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#rockbox log for 2012-03-22

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00:03:16KiwiCamWhat's the difference between Shuffle in the %mm tag and %ps?
00:08:37evilnickKiwiCam: From my reading of the CustomWPS wiki page, %ps returns 's' if Shuffle is enabled, but %mm refers to the repeat mode
00:11:01JdGordonthere is an old patch on fs to get rid of repeat shuffle mode as it is pretty pointless
00:11:31JdGordonlebellium: i suggest setting up a build environment then
00:12:00evilnickJdGordon: How is it pointless?
00:12:17lebelliumnope, I don't have knowledges and time to learn to compile builds on win 7
00:12:35jhMikeSfunman: pong
00:12:36JdGordonevilnick: repeat:on and shuffle:on == repeat shuffle
00:12:57evilnickJdGordon: But does that *re*shuffle the playlist once it's done?
00:13:33evilnickAh, in that case then yes - it seems totally reasonable to remove that!
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00:18:33KiwiCamSo, I can ignore %ps and just use the %mm only?
00:18:48JdGordonthey are two completly speerate settings
00:19:18KiwiCamTwo different Shuffle features?
00:22:43KiwiCam%ps provides an s result if shuffle mode is enabled. And %?mm<|||Shuffle|> also indicates that it's active.
00:23:15JdGordonrepeat: shuffle and shuffle: on are two different settings
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00:25:46KiwiCamThanks. I never use those features, so they're a little obscure for me.
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00:29:03timotimois there a way to get linear playback and random skipping when pushing the next button?
00:29:21KiwiCamSo if Shuffle as in 7.1 is OFF, and Shuffle in Repeat mode is selected, how does that differ from Shuffle being ON and Repeat mode Shuffle also active?
00:29:29timotimoso when i push next i'll end up with a different artist/album, but if i like what i've randomly found, i can just keep listening
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00:40:21KiwiCamI understand it now. Repeat Shuffle just works once for that playlist. Repeat Shuffle keeps reshuffling and repeating indefinitely.
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01:17:53funmanjhMikeS: any insight why this commit broke nano2g usb ?
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01:34:29jhMikeSI'm not at all certain if that SoC has just fallen behind on things
01:37:23[Saint]Ahoy chaps.
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02:03:03jhMikeSfunman: maybe the driver is assuming something because of the fact the call was missing, but now that it's there, it's messing it up?
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02:04:59funmanyeah i bisected it
02:05:14funmanreverting didn't work though but 1/ i could have misreverted 2/ there might be other problems
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02:06:37jhMikeSif it's random like that, maybe alignment?
02:07:46*[Saint__] wonders if someone already explained ipodx to funman
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02:10:13*jhMikeS isn't sure if funman means bisecting worked but revering along didn't (maybe, if the revert was correct)
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02:18:46jhMikeSusb_init_device in usb-nano2g-6g.c is missing a closing brace when ndef HAVE_USB_STACK
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02:33:20funmanjhMikeS: are you reading the first patch ?
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02:35:00funmanjhMikeS: hmm there was an alignement change in the middle of the bisect
02:35:37jhMikeSfunman: I was reading said commit, that was all
02:35:58jhMikeSI just noticed something about the other file while peeking about
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02:41:15funmanjhMikeS: ah i was thinking of another file
02:41:46funmantrue it misses a closing brace
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03:42:54funmanjhMikeS: regardless alignement, this commit does break nano2g - any workaround suggestion?
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03:45:02jhMikeSdid you determine which part? try commenting the "extra" init call?
03:45:48jhMikeSwas that relying on bus reset detect or something?
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03:51:01funmanextra ?
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03:53:54jhMikeSwhat exacltly about that commit makes it not work?
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03:54:34funmanthat's what i'm wondering too
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04:10:25funmanperhaps it changes init sequence? I'm not sure what that change does exactly
04:11:48jhMikeSas I recall, there was in fact a missing usb_enable(true) when NOT using the delayed host detection, which failed to properly start the driver on AMS
04:12:15jhMikeSit should be enabled in order for communication to take place of course :\
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04:23:45funmanjhMikeS: if you have any idea to try please tell so we can release 3.11
04:24:10jhMikeSyou didn't try any random mods to that?
04:24:33jhMikeSdammit, 3.11 coming down to what I do?
04:25:54funmanrandom mods?
04:27:45jhMikeSlike moving the usb_enable elsewhere??
04:27:45funmani tried to revert that one and the change for Freebsd
04:27:57funmannope i didn't read much usb.c
04:28:48[Saint]funman: did you see my ping earlier? Ipodpatcher isn't supposed to allow the flashing of .ipod files to the nano2g, only .ipodx
04:29:03[Saint]Its a bit chicken->egg
04:29:06funmanha ok
04:29:35funmanso i need a cryptx plugin on a nano to crypt a bootloader then install it ?
04:29:40jhMikeSare all #define 's correct?
04:29:54funmanwhich #define ?
04:30:12[Saint]funman: correct. I can do it for you when I get home.
