'm on this node 2 minutes ago, thanks bluebrothers^ for help) |
| 19:22:11 | bluebrother^ | maybe your cable is slightly broken (i.e. it only works "a bit") |
| 19:22:33 | bluebrother^ | funman: you're familiar with the clip+, right? |
| 19:23:06 | bluebrother^ | blackers: you could also try to use a different PC / cable / USB port |
| 19:23:37 | blackers | i try |
| 19:24:25 | jlbiasini | kugel: is ist possible to use 2 context in PLA? I'm stuck again with remote but this time on logo plugins, remote is used not only to quit but also for direction keys... |
| 19:24:28 | Prodicus | I'm no expert, but it's really really really rare to brick a clip+ using the normal installer etc; the problems rockbox has had were with specific kinds of clip v2 |
| 19:24:46 | Prodicus | How did you brick it? |
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| 19:26:25 | Logan2 | i've loaded some songs, disconnected from pc, (safety remove), the clip+ rebuild the database, after this don't start, |
| 19:26:38 | Logan2 | so i turn off clip+ |
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| 19:27:52 | Logan2 | at restart clip+ say:. "Connect device and recover corrupted FAT |
| 19:28:14 | Prodicus | IOW you weren't doing anything with firmware/rockbox install when it happened? |
| 19:28:53 | Logan2 | i'm doing nothing with firmware |
| 19:29:40 | Logan2 | i try to follow the wiki: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUnbrick but clip+ is recognized as 4mb |
| 19:29:40 | Prodicus | were you using the original firmware, or rockbox? if rockbox, what version? |
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| 19:29:55 | jlbiasini | kugel: ok never mind I got it |
| 19:30:45 | Prodicus | *eek* you don't want to try to mess around with the guts and innards of the player for a filesystem problem unless you've really exhausted all other options |
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| 19:31:53 | Logan2 | Prodicus: i've try all option find in internet |
| 19:32:14 | Logan2 | this is the last one...... |
| 19:33:21 | Logan2 | The rockbox version in use previously is 3.10 |
| 19:34:39 | Prodicus | again, I'm not an expert, but if it's a filesystem problem rather than a firmware problem or hardware failure hardware hacking probably will do more harm than good |
| 19:34:49 | dartmouth | Noob plugin question: I'd like to try fixing the bubbles and rockblox backgrounds for the clip zip, but I'm not sure exactly which files point to the .bmp that's used, or how to make the .bmp included when running 'make'. I know that one of the .h files (IIRC) sets the width/height that the file is chosen by, but I'm at a loss beyond that. Reply any time please, I'll check the log :) Thanks! |
| 19:35:12 | Prodicus | That's why the "unbrick" page says "Talk to us in IRC BEFORE attempting this procedure" in big red letters |
| 19:35:54 | dfkt | is it possible to define a default rwps/rsbs font in a theme cfg? an equivalent to "font: /.rockbox/fonts/blah.fnt"? |
| 19:37:12 | Prodicus | AFAIK a filesystem problem should usually be correctable by simply reformatting the flash |
| 19:38:12 | Logan2 | Yes, i've seen the notice, the problem is not the procedure itself, but the fact that the player is recognized as 4mb |
| 19:38:15 | gevaerts | Prodicus: "recognized as 4mb" implies that it's not just a corrupted filesystem |
| 19:38:39 | Logan2 | yes |
| 19:39:14 | Logan2 | but the clip+ is not recognized by win or linux |
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| 19:39:39 | Logan2 | so i can't format flash |
| 19:41:27 | Logan2 | the only drive that i can see is 4mb and windows is not able to format |
| 19:42:37 | Logan2 | i think is an HW failure, the /SansaAMSUnbrick is the last way... |
| 19:43:04 | Logan2 | to recovery clip+ |
| 19:43:25 | Prodicus | how far have you already gone in pulling apart the player? are you connected via the normal usb connection or via wires you've soldered onto pads on the player? |
| 19:44:00 | Logan2 | via normal usb |
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| 19:50:23 | blackers | bluebrother^> i've formatted in fat32 |
| 19:50:46 | blackers | an i get this poor speed 800kbps |
| 19:53:54 | bluebrother^ | using the Apple firmware or Rockbox? |
| 19:57:03 | Prodicus | Logan2: is the "4mb drive" recognized as a normal usb mass storage drive? what happens if you try to boot the original firmware (hold left while pressing on)? |
| 19:59:25 | blackers | apple firmware |
