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#rockbox log for 2012-02-28

00:03:50CIA-44Commit 15c69b8 in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: mkximxboot/fuze+: add power button delay to power on
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00:06:16CIA-4415c69b8 build result: All green
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01:45:12CIA-44Commit b37e6bc in rockbox by Jonathan Gordon: lcd drivers: Convert lcd_[remote_]framebuffer to a pointer
01:48:03CIA-44b37e6bc build result: 16 errors, 2 warnings (Jonathan Gordon committed)
01:51:28CIA-44Commit c0a2c3f in rockbox by Jonathan Gordon: Fix build errors and warnings
01:54:15CIA-44c0a2c3f build result: 0 errors, 2 warnings (Jonathan Gordon committed)
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02:07:45astlCan anyone tell me whats wrong with my code? It doesnt work when I put in a variable for one of the dimensions of an array inside a loop. thanks.
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02:11:30n17ikhfeature request: I have a whole bunch of rockboxed players I don't use anymore and I think it'd be neat to have them be external LCDs for various purposes.
02:12:04n17ikhI wonder if something like that is plausible.. set up an interface where you throw bitmaps at the player and they get dumped onto the display
02:12:17n17ikh(over USB)
02:12:40JdGordonastl: first of all.. fix the indenting and line breaking...
02:26:19astlJdGordon fixed it. please take a look
02:26:59JdGordonwhere the heck did you learn that style?
02:27:48astlJdGordon this is shortened code for drawing a smiley face
02:28:00astljust trying to see if i can draw anythin right now
02:28:24JdGordonno, the indenting style.. its just wrong on so many levels!
02:32:32JdGordonthat code is unreadable... but no, i dont see anything obviously wrong
02:32:50JdGordonconvention says use i,j,k for indexing
02:32:53JdGordonnot i1,i2,i3
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03:59:36funmangevaerts: yes usb is stable
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04:07:45funmanthe same 'problem' happened for amsv1 already btw
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04:55:28astlc beginner question pls. i want to use this function that draws a bitmap on a display but dont know how. in my program, what do i type for the source parameter of this function? lcd_bitmap(const fb_data *src, int x, int y, int width, int height)
04:55:53astli have a file called my_bitmap in the same folder as my .c file. i made it with the bitmap command from the linux ubuntu command line
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05:01:07*Mir looks at [Saint] and remembers a Golden Quote from the site :3
05:05:12astl is fb_data a preprocessor thing? how can i find out what an fb_data is? I have the bash shell, i did grep -r 'fb_data' . but it returned too many results. i did grep -r '#define fb_data' but it returned no results
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05:32:26[Saint] Mir: ?
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05:39:47Mir[Saint]: :)
05:40:06Mirjust was poking around the site and the wiki and i ran across your nick
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05:41:29[Saint]Mir: Yes, I gathered. But, what in particular are you referring to?
05:41:46*[Saint] is confuzzled
05:43:28Mirthe hard drive reference quote
05:43:36*Mir also waves
05:43:57[Saint]Ah, yes. That was particularly amusing. :)
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10:17:00wodz\o/ I managed to boot rockbox on rk27xx using bootloader. I found it slightly weird that we don't call sd_enable() before trying to init sd subsystem.
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10:23:22CIA-44Commit 13f98df in rockbox by Marcin Bukat: rk27xx: Make sure SD module clock is not gated
10:26:49CIA-4413f98df build result: All green
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11:02:23JdGordonpamaury: hey, was FS #11599 merged
11:02:24fs-bluebot Make simulator able to emulate storage with a file instead of using OS fs functions (patches, new)
11:02:33JdGordonfor some reason i thought that is currently doable?
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11:05:33wodzJdGordon: this patch was never fully functional
11:06:17wodzJdGordon: our FAT code didn't like it for not apparent reason
11:07:52JdGordonoh ok
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11:09:21wodzJdGordon: I wanted to look at this once but mearging patch to reacent codebase was too much time
11:10:33JdGordonyeah, thats made me stop work on probbaly half a dozen branches i had going on the old git-svn :/
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11:15:57TorneJdGordon: do you mean the effort of moving them to the new repo?
11:16:02Tornebecause that's entirely trivial :p
11:16:09Tornei worked out how to do it a while ago :p
11:16:47*Torne looks to see if he still has the graft around
11:17:34JdGordonno, more that it means merging the branches up to then master and then hopeing it was all in sync (which most of it isnt)... usual hassle
11:18:02Torneit's not that hard, surely
11:18:23Tornegit rebase −−onto will do the work for you :)
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11:37:55JdGordonwoo! my skin layering patch applies pretty much cleanly to current git :)
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11:43:39JdGordonany suggestions for the wps tag which tells the rendered to draw the current viewport on the background layer?
