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#rockbox log for 2012-03-10

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00:40:24skx`good night all
00:40:39skx`a little question
00:40:47skx`whats the advantage of installing emcore?
00:41:06skx`or is emcore included with the rockbox install?
00:41:09[7]on which device?
00:41:19bertrikdidn't we have some mechanism to update the lcd frame buffer again after the lcd wakes up from deep sleep?
00:41:53saratogayou mean in a plugin?
00:42:35skx`[7]: nano 2g
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00:43:14[7]well, mostly a bit faster boot, and some features that are mostly relevant for developers
00:43:22bertrikno, in general, for targets where the lcd frame buffer stops being updated in one of the power saving modes
00:43:50bertrikI'm wondering this because I suspect the lcd framebuffer update to cause interference on the clip+ radio
00:44:26saratogadon't the individual screens update the frame buffer at some fixed rate depending on waht they're doing?
00:44:50skx`[7]: thanks
00:44:55saratogai vaguely remember reviewing a patch many years ago that changed the WPS and filetree screens to not update the frame buffer when the screen was off
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05:31:25Mirmy fuze refuses to connect properly with my computer.... i cant see the music that was on it before it was flashed with rockbox
05:31:37Miractualy in rockbox mode it wont connect at all
05:31:47Mirand in sansa mode i cant see the music files
05:34:02Miri dont see ##MUSIC#
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08:36:27Mirthere is something not right about my fuze's partitions
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08:36:54Mirhow in the hell is there a netware partition on my fuze ;>>
08:38:08*Mir wonders if this is why he cannot find the elusive hidden music folder with the useless tracks of crappy music
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09:03:12funmanMir: superfloppy
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10:21:05kugelbertrik: yes
10:21:41kugelregister to LCD_EVENT_ACTIVATION
10:25:13bertrikthanks kugel
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11:30:49frank__Hello. Currently trying to install RB on a Sansa Clip+. RockboxUtility -> QuickStart -> Complete Installation. Aborts at theme installation, complaing about a network error. Logfile says something about "internal server error". How to proceed?
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11:35:05bertrikSomething's wrong with the theme server
11:36:35frank__bertrik, thanks, that's what i guessed. question is, how should i proceed? maybe try a minimal installation?
11:37:14k4tfishhi, has someone a link to the sansa e200v2 firmware?
11:37:58bertrikfrank__, yes, you could try that and do a manual install of the themes by downloading a theme zip file and extracting it to your player
11:40:28frank__bertrik, thanks for the suggestion. minimal install completed successfully, will now go to look for a theme file.
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13:24:28pixelmawtf - I got some of the dev ml mails up to 40-50 times :\
13:26:18pixelmaall from addresses
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13:58:26pixelmathose seem to be constantly resent (or received). For the last 30 minutes I got another 2 duplicates of 2 different already received mails. Would anyone have an idea how this can happen?
13:59:19pixelmathings started to go wrong on the 1st of March
14:02:14funmancan you paste a full mail with headers?
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14:08:25pixelmathere are email addresses in the header, would pasting those be wise?
14:08:48TheSevenleap year bug at google? :)
14:09:15funmanpixelma: we are all subscribed to public mailing lists so our emails are already known to spammers
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14:28:08CIA-44Commit 3448f5b in rockbox by Marcin Bukat: Mark MPIO HD300 as stable in tools/
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14:29:57gevaertswodz: congratulations!
14:30:24wodzI'am just cloning www repo
14:32:07CIA-443448f5b build result: All green
14:32:09gevaertswodz: www uses some sort of template system. The file you need to change is index.t
14:32:24wodzI know :-)
14:32:31gevaertsOK :)
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14:34:22wodzI can't push to www.
14:34:56CIA-44Commit fe88211 in www by Marcin Bukat: Move MPIO HD300 to stable
14:35:08wodznevermind I am dead stupid
14:35:33wodzBagder: Can I ask for www update?
14:36:42wodzbluebrother^: What needs to be done in order to RbUtil support MPIO HD300 by default?
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14:54:39funmanwodz: did you look at gcc's unwinder? (unwind.h)
14:56:52wodzfunman: Isn't it the same as what is in gdb?
14:57:19funmanNo idea
14:57:43funmanI just noticed its existence while looking at backtrace() on android
14:58:40wodzGenerally all other implementations I saw was massively bigger than what we have now (but more accurate on the other hand)
14:59:20funmanthe interface at least looks non trivial
14:59:49wodzthat too
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15:01:06wodzAnyone have an idea why putting arm core into sleep works with cache disabled and hangs with cache on?
15:01:46wodzdo I need to flush cache lines before sleeping?
15:08:00wodzHmm, how do I know if core is really put into sleep?
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15:11:26funmanuse an amplifier to hear the snores :)
15:11:34funmanwodz: perhaps measuring power consumption?
15:13:15wodzI guess I need to craft special usb cable for measurements
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15:21:29JulienWjust installed latest version 3.10 on a Sansa Clip+, and when I plug in the USB cable, the normal Rockbox interface boots up and the computer (tried both Linux and Windows) doesn't mount the disk
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15:22:06lebelliumJulienW: it's normal
15:22:16lebelliuminstall the latest build or wait for the version 3.11 :)
15:22:42JulienWwhen is expected 3.11 ? :)
15:23:06lebelliumnext sunday I guess.?