| 19:59:40 | blackers | but now this is strange because i don't get errors |
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| 20:00:01 | blackers | so if it keep this way it's ok |
| 20:00:29 | Logan2 | Prodicus: the clip+ don't boot, only 4mb drive when connect to pc |
| 20:01:05 | gevaerts | Logan2: talk to funman about this |
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| 20:07:02 | Logan2 | ok thanks, i'll come back tomorrow, thanks to all! |
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| 20:18:20 | KiwiCam | Morning Everyone. |
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| 20:24:49 | funman | bluebrother^: yep |
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| 20:27:17 | KiwiCam | JdGordon: Target is the Clip. A count function would be great for use in %xd for cycling through subimages. I can see it being used to move Viewports Possibly to help cycle through a phase of subimages to "visually merge" to separate Viewports ie two progress bars. I know this just sounds like mass confusion. I have some ideas, but am not sure how to describe them to the more knowledgeable.. I see I have a fix :) for my bug. Thanks. |
| 20:27:17 | KiwiCam | Would you mind clarifying how I use the change? |
| 20:27:47 | KiwiCam | to = two |
| 20:28:07 | jlbiasini | ok so the simulator seems to show that PLA is not working on remote (for example bubble) could someone with a remote device test bubble with remote control and tell me if that works? |
| 20:31:58 | KiwiCam | JdGordon: It would be nice to be able to use the "count" fucntion to change the name of a bitmap as well. ie Bitmap01.bmp to Bitmap(count(xx)).bmp This was I can cycle through bitmaps in a Bar Tag for the background, Image and Slider. |
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| 20:34:08 | gevaerts | KiwiCam: I think that last one is basically not doable |
| 20:34:40 | gevaerts | I might be wrong, but to me that looks like mixing parsing/loading and rendering |
| 20:35:16 | funman | Prodicus: btw the clipv2 is running fine |
| 20:35:51 | KiwiCam | gevaerts: OK. The Slider bitmaps are jerky anyway. I get smoother results using %xd() - Bar Tags are just such a great feature. |
| 20:40:11 | Prodicus | funman: good to hear, and I noticed a couple mentions on the website of code you'd committed to fix the problems. Any idea when they might release a version containing those fixes? I ask because I saw somebody already removed a couple of the warning signs I put on the wiki, but not in a consistent fashion, and I wouldn't want to remove the rest until a release is out with the fix. |
| 20:42:00 | AlexP_ | Speaking of releases, we ought to get going on Rockbox for Workgroups |
| 20:42:08 | AlexP_ | I'll send an email in a bit/tomorrow |
| 20:44:29 | funman | Prodicus: every code is committed and released |
| 20:44:41 | funman | everything for the clipv2 to work fine |
| 20:45:07 | funman | just use last rbutil to install bootloader |
| 20:45:58 | jlbiasini | gevaerts: don't you have a mrobe500? |
| 20:46:08 | gevaerts | jlbiasini: yes, why? |
| 20:46:35 | funman | Prodicus: which warning signs are still here ? |
| 20:46:45 | jlbiasini | could you check if remote controls are working on bubble plugin? |
| 20:46:58 | gevaerts | no. I don't have the remote |
| 20:47:22 | jlbiasini | arf no luck thx anyway... :( |
| 20:51:14 | gevaerts | JdGordon: your changes break the mr500 |
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| 20:56:26 | Prodicus | funman: I put warnings on SansaAMS, SansaClip, and TargetStatus; somebody removed one of the two warnings on SansaAMS a while back, and it looks like you just removed the one on TargetStatus. |
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| 20:59:21 | Prodicus | Hadn't realized all the changes were in the latest rockbox utility release (thought it required a new rockbox release too). I can remove the warnings myself, no problem. |
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| 21:00:57 | AlexP_ | Prodicus: If the changes were to Rockbox, they aren't in the latest Rockbox Utility release. It is just that every time there is a source change, a new current build is made, which Rockbox Utility can install |
| 21:01:26 | AlexP_ | The release version of Rockbox (e.g. 3.10 at the moment) won't contain any changes made after it was released until we do a new release |
| 21:02:28 | Prodicus | I've forgotten- does the utility install latest snapshots by default rather than the latest release? |
