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#rockbox log for 2012-03-09

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03:50:39zenlunaticanyone want a dead sansa clip+, for science?
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03:55:34funmani'll bring it to the pet cemetary
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03:55:54zenlunaticdont think its bricked
03:56:11zenlunatici hadn't flashed in in a good two or more months
03:56:57funmanah, perhaps disconnected battery or something. in any case if you're not working on it i wouldn't mind getting it as i left mine in europe
03:56:58zenlunaticit started acting funny, like delaying volume changes when i changed volume.
03:57:22zenlunaticokay send me your address
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03:59:21zenlunaticits not firmware induced bricking, but essentially is bricked
04:00:15zenlunatici only thought that perhaps it could be useful for a dev *shrug*
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04:20:25Ian-MooneMany versions of the Ipod are not listed as stable, unstable, or unusable.
04:20:38Ian-MooneWhat is the most recent iPod classic I can use with this?
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04:21:02passstabthe one that are listed are the ones that are supported
04:21:32Ian-MooneBut some aren't listed as supported or unsupported; does that mean they aren't?
04:22:06passstablink for the lazy?
04:22:38Ian-Moonethe front page.
04:23:00Ian-Moonestable is up to ipod 5.5; above that is not listed
04:24:28passstabi don't see a list of unsupported devices
04:24:53Ian-Mooneunusable ports
04:25:05Ian-MooneNothing by apple is there
04:26:18passstabthe others aren't even under development
04:26:33funmani see 3 Apple devices mentioned (i.e. don't work at all but some work was done) and the ipod classic
04:27:58Ian-Mooneso if I intend to get rockbox, stick to 5th generation?
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04:29:24funmanClassic is being actively worked-on, but 5th generation is a safe bet, sure.
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06:46:33KiwiCamRockbox. It's so good. You should be very proud of yourselves.
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08:27:36[Saint]RaaA Testing Time!
08:28:55[Saint]Please report theme issues to:
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08:31:54wodzI'd like to move MPIO HD300 to stable - it works perfect, manual is complete, bootloader released, there is support in RbUtil (but disabled by default now). How should I proceed?
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10:24:40GodEater_[Saint]: can you make the zip available as a download on github too? Dropbox is blocked here.
10:26:10kugelGodEater_: github automatically provides zip downloads
10:26:18GodEater_of the repo
10:26:29kugelyea, the theme is in one of the subdirs
10:26:49kugelor do you need to run something to generate the final themes?
10:27:05GodEater_right, but if he's made a zip and chucked it on dropbox, he might as well put it on the github downloads page for his repo too
10:28:42GodEater_if I wanted his entire repo, I'd just clone it right? :)
10:29:55kugeli assumed you cannot clone where you are, if even dropbox is blocked there
10:30:19kugeland/or cannot install git
10:30:57[Saint_]The entire repo is pretty much just the themes, but, yes...I'll add the themes in zip format to their appropriate directory when I get home.
10:31:07[Saint_]...about 20 mins
10:32:12[Saint_]If you want the themes as they are right now, zipped, there's a test zip on my G+
10:32:23[Saint_]But that includes all themes.
10:32:23GodEater_the block on dropbox is about DLP "Data leakage prevention" - because you can easily upload files to it. Whilst it is possible to also upload to github, it's a lot harder, so they don't block it.
10:32:37GodEater_G+ is also blocked. Social network.
10:33:07kugelgithub is also a social network, in a sense :)
10:33:20GodEater_not in a sense that the powers that be here understand ;)
10:33:39GodEater_it mostly does not contain naked pictures of it's users on drunken nights out ;)
10:33:49[Saint_]Well, I'm home in 20, I'll let you know when the individual zips are committed.
10:33:58GodEater_although I imagine you could find *some* if you looked hard enough
10:34:38[Saint_]I'll make a repo of that too if you want :)
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11:06:30[Saint]GodEater_: Done.
11:06:49GodEater_sweet - ta
11:07:15GodEater_"Sorry, there aren't any downloads for this repository."
11:07:56[Saint]Hmmmm...where are you lookin'?
11:07:58GodEater_oh I see - you checked it in
11:08:22GodEater_that's where I was expecting you to put it
11:08:29[Saint]Oh....I didn't know such a thing existed.
11:09:20GodEater_hmm - getting them from the check in is going to mean a clone I think - I can't get the file from the web interface
11:09:45GodEater_oh no - I lie. Getting the "Raw" file gets the right thing.
11:09:52[Saint]Ok, I'll let you know when I've figured out putting them where you expected them to be :)
11:10:12GodEater_erm, if you visit that url when you're logged in - you should get an "upload" box there
11:10:18GodEater_(I do on my repos)
11:10:36[Saint]Ah, right. I see.
11:10:53*[Saint] tips his hat in GodEater_'s direction.
11:11:02*GodEater_ throws in a penny7
11:12:41[Saint]Gah...I'll have to change the naming scheme to put them in there, lest I confuse people mightily.
11:12:53[Saint]Just checking, it allowed you to download what you wanted, yes?