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15:23:41JulienWok that's fine ! in the mean time I learned my girlfriend how to boot the old firmware anyway ;)
15:24:20JulienWso the bug is known, that's good, thanks :)
15:24:50lebelliumit's not a bug, it's juste that in v3.10 the USB is not enable yet
15:25:58JulienWok, so the bug is maybe that the bootloader should not load rockbox when it is USB-powered on ?
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15:30:37JulienWthanks anyway and keep the good work, bye
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19:28:47thomasjfoxdoes the rockbox kernel have a yield() that acts like select() / poll() ?
19:29:21thomasjfox(I need to read from a input device file descriptor)
19:46:09kugelthomasjfox: no
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19:46:40thomasjfoxThen I think a sleeping, linux native thread will do
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19:56:28Mirfunman: what do you mean?
19:56:44*Mir looks at his SuperFloppy USB drive
19:57:05*Mir looks at his Imation Zip USB drive
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20:14:22james23Hi, my Sansa Clip Zip did the 'freezing at scanning disk' thing, and I plugged it into my computer to back up my files. My USB cord is not really the best, and it flaked out in the middle of a transfer. I tried reconnecting it, and it will not turn on, or do anything really. What happened?
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20:15:27benedikt93Mir: superfloppy means that there's no partition table, just a file system, which I guess is intended
20:16:38thomasjfoxkugel: I've added pandora hold switch support to RaaA
20:16:47thomasjfoxkugel: Got time for a quick comment on the code?
20:23:08kugelthomasjfox: doesnt it lock the entire device? do apps need to handle it?
20:23:33kugelbtw you can use gerrit if you desire a code review
20:23:53thomasjfoxkugel: It's just a key, apps need to handle it themselves
20:24:31thomasjfox(actually the hardware/kernel wise implementation of the hold button sucks as it sends 50 key events a second...)
20:27:17kugeland you can't read it through normal sdl keyevents?
20:27:46thomasjfoxNo, it's not mapped :(
20:27:57thomasjfoxSomeone messed this up
20:28:42thomasjfoxI could patch SDL and provide a patch to upstream. Though that should only be the second option
20:28:44kugelthomasjfox: IIRC sdl passes through raw keys too even if they're not mapped
20:29:19thomasjfoxkugel: I hooked a debug function into rockbox's button handler right after receiving the event from SDL.
20:29:27thomasjfoxIt didn't send an event at all
20:30:27thomasjfoxOr maybe it sent one with an key code of zero, I'm not sure right now
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20:37:53kugelthomasjfox: what about generating a custom sdl event and send it to the button loop?
20:39:10thomasjfoxkugel: That would also work. Though I need to keep the internal key state, too as the key gets sent all the time until it's unlocked.
20:39:36thomasjfoxI don't want to flood the button loop with events
20:42:40thomasjfoxIt might be even easier to just use the 'h' key for hold and be done with it. That code already exists in the SDL port.
20:42:57thomasjfoxI'll ask the folks on the pandora board if the could live with that.
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20:46:56thomasjfoxkugel: Gotta run. Thanks for the feedback
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22:01:08james23Hi. My clip zip did the "freezing at 'scanning disk'" thing. I plugged it into my computer to back it up and format it, but the USB cord is kinda flaky, and it quit on me in the middle of the transfer. It won't turn on, I've pressed the power button for at last 5 minutes.
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22:04:27james23What should I do?
22:11:09funmanMir: superfloppy = whole disk as one FAT partition -> no partition table
22:15:23bertrikjames23, sorry to hear that. The long power button press (20 sec or so) should make it power off, then a short press should power it on again.
22:16:11bertrikDo you see any activity on the PC when you plug it in (USB connection sound, or entries in /var/log/syslog for example)?
22:18:30james23sorry, I was preoccupied. No, I see no activity on the player or my pc. It's plugged in right now, in fact.
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22:21:12bertrikAre you on linux or windows?
22:21:46bertrikCan you try plugging it out, holding the power button for 20 seconds, then plug it back in directly after that?
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22:23:04funmanunfortunately this happened to me only once 2 years ago or something; i wish there was a reproducible way to put the players in this state
22:24:15bertrikfunman, you resolved it by unsoldering the battery?
22:24:31bertrikI consider soldering the very very last resort
22:27:44james23And I will try. One moment..
22:28:13james23Pressed it for 30 seconds, no response.
22:28:44funmanbertrik: no, just waiting for battery to empty
22:29:37bertrikjames23, there is no guaranteed procedure to get it out of this state I think
22:30:04bertrikor perhaps, like funman suggests, just wait until the battery empties
22:30:43bertrikbut did you see anything appear in syslog when you plugged it in?
22:30:43james23It just turned on, I pressed the power button again.
22:31:26james23It's stuck on scanning disk again
22:31:39james23And I'm kind of a noob.
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22:59:03kugelalright, my dynamic lcd changes begin to shape up nicely
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23:02:51kugelthe non-skin areas basically Just Work. I modified cabbiev2 320x480 to also worth with a bit less height but it's still limited
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23:45:29bluebrotherlooks like I finally have a rpm for the cross compiler working on Fedora :)
23:46:29bluebrothertoo bad I don't have a cable around to test the created binary
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