11:43:43JdGordonI'm using %VL currently
11:44:28gevaertsIs VB taken?
11:45:48JdGordonno, I've got carlton in my fridge.....
11:45:53JdGordonoh.. not beer :p
11:45:58JdGordonno, VB is free
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13:04:33CIA-44Commit 2c71aa9 in rockbox by Jonathan Gordon: lcd/skin_engine: Add the ability to draw onto the backdrop layer
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13:09:02wodzwow, it was fast to utilize new ability comming form array->ptr switch :-)
13:09:08CIA-442c71aa9 build result: 128 errors, 0 warnings (Jonathan Gordon committed)
13:09:16wodzand nice score also
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13:11:19*JdGordon looks forward to seeing what people come up with for that
13:13:36gevaertsIt should make some things a lot easier
13:13:44*gevaerts has some plans :)
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13:16:46CIA-44Commit 0807fe8 in rockbox by Jonathan Gordon: Fix build errors
13:19:39CIA-440807fe8 build result: All green
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13:27:54mortaliswodz: could you share your code for bootloader?
13:30:48wodzmortalis: 1 sec
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13:34:09kugelJdGordon: will the backdrop buffer be cleared somehow?
13:34:26kugeli.e. remove images drawn on it and reshow the backrop only?
13:35:30JdGordondon't get this confused with backdrops
13:36:01JdGordonwhat this does is, if the skin uses it, it gives the skin a second layer to draw in, all normal viewport rules apply
13:36:18JdGordonso it will be fully cleared when the screen is reset or a full redraw happens
13:38:36kugelah, so %VB will alloc a seperate buffer?
13:39:17kugelprobably nice for AA
13:39:31wodzmortalis: this version of bootloader boots rockbox.rkw from .rockbox folder on uSD
13:39:49JdGordonkugel: not really, you either use the backdrop from an image, or from this second buffer
13:39:57JdGordoneither way the skin engine will alloc a second buffer
13:40:31kugeloh, it works _instead_ of a backdrop?
13:40:58wodzmortalis: So basically you should build bootloader.bin, pack it int RKW, put this as BASE.RKW in system partition, then build rockbox, repack it into RKW and place as rockbox.rkw in .rockbox dir on uSD
13:41:16kugelwhat I do both %X and %VB?
13:41:27JdGordon%X is ignored
13:41:35*JdGordon even wrote that in the commit message
13:42:05kugelno you didn't
13:42:48JdGordon If you want to draw an image onto the backdrop framebuffer use %x(backdrop filename) instead of %X() inside a viewport with %VB.
13:43:06wodzmortalis: if this will work you may try to put original BASE.RKW renamed to rockbox.rkw and try if this works.
13:43:21kugelthat doesnt tell what happens if you use both tags
13:46:25wodzmortalis: ah, and you need rb compiled with my latest commit otherwise it will hang on SD access
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13:59:29wodzmortalis: any success?
14:00:12mortaliswodz: 1 min
14:04:57mortaliswodz: blackscreen, nothing happens
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14:08:59wodzmortalis: interesting - bootloader should display logo at least
14:10:28wodzmortalis: could you look at bootloader binary to see if it is correctly linked? It should have load addres 0x60000000 and run address 0x60700000
14:14:32CIA-44Commit 34031cb in rockbox by Jonathan Gordon: skin_engine: Clean up %x() handling - beware theme issues
14:14:35CIA-44Commit 1c1e1c0 in rockbox by Jonathan Gordon: skin_engine: ease the restrictions on %x/%xl
14:16:06mortaliswodz: do you mean rkw header?
14:16:20wodzmortalis: no bootloader.elf
14:17:38CIA-441c1e1c0 build result: 0 errors, 21 warnings (Jonathan Gordon committed)
14:19:09CIA-44Commit d96a32d in rockbox by Jonathan Gordon: fix warning
14:21:01JdGordonZagor: the delta table seems to have an extra column?
14:21:10funmangevaerts: USB is stable on amsv2, else i would not have enabled it in mkamsboot
14:21:36ZagorJdGordon: indeed. odd...
14:21:45funmanthere's still work to do though, i'm waiting for a nano2g before touching usb again to be sure it keeps stable
14:22:12wodzZagor: I reported extra column in delta table a few days ago (when unwarminder was commited)
14:22:27Zagorwodz: ok, I missed that
14:22:30funmanso to fix the issue we only need to wait for 3.11 and maybe a couple of manual precisions
14:22:38CIA-44d96a32d build result: All green
14:23:30gevaertsfunman: people still report instabilities
14:23:48funmanby design booting decision belongs in mkamsboot to separate simple & sensible stuff from moving code (rockbox bootloader)
14:24:08funmangevaerts: ah? i read rockbox and abi forums yesterday i didn't notice it
14:26:58wodzmortalis: could you run arm-elf-eabi -d bootloader.elf and paste first two screens of output?