04:30:36[Saint] can install the release, and use the plugin from there.
04:30:41jhMikeSfunman: USB_DETECT_BY_REQUEST isn't defined, correct?
04:30:44funman[Saint]: the current bootloader i have will do the trick i guess; no need to change it
04:30:48funmanjhMikeS: no clue
04:31:03funmangit grep finds no occurence ever in rockbox
04:31:40[Saint]It acts as a viewer in Rockbox, .ipod files can be encrypted on the device.
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04:32:30[Saint]funman: for safety/recovery, I really do recommended using emCORE
04:32:40funmanyeah it could help debugging too
04:32:42jhMikeSfirmware/export/config.h lines 798-846
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04:32:58funmanjhMikeS: eh sorry, i had that commit reverted
04:33:23[Saint]funman: it certainly could, yes. The emCORE console is pretty powerful.
04:33:38funmanjhMikeS: it is indeed not defined
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04:36:09[Saint]Oh...I misread. Your nano is booting, right. Then sure, you can leave it as it is, hut you can encrypt your own bootloader from within Rockbox also by opening an .ipod file with the crypto plugin.
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04:36:50[Saint]I didn't think it was booting currently and you needed the git HEAD Rockbox bootloader for some reason.
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04:37:45[Saint]But for recovery, and the fact that the nano2g seems to like to trash its own filesystem regularly, emCORE is probably best.
04:37:55jhMikeSfunman: i've no idea what symptoms are showing
04:38:17[Saint](EMCORE detects when the nano2g tries to trash itself and recovers at boot time)
04:38:41funmanjhMikeS: while (GRSTCTL & GRSTCTL_csftrst); /* Wait for OTG to ack reset */ doesn't return
04:38:59jhMikeShmmmm...infinite loop?
04:39:13jhMikeSwow, mmmm
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04:40:37jhMikeSreverting that commit would cause usb_enable to not be called, which would never reach that
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04:41:37funmannot sure i did the revert correctly (conflict)
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04:50:29jhMikeSfunman: have a patch of your revert in particular that does work?
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04:51:11jhMikeSthe code is very different in that commit to what is there now
04:59:51jhMikeSanything with PCGCCTL not being set 0 to turn on the phy clock?
05:00:14funmanTheSeven: talked about that reg
05:00:42funmanwhich driver changes are needed to define USB_DETECT_BY_REQUEST ?
05:00:42jhMikeSin usb_init_device it's don't first
05:01:07jhMikeS*it doesn't
05:01:49jhMikeSnone really. lemme refresh
05:02:08jhMikeSit was more a case of the bus reset method not being in the way of things
05:04:42jhMikeSonly things that must be guaranteed is that the audio buffer isn't required until storage is activated
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05:05:55jhMikeSyeah, bus reset was in fact more of a "has to add something" than this, which merely informs the rest of the system to enter storage mode, blocking disk access until all threads respond
05:06:42jhMikeSso, just make sure USB_DETECT_BY_REQUEST is defined
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05:21:34funmani removed /* FIXME */ && CONFIG_CPU == AS3525v2 , and USB screen doesn't appear (it only charges and there's no usb device visible)
05:24:12jhMikeSummm, don't use the STATUS_BY_EVENT define
05:24:19jhMikeSit's not set up for that afaict
05:28:38funmanwithout it it deadlocks
05:28:51jhMikeSprobably in the same spot
05:30:27jhMikeSmaybe the bit is wrong on that device?
05:31:16jhMikeSthat's why I wanted to see the revert and see what it changes
05:34:18funmani don't have it anymore
05:34:38jhMikeScan't reconstruct?
05:34:42*Mir pokes a funman
05:35:00funmanyeah i guess i'll do that - i'm giving up for tonight though. thanks for the help
05:35:34*jhMikeS suspects GRSTCTL_csftrst is the wrong bit on that HW
05:36:22funmanhum it wasn't changed?
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05:38:46jhMikeSdon't think so
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06:35:04FrenchVerbsAre you guys working on supporting dual booting on the iPod classic?
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08:34:45jhMikeSFrenchVerbs: Doesn't it work already? Or just not for you?
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08:46:37wodzdualboot on classic is not supported
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09:00:59wodzI made new benchmarks of rk27xx:
09:01:06wodzthis at least looks consistent
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15:14:48funmanZagor: I would like the fund to pay for my nano2g
15:15:26Zagorno problem
15:16:05funmanit cost 40 $CAD, just tell me what you need from me in PM
15:16:57idakAre there any opinions on my g#152 ?
15:18:10idakOr please test it.
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16:33:00Mirfunman: want an ipod nano 1st gen?
16:36:02funmanMir: nope
16:39:19Mirhow about 3rd
16:39:26Miror the gen before the camera
16:42:55funmani have all i need thanks, i just needed the USB hardware
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16:48:51Mirif i run across some young 4 year old with one i will steal it from them and send it to you
16:49:12Mir4 year olds should not have ipods
16:50:13gevaertsMir: could you *please* try to stay on topic here?
