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| 02:14:10 | KiwiCam | I gather my Clips partition table is corrupted and that I need to run sudo /sbin/fsck.vfat -r /dev/sde to fix the partition table on the clip. I get this message "There are differences between boot sector and its backup." some differences and three options. 1) Copy original to backup2) Copy backup to original3) No action I gather 2 is the option to take. Or, is none of this correct? |
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| 03:13:15 | funman | KiwiCam: fsck -wy |
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| 03:22:06 | KiwiCam | funman: Thanks. I'll give that a go. |
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| 04:01:33 | [Saint] | funman: hows the nn2g USB stuff coming along (or not)? |
| 04:01:45 | [Saint] | Any luck with reverting to a state where the driver was functional? |
| 04:03:41 | funman | [Saint]: not |
| 04:03:49 | funman | (see logs) |
| 04:04:14 | * | [Saint] wonders what version his are running... |
| 04:05:15 | [Saint] | r31646 (ancient, I know) works here. |
| 04:06:25 | [Saint] | (emCORE r859) |
| 04:08:03 | funman | emcore doesn't matter |
| 04:09:12 | [Saint] | Well, if it helps at all, the version mentioned above mounts successfully in Windows and Ubuntu |
| 04:09:28 | [Saint] | (not only mounts, but transfers too) |
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| 04:16:12 | [Saint] | I wish I could be of more help, but this driver business is way too low level for myself. I got lost *very* quickly poking around in the associated code. |
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| 04:51:24 | funman | now the problems seem to come from driver and usb core interaction |
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| 05:05:56 | * | [Saint] wonders why we don't have countless people flooding us with reports of this. |
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| 05:06:37 | [Saint] | The nn2g is one of the most powerful, and readily available targets...it certainly *used* to be very popular. |
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| 05:17:29 | * | [Saint] summons JdGordon briefly. |
| 05:17:44 | [Saint] | Seems there's some demons in the scrolling magic, sire. |
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| 05:19:24 | [Saint] | I note the quickscreen apparently doesn't dig scrolling lines (noted on the forum), and yesterday, a user reported that data related tags refuse to scroll (ie. %s%casome_text_long_enough_to_make_it_scroll doesn't actually scroll at all) |
| 05:19:40 | jhMikeS | He's hiding in his castle with the crenelated embattlements. |
| 05:19:41 | [Saint] | *date related |
| 05:23:13 | [Saint] | Aha... jhMikeS, just the man. |
| 05:24:18 | [Saint] | Did you, or did you not, implement the base for the keyclick/beep magic to output more than just clicls/beeps, or did I imagine this? |
| 05:25:39 | [Saint] | I seem to recall you putting down the groundwork for UI sound effects during your playback engine (and other assorted hackery) rework. |
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| 05:26:32 | jhMikeS | yes, I was screwing around and perhaps more complex sounds would be useful. not just wistling dixie of course. :) |
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| 05:27:26 | jhMikeS | we *could* play wav files and such if we want to enable that sort of thing |
| 05:28:03 | jhMikeS | I spent about all of 20 minutes or so to throw that up in gerrit |
| 05:29:41 | jhMikeS | oh, yes, the idea of sound effect defines I did earlier, which could actually play any sound in principle |
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| 05:30:48 | jhMikeS | it's all pretty superficial. no engine to do it exists at the moment. |
| 05:32:27 | JdGordon | [Saint]: ? |
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| 05:41:14 | [Saint] | JdGordon: apparently date tags (or at the least %ca) borks scrolling now. |
| 05:41:21 | [Saint] | Is this known to you? |