14:27:55gevaertsfunman: the last ones I find are from January. Maybe things got more stable since then...
14:28:21wodzmortalis: your output misses .reloc section which is crucial for bootloader to work at all
14:28:44funmanin any case i'm willing to work on it as soon as i get access to nano2g (or someone testing my patches remotely)
14:29:33funman[saint] sent me one or two of them but they didn't reach me yet, and him not reading logs make it a bit difficult to know where they are
14:30:09wodzmortalis: stupid me. You also need new crt0.S
14:32:37wodzfunman: I am at home for a few days and I can test something on nano2g (mornings are usually free)
14:36:27funmanwodz: first question is obvious, does USB work with master? :)
14:36:42funmanin both high speed and full speed ?
14:37:19wodzfunman: it works but on my T510 I get tons of usb resets
14:37:45wodzI didn't test full speed though
14:38:08funmanah i don't remember seeing usb resets
14:38:43funmandoes reverting 7b28711f6cf53 change the behaviour?
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14:40:23wodzfunman: I can try, but I would prefer to do test tomorrow morning
14:41:20funmani'm usually here in (UTC-5) morning
14:43:03CIA-44Commit 63c281b in www by Björn Stenberg: Removed debug output that broke the table.
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14:49:14wodzfunman: hmm I was referring to my local time morning (UTC+1) - I'll try to reserve some time tomorrow. Ping me or leave me in logs what to test.
14:50:08funmanfirst let's make sure it works even with bad performance
14:52:38mortaliswodz: the same result with crt0.s
14:58:19wodzmortalis: oh, could you paste begining of the objdump -d output?
15:03:50wodzmortalis: the interesting thing is that your bootloader seems to MUCH smaller then mine
15:04:49wodzmine occupies 0x71b64 bytes in memory while yours 0x4a0a4
15:10:59wodzmortalis: for which target are you building?
15:12:55wodzdo you have some additional changes?
15:14:47mortalisyes, but now I tested with clean tree
15:15:24mortalissame result
15:16:18wodzok, thanks for your time. I'll try to compare the builds, maybe I'll spot the difference
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15:24:53wodzthe size difference comes from different resolution most probably
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15:57:14wodzmortalis: this is the diff of my local branch. This apparently works on my generic rk27xx device but now I realized that I load bootloader through DFU mode. I don't know if this makes any difference (it shouldn't as main rb binary boots of RKW on your hifiman).
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16:32:17mortaliswodz: now its working
16:32:29mortaliswodz: rb and OF both
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17:14:28passstabi am looking for the cheepist device possible
17:14:40passstabused is fine
17:14:48passstabany suggestions?
17:15:59dfktthat would probably be a sansa clip
17:16:13passstabok thanks
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17:20:07wodzmortalis: thats fantastic!
17:21:30wodzok, now we just need to give it some usable shape
17:22:32wodzmortalis: all buttons are read through adc on hifis, right?
17:23:01mortalisexcept power on/off
17:24:19wodzso can we use power + something combo to boot OF?
17:24:53mortalisand don't forget to call adc_init in bootloader
17:26:54wodzhow does it behave when you plug usb to powered off device? (I mean unpatched)
17:27:54passstabi'm running the dailys on my ipod nano g2
17:27:55fs-bluebotNo review with id 2 found
17:28:04mortaliswodz: it turns on
17:28:18wodzdoes it boot OF or is it handled in nand bootloader?
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17:28:47passstaband i can't sync it w/o switching to the origenal FW
17:29:14wodzpassstab: sync in which sense?
17:29:32passstabthe computer dosn't detect it
17:29:49wodzpassstab: which OS, which build
17:29:51Tornesync with what program?
17:30:08passstabos mint 11
17:30:26mortaliswodz: it boot OF. Behavior is the same like if turn on with power button
17:30:55passstabbuild d96a32d-120228
17:31:16passstabit dosn't mount
17:31:54passstabit worked fine when i used stable
17:32:09passstabbut there is a feature i need
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17:33:09wodzpassstab, can you tell at which build it broke?
17:33:31passstabas soon as i switched it broke
17:34:01passstab~a week ago maybe?
