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#rockbox log for 2012-03-07

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02:26:29MacAddicthey there rockbox'ers....
02:27:15MacAddictanyone up for a little guidance un-bricking my sansa e200? have been following this: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUnbrick
02:28:24MacAddictsorry.. e260
02:29:19JdGordondont ask to ask...
02:29:51MacAddictalrighty then…. thanks for the welcome....
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03:16:01[Saint]JdGordon: is there a reason other than overcomplication that submenus aren't configurable?
03:16:21[Saint](thinking from a ML thread)
03:17:56JdGordonother than that, umm.. its pointless
03:18:20JdGordoneverything you'd want from it can be acheived with shortcuts
03:18:31[Saint]My assumption is that it involves a shit-tonne more blocking and/or re-adding integral menu components.
03:18:49[Saint]And, not necessarily.
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03:19:34[Saint]Id like to get rid of the shortcuts menu personally, then trim down a few menus similar to what I have in my own builds.
03:19:36JdGordonit would be a massive ton of work for very little actual gain
03:19:46JdGordonit comes down to this:
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03:20:17JdGordon1) if you think the menus are layed out bad you probably should reorder them for how you like it in a custom build (you meaning Random Joe)
03:20:30JdGordon2) if you want to reorder them for fast access to common items then use shortcuts
03:21:38[Saint]1 is usually was beyond Random Joe's ability, though. The people that want minimal menus are those with little to no coding chops whatsoever in my experience.
03:22:06JdGordonif there is enough call for a minimal menu then thats a different story
03:22:08[Saint]So a UI would be nice, preferably in RBUtil.
03:22:20JdGordonassuming that means just removing menu items without reordering
03:24:24*[Saint] actually talked briefly with bluebrother^ yesterday about a configuration editor for RBUtil, I should re-read that to see where it ended.
03:24:50JdGordonthat discussion has happenined a few times
03:25:11JdGordonstep 1: come up with a script to generate settings.ini from settings_list.c
03:25:11[Saint]I _think_ it was "possible, but no sane way to expose the available configuration items per target (as yet)"
03:26:06JdGordonI don't necessarily agree it needs to be target specific, it just needs to be pretty close, we can always hand modify the ini file later
03:28:10[Saint]It'd be nice if it were generated at build time and packaged in rockbox.foo
03:28:49[Saint]Then RBUtil could just grab it from ./rockbox
03:29:23[Saint]And it'd even work (in theory) for custom builds with features chopped out.
03:30:31JdGordonyes
03:34:59[Saint]Though I suppose that's bootloader really needed, as irrelevant configuration items will be ignored and trimmed from the config the next time its saved by the target.
03:35:13[Saint]*not really
03:35:15[Saint]Bah.
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07:28:36*Dhraakellian wonders why albums are being inserted with tracks in random order
07:28:53DhraakellianSansa FuzeV1, 3.10 (iirc... I'll check)
07:29:09JdGordonbecause your filenames or tags are broken
07:29:15Dhraakellianhrm
07:29:21Dhraakelliantrying to think what changed
07:29:31DhraakellianI did add some new music recently
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07:29:37Dhraakellianone album did have a 00 track
07:29:53Dhraakellianbut it's happening with other albums too
07:30:01Dhraakellianand from the filebrowser as well
07:30:38Dhraakellianinsert last works properly, but not hitting <Select> on a single track or inserting with <Home>
07:30:54Dhraakellianinserting the album/folder with <Home>, that is
07:36:15Dhraakellianinsert next and insert last appear to work correctly
07:36:20Dhraakellianbut not just regular Insert
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07:37:04DhraakellianI wonder if regular Insert (and therefore <Home>) somehow got locked onto Insert Shuffled
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10:35:14wodzgevaerts: Is there a simple way to do all builds locally?
10:48:00jdgordTools/bins.pl
10:48:31wodzjdgord: thx
10:48:49jdgordAnd Sims.pl
10:48:58jdgordThat will get most of them
10:50:29gevaertsthere's tools/release/bins.pl, but you need to change it a bit (remove the VERSION= bits from all make invocations, and replace stablebuilds by allbuilds near the end) for all trunk builds
10:51:18wodzdoes it log results somewhere?
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14:30:54ZagorFYI: I am rebooting www.rockbox.org. this affects a bunch of our services.
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16:10:20sc_where can i find the latest unstable version of rockbox for the ipod 6g 160gb classic?