| 05:42:23 | [Saint] | I wasn't sure if the date was classed as "dynamic content" (though I guess it technically is) or not. It definitely *used* to work. |
| 05:43:50 | [Saint] | When I say "now", its not necessarily a recent breakage at all...it could have happened any time in the last two years. :-S |
| 05:50:26 | [Saint] | jhMikeS: the conversation that made me remember that work was almost pure silliness (adding realistic wobble/scratch effects to a record player theme gevaerts was thinking about), but it also made me thing that (especially for RaaA) being able to fire arbitrary sound effects from a theme would be pure awesome. |
| 05:50:41 | [Saint] | A theme could include its own (optional) soundscape then. |
| 05:51:11 | [Saint] | *made me think that |
| 05:52:45 | [Saint] | So, I wanted to question whether or not it was something that actually had some guts in place in the core, something that *could* have some guts in place in the core, or something you dreamt up but never actually got any further with. |
| 05:54:00 | jhMikeS | what format to use? |
| 05:56:54 | [Saint] | My assumption was that it could in theory use any of the supported codecs, but, the cheaper the codec the better one would guess. |
| 05:57:14 | [Saint] | If it caused an obvious stutter it wouldn't be very nice. |
| 05:58:52 | jhMikeS | speex would suck for that, a cheap codec good, but needs to work when music is playing too |
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| 06:01:42 | [Saint] | I imagine some of the lesser targets would struggle trying to play two audio streams if it was already playing a "heavy" codec. |
| 06:01:57 | [Saint] | that would be non-nice. |
| 06:02:06 | jhMikeS | indeed. in the worst case, it's three audio streams if voice is going too |
| 06:03:51 | [Saint] | Aha...right, I forget about voice. |
| 06:11:16 | JdGordon | [Saint]: err... date tags should absolutly be working with scrolling... there was a bug which made me fix that |
| 06:11:25 | JdGordon | does any other dynamic content break scrolling? |
| 06:11:54 | [Saint] | I'll test when I get back in an hour or so. |
| 06:12:33 | [Saint] | I tested with %s%ca-string_that_made_it_long_enough_to_push_outside_the_viewport, and nothing. |
| 06:23:31 | JdGordon | ok, bug me tonight, im busy currently |
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| 06:38:09 | KiwiCam | funman: I'm getting this fsck.ext2: invalid option −− 'w' I see no w option in the Man pages. So this works "sudo fsck.vfat -wy /dev/sdg" (it's /dev/sdg now) and I get this "dosfsck 3.0.9, 31 Jan 2010, FAT32, LFN/FOUND.000 Contains a free cluster (52724). Assuming EOF.Unable to create unique name" Rather than continue to try recover it, can I just reformat? If so, what's the best way? |
| 06:47:35 | [Saint] | KiwiCam: why are you using fsck.ext2 on a FAT filesystem, may I ask? |
| 06:49:32 | [Saint] | And, yes, you're quite right. It *should* spit an error about the -w flag, as fsck.ext* has no idea what this flag is. |
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| 06:49:48 | [Saint] | fsck.vfat however... |
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| 06:53:59 | KiwiCam | [Saint]: I'm not. It's formatted Fat32 |
| 06:54:27 | [Saint] | so why were you trying fsck.ext*? |
| 06:55:15 | [Saint] | you want "mkdosfs -F 32 -I /dev/sd<foo>" btw. |
| 06:55:27 | [Saint] | (to format the filesystem as FAT32 in Linux) |
| 06:55:56 | [Saint] | this may or may not involve installing the dosfstools package. |
| 06:56:19 | [Saint] | (depending on whether or not your distro includes it) |
| 06:56:32 | KiwiCam | Disk Utility says that it's FAT. fdisk -l is reporting it as Unknown |
| 06:57:12 | [Saint] | that still doesn't answer my question as to why you were trying to use fsck.ext* |
| 06:57:41 | [Saint] | I find it pretty hard to believe that fsck.vfat spat an error that fsck.ext* doesn't support -w |
| 06:57:45 | KiwiCam | I didn't I did "sudo fsck -wy /dev/sdg" |
| 06:58:16 | [Saint] | Aha, right. |
| 06:58:26 | [Saint] | So, anyway...yeah. Don't do that ;) |
| 06:58:35 | KiwiCam | Har! |
