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#rockbox log for 2012-04-10

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01:11:36[Saint]gevaerts: Right, thanks. It was indeed the c200 I was thinking about wrt RAM, for some reason I had Fuze stuck in my head that day.
01:11:45[Saint]I wasn't around any of my targets to check.
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09:43:26wodzmortalis: ping
09:43:30mortaliswodz: pong
09:43:44wodzmortalis: with your latest patch I get all white screen
09:46:59wodzmoreover this will need mutex for sure
09:47:14mortaliswodz: you still use data transform&
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09:49:30wodzmortalis: no why?
09:50:04mortaliswodz: I see it in lcd_data and lcd_cmd
09:51:23wodzmortalis: right but this are used only to setup controller in bypass mode, after switch to buffered writes this are not used
09:53:55mortaliswodz: hm, in 16bit mode my display doesn't work untill I'm not removed it
09:54:48wodzok, I'll look at this later, work is calling
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10:10:14CIA-44Commit d3ead23 in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: touchscreen: fix some issues/crashes with clicking the list title.
10:13:49CIA-44d3ead23 build result: All green
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10:17:51kugelFS #12640 seems pretty major
10:17:52fs-bluebot Olympus Mrobe MR-100 no button functions (bugs, unconfirmed)
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10:35:23CIA-44Commit a5b0a1d in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: Call radio_init() from hosted's init() too.
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10:37:55CIA-44a5b0a1d build result: All green
10:38:18CIA-44Commit 2406005 in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: Remove a useless sleep() from hosted's init().
10:40:42CIA-442406005 build result: 0 errors, 3 warnings (Thomas Martitz committed)
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10:44:50*[Saint] wonders how kugel seems to keep finding touchscreen bugs that he can never reproduce.
10:46:11[Saint]there's two in particular, the apparent "issue with scroll bar on the left" (I've actually seen at least one other person report this, but I can't reproduce on any of my devices), and the one you just fixed (you mentioned it a while ago and I couldn't reproduce that either).
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10:49:32kugel[Saint]: the first one required the scrollbar to be on the left and top (thus, statusbar off or at the bottom). the kinetic scrolling code inserted a "virtual touch" at 0,0. if the scrollbar was at this position it would scroll up
10:49:49kugelthe second one was a regression introduced with my latest rewrite
10:50:32[Saint]Yeah, you've explained the scrollbar thing to me, I could still never reproduce it though.
10:50:43[Saint]My theme seems to be immune to it or something.
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10:51:57kugelit has a ui viewport, the scrollbar isn't at 0,0
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11:08:02[Saint]Right....thanks for clearing that up.
11:08:49[Saint]When you explained it previously, I had thought the positioning applied to the UI viewport and wasn't screen relative.
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12:12:52OzzieJacksDoes rockbox downsample the color depth of images when they are loaded with %x and not when loaded with %X?
12:13:06OzzieJacksI am experimenting with the %VB tag and when I load a background image with %x it looks 8-bit.
12:13:19OzzieJacksThis is on an SDL build.
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12:31:18lorenzo92kugel: I have just checked: radio_init is not called uhm uhm
12:31:25lorenzo92from main...
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12:34:16lorenzo92pff I cannot understand, It's a little weird going through all the ifdefs, opinions needed :D
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12:39:47kugellorenzo92: I fixed that a few hours ago
12:40:34lorenzo92ahh okay :) so now how to proceed? I mean, how to update the source within my current workspace? sorry but this git is something really different from svn
12:40:45lorenzo92(but loot better :))
12:42:45kugellorenzo92: rebase your branch. (git rebase origin/master)
12:42:55kugeland push once more to gerrit
12:43:21kugelafter doing and ammending your other changes
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13:00:50ccrihi, i have problem with my fuze+ and i don't niow what i can do to fix it.. If i start it in rockbox bootloader then thiis give me "Not file found". In OF - i see logo and nothing more.. Would somebody help me?