16:10:46sc_i feel like it is right infront of my face, or should be, but I still can't locate it on the site...
16:11:22funmanrockbox.git
16:11:52funmanthere's no current build for classic
16:12:30sc_thanks, and :(
16:12:41gevaertsThere isn't?
16:13:11*gevaerts checks
16:13:12gevaertssc_: http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipodclassic.zip
16:13:49sc_excellent, thanks
16:14:00gevaerts"unusable" builds aren't listed on http://build.rockbox.org/, but that doesn't always mean they're not there :)
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16:14:09funmanok, can we have the list somewhere?
16:14:19funman..else than in your mind
16:14:44gevaertsfunman: http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi :)
16:15:00gevaertsThe table headings are links
16:15:24gevaertsYou may have to "Toggle full/compact table" to get the full list
16:15:42gevaertsOh, and only uploaded builds are there, so no bootloaders and sims and things like that
16:15:58funmanhm ok
16:16:16funmanwho wants to do a bit of html5 for vertical text? we could then add a download picture or something
16:22:11sc_gevaerts: perfect! just what I needed
16:22:34sc_anyone else get the scan message from windows 7 when plugging in your removable device?
16:22:46sc_does scanning do anything (or break anything)?
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16:27:37Torneit's just looking to see what file types are ont he device, so it can offer you appropriate autoplay choices
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16:35:39sc_sorry for not being more clear, it is not the autoplay, which I like. It is a message stating that there could be an error on the device because it could have been removed incorrectly... I guess I will just have it scan and see haha
16:37:07Zagorbleh. it appears transform:rotate() is a browser-specific css extension. there's one each for mozilla, wekbit, opera and ie...
16:38:02Torneoh. Then yes, it's complaining that the filesystem is not marked as clean
16:38:09Tornebecause you didn't unmount it cleanly before removing it
16:38:21Tornethat's normal if that is indeed what you did, and you should scan the filesystem :)
16:38:46Tornewhgich may indeed find things that are corrupt, and remove/alter them, which might look to you like it's broken something :p
16:39:00funmanZagor: http://www.storiesinflight.com/html5/#canvastextrotate ?
16:39:48Zagorfunman: http://www.w3schools.com/css3/css3_2dtransforms.asp
16:42:27funmani hope it means a non-prefixed version will be advertized in some future
16:43:46Tornefunman: it's being worked on: http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-transforms/
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16:45:16pixelmasc_: I also had the case that I've unmounted correctly and checked for filesystem errors on another system which returned an "ok" and Windows 7 still wanted to check. I've been told that I would have to let it do this once and then it'll be "happy" and not ask again, haven't tried since though
16:46:30Torneyeah, not every FAT implementation agrees on the definition of "unmounted cleanly"
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17:08:11GodEater_clearly windows 7's is "has the chastity belt been locked again properly?"
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17:44:30sc_Torne/pixelma: tanks for the info
17:46:22sc_latest ipod classic build is very stable
17:46:25sc_:)
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17:49:54lorenzo92kugel: I did an extreme modded firmware: removed all samsung stuff, added ext support, and removed RFS shit. Incredible or not, CPU usage is very very low now!
17:50:04lorenzo92around 10%, while before 30%
17:51:15funmansc_: does usb work fine?
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18:21:00Mirgot a questiong thats not related to the clip.... on my E200 i have some folders that contain music and the album art
18:21:15Mirbut when i play the music back the art doesnt show up
18:21:22Mirit puzzles me
18:23:41funmansupported cover art format should be covered in the manual
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18:28:37kugellorenzo92: cpu% numbers on that thing are very dodgy
18:29:19lorenzo92kugel: yeah ok, but it's not random that cpu usage is lower in the mean :)
18:30:02lorenzo92kugel: a benchmark would help to find out the truth :D
18:32:02lorenzo92I've just checked with OF, it works but folder surfing don't for some reason. I will dig into that, if it's the case we can remove the RFS module without problems
18:32:22lorenzo92or, better, don't load it when using rockbox!
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18:33:27pamaurybluebrother^: did you released a new version of rbutil ?
18:33:35*Torne votes +10000 to "not loading samsung rfs"
18:33:40Tornejust on principle.
18:33:55lorenzo92Torne: (y)
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18:53:40sc_i was leaving my ipod playing during lunch, came back and all i heard was a high pitched buzzing...
18:53:44sc_hard reboot fixed
18:53:52sc_latest build for ipod classic 160gb
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18:54:47funmansc_: what about USB ?