| 06:59:00 | KiwiCam | I might as well wipe it if I can. mkdosfs.... |
| 06:59:03 | [Saint] | If you really don't care about recovery, and just want to format the thing, the command I listed above will do it. |
| 06:59:21 | KiwiCam | There's nothing on there that I'll be missing. |
| 06:59:35 | [Saint] | If it bitches about dosfstools being missing, feed it "apt-get install dosfstools" |
| 06:59:46 | KiwiCam | Will do. Thanks. |
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| 07:02:29 | [Saint] | There's almost certainly some GUI tool included that will "just work", but, ...meh. |
| 07:11:58 | KiwiCam | I'm comfortable with CLI as long as I have an idea as to what I'm about to do. So, I did an apt-get (it's there) , ran the command, Mount error. Unmounted it, ran it again. Removed it from the USB cable and it "scanning disk". If I reconnect the cable it just goes to scanning disk again. http://pastebin.com/z0CZxEcj |
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| 07:21:35 | [Saint] | Its at this stage where you boot the OF and just give up and use the OF to format itself. |
| 07:23:34 | KiwiCam | OK. Will do. |
| 07:24:33 | [Saint] | when you say "So I unmounted...", what exactly did you do here? |
| 07:24:51 | [Saint] | As far as I can see the system isn't aware of any such device on /sdg |
| 07:25:57 | [Saint] | "umount /dev/sdg/ && mkdosfs -F 32 -I /dev/sdg" should've done it, unless I'm in braindead land. |
| 07:27:00 | KiwiCam | The unmount Icon in Nautulis. What's the key press combo to stop this thing from going into "scanning disk" every time I turn it on? |
| 07:27:19 | [Saint] | There isn't one. |
| 07:27:22 | KiwiCam | Got it |
| 07:27:36 | KiwiCam | Home and Power On did the trick. |
| 07:29:19 | [Saint] | Oh, I thought you were talking about the SanDisk firmware's "refreshing media" screen. |
| 07:29:30 | [Saint] | My mistake. |
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| 09:43:44 | KiwiCam | The firmware is installed, Rockbox is installed. I'm getting a 404 Error when installing the Font pack or themes. |
| 09:45:42 | bluebrother | KiwiCam: release or daily build installed? |
| 09:46:39 | KiwiCam | Daily Build is on the Clip. |
| 09:46:57 | bluebrother | there's a known and already fixed issue |
| 09:47:13 | KiwiCam | Thanks. |
| 09:47:33 | bluebrother | depending on the git hash Rockbox Utility can fail to dxtract the correct string |
| 09:48:11 | bluebrother | either install a different version and thy to get one with a hash that doesn't trigger the problem |
| 09:48:30 | bluebrother | or simply install manually :) |
| 09:49:18 | bluebrother | you ca also try Rockbox Utility from git, but I haven't made binaries for that yet |
| 09:52:54 | KiwiCam | I've already put back my themes and the fontpack and the sounds. I'm happy and good to go. Thanks everyone for your help. I'm sure I'll be back for more. |
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| 10:01:55 | [Saint] | Hummmm....weird. |
| 10:02:30 | [Saint] | The new Nano refuses to charge with an official Apple branded firewire charger and cable. |
| 10:03:10 | [Saint] | It doesn't even acknowledge that anything is inserted in the dock connector. |
| 10:07:00 | [Saint] | Yet, if I use a generic firewire wall-wart, it charges fine. |
| 10:07:26 | [Saint] | ...seems weird to deliberately exclude your own charger with your detection magic. |
| 10:07:56 | [Saint] | (even if it is a LOT older than the device its charging and practically a forgotten format) |
| 10:08:41 | [Saint] | Hmmm...Nano5G won't charge with the firewire charger either. |
| 10:24:42 | KiwiCam | Arrrr. Now the thing won't connect via USB. Just starts Rockbox. However, if I start the Sansa firmware, and then plug it in, it connects to the pc. I can sync music to it via gPodder. If I plugged the USB cable in when it's off, it just goes to the RB File Menu. Plugging it in while using RB, the screen goes dark, but it stays in RB mode. |
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| 10:28:14 | KiwiCam | I can use it though. So, for me it's not a problem. My little sansa. Together again! :) |
