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| 00:32:30 | Lope_s | I've used RB on my Sandisk Sansa Clip+ for about a year and love it. I've just installed the latest RB on my Sandisk Sansa Fuze V2 and I'm AWE STRUCK with how awesome it is :) |
| 00:32:49 | Lope_s | but how do I get USB mass storage working on RB firmware? |
| 00:33:03 | Lope_s | I looked in settings and couldn't find anything about USB. |
| 00:33:11 | [Saint] | Depends what you mean by "latest". |
| 00:33:20 | Lope_s | its plugged into the PC and now showing up |
| 00:33:37 | Lope_s | 3.10 |
| 00:33:47 | [Saint] | The release build still doesn't support USB. |
| 00:34:11 | Lope_s | oh.. the page seems to indicate that 3.10 supports USB on Fuze V2 and Clip+? |
| 00:34:31 | Lope_s | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS#AMSv2_issues_40Fuzev2_44_Clipv2_44_Clip_43_44_ClipZip_41: |
| 00:34:42 | Lope_s | "USB was enabled after the release of 3.10. Either upgrade to the current build to get USB, or reboot into the Sandisk firmware for USB transfers in 3.10." |
| 00:34:51 | [Saint] | You need a current build, and a git head bootloader. |
| 00:35:05 | [Saint] | USB was enabled *after*... |
| 00:35:06 | Lope_s | how do I load that? |
| 00:35:15 | Lope_s | i just went with 'complete install' (i see) |
| 00:35:41 | Lope_s | I must be on a release. how do I upgrade to a current build? |
| 00:36:35 | [Saint] | Current build is freely available from RBUtil, or the website. Bootloader you'll need to find elsewhere or compile yourself (neither officially supported). |
| 00:36:36 | Lope_s | I bought a refurbished fuze, the home button doesn't do anything. Is that normal or is my fuze defective? |
| 00:36:57 | Lope_s | so I can't install the git head bootloader with RButil? |
| 00:37:04 | [Saint] | No. |
| 00:37:32 | gevaerts | The bootloader isn't that important |
| 00:37:42 | Lope_s | so I don't need the git head bootloader? |
| 00:37:53 | Lope_s | I'm not good with compiling stuff. |
| 00:37:54 | [Saint] | It is if you want bootloader USB...but, yeah, good point. |
| 00:38:21 | gevaerts | The only difference it makes is that it will boot rockbox instead of the OF when plugging in |
| 00:38:22 | Lope_s | I just want to be able to copy stuff to the fuze2 while its in RB. |
| 00:38:46 | Lope_s | hmm |
| 00:38:56 | Lope_s | so is there a pre-compiled git head bootloader? |
| 00:39:20 | Lope_s | cos I'm probably gonna run the player plugged in permanently |
| 00:39:36 | Lope_s | I don't want to have to plug and unplug constantly. OF sucks. |
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| 00:40:17 | Lope_s | okay nevermind |
| 00:40:35 | [Saint] | I think you've misunderstood. If it will always be plugged in, always using Rockbox, the current build alone will be fine. |
| 00:40:36 | Lope_s | it looks like I don't need git head bootloader. I just shut down and plugged in USB cable. It went directly to RB. |
| 00:41:21 | Lope_s | I must have misunderstood then. Okay the default RB bootloader I have is fine. Now how do I install current build |
| 00:42:22 | jlbiasini | kugel: it's raining PLA! :D |
| 00:43:36 | Lope_s | I've got RB installed |
| 00:43:54 | Lope_s | if I ask RBUtil to install the current build is that okay, or do I need to uninstall RB first? |
| 00:44:04 | [Saint] | That's fine. |
| 00:44:09 | Lope_s | okay |
| 00:44:11 | Lope_s | thanks :) |
| 00:44:30 | Lope_s | excited!!! |
| 00:44:45 | Lope_s | also excited to have the current build on my Clip+ and have USB support. |
| 00:45:03 | Lope_s | are you a RB dev? |
| 00:45:41 | gevaerts | jlbiasini: I'm wondering why you're sending development-related mails to the user mailing list |
| 00:46:31 | jlbiasini | oups |
| 00:46:42 | Lope_s | OMG U GUYS ROCK SO HARD!!!!!!! |
| 00:46:45 | Lope_s | hahaha |
| 00:46:49 | Lope_s | this is amazing! |
| 00:46:50 | jlbiasini | I suppose I mix it :( |
| 00:47:08 | jlbiasini | thx for noticing |
| 00:47:15 | [Saint] | That's a great review Lope_s :) |
| 00:47:56 | jlbiasini | :D typical |
| 00:48:43 | Lope_s | rockbox makes me do this :D |
| 00:48:43 | Lope_s | haha |
| 00:49:02 | Lope_s | I seriously could not buy a MP3 player for like 10-15 years |
| 00:49:04 | Lope_s | they all sucked. |
| 00:49:47 | Lope_s | I heard about rockbox, loved the concept, but the available players with decent capacity were still bulky and sounded unreliable. |
| 00:50:17 | Lope_s | then sandisk made the clip+ with microSD support (and fairly decent OF), and there was RB support. I jumped on it. |
| 00:50:23 | Lope_s | stoked ever since. |
| 00:50:59 | Lope_s | one of the best things is no FAT32 mode (no ID3 tags) and all the audio tweaks, and the themeing is nice too. |
| 00:51:37 | Lope_s | the fuze interface is blowing my mind right now. best $32 I ever spent. Got a refurb fuze v2 2GB on amazon. Will add a 32GB card (will dbl check if it supports it first) |
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| 00:52:09 | [Saint] | It does. Rockbox does, the OF probably doesn't. |
| 00:53:25 | Lope_s | oh, I see the player does respond a little bit to the home button. but not much. |
| 00:53:40 | Lope_s | the home button used to function like a back button in menus. Now it seems to hardly do anything. |
| 00:53:46 | Lope_s | is that intentional? |
| 00:53:57 | saratoga | i htink the current bootloader release is up to date? |
| 00:54:05 | saratoga | shouldn't need to compile anything, nothing has changed as far as I know |
| 00:54:55 | [Saint] | saratoga: yeah, figured that out in community. Wasn't aware there was a new release. |