| 21:02:52 | Prodicus | would seem a little odd |
| 21:04:04 | AlexP_ | Don't know |
| 21:04:29 | gevaerts | "by default"? No. It doesn't do anything by default |
| 21:06:36 | saratoga | i think the quick install thing does releases by default, but the other options prompt you |
| 21:14:50 | saratoga | wow 31 hours runtime for an ipod 6G is pretty good |
| 21:18:49 | saratoga | ok going to commit the clip keymap changes |
| 21:19:49 | saratoga | been on the tracker for months, on the forums for weeks, i've contacted nearly all of the AMS developers and confirmed that none are opposed, and the response was positive from non-developer users |
| 21:19:57 | saratoga | i think this counts as agreeement |
| 21:20:31 | gevaerts | go for it! |
| 21:20:39 | lebellium | cool! |
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| 21:22:35 | funman | Prodicus: right, you need a current build |
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| 21:37:00 | KiwiCam | Yay! Clip Keymap changes. |
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| 21:44:51 | jlbiasini | hey why did I get a email from the mailling list just after posting : The results of your email commands, with my email returned and split in two part : "- Unprocessed:" and "- Ignored:"? :/ |
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| 21:48:20 | jlbiasini | kugel: it seems that even bubbles doesn't handle remote correctly with PLA |
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| 21:49:16 | kugel | what do you mean? |
| 21:50:08 | jlbiasini | in the simulator bubbles doesn't handle remote button on HD300 or iaudio-m3 for example |
| 21:50:25 | jlbiasini | I didn't test others ones |
| 21:51:03 | jlbiasini | althrough it did have code to handle remote so it should work... |
| 21:52:41 | jlbiasini | *do |
| 21:53:06 | jlbiasini | but it might be a problem with iusimulator? |
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| 21:56:34 | AlexP_ | It doesn't make much sense for plugins like that to use the remote |
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| 21:57:02 | AlexP_ | You have to look at the main unit screen, so why would you be using the remote buttons instead of the buttons on the main player that you are looking at |
| 21:57:36 | CIA-44 | Commit 6b66b88 in rockbox by Michael Giacomelli: Commit FS #12288 - Sansa Clip+: "Home" in the main menu to WPS/Radio. |
| 21:58:06 | jlbiasini | AlexP_: Actually I just use it as a model to implement PLA remote on other plugin the used to have remote on their own controls method |
| 21:59:14 | jlbiasini | the fact is that it is implemented but doesn't work - or at least seems so. And so I don't know how to implement PLA remote on plugin when I have to convert them |
| 21:59:41 | jlbiasini | through this absolutly useless |
| 21:59:44 | jlbiasini | :D |
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| 22:00:12 | CIA-44 | 6b66b88 build result: All green |
| 22:00:34 | AlexP_ | jlbiasini: I'm afraid I don't understand your first sentance, would you rephrase? |
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| 22:03:21 | jlbiasini | Bubbles is THE plugin that use PLA in the more elaborate way. As i'm converting the more plugin as possible to have them using PLA, I often look into bubbles code to see how to do with special things (like remote). But here I'm stuck because even bubbles seems to fail on remote |
| 22:04:16 | jlbiasini | so it's not like I would like to play bubbles with remote... |
| 22:04:21 | jlbiasini | :D |
| 22:04:39 | CIA-44 | Commit 077e8b6 in rockbox by Frank Gevaerts: Clean up some variables. |
| 22:07:10 | CIA-44 | 077e8b6 build result: All green |
| 22:07:41 | kugel | saratoga: nice hash |
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| 23:06:42 | doh123 | good evening |
| 23:07:48 | doh123 | i've a problem with my clip+, rockbox 3.10 and win7 not willing to even give it a drive letter, anyone care to help please? -> http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,33491.0.html |
| 23:10:31 | saratoga | replied |
| 23:10:54 | doh123 | thanks just saw that |
| 23:10:57 | doh123 | problem is, i can't |
| 23:11:07 | doh123 | no drive letter: no way patching |
| 23:11:12 | doh123 | afaik anyway |
| 23:12:04 | saratoga | whats with the huge rush of people asking about USB today? its been like this for years |
| 23:12:45 | doh123 | well you should've written it into the manual or the rockboxutility or the homepage |