| 10:31:50 | [Saint] | That behaviour sounds quite broken... |
| 10:32:42 | [Saint] | Did you install a release, or current build, KiwiCam? |
| 10:33:46 | [Saint] | Hum...must be a current build (stoopid me).' |
| 10:35:19 | KiwiCam | Yes [Saint] Current build. |
| 10:35:25 | KiwiCam | No. |
| 10:35:48 | KiwiCam | I've just installed in 20 secs ago. It's working. |
| 10:36:36 | [Saint] | Did you reinstall from scratch, or just renew the /.rockbox dir? |
| 10:37:12 | [Saint] | the behaviour you describe is very non-normal. |
| 10:37:18 | KiwiCam | Put it this way. I had it on current. Put 3.10 on it. Then current just now. |
| 10:37:45 | [Saint] | That doesn't answer the question at all. |
| 10:38:12 | KiwiCam | It's working now. |
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| 10:41:55 | KiwiCam | Excellent. All is good now. It was also reinstalling the Sansa firmware on a couple of the initial restarts into Sansa mode. It's not doing it at all now. |
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| 11:36:39 | JdGordon | [Saint]: ok, whats the issue with the clock? |
| 11:46:06 | JdGordon | hmm, poo! |
| 11:48:40 | JdGordon | scroling + dynamic content is well and truly broken |
| 11:52:35 | JdGordon | whats the easiest way to make sure plugins are not compiled for a build? (i need codecs though so make bin is no good) |
| 11:53:05 | gevaerts | ENABLEDPLUGINS in the generated makefile I think |
| 11:54:54 | * | JdGordon lols at his idiotic self |
| 11:55:13 | JdGordon | http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=commit;h=13f1b08388fa2896ebdc0e52920b23a1e9703c40 apparently didnt work |
| 11:57:10 | JdGordon | gevaerts: apparently not |
| 11:57:51 | kugel | JdGordon: "make bin codecs" :) |
| 11:58:19 | gevaerts | kugel: he probably also needs to install :) |
| 11:58:32 | kugel | "make install NODEPS=" |
| 11:58:35 | JdGordon | omfg :p |
| 11:59:17 | gevaerts | Oh, sneaky! |
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| 13:28:48 | CIA-44 | Commit 9445d46 in rockbox by Jonathan Gordon: skin_engine: fix scrolling lines with dynamic content |
| 13:30:35 | gevaerts | JdGordon: 3.11 material? |
| 13:31:24 | CIA-44 | 9445d46 build result: 23 errors, 3 warnings (Jonathan Gordon committed) |
| 13:31:54 | gevaerts | ignore that |
| 13:32:01 | JdGordon | oh good :) |
| 13:32:02 | gevaerts | Not your fault |
| 13:33:24 | CIA-44 | Commit bda7ba1 in rockbox v3.11 by Jonathan Gordon: skin_engine: fix scrolling lines with dynamic content |
| 13:33:35 | JdGordon | I'm really surprised that wasnt picked up ealier |
| 13:33:55 | JdGordon | i.e back in decemeber when it was supposed to work :p |
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| 13:34:50 | JdGordon | I can only asssume git-svn did some wierdness because something that obvious should not have been commited unless I knew it was working |
| 13:34:54 | JdGordon | anyway, whatever |
| 13:35:13 | JdGordon | gevaerts: hwat do you tinhk about a tag to get a random value? |
| 13:35:55 | gevaerts | JdGordon: I'm not against it, but it needs some thinking. When should the value change? |
| 13:36:42 | JdGordon | yeah, it could be static and then with a bit of magic you could have it change every second |
| 13:36:51 | JdGordon | or just chuck in a timeout value |
| 13:37:32 | gevaerts | The one case I know of where it was wanted is lebellium's theme, where it should change per track |
| 13:38:17 | * | gevaerts will have a go at making %ss work from the right side later |
| 13:38:34 | JdGordon | that should be dead simple |
| 13:38:49 | * | gevaerts nods |
| 13:38:56 | lebellium | hello guys |
| 13:39:07 | gevaerts | For the random tag, maybe a thread in feature ideas to collect use cases? |
| 13:39:12 | lebellium | I was about to ask lorenzo to compile a build with the random value patch :) |
| 13:40:03 | lebellium | and I see you're talking about that |
| 13:41:47 | gevaerts | The problem with a static is that it won't work really nicely if you use more of them |