17:35:31wodzpassstab: thats strange since ~week old build works ok on my nano2g
17:35:57passstabmight have been later
17:36:15passstabi'll search the logs
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17:38:04passstabit was 2012-02-19
17:39:50wodzpassstab: I'll be testing various things tomorrow, will check thanks for reporting
17:40:10wodzfunman, [7]
17:40:55passstabacctualy it was around 19:40
17:41:24kugelfunman: the rockbox bootloader isn't moving. or shouldn't be
17:41:39*[7] fails to grasp the context
17:42:21passstabmy second question
17:42:31wodz[7]: passstab reports broken USB on nano2g with recent builds
17:42:40kugelrbutil, which now contains this sensible code, much more moving code
17:43:24passstabis there a way i can help with testing
17:43:26[7]probably a result of funman's rework, I think the freemyipod installers still ue 3.9 for a reason
17:43:54[7]passstab: do you have any information about when it broke?
17:44:12[7](i mean more exact than "between 3.9 and now")
17:44:31[7]you might try bisecting it if you have a build environment and want to help tracking it down
17:44:50passstabthe first build i used was at 2012-02-19
17:45:42passstabam i supposed to use the latest BL?
17:46:00[7]shouldn't make a difference
17:46:18[7]and it shouldn't have changed for several months anyway
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17:49:04passstab[7]: and that one broke
17:49:41wodzmortalis: I'll look at this but right now I have my children playing around which doesn't make reviewing code easy
17:52:02mortaliswodz: maybe I'll upload it on gerrit? andd can review it latter
17:52:17wodzsure, good idea
17:54:15passstabyou should make a amazon affiliates site
17:54:32passstabwith all the compatible players
17:56:39dfktpassstab, most compatible players are discontiuned, unfortunately ;)
17:57:03passstabthat sux
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18:02:39jlbiasiniHello, I think that lebellium Samsung-like theme should be taken off the fuze+'s theme site as long FS #12507 remains. It can lead to false bugreport as no one would think that a theme could break USB...
18:02:40fs-bluebot lebellium Samsung-like Theme causing rockbox crash on usb connection (bugs, unconfirmed)
18:05:05gevaertsjlbiasini: (a) if it does have that effect, it's not a false bugreport, and (b) it probably doesn't do that on any of the other targets the theme works on
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18:06:31jlbiasinino one did a count test on the gigabeat-s that have the same resolution. Don't we have a different theme site for each target?
18:07:13gevaertsthemes are per lcd size and colour depth
18:08:00jlbiasiniit would be nice to find a gigabeat-s owner to test this then... do you know one?
18:09:34gevaertsThere's not just the gigabeat s. There's also the gigabeat F
18:09:50wodzwhy the hell I got notification mail from gerrit for the patch I am not reviewing?
18:10:09Tornewodz: wghich one?
18:10:13jlbiasinigevaerts: I meant that peaple could report usb not working
18:10:14gevaertsAnd of course the YP-R0
18:10:29gevaertsjlbiasini: why is the gigabeat S special for that?
18:10:30wodzTorne: latest two
18:10:32n1swodz: the ones from Akio Idehara?
18:11:05jlbiasinioh also? I thing I'm just going to ask on the user mail list
18:11:08n1swodz: they were not from gerrit
18:11:37n1safaiu at least he just sent review requests to the dev list
18:11:48wodzah right it was from -dev ML
18:11:48Torneyeah, they are just regular emails he sent himself
18:12:01wodzfalse alarm then
18:12:28wodzI see we have warble patches on gerrit
18:12:45n1syeah, he sent his mail to the user ml though
18:13:12n1si'd really like for someone who knows about libraries and stuff to look at that
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18:13:39wodzwho was the mentor of this gsoc project?
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18:18:18wodzhmm, I fail to see the purpose of this g152
18:18:19fs-bluebotGerrit review #152 at,152 : Add support for HIDDEN Attribute of FAT filesystem by Akio Idehara (changes/52/152/1)
18:19:09Tornepresumably to hide things the OF creates so you don't have to see them, rather than deleting them?
18:19:16*gevaerts nods
18:19:20gevaertsIt makes sense to me
18:20:38wodzmaybe but setting this attrib by hand from rb seems kinda weird
18:21:07Tornenot sure why that's weirder than doing it from a PC
18:21:53gevaertsIt's a pain to do it from a non-windows machine
18:22:17Tornethat too
18:23:05wodzok, my perspective is biased most probably.
18:23:48Tornewe often suggest it as a solution to people, so it'd be nice if there was actaully a way to *do* it that was guaranteed to be accessible :)
18:26:38passstabwhat is bisecting?