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19:07:11azhaghello
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19:10:10sc_funman: usb is working
19:10:20sc_have not tried the dumb charger
19:11:37sc_freezing/loud buzzing happened again
19:14:18azhagwell, about that working usb, I just bricked my sansa fuze v2 probably because of usb
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19:22:31funmani don't believe that, please explain
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19:23:51azhagfunman: I'm posting on forum atm
19:24:36funmanazhag: please explain the issue here first, it'll avoid a useless post
19:28:10azhagin short words: plugged in (windows xp, if that matters), deleted some files from sd
19:29:50azhagand when unplugged rockbox panicked (didn't noticed error code), now player won't turn on
19:30:11azhagno reaction on anything
19:33:26azhagcurrent build from today
19:34:50gevaertsHave you tried hard-resetting it by holding the power switch for at least 30 seconds?
19:36:19azhagI did hold the power switch for a quite long time, not sure if at least 30 seconds
19:37:17azhagbut I can try again and check time this time ;)
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20:04:45azhaghere's my post: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,33668.0.html
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20:34:49saratogafunman: post office only wanted $3 shipping to send the ipod to Canada !
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20:39:06gevaertshmm
20:40:43gevaertsIsn't this fuzev2-acts-like-a-brick-after-panic-on-disconnect symptom more or less similar to why USB was disabled on AMSv2 in the first place?
20:41:25saratogaprobably
20:41:57pixelmait was due to being stuck when rebooting into the OF, if I understand the question correctly
20:42:04bertrikWe fixed the unresponsive-after-panic on AMSv2 at some point, it was caused by turning off the ROM clock
20:42:36saratogayeah this is something else
20:42:49saratogamaybe one of the clocks doesn't get reset or something
20:43:20saratogai get occasional crashes on disconnect on amsv2, but they're always just a panic with a short press to reboot
20:43:46saratogaalthough i use a clip+
20:43:47dfkti get either rebootable crashes, or ones that need a hard reset
20:43:54dfktwith both clip+ and zip
20:44:37saratogado we have any idea how the hard reset function actually works?
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20:45:56bertrikit's a hardware thing and should always work
20:46:26bertrikalthough I wonder what happens if you configure the power GPIO as output and force it high, could it be that this prevents a hard reset?
20:46:27dfktseems more sophisticated than a reset/breaker hole
20:46:35saratoga_it must depend on some clock though
20:46:40saratoga_since its counting time
20:48:17saratoga_bertrik: you think our polling routine can freeze with the GPIO in the wrong state?
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20:49:19bertrikpossibly, I'll have to look up whether we force anything on the power GPIO
20:49:52bertrikwell in that case, a quick hack would be to disable all interrupts in panic and force the power pin as input
20:51:01saratoga_how much can we do in the panic handler?
20:51:24bluebrother^pamaury: yes. Any concerns about it?
20:51:45bluebrother^I wanted to get the two problematic issues pushed, and it doesn't make the dualboot issue worse.
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20:56:47bertriksaratoga_, now not so sure anymore, I vaguely remembered that we did something to the power GPIO to sense hold on some targets, but can't find that now
20:57:27saratoga_is the system in a normal state in the panic handler, except that you don't know if the RAM is in a good state?
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21:00:06bertrikI thought so
21:00:50bertrikthe clipv2 does indeed put A7 (power) high for some time, in order to read back the hold state through A3
21:02:17bertrikthe PWR_UP pin doesn't appear to be a GPIO by itself
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21:19:19funmansaratoga_: cool that's dirt cheap
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21:35:05DethSoneRockBox is pretty kewl, although I have a suspicion it was RockBox that caused my last SansaClip+ to die beyond Soft-Reset
21:35:18saratoga_on USB insert?
21:35:22DethSoneI think RockBox should move towards Mobile Phones!
21:35:33DethSonesaratoga_: I forgot now
21:35:48saratoga_rockbox does run on android phones
21:36:00DethSonereally?!?
21:36:02saratoga_you forgot what happened?
21:36:34DethSonedoes it run like an app, of natively on boot?
21:36:40DethSoneor*
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21:37:18saratoga_app
21:37:29saratoga_like i said, it runs on android
21:38:28DethSonedo you mean 'on andriod OS' or 'on phones that are compatible with Android but not run as an app'?
21:38:58gevaertsAndroid has a very specific meaning
21:39:00DethSoneah
21:39:06DethSonewhatever
21:39:24DethSoneis there a .jar version of RockBox for other phones?