13:01:50evilnickWhat is the exact error that the bootloader gives you?
13:03:09ccri[..] Loading Fireware.. \n"File not found..
13:04:24wodzthat means bootloader can't find .rockbox folder or actual rockbox image inside it
13:05:31[Saint]Which could mean a multitude of things...
13:05:51[Saint]The fact that it happens (or, a similar thing happens) in the OF also is quite worrying, though.
13:05:59[Saint]Perform a disk check.
13:06:18ccriand when i boot in OF then this logo displaying nonstop
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13:06:28[Saint]Yes, I read that.
13:06:33[Saint]Perform a disk check.
13:06:49ccrihow i can do that?
13:06:57[Saint]What OS do you use?
13:08:32ccriwhen i try with gparted there is no sdb partitions
13:09:45[Saint]fsck -r /mount/point/of/device
13:09:59ccridd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null dd: opening '/dev/sdb': No medium found
13:10:41ccrithat same with sdc
13:11:55ccrils -1 /dev/sd{b,c}*|wc -l (only 2 lines)
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13:14:00ccrii dont have mount point
13:14:51evilnickSo, none of: Rockbox, the OF or your PC can "see" the flash storage? Have you opened the player up and messed with the connection?
13:15:10evilnickI don't advise doing that! Just wondering if you have already done this?
13:16:34ccrii connect the usb in rockbox then this is freezed then i disconnect and do hardreset.. and it looks like now
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13:19:40ccrilooks like partition with data is dead
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13:24:54ccrimaybe dd'ing this in recovery mode can fix it?
13:26:55wodzccri: wait for funman - he is our sansaAMS expert
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13:35:22ccribtw. This player is still under warranty. How rockbox users are treated by SanDisk?
13:36:42ccriin the case that is hardware..
13:40:50kugel%x(foo,...) works while %x(fo,...) doesnt
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13:48:33lorenzo92kugel: i did the rebase but as output I got: "Current branch is up to date"
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14:02:41kugellorenzo92: try git fetch origin first
14:02:51kugelthat downloads the updates from the git server
14:04:36Tornekugel: git pull −−rebase will do that for you, also
14:05:14kugelif he has checked out master locally yes
14:06:26Tornenot sure what you mean; pull will always grab the upstream of the current branch, whatever that branch is and whatever the upstream is
14:07:37Tornethat's what it's for
14:09:52lorenzo92okay thank you both, before I need to update my git repository on the pc (git pull −−rebase) and then it's ok ;)
14:10:15lorenzo92I'll do again a git commit -a −−amend to be sure, I'll compile to check and then I'll push!
14:20:19mortaliswodz: My thoughts about how lcdif works. Lcdif expect commands and data in one of two forms: 24bit or 16bit. lcd_data_transform required for transforming 16bits to 24. Now we can use 16bit format and transform doesn't need at all. lcdif doesn't know what kind of data we send (some kind of parameters or pixels), so ALL commands and ALL data must be in 24bit form or 16bit form (not only pixels).
14:21:46wodzmortalis: yeah, that was my though also but I hadn't time to proof this
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15:14:44ccripamaury: hi, I have fuze+. When I poweron it there is "Not file found". In OF i see only logo for few minuts then auto-poweroff. This happened first time when i put usb in rockbox, it freezed and i do hardreset... What can I do to fix it? Would you help me?
15:15:55wodzccri: sorry I misread your player type. pamaury is fuze+ expert
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15:17:23ccrino porblem :)
15:18:36pamauryccri: what happen if you plug the usb cable ? Does it mount ?
15:19:45ccriyes but only /dev/sdb and if i dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null then dd puts me: opening '/dev/sdb': No medium found
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15:21:00pamaurydid you try to usb the OF usb mode ? Power off, hold volume down and plug the usb cable and after a few seconds release volume down
15:21:13pamaury*to use
15:21:13ccriblack screen
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15:21:58ccrionly black screen
15:22:29pamaurydo you have a micro-sd ?