18:28:01wodzpassstab: looking for a change which breaks something by means of binary search
18:35:32passstabi realize this may be related to problems i had with stable
18:35:43passstabi switched back
18:36:35passstaband when i plug it in i get rockbox BL ver 1.0 ata error 1
18:37:04passstabhold MENU+SELECT to reboot
18:37:18passstabthen select +play
18:37:49passstabfor disk mode
18:38:12passstabi useualy ignored it
18:38:42passstabbut sometimes i went into disk mode
18:38:57passstaband didn't know what to do
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19:34:35evilnickHmmm, are there any tools (like the simulator) that would help in creating a theme for RaaAa 1280 x 800?
19:35:11passstaboh am i supposed to restore it to factory conditions?
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19:38:29dfktevilnick, i took some random touchscreen simulator (cowon d2) and altered it for 800x480, then ran it with the -nobackground argument... it works perfectly fine
19:39:24evilnickdfkt: Sounds like a plan, how do I alter it for a different resolution?
19:39:53dfktevilnick, here's what needs to be changed -
19:40:02dfktdoesn't work with plugins enabled
19:41:28bertriklebellium, do you still have problems with your clip zip display?
19:41:48bertrikI think funman has a clip zip with the same display as you have
19:42:31lebelliumbetrik: the colors are still not what they should be indeed
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19:45:48bertrikooh, perfectdrug made a clip zip svg image :D
19:46:22bertriklebellium, something like that can be very hard to fix without having the device physically present
19:46:32bertrikI do have an idea though
19:46:39passstabdoes ata error -1 mean i'm supposed to restore to factory?
19:47:08lebelliumbertrik; I do understand and that's why I did not bother your further with that the last months. But if a developer has the same screen as mine... :D
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19:50:49dfktevilnick, did you get the pastie link before you pinged out?
19:51:47evilnickSorry, no. Can you re-send it please?
19:51:57dfkt[19:39] <dfkt> evilnick, here's what needs to be changed -
19:51:57dfkt[19:40] <dfkt> doesn't work with plugins enabled
19:52:57evilnickSweet - thanks for that, but since it involves recompiling (and I've bothered to reboot to Windows) then I think I'll just use it on target
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20:02:21kugelevilnick: SDL RaaA
20:02:42kugelpeople are surprisingly unaware of its existence :)
20:03:15kugelrun configure, select 200 and enter your resolution
20:03:20evilnickIs there a way of getting this without having to install a million things and tear all my hair out?
20:03:59kugelit has the same dependencies as the sim
20:04:34evilnickI'll do it on target then
20:05:06passstabcan anyone answer me?
20:06:10kugelevilnick: ?
20:06:16kugel"on target"?
20:06:45evilnickkugel: Copy the theme over, try it out, change the theme on my PC, copy it back over. Rinse and repeat!
20:07:03kugelsounds painful
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20:07:25kugelI recommend the sdl app
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20:08:28pixelmaor a text editor app
20:08:50evilnickpixelma: That's a good point!
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20:09:08fmlTorne: Hello. You are our gerrit guru, right? Could you help me with setting up gerrit access?
20:09:12MrFrosthey guys
20:09:35MrFrostI have a question
20:09:53MrFrostdoes rockbox supports PNGs?
20:10:22bertrikyes, I think selecting a png in the file browser will show the png
20:10:27MrFrostfor themes
20:10:30bertriknot sure if it works for album art
20:10:34funmanpassstab: do you have a build environment ?
20:11:00gevaertsMrFrost: no
20:11:33fmlTorne: I did everything as described in the wiki (UsingGit), but when I try to upload a change to gerrit, I get an error message stating that my email address does not match the one registered on gerrit.
20:14:26MrFrostwhat about BMP with alpha channel?
20:15:09bertrikMrFrost, that should work as far as I know
20:15:19MrFrostoh great
20:15:21passstabi ntg
20:15:36bertrikusing magic magenta for the transparent parts works, perhaps true alpha also works
20:16:41evilnickMrFrost: 2011-11-08: List icons and theme images can now have alpha information embedded, i.e. be transparent, using 32bit ARGB bitmaps. This removes the need for the magic magenta (#FF00FF) transparency, but this is still supported.
20:18:05MrFrostdon't like magenta
20:18:09gevaertsNot for 3.10 though
20:18:11MrFrostit looks ugly almost always
20:18:25gevaertsMrFrost: nobody does. That's why it's turned into transparency :)
20:18:32MrFrostevilnick: thanks
20:19:09funmanwhat controls rotation of daily builds ?
20:19:20funmanit might make sense to keep more builds, e.g. 1 week espaced
20:22:26passstabthat would be nice
20:23:02passstabif i get a build env is the rest easy?
20:24:08evilnickpassstab: Are you asking about how to do a binary search for which commit broke something?