| 00:55:02 | saratoga | Lope_s: i changed HOme to go back to the WPS/Radio from the main menu an hour ago |
| 00:55:06 | [Saint] | Interesting there was one, actually. |
| 00:55:06 | saratoga | or two hours ago rather |
| 00:55:34 | Lope_s | don't worry about the bootloader comments. saint said something that made me think I need a non-default git boot loader in order to have RB run all the time, even when plugging in USB cable. But default RB bootloader is working perfect! |
| 00:55:40 | Lope_s | misunderstanding. |
| 00:55:56 | [Saint] | The misunderstanding proved mine. |
| 00:55:56 | Lope_s | saratoga: whats WPS? |
| 00:56:06 | saratoga | while playing screen |
| 00:56:16 | Lope_s | ah yes. good change! |
| 00:56:19 | Lope_s | very good. |
| 00:56:29 | saratoga | yes it was a common complaint |
| 00:56:32 | JdGordon | gevaerts: I've just push patch 8 to the lcd task which fixes mr500-sim, can you test on target please? |
| 00:56:49 | JdGordon | and thanks kugel for the obvious fix :) (not sarcasm there) |
| 00:56:59 | Lope_s | saratoga: it doesn't seem to work. |
| 00:57:10 | saratoga | i just tried and it works for me |
| 00:57:14 | JdGordon | KiwiCam: no, filenames are static so you couldnt use them with a count tag |
| 00:57:26 | Lope_s | I've got a mp3 playing. If i go into settings (for example) and press home, nothing happens. I've just loaded the current build a few mins ago |
| 00:57:30 | saratoga | we should really clean up the install directions in the manual |
| 00:57:40 | saratoga | its a huge amount of words right now, a lot of which could probably go into other sections |
| 00:57:55 | saratoga | Lope_s: the change only works from the main menu |
| 00:58:07 | saratoga | i didn't change it on other screens, since most of them have their own keymappings |
| 00:58:09 | Lope_s | oh, why not make it work from all menus? |
| 00:58:18 | Lope_s | cos it seems to do nothing in most menus |
| 00:58:28 | Lope_s | better that it does something rather than nothing? :-) |
| 00:58:36 | saratoga | i just tried it in settings and currently it takes you back to the main menu |
| 00:58:51 | saratoga | which i think makes more sense, since the main menu is really the closest thing we have to a "home" |
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| 00:59:00 | Lope_s | in settings, pressing it now, its not doing anything |
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| 00:59:25 | saratoga | are you running the current build? |
| 00:59:30 | saratoga | it definitely does something |
| 00:59:36 | Lope_s | I've got 077e8b6-120225 |
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| 01:00:16 | saratoga | no idea then |
| 01:00:53 | Lope_s | what are apps coded in on RB? C? |
| 01:00:59 | Lope_s | how do you get to doom? |
| 01:01:10 | saratoga | mostly c, 1 or 2 use lua though |
| 01:01:10 | Lope_s | oh, sorry, being a tool. plugins. |
| 01:01:14 | * | [Saint] suggests reading our fine manual. |
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| 01:01:54 | Lope_s | HAHAHAHAH boomshine!!! |
| 01:01:59 | Lope_s | this is too much. |
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| 01:03:34 | saratoga | does anyone know what keymap the time menu would use? it seems weird |
| 01:05:04 | Lope_s | you can actually play doom on this thing. |
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| 01:05:30 | Lope_s | its like as much fun as doom 15 years ago. |
| 01:05:37 | Lope_s | without strafing its a bit limited |
| 01:05:46 | Lope_s | but not much you can do with these buttons. |
| 01:06:17 | Lope_s | are there any nice buttons to hack? I read somewhere the connector under the player has line out. Any other juicy stuff? |
| 01:06:34 | saratoga | theres no connector on the clip+, only USB |
| 01:06:42 | Lope_s | I've got the fuze |
| 01:06:44 | Lope_s | also |
| 01:06:52 | Lope_s | I just got the fuze now. |
| 01:07:12 | saratoga | then yes, that has line out and maybe a serial port type thing as well |
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| 01:07:28 | Lope_s | any idea where to get a cable with all the pins? |
| 01:07:45 | [Saint] | SanDisk? |
| 01:07:59 | saratoga | sparkfun sells breakout boards I believe |
| 01:08:28 | [Saint] | The stock cable has all the pins, they're just not wired. |
| 01:08:28 | Lope_s | reheheheaaally |
| 01:08:48 | Lope_s | oh, i've found companies often leave out the pins also. |
| 01:09:04 | Lope_s | yeah just looked |
| 01:09:08 | Lope_s | its got a LOT of pins |
| 01:09:43 | Lope_s | unfortunately ebay doesn't even have cables that include USB and line out. |
| 01:09:44 | saratoga | http://www.podgizmo.com/p/100/sansabreakout-board |
| 01:10:48 | Lope_s | broken link. |
| 01:11:16 | Lope_s | wooooo |
| 01:11:18 | Lope_s | http://shop.kineteka.com/Products/100-sansabreakout.aspx |
| 01:11:24 | gevaerts | JdGordon: that does indeed fix the mr500 |
| 01:11:27 | [Saint] | The link is fine. |
| 01:11:35 | JdGordon | gevaerts: thanks |
| 01:12:17 | Lope_s | saint: oh, you're right. |
| 01:14:16 | [Saint] | Lope_s: you really don't want a big, ugly, fragile breakout board for this. |
| 01:14:41 | [Saint] | Butcher an existing cable, you really want strain relief for this. |
| 01:14:42 | Lope_s | hmm 2 video + pins, must be S-Video? |
| 01:14:47 | Lope_s | S video has luma and chroma. |
| 01:15:07 | Lope_s | saint: the problem is an existing cable doesn't have line AND power...? |
| 01:15:15 | Lope_s | I want both. |