15:23:26pamauryhmm, that doesn't sound too good, perhaps a hardware problem...Do you have linux or windows ?
15:25:34ccriand i have rockbox with source
15:25:50pamauryok cool, then we try to reinstall the OF, see if it works
15:26:24pamaurybasically you first need to follow until the mkimxboot step
15:26:37pamaurywhen you are there please tell me
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15:27:17ccriok i have this
15:27:46ccridone before
15:27:56pamauryok then run the same ./mkimxboot command but replace "dualboot" with "recovery"
15:29:05ccriwhats now?
15:29:05pamaurythen send put your device in recovery mode (power off, hold volume up and plug usb, wait a few seconds)
15:29:58ccriok :) black screen but something in dev
15:30:59pamauryIf not done, you need to build sbloader (in utils/imxtools) and then the sb file produce by mkimxboot to the device this way: ./sbloader 1024
15:31:19ccriwhats now?
15:31:39pamaurythe screen should not stay black and display a few things
15:32:23pamauryand it should report as a mass storage device
15:32:24ccrino partition found/usb: connected/bootloader usb mode
15:33:03ccrii see only /dev/sdb*
15:33:12pamauryok, try to run fdisk on it
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15:35:13pamauryok, now you need to have the OF sb file at hand ( and dd it to /dev/sdb2 this way:
15:35:13pamaurydd bs=512 seek=4 of=/dev/sdb2
15:35:23pamaury(don't forget the seek=4 !!)
15:37:19ccrisandisk? OF or patched?
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15:40:20pamauryWhen finished, just unplug your device and try to boot normally. Hopefully the OF should work
15:41:38ccrii hope too. this player iis under warranty. How rockbox users are treated by SanDisk? If it's hardware.
15:42:10ccrioups: dd: writing '/dev/sdb2': Input/output error
15:43:28ccripamaury: nothing to worry?
15:43:35pamaurynot normal
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15:45:33pamauryif you can't write the firmware you won't be able to do anything. Did it write something or failed on the first sector ?
15:46:12ccridd isnt quit, looks like it do something
15:46:22ccribut i dont know
15:47:08pamauryto know what dd is doing you can run kill -USR1 `pidof dd` in another console iirc
15:48:36pamauryso dd is still doing something ?
15:49:20ccrithats look. locked cmd line..
15:49:42ccridoing or freezed
15:50:44pamauryprobably freezed
15:50:57pamaurytry to unplug your device
15:52:00pamauryhmm, that is quite bad because if it successfully wrote something, it mean your device will not boot because the image is corrupted... Can you try to boot it or boot the OF ?
15:52:52ccriexacly like before, nothiing change
15:53:15pamauryso it's stuck at the logo ?
15:53:45ccriand i see rockbox bootloader
15:54:35pamauryit really seems similar to the common hardware failure of the fuze+: the internal storage doesn't write anymore :( Perhaps you can retry the procedure: put it in recovery mode, sbload the bootloader and dd the OF ?
15:55:14ccrii can try
15:59:16ccrihow about service and rockbox?
16:00:01pamauryno idea, i think using rockbox can void the warranty but as usual that's up to the service...
16:00:03ccriagain: dd: writing '/dev/sdb2': Input/output error
16:00:25pamauryI don't know of anyone who had this problem and was still under warranty I think
16:00:39pamaurywhen did you buy it ?
16:00:54pamaurydid it happen immediately after putting rockbox on it and did rockbox worked for a while ?
16:02:48ccrii buy it for my trip i december 2011, cheap and good and rocbox in road.. :) rockbox in board after march 2012..
16:04:46TheLemonManif nothing shows up at all you can say its because of their firmware updates
16:05:07pamauryTheLemonMan: unfortunately, rockbox bootloader shows up :-/
16:05:50TheLemonManhrm, you can try destroying the bootloader
16:06:14pamaurywe just tried without success
16:06:25TheLemonMannand stuck in ro ?