20:24:33passstabi'm asking how i can help fix this
20:24:52pixelmasaratoga (for the logs and after reading the logs): the database still has a problem with no music files present, that could be a problem with auto-update enabled by default (IMO)
20:25:36pixelmaif I didn't miss a fix for that in the last few days, at least
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20:28:36fmlpixelma: What is the name of the feature (for the manual) for the database (to use in \opt)?
20:29:00fmlpixelma: if there is one of course
20:30:24pixelmanot sure what you mean exactly, but apss/features.txt might give a clue (or some platform file for the non-automatic features)
20:31:01funmanpassstab: i'll give you a build
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20:33:48funmanpassstab: funman/rockbox.ipod">
20:33:51bertrikI'm thinking of adding a link between the allowed USB charge setting and the charge code on AMS, but I can't make my mind up whether to define the charge current as a register setting define or simply as mA
20:34:14funmanisn't the register (mA/50) ?
20:34:39bertrikfor AMSv1 it's (ma/50)-1
20:34:57bertrikfor AMSv2 its (mA/70), *approximately*
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20:38:18funmanit'll round correctly though
20:38:43funmanexcept for 7 = 460mA
20:39:59funmanpassstab: does that one work? it's d96a32d01ab2d6 with 7b28711f6cf reverted
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20:50:15bertrikmake manual stopped working for me, it seems to get really far, but throws an error at the end. Any idea what I could be missing?
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20:51:36jlbiasinipamaury: I updated the bootloader to test your modification. Both OF and USB are no more working on bootloader !
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20:55:58pamauryjlbiasini: oops, indeed I made an error for the OF, let me fix that and check
20:57:23pamaurybut I don't see why USB would not work
20:58:42pamauryhum right, there should be no delay if usb is connected...
20:58:42jlbiasiniwait I think I have to retest it
20:58:57pamaurywhat a pain :-/
20:58:59jlbiasiniah yeah also
20:59:21pamauryI'll commit the first fix anyway, usb still work but you need to hold power long enough
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20:59:59jlbiasiniand after that we will need to put the file on the server
21:00:46CIA-44Commit c735ff2 in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: mkimxboot/fuze+: fix booting to the OF
21:01:30jlbiasinibut I don't understand I installed it with rbutil... It should have made no update... is rockbox utility updating the bootloader automaticly?
21:01:47pamauryI don't think so
21:01:55bluebrotherpamaury: does mkimxboot embed dualboot code in mkimxboot / libmkimxboot? I.e. do we have the same situation as with mkamsboot?
21:02:01pamaurybut the bootloader didn't change, only mkimxboot
21:02:06pamaurybluebrother: yes
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21:02:20bluebrotherpamaury: not good :(
21:02:32bluebrotherwhy? Is that necessary?
21:02:44pamaurydoing it differently would be really complicated
21:03:02bluebrotherwhy that?
21:03:19CIA-44c735ff2 build result: All green
21:03:56pamaurybecause of the sb file format, the code embedded in mkimxboot needs to be inserted at the right place, you can only do that when you have the OF file, it's not actually part of the rockbox binary
21:04:24jlbiasinipamaury: the real question is now how to update the bootloader without booting into OF... :/
21:04:35bluebrothersure, but why does the dualboot code need to be embedded in mkimxboot / libmkimxboot?
21:05:03bluebrotheryou're basically embedding a binary blob, so you could also load that blob from a file
21:05:55pamaurythat woudl require to change the format of the bootloader file, add more code to produce it...And this stub will basically *never* change
21:06:35bluebrotherwell, I've just seen a change to it so it does change.
21:06:47pamauryAnother option would be to have the bootloader file use the sb file format itself, that's doable
21:06:49bluebrotheras we had recently with the mkamsboot issue
21:07:10bluebrotherjust to make this clear, I'm talking about dualboot.o here.
21:07:30bluebrotherand loading that as additional file doesn't need a change in the bootloader file format.
21:08:02bluebrotheras for Rockbox Utility we can simply load another file from the server. Though having it in one file would be nicer of course. But that could also be done by putting it in a zip
21:09:06jlbiasinipamaury: haha it's seems i'm off for what you did with kumi. He let the info on the forum
21:09:10pamauryThe change happened because the port is not final, but I'll investigate the issue and tried to find a nicer way
21:09:58bluebrotherwell, the same could be said for the mkamsboot case. And it requires a new version of Rockbox Utility to deploy the update.
21:12:20pamauryis there a solution for mkamsboot or not yet ?