| 01:16:14 | [Saint] | So add it? All you want is the connector, the cable is pretty much irrelevant. |
| 01:17:39 | Lope_s | i'm actually building my fuze into a fixed unit |
| 01:17:43 | Lope_s | so I can use that breakout |
| 01:18:00 | Lope_s | although I've got a cheap cable on the way that I bought on ebay |
| 01:18:15 | Lope_s | so I'll dremel it and see how easily I can solder the pins. |
| 01:18:38 | Lope_s | I've got a fine temp controlled iron etc. but they're pretty tightly spaced. |
| 01:19:12 | [Saint] | Even an iPod cable will do....you can usually get them for free from second hand stores. |
| 01:19:33 | Lope_s | does the fuze use an ipod cable? |
| 01:19:50 | Lope_s | oh of course, so it can work in iPod docks? |
| 01:20:00 | [Saint] | If.you're changing the pinout, iPod cable is fine. Just *don't* plug a stock iPod cable in and try power it. |
| 01:20:26 | Lope_s | hehe okay |
| 01:20:43 | [Saint] | You *will* kill the player that way, the iPod pinout is completely different, but the connection is exactly the same. |
| 01:21:31 | Lope_s | legendary, found nicer breakouts cheaper. http://www.ebay.com/sch/?_kw=ipod%20breakout&_clu=2&_fcid=185&_localstpos=&_stpos=&gbr=1 |
| 01:22:13 | Lope_s | weird that its *compltely* different but same connector |
| 01:22:20 | Lope_s | surely it must share USB, power and line? |
| 01:22:35 | Lope_s | sansa probably chose this connector so the fuze would work in iPod docks? |
| 01:22:48 | [Saint] | No. And it doesn't. |
| 01:23:00 | Lope_s | hehe, weird? |
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| 01:23:43 | [Saint] | No. Its not an "iPod" or "sansa" thing. Its just a standard connection. |
| 01:24:00 | [Saint] | Companies wire them as they wish. |
| 01:25:47 | Lope_s | thanks for all the great info :) |
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| 01:45:30 | KiwiCam | JdGordon: OK. Any chance the Count feature might be worth implementing anyway? |
| 01:46:47 | [Saint] | "worth implementing" != "will be implemented" != "time to implement" ;) |
| 01:48:06 | [Saint] | Mr Gordon is a busy man of late. |
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| 03:01:08 | KiwiCam | [Saint]: No pressure for that one. So, how do I use this %ss thing now? |
| 03:01:32 | [Saint] | Now? |
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| 03:04:34 | JdGordon | KiwiCam: add ", number" to the end of %ss() |
| 03:05:51 | [Saint] | Well...not literally the end, yeah |
| 03:05:55 | [Saint] | ? |
| 03:06:06 | [Saint] | Within the bounds of () no? |
| 03:06:39 | JdGordon | yes |
| 03:08:20 | KiwiCam | So, if I want the current value of %ss(0,1,%cS)? ie it' on the 54th second and I am expecting to see 5. |
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| 03:10:16 | GreyMoons | Hi. |
| 03:10:37 | GreyMoons | I tried installing rockbox on my clip+, everything seemed to be going fine.. unpluged it.. new ui works after it updated.. |
| 03:10:58 | GreyMoons | but now im getting failed to install device when I plug it in and its not appearing as a drive or anything under 'my computer' |
| 03:11:27 | GreyMoons | Running windows 7 x64.. |
| 03:12:25 | saratoga | GreyMoons: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS#AMSv2_issues_40Fuzev2_44_Clipv2_44_Clip_43_44_ClipZip_41: |
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| 03:14:01 | GreyMoons | Uh, So I need to upgrade it? |
| 03:14:08 | GreyMoons | How do I do that if I can't access it anymore?... |
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| 03:15:17 | [Saint] | We have dual-boot, you can still access it. |
| 03:15:28 | [Saint] | The manual explains this. |
| 03:15:29 | saratoga | how did you find out about rockbox anyway? |
| 03:16:23 | GreyMoons | Friend told me about it. |
| 03:17:03 | saratoga | and you already had a clip+? |
| 03:17:08 | saratoga | or did you buy one to try it |
| 03:17:38 | GreyMoons | I bought a clip+ based on his recommendation and then put rockbox on it after he told me to after I whined about how slow it was to transfer data to the sd card |
| 03:18:09 | saratoga | ah ok |
| 03:18:23 | GreyMoons | So I figured out the dual boot thing. |
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| 03:19:04 | GreyMoons | Now im wondering what I do with clipplus01.02.16.zip to install it? |
| 03:19:11 | KiwiCam | Ohhh %ss(o,1,%cS,number) Doh! |
| 03:19:37 | GreyMoons | Errr |
| 03:19:41 | GreyMoons | no thats the origional firmware |
| 03:19:47 | GreyMoons | rockbox-sansaclipplus.zip |
| 03:20:24 | saratoga | theres install directions in the manual, or you can just use rockbox utility |
| 03:20:58 | GreyMoons | Yea I just used the rockbox utility and my USB no longer works |
| 03:21:11 | GreyMoons | how do I get to install the latest build? |
| 03:21:20 | GreyMoons | just extract it to the folder and run it again? |
| 03:21:57 | [Saint] | KiwiCam: no, %ss(0,1,%cS,number) |
| 03:22:01 | [Saint] | ;) |
| 03:22:19 | GreyMoons | Nevermind... |
| 03:23:01 | * | GreyMoons trys 'archived build' |
| 03:24:10 | GreyMoons | Maybe im being whiny, but somehow I think 'totaly disabled usb interface' bugfix kinda needs to be in the 'stable' release. |
| 03:25:10 | KiwiCam | JdGordon: Thanks for that. I am not disappoint. If only I could remember what it is I wanted it for... ;) |
| 03:25:24 | [Saint] | So...we go back in time and re-release? |
| 03:25:28 | [Saint] | ;) |
| 03:26:02 | GreyMoons | What, you'v never ninjaed out a release in violation of what really happened? :) |