| 23:12:54 | saratoga | it is in the manual |
| 23:13:07 | saratoga | like i said above, you need to use the sandisk firmware in 3.10 |
| 23:13:17 | saratoga | (for usb) |
| 23:13:41 | doh123 | and how would i get the firmware onto the player now? |
| 23:13:58 | saratoga | reboot into the sandisk firmware, then you have USB |
| 23:14:36 | doh123 | how? |
| 23:14:50 | saratoga | http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclipplus/rockbox-buildch3.html#x5-280003.1.3 |
| 23:15:33 | doh123 | oh my... i love you. |
| 23:15:38 | doh123 | err thanks |
| 23:15:54 | * | AlexP_ wonders why we bother writing the manual sometimes |
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| 23:16:19 | doh123 | to have physical copies you can throw at people? |
| 23:16:27 | AlexP | That'd be nice :) |
| 23:16:37 | saratoga | i guess we could put some popup in rbutil that had notes for each player when people try to install the bootloader |
| 23:16:52 | saratoga | might be tricky to make that pull the info from somewhere we could easily update though |
| 23:18:08 | doh123 | so basically i could upgrade to a newer build now per rockboxutility and have usb support in rockboxmode? |
| 23:19:26 | saratoga | yeah |
| 23:20:22 | doh123 | archived build ok or was something groundbreaking added in the last 20min? |
| 23:20:51 | saratoga | i improved the keyamps about 45 minutes ago |
| 23:20:55 | saratoga | keymaps |
| 23:23:03 | saratoga | has anyone noticed that the GIT logs on the front page show the wrong day ? |
| 23:23:25 | saratoga | for instance my commit an hour ago has the correct time, but shows as having happened "yesterday" instead of "today" |
| 23:23:37 | saratoga | even though the commit a few minutes after it shows as "today" |
| 23:24:59 | AlexP | saratoga: git has two times, I think it is showing the local commit time, not the push time |
| 23:25:26 | saratoga | AlexP: yeah, but its still wrong anyway since theres commits before and after it that show up as "today" |
| 23:25:39 | AlexP | That doesn't prove anything though |
| 23:26:24 | AlexP | As they could have been committed then pushed today |
| 23:26:24 | AlexP | oh, I see what you mean |
| 23:26:24 | AlexP | Maybe it is sorting on one and showing another or something :) |
| 23:27:23 | doh123 | hm with the current build my clip+ doesn't want to play things |
| 23:27:47 | saratoga | what happens when you try? |
| 23:28:08 | doh123 | i select a song, it jumps to the "current song display" or whatever you call it and right back into the database |
| 23:28:24 | saratoga | and it worked before? |
| 23:28:34 | doh123 | the icon jumps from stopped>playing>stopped within a second |
| 23:28:42 | doh123 | yea |
| 23:29:03 | saratoga | you'll get that if its some unsupported format, but shouldn't happen for files it knows how to play |
| 23:29:08 | saratoga | i'll check the current build |
| 23:29:23 | doh123 | ignore me |
| 23:29:31 | doh123 | gotta plug in the damn card -.- |
| 23:29:58 | doh123 | i better log off before i halluzinate any more problems. thanks for your help and rock on |
| 23:30:05 | saratoga | FWIW if you're going to use the database, you might want to check the "autoupdate" option |
| 23:30:12 | saratoga | so that it doesn't show you files it can't access |
| 23:30:20 | doh123 | ooh whats that |
| 23:30:33 | saratoga | an option that updates the database automatically :) |
| 23:30:49 | doh123 | heh found and enabled it |
| 23:30:52 | doh123 | thanks |
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| 23:31:08 | saratoga | since most people don't use the database, i thinkt he defaults assume you won't be using it either |
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| 23:31:29 | doh123 | why don't many use it? |
| 23:31:40 | [Saint] | Resources. |
| 23:31:58 | saratoga | i don't think it uses much in the way of resources |
| 23:32:02 | AlexP | Don't like it, prefer to navigate by well set out folder structure |
| 23:32:12 | AlexP | Nothing to do with resources for me |
| 23:32:15 | [Saint] | Filebrowser is just as good for a sanely arranged directory structure. |
| 23:32:23 | saratoga | that and it doesn't really make sense to use a database on a player that has removable storage IMO |
| 23:32:58 | [Saint] | It dies auto update, or can, so removable storage isn't an issue IMO. |
| 23:33:05 | [Saint] | *does |
| 23:33:27 | [Saint] | I just prefer the filebrowser. |
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