21:13:06bluebrothernot yet, and that's basically holding back the next Rockbox Utility
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21:13:23bluebrotherI haven't found time to look into it myself either
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21:16:57fmlpixelma: in the recent manual entry about customizing the root menu, a wrong \opt is used for database. It should be 'tagcache' instead of 'database'. Could you correct it please? I've lost repository access.
21:17:07fmlpixelma: in the recent manual entry about customizing the root menu, a wrong \opt is used for database. It should be 'tagcache' instead of 'database'. Could you correct it please? I've lost repository access.
21:18:01fmlAs a result, the word 'database' is missing in the manual.
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21:19:16fmlOr AlexP ^^
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21:25:36gevaertsrasher: at around what time are checkwps builds on the theme server updated?
21:26:25pamauryjlbiasini (for the logs): see the forum, I help a user and he posted the procedure
21:26:39pamaury(I think it's at page 24/25 in the fuze+ thread)
21:27:06rashergevaerts: huh, not at all it seems
21:27:10rasher-rw-r−−r−− 1 themes themes 15 Feb 28 00:38 VERSION
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21:27:41pamauryjlbiasini: see my answer to your question
21:27:51pamaury(in the logs)
21:28:40gevaertsrasher: doesn't that mean "a bit after midnight in whatever timezone the server sits"?
21:29:02rashergevaerts: yeah - except it last happened on the 15th...
21:29:07pamauryjlbiasini: is it really a problem if the fuze+ doesn't boot when usb is plugged and that you need to press power ?
21:29:24gevaertsrasher: isn't it "Feb 28"?
21:29:37rasheroh haha yes, you're right
21:29:47rasherall is well!
21:30:17gevaertsOK, so I can't upload my new theme until tomorrow morning
21:30:25jlbiasiniactually I used to just connect it it was more practical, but I guess I better wait that you solve it before updating the bootloader
21:30:28gevaertsBeing an early adopter has its downsides :)
21:30:49rashergevaerts: in about 11 hours
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21:30:56jlbiasinianyway another good question how is it with recovery mode? will it still works?
21:31:01pixelmafml: sorry, I'm not set up fully yet either - especially not here (abroad for 1.5 weeks still)
21:32:39pamauryjlbiasini: yes, always
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21:33:03pamauryI have a potential fix for usb, I'll check the power source
21:33:19jlbiasinigood idea
21:33:33fmlpixelma: ok, no problem
21:33:34jlbiasiniIf you implement it quickly I will test it
21:34:19jlbiasiniwait if you do that it will be also true on recovery!
21:34:37jlbiasinibut then no wait it should be ok
21:36:01pamauryrecovery mode is a pure hardware thing
21:36:16pamauryyou can't disable it except by blowing a fuse
21:36:59pamauryI'm checking my fix, I'll commit in a minute if it works
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21:41:51pamauryhum, weird, it doesn't work
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21:42:45jlbiasiniwhat doesn't?
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21:45:14pamauryapparently the power up source is not set to 5v on usb plug, or my code is buggy
21:45:25pamauryI'm checking with a modified bootloader
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21:45:55jlbiasinipamaury: after launching sbloader I still have no partition detected
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21:46:26pamauryyou OS will not mount anything since the partition are not readable
21:46:37pamaurybut if you run fdisk you should see 4 partition
21:46:40pamauryone of type 0x53
21:46:44jlbiasinieven fdisk -l
21:46:54pamaurydid you build a recovery image correctly ?
21:46:54fmlHrm... I can upload changes to the gerrit sandbox, but can't to the rockbox. Why?
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21:47:37jlbiasiniI will start from scratch again to be sure before givin us stress!
21:47:57pamauryI know it works, I've done it a few minute ago !
21:48:02gevaertsfml: did you ask Torne or Zagor to add you to the committers group?
21:49:09fmlgevaerts: I just wanted to upload a change for review, not to commit (push) it. I thought everybody could do that.
21:49:26gevaertsoh, I see what you mean
21:49:33gevaertsSorry, I misread. Yes, weird
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21:58:25jlbiasiniat the end his post he wrote: Boot one time onthe OF to end the flash process...
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22:00:05fmlTorne, Zagor: Could you look into that? The error I get when trying to upload a patch to gerrit (for review) is: author email address <my_linux_user>@<my_host_name> does not match your user account. But in the git commit contains the correct mail (i.e. the one registered on gerrit), I verified that with git show.
22:00:43bluebrotherok, so dualboot.o is simply an array of data (or some arrays, for the mkamsboot case).
22:00:58bluebrotherI don't see *any* reason why we can't download this data from the webserver.
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22:01:24bluebrotherplus, we make bootloader releases for a reason. Simply taking dualboot.o from git means that it might not be properly tested.