| 03:26:38 | GreyMoons | I consider myself lucky when they don't tell me "Yea update to version X" "im using verion X" "Yea we uploaded a new version X yesterday" "..." |
| 03:26:44 | saratoga | USB hasn't worked for 2 years on the clip+ |
| 03:26:50 | GreyMoons | ... What? damnit. |
| 03:26:54 | [Saint] | There's been point releases, sure. But until today it wasn't apparent this was broken. |
| 03:27:25 | GreyMoons | saratoga: .. Joy, Now its changed from working (And charging?) while pluged in to just showing a huge USB plug icon, but still no drive showing up. |
| 03:27:29 | [Saint] | It should boot to the OF for USB,current bootloader doesn't. |
| 03:27:34 | saratoga | we still only have a mostly working USB driver |
| 03:28:39 | GreyMoons | Yea now unpluging it freezes it up... |
| 03:29:20 | GreyMoons | Gasp it showed up as drives this time? |
| 03:29:41 | GreyMoons | And did'nt freeze up on unplug.. |
| 03:30:09 | GreyMoons | I used to hate it when things fix themselfs. Then I realised thats easyer then me having to fix it myself. |
| 03:31:07 | saratoga | yeah, like i said, the current driver isn't fully stable |
| 03:31:20 | saratoga | although it works quite well for most people |
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| 03:31:37 | GreyMoons | K. For the record im getting about 3.9~4MB/s on transfer to external SD card.. |
| 03:31:55 | saratoga | that sounds about right |
| 03:31:56 | GreyMoons | Not sure if thats any faster then the origional firmware.. oh well. |
| 03:32:12 | GreyMoons | Im sure my view transfered files to the SD much faster.. |
| 03:32:37 | GreyMoons | But then that craped out after 7 months into an unending reboot loop, and I was sick of it refreshing media on every reboot/unplug/card swap. |
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| 03:37:55 | GreyMoons | [Saint]: Overall pertty impressed with the firmware so far though. |
| 03:39:44 | [Saint] | Good to hear. |
| 03:40:58 | [Saint] | Welcome to Rockbox. |
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| 03:53:20 | GreyMoons | thx |
| 03:54:02 | GreyMoons | And thanks for not refreshing my media every time a fly farts in the general direction of my usb player. |
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| 04:00:29 | [Saint] | If you use the Database, and enable auto-refresh...it will still do so. |
| 04:00:58 | [Saint] | It just won't make you sit through it at boot ;) |
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| 04:06:37 | GreyMoons | [Saint]: hehe. |
| 04:13:12 | GreyMoons | Fair enough. |
| 04:15:56 | GreyMoons | omg |
| 04:16:01 | GreyMoons | force mono AND a signal strength indicator? |
| 04:16:05 | GreyMoons | you guys fucking rock. |
| 04:16:19 | GreyMoons | Moreso for using a real unit |
| 04:17:24 | GreyMoons | Now if I only had more then 5 stations here above 35DbuV |
| 04:17:35 | GreyMoons | err dBuV |
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| 04:52:36 | enthdegree | what does it take to get a rockbox cloak? |
| 04:55:32 | enthdegree | ykw im going to implement ln, e^n, atan, etc. in the calculator, this should be trivial |
| 04:59:50 | saratoga | you mean on IRC? |
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| 05:00:51 | enthdegree | Yes, the hostmask |
| 05:03:34 | saratoga | i think its given to people who get write access to the source code repository |
| 05:03:39 | saratoga | at least thats how i got it |
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| 05:04:24 | enthdegree | heavens, that must take a load of effort |
| 05:04:51 | [Saint] | Not really, no. |
| 05:05:28 | saratoga | hang out a lot and submit patches people like |
| 05:08:42 | [Saint] | Well...hang out a lot and submit patches people like and submit enough of them that people eventually get sick of committing for you ;) |
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| 08:52:35 | JdGordon | [Saint_]: MAAAAYTE! how can i bribe you to do cabbie landscae for touchpad, and one for the GN? :) |
| 08:56:43 | [Saint_] | Heh...despite fun in *-community, its not a bribery thing...its more a "round toit" thing. And yeah, I know I've got to get to it, I've been really slack. |
| 08:57:33 | JdGordon | if only we had a usable theme editor it wouldnt be such a bithc to get the viewports correct |
| 08:57:46 | JdGordon | I've started the touchpad one but i need to fiddle to get the button bar out of the way |
| 08:57:54 | JdGordon | (android utton bar overlaps the cabbie one) |
| 08:58:06 | [Saint_] | I need to re-do *all* the images, and I've been avoiding it. The ones in use at the moment are really just placeholders that didn't end up looking as shit as I thought. |
| 08:59:38 | [Saint_] | Re: viewports, even with the theme editor my preferred method was/is to get sizing and placement right in plain old MS Paint (or similar). |
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| 09:01:34 | JdGordon | and apparently the lcd changes patch works on adnroid also which is nice |
| 09:01:42 | JdGordon | I think I'll push that pretty soon |
| 09:01:54 | JdGordon | then we can hopefully get Zagor looking into scaling again :) |
| 09:02:02 | [Saint_] | Oh nice. |
| 09:03:27 | JdGordon | if we get scaling then we really only need 2 or 3 different cabbie versions |
| 09:03:40 | JdGordon | (well for RaaA anyway) |
| 09:04:24 | * | [Saint_] nods. |
| 09:04:37 | JdGordon | portaight, landscape, low dpi portaight is probably all |
| 09:05:38 | [Saint_] | I'm wondering if I can use negative viewport x,y to pin objects to the corners of a viewport? |