11:13:04GodEater_the repo?
11:13:06pixelmacurious if I'm the only one having the following weird problem with the dev ml: Some mails appear multiple times for me, som don't. The common ground seems to be the sender address - all multiple ones are addresses + one hotmail address. This started on the first of March
11:13:33[Saint]GodEater_: Were you able to dl just the .zip you wanted?
11:13:39GodEater_pixelma: no issue here for me. The only mail I've seen twice is the one from scorche, and that's cos it got sent twice.
11:13:43GodEater_[Saint]: I believe so
11:14:02GodEater_won't know till I can slap a recent build on the phone and look at it though
11:14:27pixelmaat the moment I'm reading mails through a webmail page, so I'm also a bit unsure if it's a provider problem
11:14:58[Saint]GodEater_: Ah, ok. Cool, I'll still put them in /saint-lacivious/blah-blah/Downloads/ but it just won't be this very second, I've got to bugger off for about a half hour.
11:15:07pixelmaGodEater_: thanks, that's one answer
11:15:33GodEater_[Saint]: no rush ;)
11:15:50pixelmathat's also what I see when looking at the archives on
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14:27:12Abu_AlbraHey guys
14:28:04Abu_AlbraI found your channel while I was searching for usb boot mode
14:28:54Abu_Albrabut not for a music player it is for an android tablet /o\
14:30:22gevaerts"usb boot mode"?
14:32:48Abu_Albrayeah I flashed my tablet and I am trying to get into FWDN mode but it is not going for some reason so what I need is to use the other mode which is usb boot mode
14:33:49Abu_Albrayou probably heard about xda developers ;on thier forums they said that this usb mode is no more needed
14:34:02Abu_AlbraI am really stuck :(
14:34:33gevaertsAh, right. Sorry, we can't help with that here
14:35:11Abu_Albrayeah that`s ok
14:35:30Abu_AlbraI just heard about rockbox and it seems so cool
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14:40:51ZagorAbu_Albra: it is!
14:41:30*wodz would like to stress once more the question what is needed to move MPIO HD300 to stable
14:42:34gevaertswodz: (a) installable using rbutil, (b) a manual, (c) the porters think it's ready
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14:43:26wodz(a) is ready (although it is disabled by default last time I checked), (b) is ready, (c) I think it is ready
14:43:58gevaertsThen just some coordinated work I'd say
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14:45:10wodzWhat you mean? I think just before release is nice time to do that.
14:45:23*gevaerts agrees
14:45:37gevaertsI mean, if it's disabled in rbutil it needs to be enabled
14:45:45wodzI see
14:45:59gevaertsApart from that it's mostly about updating tools/ and the homepage I think
14:46:19gevaertsIt's not *much* work, but it needs to be coordinated a bit
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14:50:11wodzbluebrother: will not be that happy - he just released new versions
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16:12:10CIA-44Commit d83180b in www by Björn Stenberg: Changed patches link to gerrit.
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16:23:01Zagorwhy do we use crosstool for ypr0 again?
16:32:54kugelit made it easy to build a complete toolchain, including c lib
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18:14:45AlexPIs there anything fundamental standing in the way of getting commit emails back, or is it just time to set it up?
18:15:03AlexPWithout them I'm not really aware of what is going on :)
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19:01:52cougartenHi, whats the reason for the 250percent speed limit (in the pitch meneu)
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19:03:22cougartenSomething like window overlapping or just cpu speed compatibility? (In which case i'd like to see that limit dropped)
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20:08:12lebelliumwhy is it impossible to download themes for Clip Zip with the rockbox utility?
20:08:13Lars_GHey all.
20:09:17Lars_GQuestion, my sansa e200 has started suddenly hanging up as soon as I start rockbox. It had some misshaps with ubs and now wont boot to rb. I tried using utility to move to the lattest stable to no avail (of loads and works right). any tips? what is the least desteructive stuff I can erase to try fixing it? maybe the music db?
20:12:04bertriklebellium, no idea
20:13:43lebelliumbertrik: "no themes available for the selected target" Oo
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20:17:05Lars_GNo tips or debug steps for me?
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20:22:03gevaertsLars_G: I'd start by checking the filesystem
20:23:23bertriklebellium, I get the following error when retrieving the URI that rockbox from git uses: description="Please update Rockbox Utility to version 1.2.1 or later, which fixes a bug with theme handling. Theme installation will not work with this version."
20:24:36bertrikit looks like rbutilqt.php doesn't properly recognises parameter rbutilver=1.2.13
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20:25:34lebelliumbertrik hum okay ;) do u know who is able to fix that?
20:26:35Lars_Ggevaerts: it checks out ok
20:27:35bertrikI don't know how/where the themes stuff is hosted, it's not in git I think
20:28:58gevaertsLars_G: you could try clearing the settings by (IIRC) holding record while booting
20:29:08Lars_Ghmmm ok
20:32:07lebelliumgevaerts do you have an idea for the clip zip themes?
20:32:33gevaertslebellium: what?