16:07:19pamauryyou write something but in fact nothing is written. Writing a single byte would be sufficient to prevent it from booting...
16:07:59TheLemonManthats really strange. is the code using the gpmi hw ?
16:08:22pamauryno the flash has a sd interface
16:08:42pamauryemmc to be more precise
16:09:40TheLemonManany chance to dump the debug registers after/before the write ?
16:10:36pamauryHe is not the first one, Jean-Louis Biasini who helped the port also had it and several people reported similar problems on the Sandisk forums. We did advanced experiments on Jean-Louis's device and it really sounded like a hardware bug: you write, the flash reports success.
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16:12:18pamauryccri: I'm really sorry but I can't do much more. If you are willing to try, I could experiment one more thing but it's unlikely to work
16:13:30ccrii can try if it might help me or sombady else
16:13:55pamaurythat's just to test a theory, it can't harm anyway
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16:14:25pamauryok, you need to edit some code: open bootloader/imx233.c
16:15:51ccriok i have
16:15:52pamauryaround like 160, just before "ret = storage_init();", insert the following lines:
16:15:52pamauryprintf("unplug USB");
16:15:52pamaurysleep(HZ * 10);
16:15:52DBUGEnqueued KICK pamaury
16:17:28pamaurythen recompile the bootloader, rebuild the recovery image using mkimxboot and send it using sbloader. It should display a few lines and then print "unplug USB". At this point, unplug the cable and wait a few second. The device should powerdown itself. Then try to reboot normally
16:18:23pamauryThis will force a clean power down, the fuze+ is quite sensitive to this.
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16:26:21ccriok done.. what now?
16:26:52ccripamaury: ^^
16:27:15pamauryjust try to boot, if the situation doesn't improve then I can't do more.
16:28:28ccrinothing improved i think
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17:34:25skx`any news regarding the ipod nano 2g usb charger issue?
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17:48:28funmanwhich issue exactly?
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17:56:35gevaertsfunman: IIRC the fact that the nano2g doesn't detect chargers properly because it's not doing DETECT_BY_REQUEST, which is obviously blocked by usb not working at all
18:04:19skx`that one indeed :)
18:04:25skx`any progress yet?
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19:40:26tisqueldotimhi there ...
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20:10:55lorenzo92how to publish a draft comment on gerrit? :S
20:12:50lorenzo92ah okay found :)
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20:13:25kugelplorenzo92: use the review button
20:13:38lorenzo92exactly :D
20:14:05tisqueldotimhi there ... can i put rockbox o my ipod v5 yet ??
20:14:17tisqueldotimipod classic that is ....
20:14:44lorenzo92kugelp: before committing I wanted to discuss about debug_menu includes...
20:17:47gevaertstisqueldotim: the 5th gen has been supported for ages. The 6th gen (classic) mostly works, but it's not really recommended yet as there are serious limitations (such as no dual boot, no integration in the rockbox installer, possibly some instabilities...)
20:23:48gevaertsJdGordon: b37e6bc8c (lcd rework) breaks the mr100. Any suggestions on what to try?
20:23:57tisqueldotimgevaerts, I'll just check if i've actually got that ....
20:25:59tisqueldotimgevaerts, Yeah I've gt the 6th gen 120GB model ... how do proceed ??
20:27:56gevaertstisqueldotim: have a look at
20:28:00gevaertsI don't know much more
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20:35:09tisqueldotimOK so I've got a bid on a 5th gen ipod that finishes in 20 minutes..... I really need a no0b's guide as to how to load rockbox to it... is there a decent guide available (I will keep on this channels for the next 24 hours for all of your responses ) thanx in advance... :)
20:37:40bluebrotherfs-bluebot: .explain manual to tisqueldotim
20:37:40fs-bluebottisqueldotim: manual: The Rockbox manual is available in PDF and HTML format at
20:38:08CIA-44Commit debe77a in rockbox by Dominik Riebeling: Check for existing firmware file on H100 / H300.