| 09:07:10 | JdGordon | yes |
| 09:07:44 | [Saint_] | I'm thinking the answer is probably no. But with such a thing, and viewports that scale automagically you could always frame ui items nicely. |
| 09:07:54 | [Saint_] | Oh, yes? Hmmm. |
| 09:08:09 | JdGordon | pretty sure thats been there since the begining of time! |
| 09:08:45 | JdGordon | yep, x,y,w,h all take negative numbers |
| 09:09:02 | [Saint_] | I knew you could do negative values, but the viewport dimensions would need to be known beforehand to pin an item to a corner, no? |
| 09:09:34 | [Saint_] | That's the part that makes the idea "interesting". |
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| 09:11:57 | JdGordon | sure, but whats hard aboiut that? |
| 09:12:36 | JdGordon | hmm... umm |
| 09:12:39 | [Saint_] | If the viewport is dynamically scaled, how can you possibly hard-code the values you'd need? |
| 09:13:12 | [Saint_] | Its a silly idea, don't put too much thought into it :) |
| 09:13:25 | JdGordon | depdns what you want to do |
| 09:13:52 | JdGordon | but yeah, if you know your viewport is 100px then -100,y,-,height will always stick it on the right |
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| 09:14:28 | JdGordon | does te alignmnet tags work with viewports? |
| 09:14:38 | JdGordon | probably not |
| 09:14:46 | [Saint_] | Nup. |
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| 09:24:57 | JdGordon | the other annoying issue with RaaA is the different base folder name in the zips |
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| 10:23:06 | KiwiCam | JdGordon: How long to I have to wait until the %ss comes through on the current build? I note that %ss (not using the ,number) doesn't pick up the values %pb %bs tags. I've tried %cS, %cY, %bv and they work. |
| 10:24:26 | KiwiCam | Also. Guys. How do I find the Sleep timer menu in the Current build? It was under Settings/Time and Date, but I'll be darned if I can find it. |
| 10:24:32 | [Saint] | Wait...what? If it was committed over an hour or so ago, which it was, its built. |
| 10:25:08 | KiwiCam | What about the Sim? |
| 10:25:18 | [Saint] | Same. |
| 10:25:38 | KiwiCam | I'll try it again... |
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| 10:31:27 | KiwiCam | V 9c21258-120220 - That's the lastest isn't it? |
| 10:33:21 | [Saint] | I'm on my phone, check against the commit list. |
| 10:35:37 | KiwiCam | It's me. I'm not grabbing the latest build. Is this the correct link? rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator-3.9/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator-3.9/ |
| 10:37:08 | KiwiCam | http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml << Found it. |
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| 10:39:06 | Szatan | Hello |
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| 10:40:08 | Szatan | I have Fuze+ and my system don't read a SD card via my Fuze+. On memory card reader works. |
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| 10:54:06 | KiwiCam | [Saint_]: Is that here? http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi I'm lost. I've tried both the Sim build and this one http://build.rockbox.org/ Both have the same reference 077e8b6 but they're not working for me, as in the %ss Am I still looking in the wrong place? |
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| 11:05:06 | lorenzo92 | kugel: how is my fm radio patch in general? I mean, is it quite ready to merge? |
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| 11:09:04 | lorenzo92 | I would say, the only thing to check is the IRQ handler in the module: is it really needed? Can we set it up into rockbox directly (yes, right?)? |
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| 11:25:33 | jdgord | kiwicam: its in the current build already |
| 11:27:02 | KiwiCam | jdgord: Then I can't be grabbing the correct download link. |
| 11:27:32 | jdgord | If specific tags don't work then that's a different issue |
| 11:27:38 | jdgord | U said some work though? |
| 11:28:16 | jdgord | And what? If u want it as a number you have to add the number param |
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| 11:38:45 | [Saint_] | Wait....120220 wasn't a hint? |
| 11:38:56 | [Saint_] | Nooooo....no no no. |
| 11:39:08 | [Saint_] | That's pretty damn far from "latest". |
| 11:39:49 | [Saint_] | Year month day *is* backwards for us kiwis, but, yeah...that's ages old. |
| 11:40:00 | [Saint_] | No wonder its not working. |
| 11:40:35 | KiwiCam | [Saint_]: As I said. I must be looking in the wrong place. Where is the daily build area? |
| 11:40:50 | KiwiCam | I did ask. |
| 11:41:40 | KiwiCam | Isn't this it? http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml |
| 11:41:44 | [Saint_] | You also said you found it... |
| 11:42:29 | [Saint_] | If you contradict yourself, I can't guess what one you meant to be valid still :) |
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| 11:45:13 | KiwiCam | I got the same file from two locations. Both have the same 077e86b6 reference and of course the 120220. I don't know where the correct download link is. |
| 11:45:31 | [Saint_] | If the "daily" sim is given you anything other than ******25 or *********26, something is broken. |
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| 11:46:18 | KiwiCam | Then the daily build link is down too. |
| 11:47:13 | KiwiCam | Anyway :) Time for a break. I'll try again tomorrow. Good night all. |
| 11:47:24 | [Saint_] | I'm not sure if we do current sim builds...don't see why not. |