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18:38:06CIA-44Commit 313034d in rockbox by Marcin Bukat: revert changes in test_disk.c introduced by accident in r30459
18:40:53CIA-44313034d build result: All green
18:41:17CIA-44Commit b0df323 in rockbox by Marcin Bukat: Don't hardcode cpu frequency in test_codec
18:43:58CIA-44b0df323 build result: 4 errors, 1 warnings (Marcin Bukat committed)
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19:03:20n1sit seems htole64 is comming from some sysytem header only in some systems
19:08:12n1sis ist supposed to be in a standard header?
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19:13:10n1sseems to be expected to come from endian.h
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19:17:05n1sso, who runs mobanda-Rondom ?
19:17:18gevaertsRondom, presumably
19:17:27n1snever heard oh him/her
19:18:00n1sit does have a rather old gcc but i don't think the endian.h stuff is very new
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19:27:46n1shmm, my windows partition is full
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20:45:11CIA-44Commit 58e097d in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: android: Add facility for java code to wait native code to be ready.
20:47:37CIA-4458e097d build result: All green
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21:00:32saratogawodz: what caused those weird benchmark results?
21:01:40funmandoes ECP use vlc or vls?
21:01:46funmansorry wrong channel
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21:05:50CIA-44Commit 6e6f0c6 in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: Redraw simplelist if/when necessary-
21:08:23CIA-446e6f0c6 build result: All green
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21:35:21megal0maniacGetting voltage spikes when changing volume on my fuze+. Anyone familiar with this?..
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23:07:04wodzsaratoga: See b0df323 - basically test_codec used hardcoded cpu freq values to calculate results. This means that roloing() build with changed clock settings will yield wrong results.
23:07:16saratogaah ok
23:07:28saratogayes i knew that, i usually changed them manually when testing
23:08:20wodzrebuilding plugin by hand everytime is rather irritating
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23:17:52saratogayes, this is better
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23:26:11FLACvesthello, I've managed to do SansaAMS recovery on a bricked Clip Plus, and I can not for the life of me figure out the next steps on how to put the clippa.bin file onto the now empty partition of the clip plus. I don't understand dd, I've tried for 2 hours to wrap my head around it. I'm not sure this is the proper IRC channel, if not I apologize, I would appreciate greatly some assistance or at the very least a pointer to the right di
23:27:29CIA-44Commit 901521d in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: android: lcd_update/_rect() changes
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23:30:02CIA-44901521d build result: 4 errors, 1 warnings (Thomas Martitz committed)
23:31:07wodzFLACvest: what in dd syntax you don't understand?
23:31:35FLACvestthe whole shebang. dd is like 100% farsi to me
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23:32:00FLACvesti don't understand how to point i t to the file, or the disk
23:32:27wodzman dd is pretty clear in this regard
23:32:58FLACvestyeah but its a user failure kind of issue, iirc
23:33:22FLACvesthave you done the dd commands before? could you parrot them to me?
23:33:51FLACvestim feeling rather feeble after all of this
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23:34:39wodzI wouldn't be so brave to fiddle with dd without understanding the syntax. This is the kind of command which can literally destroy your system. Don't mess with it if you don't fill strong enough. Thats the fair advice
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23:35:56FLACvestokay. its dangerous even for a ubuntu live cd? and transferring a firmware file to a bricked clip plus?
23:36:36FLACvestthat is the only thing i am trying to accomplish
23:36:55wodzIf you have *any* hard disk connected with the data you care about it is dangerous
23:37:14FLACvestah, yes. i definitely see the danger now
23:37:32FLACvestit can rewrite and erase hdds then?
23:37:43gevaertsThat's the point, yes
23:37:51FLACvestah, gotcha
23:37:57gevaertsWithout that it would be useless for unbricking stuff :)
23:37:59FLACvestuse with care
23:39:33FLACvestso, since i obviously need to rtfm about dd, is there a chance to re-do the jump of those pads on the "unbricking" the SansaAMS device with a wire in the future if I abandon my efforts today?
23:39:56FLACvestI had thought it was a one shot deal
23:40:42gevaertsThat can be redone as often as needed
23:41:02gevaertsAs long as you don't short the wrong pads and fry it, of course
23:41:17FLACvestoh awesome! thanks so much you guys. I think I'll go wise up and try again in the future when I'm better prepared.
23:41:28FLACvestHave a great day
23:41:56FLACvestI'll be careful about the pins, and avoid shorting out the other pads
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23:47:44CIA-44Commit 2e03c2a in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: android: Remove hack not needed anymore (since 58e097d).
23:49:00CIA-44Commit 5513c6d in rockbox by Marcin Bukat: rk27xx: implement system_init()
23:50:08CIA-442e03c2a build result: 4 errors, 1 warnings (Thomas Martitz committed)
23:51:24wodzwe should ban mobanda-Rondom probably
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23:52:22CIA-445513c6d build result: 4 errors, 1 warnings (Marcin Bukat committed)
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