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21:39:56saratoga_android doesn't use JAR files, but yes you can grabs APKs for it
21:39:58gevaertsNo. Rockbox isn't written in java. For android there's just a tiny java wrapper around it
21:40:30dfktalso, there's no camelcase in Rockbox (thank gawd... ;)
21:41:12DethSoneI want a .jar version for my �10 Samsung GT-E2121B phone, could I get one?
21:41:19gevaertsno
21:41:24DethSoneoh :-(
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21:44:11funmanazhag: can you hear something if you plug and phones and play with the connection?
21:44:18funmans/and phones/headphones/
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21:46:10DethSonethe story of my old SansaClip+: first volume button broke, a month later whenever I tried turning it on it went all screwy and I couldn't even gain access to the files via USB, tried soft-reseting in as many ways I knew possible, nothing., I love RockBox but am too afraid to install it on my new re-bought SansaClip+, as I'm suspicions it was RockBox that caused it to eventually die.
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21:47:29azhagfunman: yes, I do
21:47:35evilnickProbably best not install it on your phone then, DethSone!
21:47:50azhagso it's still on
21:48:05DethSonehaha, I can't afford a fancy-anough phone to do that anyways
21:48:43funmanazhag: so it's crashed, wait for the battery to empty and charge it
21:50:19azhagok, I will
21:50:24DethSonehey, could anyone here PLEASE link my to a version of the RockBox emulator for Windows, that installs/runs nicely with Wine on Linux?, I'm too noob-y to compile 'n' stuff.
21:50:31DethSoneme*
21:52:12azhagwill tell you tommorow evening if my player works
21:52:29azhagthanks funman, thanks saratoga_
21:52:45DethSoneazhag: good luck :-)
21:54:01azhagthanks, keep your fingers crossed ;)
21:54:50DethSoneazhag: 'cant, previus SansaClip+ blew off all my fingers :-(
21:55:16DethSonewhy do I keep wasting what little money I get on those!?!
21:55:45DethSoneall they ever do is blow up in my hand!
21:55:53DethSoneXD
21:57:06azhagnow I need to find my old C24...
21:57:20azhagC240
21:57:36azhagit's gonna be a long day
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22:01:30DethSonesomeone needs to make a RockBox OS for netbooks 'n' laptops
22:01:48passstablol
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22:03:20DethSoneI think a RockBox OS could give Ubuntu media centre and XMBC a run for their, err, community.
22:03:59azhagDethSone: Rockbox in the Cloud ;)
22:04:08saratoga_i don't think you'd want to use rockbox for something like that, we're a relatively lightweight embedded operating system
22:04:12evilnickA Rockbox OS doesn't really make sense
22:04:13DethSoneazhag: ifk 'bout that
22:04:20DethSoneidk*
22:04:21saratoga_we're much more simple then XBMC
22:04:25DethSoneazhag: idk 'bout that
22:05:46DethSonesaratoga_: not really, and RockBox OS would only need a few new features not present in RockBox FW, like Weather and a few extra video codecs.
22:06:16DethSonemaybe even a kick ass theme
22:06:17saratoga_you wouldn't want to build that on a system like rockbox
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22:06:45DethSonewhy the hell not? makes sense to me
22:06:51saratoga_then you're not a programmer
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22:07:16azhagDethSone: you abviously forgot about emacs ;)
22:07:19DethSoneI relly do think that with a few tweaks and extras, RockBox could be the new Media Center OS on the block!
22:07:31DethSonereally*
22:07:42gevaertsAdding decent video playback support and networking is *not* "a few tweaks and extras"
22:08:03scnot really the target for rockbox imo
22:08:04DethSonesemms like it to me
22:08:09DethSoneseems*
22:08:14gevaertsOK. Come back next week with patches then
22:08:48sc/s/patches/complete_overhaul
22:10:17DethSonewhat the hell is wrong with you guys!?!, I'm no dev, I can't program 'n' stuff, but as a qualified IT Technician, I really do think a RockBox OS would be entirely possible, and would be brilliant!, so long as it's kept separate from the RockBox Firmware project of-course.
22:11:01gevaertsWhat's wrong with us is that we suffer from a lack of cluelessness
22:11:32gevaertsI mean, seriously, if you're not familiar with how rockbox works, how can you know that it's a minor set of changes?
22:11:45DethSonewhat do we need to start off with?, a new kernel, maybe a boot-loader (could use GRUB)...