22:01:35bluebrotherthus defeating the purpose of having bootloader releases.
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22:02:37rarogjlbiasini: Hi, are you at the monitor?
22:03:40jlbiasinithe monitor?
22:03:44jlbiasiniI'm here
22:03:54rarog*at keyboard
22:03:58pamaurydamn, the lastest fuze+ bootloader doesn't work, the screen stays black
22:04:08pamauryI wonder if it's related to the recent framebuffer change
22:04:27rarogI wanted to upload the latest compiled bootloader.
22:04:35jlbiasiniok then that is what I experienced
22:04:40rarogSo better I won't update my fuze with it yet.
22:05:10pamauryyeah, wait, there is something wrong
22:05:55jlbiasiniactually that explain the weirdness about having the problem with the bootloader from rbutil
22:06:16jlbiasiniif you try several time at the end it boot into rb
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22:35:00pamauryhum, eaa83bd64775b87e943d345e2810deed44408776 broke the fuze+ bootloader
22:37:36Tornefml: it's complaining about the author address, not the committer address.
22:38:33Tornefml: i can add you to the committers group also, if you tell me your name :)
22:41:53rarogclkctrl code hm...
22:44:18pamauryfound the problem
22:46:22Tornefml: git show −−pretty=full will show you both author and committer addresses; git commit −−amend −−reset-author to reclaim authorship :)
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22:49:17rarogI can't await to see the changelog
22:50:56pamauryhum, still a problem, but it's getting better
22:51:18rarogAt least something on screen?
22:52:31rarogBtw, is it a bug or a feature, that if I select Repeat One in playback settings, that I can't skip the track even if I have a normal playlist? I don't have experience with this settings.
22:52:55pamauryI don't know
22:53:44Tornerepeat one basically changes the playback queue to just the same track over and over
22:53:55Torneso yeah, skipping forwards just repeats it again
22:54:02rarogSo it's a feature.
22:54:09rarogOk. :D
22:54:13Tornethat's technically a different question :p
22:54:23Tornei can see where you might, potentially, want it to do that
22:54:29Tornebut it seems more useful for it to proceed :)
22:55:03rarogTo next item in the playlist.... :D
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22:56:04rarogThat's at least what I expected from this setting... Repeating track until I use FW button.
22:56:28pamauryweird, it works when building a recovery firmware but hangs when building a normal bootloader
22:57:23rarogsome different build flags between recovery and normal bootloader?
22:58:37pamauryperhaps I did something wrong, I'm retrying
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23:05:09james31Hi, I read on your page that you're working on a version of Rockbox for Android.
23:05:53james31Is it a regular Android app, written in java?
23:06:23bluebrother^Rockbox is written in C, and Android doesn't change that.
23:06:25Tornetechnically, yes :)
23:06:42Torneit's an android app that happens to have a giant native library that contains rockbox's entire playback and UI engine
23:06:43bluebrother^Android requires some Java stuff, but you can still use C code.
23:06:48james31I know Rockbox is written in C.
23:07:10james31Ohhhhh OK.
23:07:26rarogThis reminds me that I wanted to submit a bug report with android version... I ignores the unicode settings and will not show the cyrillic letters in the songs, though it works well on the same rockbox version on fuze+ with same files.
23:07:27bluebrother^do you actually expect rewriting a codebase the size of Rockbox in Java to be something people want to do?
23:07:34bluebrother^especially if you have C developers? ;-) ._.
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23:08:52bluebrother^that's the point :)
23:09:18bluebrother^plus, native code is pretty much always faster than going through some VM
23:10:54bluebrother^either way, one of the "problems" of Rockbox on Android is that it looks like Rockbox, not like an Android application.
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23:12:16bluebrother^hmm. Left.
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23:43:07rarogwho is actually the android developer?
23:43:27rarogpaumary: andy progress?
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23:43:57wodzrarog: kugel
23:45:01wodzDo I read correctly that rolo is able to load only binaries made with 'add' and 'mi4' methods from scramble?
23:47:52pamauryrarog: yes and no
23:48:12pamauryfor some reason, correct code freeze and incorrect code works
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23:54:25raroghm.... what is actually the difference? some memory pointers which are calculated differently?
23:55:22pamauryno, some busy wait never ends in one case
23:57:01pamaurythere is definitely something wrong with the usb bootloader mode, rockbox crashes quite often when launched after usb mode
23:57:53CIA-44Commit c4450b9 in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: imx233: print power up source in the bootloader
23:57:54CIA-44Commit 0d78dd1 in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: imx233: user __FIELD_SET to set the clock divisors
23:58:26pamauryok, it seems to work with this, both bootloader and firmware but testing is necessary

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