| 13:42:49 | JdGordon | gevaerts: well each individual tag is a different value |
| 13:42:59 | gevaerts | Ah, indeed |
| 13:44:38 | gevaerts | When do SKIN_REFRESH_STATIC tags refresh? |
| 13:45:17 | JdGordon | if the subline changes, and on track change |
| 13:45:24 | JdGordon | or when the viewport becomes visible |
| 13:46:31 | gevaerts | OK, so for lebellium's case SKIN_REFRESH_STATIC would work, except it would also change when leaving/entering the wps, but I'd say that's minor |
| 13:48:15 | JdGordon | no it wont |
| 13:48:22 | JdGordon | it will keep the value it gets when it starts |
| 13:48:31 | JdGordon | oh, you mean wps->menu>wps? |
| 13:48:34 | gevaerts | yes |
| 13:48:52 | JdGordon | thast a feature :) |
| 13:51:11 | gevaerts | So the question is, do people also want a DYNAMIC random, and if so, is it doable/easy to do that with a parameter or does it need a separate tag? |
| 13:51:29 | JdGordon | the other thing I've been working on is g#191 |
| 13:51:30 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #191 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,191 : skin_engine: Use a smart consistant skin refresh rate for all screens by Jonathan Gordon (changes/91/191/1) |
| 13:51:39 | JdGordon | some opinions on that wouldd be nice |
| 13:52:02 | JdGordon | no reason we couldnt do static unless the optinoal timeout param is given |
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| 13:54:15 | gevaerts | JdGordon: does g#191 still take peak meters into account? |
| 13:54:16 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #191 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,191 : skin_engine: Use a smart consistant skin refresh rate for all screens by Jonathan Gordon (changes/91/191/1) |
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| 13:57:50 | JdGordon | gevaerts: i tinhk so |
| 13:58:23 | gevaerts | It looks fairly straightforward to me, and it seems like a good idea |
| 13:58:50 | gevaerts | The hypothetical skinning guide should probably warn about refreshing too often on menu screens though |
| 13:59:57 | JdGordon | i did a batt bench *ages* ago and there was no realworld difference between 25Hz and 0Hz updates |
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| 14:00:10 | JdGordon | it was after the major rework though |
| 14:02:41 | gevaerts | I very vaguely remember doing a battery bench in early 2008 on c200 where I noticed a significant difference between menu screen and the then default wps (with peakmeters) |
| 14:03:18 | gevaerts | We don't refresh the screen when backlight is off now though I think on that player, but on mono screens it may still be noticeable |
| 14:03:26 | gevaerts | So "needs retesting" :) |
| 14:03:56 | JdGordon | and that is probably when the skin was being parsed at refresh time |
| 14:04:15 | * | gevaerts nods |
| 14:21:03 | * | JdGordon wonders if anyone else thinks it is stupid the default viewport ignores the statusbar setting in the wps |
| 14:21:20 | JdGordon | i.e its at (0,0) when it should be at (0,8) if the inbuilt bar is enabled |
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| 14:33:15 | lebellium | JdGordon: Lorenzo compiled me a build with your random value patch. What's the tag for it or how to use it? |
| 14:33:48 | JdGordon | %?xx<some|set|of|items|to|randomly|choose|from> |
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| 14:34:48 | lebellium | thanks, I'll try that :) |
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| 14:50:58 | dfkt_ | is the supported "ipod video" the one that's usually sold on ebay as "ipod classic 5th gen"? |
| 14:53:25 | gevaerts | I wouldn't bet on "ipod classic 5th gen" always meaning the same thing, to be honest |
| 14:53:44 | dfkt_ | yes, it seems people have different opinions on version names |
| 14:54:13 | gevaerts | 5th gen non-nano is the video. The problem is that classic strictly speaking is explicitely *not* the video |
| 14:54:54 | dfkt_ | yes, the ones apple explicitely calls "classic" seem to be the ones after the ipod video |