| 11:48:02 | [Saint_] | Daily == built once daily, current == per commit/commit-streak |
| 11:49:52 | gevaerts | [Saint_]: which sim builds would we do? |
| 11:50:11 | kugel | [Saint_]: why do you need to redo *all* images? |
| 11:50:36 | kugel | are the ones in svn (in wps/cabbiev2/sources) not fine enough? |
| 11:51:11 | [Saint_] | kugel: misunderstanding, "redo from source", not "redo completely" |
| 11:51:35 | kugel | ah ok :) |
| 11:54:00 | [Saint_] | gevaerts: seems I was mistaken. And KiwiCam's wording didn't help. More than once I managed to parse he was getting sim builds from the daily page. |
| 11:54:18 | KiwiCam | Still here. So, what time tomorrow, NZ time, would the next daily build be ready? |
| 11:54:41 | [Saint_] | When they're ready, but, there wont be a sim build. |
| 11:55:10 | gevaerts | The only sim builds I'm aware of are rasher's |
| 11:55:15 | KiwiCam | I'm not familiar with these terms Guys. :( |
| 11:55:17 | [Saint_] | Sim builds are provided by rasher, because he's awesome. |
| 11:55:26 | [Saint_] | Nit by the build system. |
| 11:55:30 | [Saint_] | *not too |
| 11:55:51 | KiwiCam | Rasher = Awesome |
| 11:56:36 | KiwiCam | I wish I could use the Clip Sim on my Android. For making themes while I'm working. |
| 11:57:47 | [Saint_] | rasher's builds *should* be more current than they are, but his build system has been having issues lately. The android builds are delayed by approximately the same amount. |
| 11:58:10 | [Saint_] | When I say "should" it's really more "would be nice if" |
| 11:58:28 | [Saint_] | As it's a thing he's doing out of awesomeness. |
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| 13:52:35 | JdGordon | does anyone have some of the more exotic targets? things without colour screens (including rmeotes?) |
| 13:52:55 | gevaerts | I have a h120 with remote somewhere |
| 13:53:19 | JdGordon | can you give it a test when you find time please? |
| 13:53:37 | gevaerts | Just run some stuff with your lcd patch? |
| 13:53:54 | JdGordon | pretty much it will either work or it wont |
| 13:54:01 | JdGordon | so just turning it on shold be enough of a test |
| 13:54:17 | * | gevaerts nods |
| 13:54:42 | gevaerts | Yes, you're probably at such a low level that details don't matter much |
| 13:57:02 | JdGordon | yeah, pretty much |
| 13:57:29 | JdGordon | I would like to get this in before the freeze, and going by the testing thats happeniend I don't tihnk that is unliekly |
| 13:57:44 | JdGordon | unless we decide its too big to happen this close to freeze (which would be annoying but whatever) |
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| 14:02:43 | gevaerts | Well, the way I read it the freeze period has only been proposed, not announced :) |
| 14:04:29 | JdGordon | sure, but in the past people have complained about any changes happening close to the freeze once its been proposed |
| 14:04:54 | JdGordon | which basically means we should just tag today as the release branch and move on ?:p |
| 14:05:19 | n1s | IMO it's annoying when people know the freeze date for a long time and still wait till the last few days befor to do big changes |
| 14:06:08 | n1s | now the freeze date was suggested today so it's not like you are doing that |
| 14:06:33 | gevaerts | JdGordon: h120+LCD remote seems to work fine |
| 14:06:56 | * | gevaerts agrees |
| 14:07:39 | gevaerts | I also think the reason for a freeze is to allow for changes up to the time of the freeze. If we'd have an unofficial freeze before the freeze, we could branch instead of freezing at that time |
| 14:08:27 | gevaerts | That's not to say I wouldn't have doubts about something buflib-sized two hours before the freeze :) |
| 14:09:22 | gevaerts | But if I understand these lcd changes correctly, I don't see them having hidden hard to spot bugs, so I don't see a problem |
| 14:12:38 | AlexP | I have no objection to things going in up to the freeze, as that is what the freeze is |
| 14:13:56 | JdGordon | cool, so i'll give it another day or two for more testing and feedback |
| 14:14:22 | JdGordon | then we beg someone to figure out how to best do dynamic sizing/scaling :) |
| 14:14:34 | JdGordon | maybe 3.12 can be 4.0 and a real RaaAAAA release |
| 14:37:05 | amiconn | Bagder/ Zagor: What happened to the "Code changes" order on the front page? |
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| 14:45:07 | MrFrost | hey guys |
| 14:45:30 | MrFrost | seems like web client don't work |
| 14:45:39 | MrFrost | for irc |
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| 14:48:32 | gevaerts | hm, looks like ipv6 connectivity issues again |
| 14:48:45 | gevaerts | Bagder: does ipv6 work today on the server? |
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| 15:55:16 | fml | Hello. I'm have problems with uploading a patch to gerrit. When I do "git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master" I get an error message stating that the email in the commit does not match the mail address registered on gerrit. How do I fix that? I tried git −−amend, but it did not help. |
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| 15:57:15 | gevaerts | fml: did you set your name and email up as described in http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingGit#Preparing_to_make_changes ? |
| 15:59:12 | fml | gevaerts: yes, I set all the params as described in wiki. The file ~/.gitconfig contains the correct values. |