22:12:06gevaertsA new kernel, a new GUI, a new playback system
22:12:12saratoga_a new everything
22:12:15gevaertsSo how is this rockbox?
22:12:18Torneso how about for the kew kernel we use linux
22:12:22Torneand for the new gui we use xbmc
22:12:27Torneand for the new playback system we use ffmpeg :)
22:12:32TorneOh great, someone already did it :p
22:12:33evilnick:D
22:12:37DethSonemost the stuff needed to turn it into an OS is already out there just requiring a few tweaks!
22:12:41Tornethat saves a lot of time.
22:13:41DethSoneokay okay, forget the new OS idea, how's 'bout making a RockBox player for OSs like Ubuntu, Fedora and maybe Windows?
22:13:50DethSonesurely that don't need much?
22:13:59DethSoneI bet that'd look fly!
22:14:01stripwaxDethSone - you mean like Rockbox As An Application?
22:14:11DethSonestripwax: yes
22:14:24DethSonethat's be soo kewl!
22:14:59Tornethe hint there is that this is already implemented
22:15:01DethSoneI'd donate my freakin' bed to that project just to use that application!
22:15:04Torneyou can build rockbox as an SDL app
22:15:10Torneand run it on platforms that support the SDL :)
22:15:13gevaertsOoooh, we get a new bed!
22:15:19Tornepeople don't, because the UI is kinda crappy
22:15:20stripwaxhurrah!
22:15:21bluebrother^\o/
22:15:24Torne:p
22:15:32bluebrother^though wouldn't be more beer for next DevCon more useful?
22:15:53DethSoneno emulator 'n' stuff, an overhaul!, an actually purpose made RockBox media player!
22:16:05stripwax- what?
22:16:13gevaertsWe don't have an emulator anyway, so no problem there
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22:16:52DethSonewith its own codec system, a new interface, new menus 'n' stuff
22:17:07stripwaxDethSone - all that new stuff, you're writing that?
22:17:14evilnickWhat would you be in favour of actually keeping?!
22:17:23stripwaxor are you suggesting it would be the existing rockbox code (in which case - that's just rockbox, no?)
22:18:06*stripwax tries to reconcile "a new interface, new menus 'n' stuff" with 'surely that don't need much'
22:18:17bluebrother^definitely not!
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22:18:33DethSoneI hate Microsoft, I have no copy of Windows, it is wrong, but I'm guessing a RockBox media player would look something like Windows Media Player, but more yellow and more basic.
22:18:40bluebrother^that's like a weekend of work!
22:18:51stripwaxDethSone - we have a contender for the golden quotes
22:18:52bluebrother^like WMP? Urgh
22:18:54stripwaxmore yellow!
22:18:56*bluebrother^ wouldn't use that then
22:19:03DethSoneXD thank you
22:19:06bluebrother^more beer would be ok, but more yellow?
22:19:10stripwaxha!
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22:19:16DethSonestripwax: yeah!
22:19:59stripwaxDethSone - so, a rockbox media player would look something like the existing rockbox application running via SDL, only, not using SDL, and not using the rockbox menus or interface, but something new.
22:20:06TorneDethSone: i think ultimately the point you are missing is that rockbox exists to fill a niche on a bunch of devices that otherwise just unfixably lack a bunch of useful features (trivial usb access, gapless replaygained playback, codec support, etc)
22:20:12TorneNo such niche really exists on desktop computers
22:20:16DethSoneRockBox is like Gamboy Color Pokemon Edition, Yellow, eww, AWESOME!
22:20:28Tornethere are fifty media players already, and many of them support basically the same playback functionality we do
22:20:46Torneour codebase is written from scratch to support tiny devices with serious limitations
22:20:47stripwaxI bet more than a handful have fully customizable UIs already
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22:21:15AlexPAlso, there is no capital B in Rockbox
22:21:17Torneyou would do better to find an existing open source desktop media player app and try and get them to add any features rockbox has that it currently lacks, probably
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22:21:27Torneit'd likely be a lot less work for a better result
22:21:31DethSone"RockBox is like Gamboy Color Pokemon Edition, Yellow, eww, AWESOME!" -me, is that one for the 'golden quotes' of the IRC chat?
22:21:36DethSonesurely yes
22:21:37bluebrother^guys, please don't make useful suggestions! :P
22:21:43AlexPDethSone: Rockbox!