| 14:55:03 | * | gevaerts nods |
| 14:55:31 | lebellium | JdGordon: the random value tags seems to work. I tried that %?xx<%xd(Aa)|%xd(Ab)|%xd(Ac)|%xd(Ad)|%xd(Ae)> but actually that's not what I wanted to do hehe. That changes the pic unceasingly while I want it just to change when it skips to next track |
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| 14:58:32 | gevaerts | lebellium: that's exactly what we were discussing, actually :) |
| 14:58:45 | JdGordon | [Saint]: I'm apparently insanely bored...! http://pastebin.com/YXAgnhV9 |
| 14:59:36 | lebellium | gevaerts: ah :D so as of today it's not yet possible to do what I want? |
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| 15:02:28 | [Saint] | JdGordon: put it up on Google docs and send me a collaboration invite. |
| 15:02:46 | JdGordon | I want to flush it out first :) |
| 15:02:59 | JdGordon | I want to make sure i get what I think are best practices in :D |
| 15:03:24 | JdGordon | This is the sort of document whihc we should do, seperate to the manual (or as a proper appendix/chapter) |
| 15:04:05 | [Saint] | Oh, right, so you don't want me tainting it with my horrible coding style, huh? :p |
| 15:05:53 | gevaerts | lebellium: look for DYNAMIC in that patch, and replace it with STATIC, and it will work for you. The exact syntax (and tag name) may still change though |
| 15:06:20 | JdGordon | [Saint]: got it in one :) |
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| 15:06:35 | JdGordon | [Saint]: does that read OK? |
| 15:06:43 | JdGordon | (what i pasted so far) |
| 15:07:25 | [Saint] | JdGordon: it does, yes. Pastebin kinda fudged the formatting, but it reads well, yes. |
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| 15:08:13 | lebellium | gevaerts: ok I'll see if lorenzo is willing to compile a new build again for me. Otherwise I'll wait for the final version of this patch |
| 15:08:54 | gevaerts | lebellium: just set up a build environment and be done with it! |
| 15:10:19 | [Saint] | Amen. It'll take ~30 mins. |
| 15:10:49 | [Saint] | Then you'll never have to cry to anyone to patch and compile you a binary ever again. |
| 15:12:09 | lebellium | as I already told JdGorgon, I don't have time and knowledges for that. Moreover I use win 7, not linux. |
| 15:12:50 | gevaerts | It's not exactly hard. You need to look up 4 commands I think |
| 15:12:52 | [Saint] | *cough* Wubi *cough* |
| 15:13:09 | gevaerts | And download a VM image if you don't feel like setting up things yourself |
| 15:14:19 | [Saint] | If you were particularly willing to kick your own ass...you could even use CygWin. |
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| 15:15:51 | lebellium | I only use nice interface-based Windows programs. Hate cmd. And don't want to use linux :D |
| 15:16:43 | [Saint] | Well, then, continue to rely on others for binaries...then. (but, its a sad state of affairs) |
| 15:17:23 | JdGordon | [Saint]: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AET-fqpBw8I5PzVdt_9DnxLwWkDNL2GQzHi-4gDvJ-I/edit |
| 15:17:58 | [Saint] | Considering how easy it is to set up a development environment, and how insanely easy it is to set up a VM or loopback filesystem image (ala Wubi), it really is a shame you're so against doing this for yourself. |
| 15:20:10 | [Saint] | In all honesty, writing a theme for Rockbox is more time and effort (and requires more knowledge) than compiling Rockbox. |
| 15:21:37 | [Saint] | The wiki outlines exactly what one needs to do to a ridiculous extent, its pretty much "download a few things, then c/p a couple of lines". With a decent connection you can have it done in 30 mins without having to understand anything you're actually doing. :) |
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| 15:44:48 | [Saint] | JdGordon: "but just about all tags work equally well in any screen (with some obvious exceptions.)" ...the exceptions aren't really that obvious. |
| 15:45:12 | [Saint] | In fact, some of the tags that don't work seem to be for absolutely no reason to the outside observer :) |