| 15:59:18 | bluebrother | fml: if the commit contains the wrong author you need to use git −−amend −−reset-author, otherwise the author is not changed during amending |
| 15:59:48 | CIA-44 | Commit a532b60 in rockbox by Dominik Riebeling: (Author: Jean-Louis Biasini) Rockbox Utility: update french translation |
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| 16:00:53 | fml | bluebrother: just did that, but it didn't help |
| 16:01:51 | bluebrother | maybe there's a case issue? Had that myself, gerrit is case sensitive on emails |
| 16:02:26 | CIA-44 | a532b60 build result: All green |
| 16:04:42 | bluebrother | gevaerts: I want to push a new Rockbox Utility tonight. What should we do about the mkamsboot issue? |
| 16:07:57 | gevaerts | bluebrother: I suspect it's a simple change, but I'm not 100% sure if there are interdependencies between the bootloader file on the server and the code in mkamsboot... |
| 16:08:22 | gevaerts | I think it would be best to revert that change, but someone who knows mkamsboot should do that |
| 16:08:56 | bluebrother | if there is a dependency (which, as far as I can see from the code is) there should be a better solution. |
| 16:09:27 | gevaerts | kugel, funman: can you comment on this? |
| 16:09:31 | bluebrother | interestingly the RockboxUtility wiki page even advertises the "now boots Rockbox on USB" as change ... |
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| 17:11:57 | CIA-44 | Commit ee1f54c in rockbox by Dominik Riebeling: Append "64bit" only on 64bit binary. |
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| 18:42:07 | AlexP | bluebrother: Your point in your email was a good one, this sort of thing shouldn't be in rbutil. We shouldn't need a new rbutil release to change bootloader behaviour, nor should how it works depend on what version of rbutil you are using. My preference would be to delay the release if it is possible to make rbutil get the info/code (a binary blob maybe, along with md5sum or similar) from the server. If that is not doable in the timeframe then I'd favour |
| 18:42:07 | AlexP | reverting this change in the rbutil release. |
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| 19:41:57 | shanttu | Hi. Need help troubleshooting why reading sd card doesn't work with Sansa Clip +. Rockbox 3.10. Freshly installed bootloader and formated (fat32) sd card A-Data 8gb. |
| 19:42:12 | shanttu | Boot stucks to logo-screen. |
| 19:42:20 | shanttu | After already started system when browsing to root-directory it loads forever. |
| 19:42:28 | shanttu | Tried also with another sd card with same results. |
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| 19:45:55 | bluebrother | AlexP: problem is that I'd really like to get the SAPI related fix out −− it's been broken for almost 2 years now :( |
| 19:46:28 | bluebrother | OTOH I can wait with a release. Though I fear that fixing things properly will take a while because of people being busy. |
| 19:46:35 | bluebrother | at least I'd expect that. |
| 19:48:43 | bluebrother | we got customizable menus? :o |
| 19:49:44 | jlbiasini | I'm working on having PLA for vu_meter. The buttons are really easy to configure, but the code also define the name of each key for the help screen (example: #define LABEL_QUIT "Back" ) is there anyway I could have the precompiler retreiving such imformation from the main pluginlib_action.c file? |
| 19:50:18 | bluebrother | jlbiasini: not from a c file. |
| 19:51:22 | jlbiasini | then from a latex one pehraps? it could retrieve it from the manual? |
| 19:52:16 | bluebrother | urgh |
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| 19:52:25 | jlbiasini | that would not make the implementation on new target eaasier, if we have to write the manual before the code :D |
| 19:52:38 | bluebrother | if I'd rather have the manual retrieve strings from the sources, not th eother way round |
| 19:52:49 | MrFrost | hey lorenzo) |
| 19:52:55 | jlbiasini | of course! |
| 19:53:01 | lorenzo92 | MrFrost: hi! ;) |
| 19:53:02 | MrFrost | check my updated theme) |
| 19:53:09 | MrFrost | now with radio! |
| 19:53:12 | lorenzo92 | oh! nice!! |
| 19:53:20 | bluebrother | it would break things a lot if someone changes a string in the manual without being aware that it affects Rockbox, i.e. the main thing |
| 19:53:44 | jlbiasini | Yeah it was just a joke! |
| 19:54:15 | MrFrost | thanks for uploading test build to abi |
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| 19:55:08 | * | bluebrother would be careful with this kind of jokes −− he's seen people doing all kind of stupid things "integrating" code with something else |
| 19:55:34 | jlbiasini | I guess I could move all those label define in the pla code itself |
| 19:55:40 | kugel | lorenzo92: I haven't actually tried the FM radio patch yet. no time |
| 19:55:57 | lorenzo92 | kugel: okay, no problem :) |
| 19:56:01 | * | jlbiasini it might became TOO funny :D |
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| 19:56:19 | jlbiasini | oups |
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| 19:57:11 | lorenzo92 | MrFrost: uhm I just updated your theme to the device but doesn't show the fm ui! |
| 19:57:18 | MrFrost | kugel: you are working on rockbox 3.11? |
| 19:57:45 | kugel | what do you mean? |
| 19:57:57 | MrFrost | lorenzo: forgot to mention that radio requires 21-adobe-helvetica |
| 19:57:58 | kugel | I'm working on rockbox in general |
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| 19:58:26 | MrFrost | i thought that 3.11 will be avaible soon |
| 19:58:36 | lorenzo92 | MrFrost: I have it! |