22:21:56stripwaxDethSone - no
22:21:56DethSone:D
22:22:04bluebrother^DethSone: definitely not. Since you're asking for it ...
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22:22:16funmancan we please this dev-related
22:22:20funmankeep
22:22:23DethSoneI felt it needed to be noticed
22:22:25AlexPGolden is a synonym for idiotic in the context of Golden Quotes :)
22:22:35bluebrother^and btw, there is some RockboxOS!
22:22:42bluebrother^it runs on a wide range of players
22:22:47bluebrother^using different architectures
22:23:28bluebrother^there's an installer for it, a manual, an active community :)
22:24:09DethSoneokay okay!, screw the RockBox application/program!, would someone please at-least make a stupid RockBox-like theme for VLC?
22:24:29AlexPAs somewhere else
22:24:33AlexP*Ask
22:24:39*bluebrother^ doesn't see how a vlc theme is Rockbox related
22:25:11stripwaxDethSone - yep - #rockbox is for on-topic conversation about rockbox - so I suggest if you don't actually want to discuss about rockbox itself, you should probably discuss elsewhere (maybe #rockbox-community)
22:25:19DethSonebluebrother^: relly?!?
22:25:28bluebrother^DethSone: really.
22:25:30stripwaxDethSone - read the irc topic
22:25:53DethSonewtf does XChat keel printing 'relly' whenever I type 'really'!?!
22:26:05DethSonekeep* argh!!!
22:26:23AlexPDethSone: Stay on topic, or don't say anything please
22:26:40*bluebrother^ throws a new topic in: DevCon 2012
22:26:44DethSoneAlexP: it's an IRC channel, not a forum
22:26:55AlexPDethSone: You will be muted
22:27:04AlexPWe have rules here, same as anywhere else
22:27:05Mode"#rockbox +o funman" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
22:27:07*bluebrother^ wonders who's going to get the @ :P
22:27:10evilnickDethSone: Seriously, we've all had a laugh, but this channel is for official business
22:27:12DethSoneffs
22:27:18Mode"#rockbox +b *!*DeathSone@*.197.189.22.threembb.co.uk" by funman (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman)
22:27:18WarnBanlist contains 20 bans!
22:27:18Kick(#rockbox DethSone :DethSone) by funman!~fun@rockbox/developer/funman
22:27:21*stripwax zonk
22:28:00AlexPbluebrother^: Have there been any location discussions?
22:28:12AlexPfunman: A mute might have been more appropriate there
22:28:13Mode"#rockbox -o funman" by funman (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman)
22:28:20bluebrother^AlexP: none that I'm aware of, but I haven't been following IRC too much
22:28:26AlexPMe neither
22:28:39AlexPI guess that is the first hurdle, find out where :)
22:28:40funmanAlexP: feel free to remove the ban and show me how to do it
22:28:41bluebrother^though I think DevCon should happen
22:30:17AlexPfunman: +q instead of +b
22:30:33Mode"#rockbox +o AlexP" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
22:30:52Mode"#rockbox -b *!*DeathSone@*.197.189.22.threembb.co.uk" by AlexP (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP)
22:30:59Mode"#rockbox -o AlexP" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
22:31:06AlexPIf he comes back :)
22:31:47gevaertsAnd without the kicking :)
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23:10:43wodzonda747+ doesn't build make: *** No rule to make target `/home/wodz/rockbox/firmware/export/config/ondavx747p.h', needed by `/home/wodz/rockbox/build/boot.link'. Stop.
23:13:39pamaurybluebrother^: no problem, it's just that I'm about to solve the dualboot problem but I guess that can wait the next release
23:14:02bluebrother^pamaury: that's great news!
23:15:27pamaurybluebrother^: the code needs a review but basically I wrote some coe that pack several files into the bootloader file, then I moved the dualboot code to tools/ so it's integrated into a scramble-like tool. Then mk*boot just need to unpack the different files and it's done. It works for mkimxboot and I'm still in the process of converting mkamsboot (more complicated)
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23:19:02bertrikI hope this doesn't make it easier to accidentally screw things up with the bootloader
23:20:11wodzhmm, what is the meaning of bootloader build for RaaA targets?
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23:30:34wodzbootloader for Mrobe500 is not automatically built and throws warning about unused variable.
23:34:29pamaurybertrik: not accidentally normally, I mean not if properly tested
23:35:17pamauryif you start to play with the bootloader file of course, you can do bad things
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23:58:27*Dhraakellian figured out his issue from last night
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