| 15:45:29 | [Saint] | (ffwd/rwd for example) |
| 15:45:42 | [Saint] | There's few enough tags to be able to list them, IMO. |
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| 15:46:25 | JdGordon | touch controls are completly seperate |
| 15:46:48 | JdGordon | I was thinking more like the recording screen specific tags or whetver |
| 15:47:12 | lebellium | [Saint]: I guess it's rather a matter of laziness :) |
| 15:47:32 | [Saint] | there's no real reason why they shouldn't work in an .sbs either though, is there? |
| 15:48:33 | JdGordon | yes, it isnt implemented yet |
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| 15:50:23 | [Saint] | It should be noted that the alignment tags are mirrored if the viewport is flipped using the "if RTL tag" |
| 15:51:21 | [Saint] | (that's not actually a well known fact, I don't think) |
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| 16:24:54 | akavel | hi! is it possible to skip the "Scanning disk..." phase when starting rockbox? It freezes for me... |
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| 16:39:22 | [Saint] | hi! is it possible to wait more than 6 minutes before deciding no one will answer...? |
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| 16:55:07 | fondueboy | Hi I have a small question |
| 16:57:07 | fondueboy | I cant find any information on the Rockbox website about if you can use media organizers like Banshee with the Rockbox firmware? |
| 16:57:55 | gevaerts | Rockbox doesn't care much about where you put your files, If those tools can work with a standard USB storage device, it will work |
| 16:58:00 | fondueboy | So yeah the question is can one use apps like Banshee or iTunes with Rockbox? |
| 16:58:12 | fondueboy | Ah ok thank you :) |
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| 17:00:24 | fondueboy | Good bye every one and thank you for the quick answer :D |
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| 18:44:00 | kugel | what's the difference between "gcc -o FOO foo.c -labc" and "gcc -o FOO foo.c libabc.a"? |
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| 19:30:30 | bertrik | does the "recently added" feature in the database require anything specific? |
| 19:30:39 | bertrik | like "gather runtime data" or something like that? |
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| 19:30:58 | bertrik | It doesn't work for me |
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| 20:03:30 | pixelma | bertrik: yes, I believe it needs 'gather runtime data' enabled. This should also be in the manual and/or wiki ;) |
| 20:04:51 | bertrik | the odd thing is that the recently added list has some older "recently added" albums, but not the very latest ones |
| 20:05:09 | bertrik | and I couldn't find any mention of the 'gather runtime data' requirement in the manual |
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| 20:09:36 | pixelma | ok, I may have a look later |
| 20:13:45 | bertrik | I think it's possible to do a database dump, I might try that |
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| 20:53:50 | pamaury | hmm, very strange, the powermgmt init sequence produces extremely weird results on the zen xfi2 but works flawlessly on the fuze+ :-/ |
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| 21:03:14 | fml | Does anybody know why idak left rockbox (he abandoned two changes on gerrit with a depressed message)? |
| 21:05:04 | bertrik | the "commitid" for the tracks that are not showing up in "Recently added" is 0, while it is > 0 for other tracks |
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| 21:09:01 | KiwiCam | [Saint]: Is it worth clarifying the X & Y pixels? X being across the screen, from left to right, with pixel 0 on the left. Something like that? Y from top to bottom. |
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| 21:10:26 | bertrik | I suspect a bug |
| 21:12:22 | bertrik | fml, no I don't, didn't notice actually |
| 21:14:06 | fml | bertrik: see g#152 and g#151 |