20:33:06lebelliumcf the posts just above
20:33:14gevaertsI have no idea
20:33:51Lars_GI lost the theme but it did work
20:34:45lebelliumgevaers: who should I ask then? I still don't understand anything to the rockbox team organisation i.e who should I talk to for that or that problem :S
20:35:08gevaertsrasher and bluebrother I guess
20:35:49rasherbertrik: which url is that?
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20:36:31bertrikthe URI I saw in the rbutilqt log:
20:37:30rasheroh... oh dear
20:37:49rasherIt's checking if the revision is >26641
20:38:12bertrikrasher, this is from the git version of rb util qt btw
20:39:26rasherMaybe it'll be close enough to count any revision including a-f as >26641
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20:42:29rasherlebellium: can you check if it still works?
20:42:43rasherlebellium: er, can you check if it works now?
20:44:01lebelliumok I check
20:44:45lebellium"network error: request aborted"
20:44:59lebellium"please check your network and proxy settings"
20:45:07lebelliumBut I guess the issue doesn't come from my connection
20:47:59lebelliumas downloads for other files (font etc) work fine
20:48:36lebelliumerr, font pack "download error: received HTTP error 404"
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20:51:11lebelliumok font pack download finally work but still the same 'network error' for themes rasher
20:51:44rasherI'm going to blame something else for that - maybe your connection
20:52:11lebelliumrockbox build and font pack downloads work with the utility
20:52:14lebelliumso why not themes?
20:53:05bertrikI get the same error that lebellium got at 19:45 UTC
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21:03:12bertrikI also get it with a clipv1
21:08:09lebelliumI did not try with the Clip+ but I assume that may occur too then
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21:22:30bertrikdo we have a schedule for the next rockbox release?
21:23:00gevaertsSee AlexP's mail
21:23:08gevaertsWell, unless there are blockers
21:23:26gevaerts(which the nano2g USB situation might be)
21:23:34*funman was going to suggest this
21:24:09gevaertsfunman: no new information yet?
21:24:18funmansaratoga's nano2g is expected to arrive here shortly, at start of next week
21:24:40funmanand I expect USB to work a few kilograms of coffee later
21:26:16gevaertsrasher: maybe we need a quick call for translations
21:26:42rasherProblematic since the translation site is frozen in time (unless someone updated it to use git?)
21:27:28gevaertshm, right
21:28:22funmanwhy is it frozen? uploading patch to flyspray still works even if less convenient than git patches
21:28:43gevaertsfunman: it presumably doesn't handle git at all yet
21:29:24rasherProbably not too much work to get the first part going (pulling from git). I might be able to look at it later
21:29:50funmanha git input, ok
21:32:15bluebrotherlebellium: I get an error when trying to download themes as well.
21:32:32bluebrothereven for other targets, so it's definitely not related to the clip zip
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21:33:11bluebrothernow I get a 500 Internal Server Error :)
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21:34:26rasherHm yeah, something's not right at all
21:35:19rasherscorche|sh hosts it right?
21:37:19bluebrotherI think so
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21:37:59bluebrotherthough I wasn't involved with the theme site too much after
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21:52:31rasherscorche|sh: could you look at the themeserver logs and see if you can spot why it's falling over with 500 ISE?
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21:59:28bluebrotherlooking at it I think we could remove that redirecting to the old rbutilqt.php script.
21:59:46bluebrotherwhoever is running a version that old is likely to run into trouble using Rockbox Utility anyway
22:16:51bertrikpamaury, did you get any communication going at all with the stfm1000?
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22:27:37pamaurybertrik: haven't tried yet but I'm doing some reverse engineering
22:28:14pamauryI've figured out the pins for i2c, for the buttons, for the accelerometer, I'ved found the tuner code and identified the interesting point, I'll give you the ida pro project
22:28:35pamaurythe OF code looks rather complicated for the tuner
22:28:44pamauryhopefully we won't need it
22:29:27pamauryI havent't tried yet to build a rockbox image, I'm doing work with the bootloader currently
22:29:52pamauryand I need to implement the touch screen to get something usable
22:30:09bertrikoh ok
22:31:22pamauryIf I send it to you, you will see that the STFM is a bit special: the registers are manipulated with i2c but the audio data (and possibly RDS) is sent to the chip using a proprietary link (DRI)
22:31:39pamaurythe imx233 datasheet has no doc for it but fortunately the stmp36xx datasheet has
22:32:40rasherbluebrother: that's not the problem though, as far as I can tell
22:33:34bertrikpamaury, ah yes, I noticed that there wasn't an analog out and thought it was i2s instead
22:33:50pamauryno, it's called dri but I guess it's similar
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22:34:54pamauryI'll try to send a few commands to the stfm1000 asap
22:35:38pamaurystrangely I haven't found any CE/power pin for it, so perhaps it's always on
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23:11:58bluebrotherrasher: yes, but that revision thing will break with git hashes, so it's yet another problem :)
23:12:56rasherI added a check on the theme site so it only does the check if the revision is numeric (I figure the odds of a numeric git hash that is also lover than 26000 is low)
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