| 19:58:37 | MrFrost | and you're working hard on it |
| 19:58:49 | MrFrost | hm |
| 19:58:54 | kugel | we all do |
| 19:59:06 | bertrik | MrFrost, yes, we even have a gmail release calendar IIRC |
| 19:59:16 | lorenzo92 | MrFrost: idea... |
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| 20:00:14 | lorenzo92 | MrFrost: okay no worry, I was simply wrong: forgot to reload theme ^^ |
| 20:00:20 | MrFrost | lorenzo: hm no idea yet |
| 20:00:45 | lorenzo92 | yeah read before, solved ;) |
| 20:00:45 | MrFrost | so now it's ok? |
| 20:00:48 | lorenzo92 | yes yes |
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| 20:01:28 | lorenzo92 | great, I like it, but now better to stay in the development topic :) |
| 20:02:19 | lorenzo92 | MrFrost: top rated, anyway :D |
| 20:02:28 | MrFrost | thanks =) |
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| 20:03:32 | fml | JdGordon: Hey! Please look at and take care of FS #12599 and FS #12600 |
| 20:03:33 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12599 Manual: Describe how to restore the default main menu (patches, new) |
| 20:03:33 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12600 Rename the setting variable telling whether the main menu has been customized (patches, new) |
| 20:04:44 | jlbiasini | bluebrother: can I assume that if I convert the plugin into PLA it would get automatic keymaps and manual documentation about it. And therefore no longer needs help menu in the plugin that reminds keymaps? |
| 20:04:59 | fml | If I have committed a change to my local git repository and now try to upload it to gerrit, what email address is compared against the one registered on gerrit? I.e. where is the local user id stored? In the commit? Or in the git config? |
| 20:06:24 | * | jlbiasini would will leave vu_meter in peace for the moment |
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| 20:07:30 | kugel | fml: you can add emails to your gerrit account |
| 20:08:32 | fml | kugel: I did. I also think to have configured git so that it uses (or knows) the same mail address. But I have problems uploading to gerrit. |
| 20:09:26 | fml | When uploading, I get an error message where another mail address occurs (the one I don't have; it has my linux user it as the front part) |
| 20:09:57 | n1s | what did you set in your git config? |
| 20:10:19 | bluebrother | fml: sounds like you need to change the mail address in your git clone |
| 20:10:21 | n1s | the commit probably uses the adress it had at the moment the commit was made |
| 20:10:34 | bluebrother | try git config -l and look for the offending mail address :) |
| 20:10:36 | lorenzo92 | kugel: later I will resync the patch against last version (because I've seen some power management rewrite about radio) and try to put it onto gerrit :) |
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| 20:11:14 | fml | bluebrother: I already did "git amend reset-author" −− with no positive effect |
| 20:11:32 | fml | How can I see what mail address is "stored" in the commit? |
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| 20:12:00 | bluebrother | I assume you used git commit −−amend −−reset-author? ;-) |
| 20:12:47 | fml | n1s: I configured git as described in UsingGit. My file ~/.gitconfig contains correct user name and mail address |
| 20:13:07 | bluebrother | try git show −−pretty=fuller |
| 20:13:14 | fml | bluebrother: yes, I did that, have typed out of my head |
| 20:13:17 | bluebrother | that shows both committer and author mail address |
| 20:13:38 | n1s | fml: does git config -l reflect that? and was it always set this way? |
| 20:14:44 | fml | n1s: I'm on a different system now, so can't look. But IIRC, I configure git first, before making any changes, so the values must have been there at the time of commit |
| 20:15:41 | fml | Anyway, I uploaded the two changes I wanted to upload to gerrit to FS (as FS #12599 and FS #12600) |
| 20:15:42 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12599 Manual: Describe how to restore the default main menu (patches, new) |
| 20:15:42 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12600 Rename the setting variable telling whether the main menu has been customized (patches, new) |
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| 20:35:06 | KiwiCam | Morning Folks. |
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| 20:39:53 | jlbiasini | good evening! :D |
| 20:46:55 | KiwiCam | JdGordon: The current Build pages is now showing ee1f54c for the clip physical. Your changes are working on that. Thanks. Except I'm still not getting any value displaying for %pb and %bs. %ss(0.2,%cS) with and without the ",number" and also %cM & %bv work. As for the Sim build, I'll just keep an eye on the until it updates. |
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| 21:07:32 | shanttu | Could I have help on troubleshooting reading SDcard on Sansa Clip +? |
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| 23:35:41 | CIA-44 | Commit 9f48f5f in rockbox by Jonathan Gordon: root menu: Use - to reset the root menu order from a config |
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| 23:38:06 | CIA-44 | 9f48f5f build result: All green |
| 23:38:52 | lebellium | JdGordon: is there any way with the latest tags you introduced to get the vertical scrolling bar in SBS a different color as the text ? |
| 23:39:43 | lebellium | I mean if the text in SBS is black, the scrolling bar is necessarily black atm |
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