| 21:14:07 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #152 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,152 : Add support for HIDDEN Attribute of FAT filesystem by Akio Idehara (changes/52/152/7) |
| 21:15:28 | funman | fml: it might mean he's busy doing other things with the spring coming |
| 21:18:25 | fml | funman: I understand the message the other way |
| 21:19:47 | kugel | I understood that he thought we wouldn't care about his work |
| 21:27:59 | ej0rge | Hey, i have a cf modded iriver h120 here that seems to be occasionally hanging on disk access |
| 21:28:09 | ej0rge | any ideas? |
| 21:29:10 | fml | kugel: that was my impression too |
| 21:29:14 | bertrik | tagcache.c is massive |
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| 21:31:30 | bertrik | have we ever looked at optimising database scan speed? |
| 21:31:44 | bertrik | it looks like some tags are read way faster than others |
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| 21:43:11 | ej0rge | since the cf works perfectly over usb i'm pretty sure the card and connection to the ide daughterboard is ok, so it's puzzling. it'll just stop at random intervals. |
| 21:43:16 | ej0rge | or between tracks |
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| 21:59:24 | saratoga_ | kugel, fml: i emailed him a month ago about one of his patches and suggested that i thought he should have commit access, but he said he was too busy these days to program much and wasn't interested in commit access |
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| 22:09:58 | funman | http://pastie.org/3673866 still no reboot on usb plug |
| 22:10:20 | funman | i only see the charger icon, and can navigate into the menus |
| 22:12:00 | saratoga_ | fml: were you going to commit FS #11473, i saw some people asking about it |
| 22:12:00 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11473 New bookmarking option: one per track (patches, new) |
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| 22:28:07 | CIA-44 | Commit f269aa0 in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: build system: unify/simplify library handling a bit. |
| 22:30:47 | CIA-44 | f269aa0 build result: 707 errors, 3 warnings (Thomas Martitz committed) |
| 22:33:44 | bertrik | \o/ |
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| 23:08:57 | fml | saratoga: re FS #11473: I even forgot it existed! :-) Which means: no, I'm probably not going to commit it any time soon. IIRC (it was long ago), there was next to no reaction to the patch, so I saw no point in further pushing it. But if you or someone else find the feature useful, I'll be pleased if it would be committed (a resync may be needed though). |
| 23:08:57 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11473 New bookmarking option: one per track (patches, new) |
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| 23:19:46 | CIA-44 | Commit 54e00c1 in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: Fix sim/checkwps build failure. |
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| 23:22:04 | CIA-44 | 54e00c1 build result: 196 errors, 3 warnings (Thomas Martitz committed) |
| 23:23:17 | kugel | :'( |
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| 23:38:08 | kugel | not sure how my commit could cause that error |
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| 23:42:09 | CIA-44 | Commit d26bbb9 in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: (Hopefully) fix overlay plugins. |
| 23:44:26 | CIA-44 | d26bbb9 build result: 125 errors, 0 warnings (Thomas Martitz committed) |
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| 23:55:29 | CIA-44 | Commit 045c69c in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: Fix bootloaders. |
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| 23:57:33 | CIA-44 | 045c69c build result: 40 errors, 3 warnings (Thomas Martitz committed) |
| 23:58:17 | CIA-44 | Commit d5f4391 in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: Partly undo 54e00c1: put include back to root.make and use SECONDEXPANSION. |
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