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20:40:36CIA-44debe77a build result: All green
20:41:44alexrudnickSo I have a Sansa Clip+ that seems to be stuck on the "Refreshing your media" screen from the original firmware, but I'd really like to install Rockbox on it −− does anybody know how to do a hard reset on such a device, if it won't boot up?
20:41:46tisqueldotimbluebrother, I guess i'm looking at the ipod "video" for the 5th gen , then ??
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20:45:15tisqueldotimAll I really want to know ... is is it possible to have a 128GB CF card used with an ipod using rockbox ??
20:45:51bluebrotherif you manage to physically get it done there is no reason for that to not work.
20:46:07gevaertsThat should work, although I do seem to remember that the ipod video is a bit picky about CF adapters
20:46:08bluebrotherif you want to CF mod an Ipod I'd suggest going for an Ipod mini
20:46:24bluebrothersince the mod is dead easy on that one.
20:46:41tisqueldotimoh OK .. so an ipod mini ... does that do video ??
20:46:49bluebrotherof course that also means you don't get a color display −− it's a mini after all
20:47:15bluebrotherwell, Rockbox can play mpeg2 video. But you really don't want to use that on a greyscale player ...
20:47:22tisqueldotimInteresting ... thank-you one and all !!
20:47:29bluebrotherbut what's the point about video on Ipods anyway?
20:47:57bluebrothertodays mobile phones, tablets and laptops are much better suited for playing back video
20:48:15tisqueldotimmm video on ipod means you can watch vodcasts , isn't it ??
20:48:34tisqueldotimpodcast +video
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20:48:59*bluebrother doesn't have a need for that
20:49:08tisqueldotimsure thing ...
20:49:40bluebrotherafter all, a DAP is for mobile use. And when being mobile you also need to look after other things than the player :)
20:50:04tisqueldotimMy 2nd question is that i want to display "lyrics" on my songs/ tracks so i can do language learning programs etc....
20:50:08bluebrotherand for things like a train trip a laptop is much better. Bigger display, ...
20:51:28*tisqueldotim recalls he doesn't have trains in iom... :)
20:51:47kugelplorenzo92: then discuss :-)
20:51:55tisqueldotimso the / lyrics / question .....
20:51:59bluebrotherlook for lrcplayer in the manual
20:52:39bluebrotherhmm, why isn't lrcplayer documented in the wiki?
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20:54:22tisqueldotimsays it doesn't sync anyway ....
20:56:16bluebrothernot exactly.
20:56:42bluebrotherthat entry says that there is a problem with a specific combination of tags.
20:57:16tisqueldotimoh ok .. where's the wii entry then ??
20:59:05bluebrotherwii? How is that related to a console?
20:59:47tisqueldotimsox wiki ...
20:59:57tisqueldotim**soz wiki '...
21:00:21tisqueldotimi meant is there a wiki entry ....
21:00:50tisqueldotimcan i alter the wiki ??
21:00:58bluebrotheras I said earlier, lrcplayer is documented in the manual, but (for some reason not known to me) not in the wiki
21:01:15bluebrotherwell, the point of a wiki is to get edited by people, isn't it?
21:01:35tisqueldotimoh ok then .. perhaps i will ..
21:02:54tisqueldotimcoffee on the go ... brback ...
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21:10:20kugellorenzo92: you didn't rebase properly
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21:11:16kugelthe commits before yours are 4 days old. the radio_init fix was today
21:13:23kugelsee git log output
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21:21:59lorenzo92kugel: I can see your commits, beware that I did not pushed last modifications yet ;)
21:22:35kugelokay. I was looking at your last push
21:22:50lorenzo92ah okay I'll do it right now ;)
21:23:57kugelits strange that you need to include radio.h in debug_menu.c to enable a debug item
21:25:43lorenzo92it isn't because it is imported only on NATIVE platforms following ifdefs...
21:26:33lorenzo92I also reviewed keymappings ;)
21:26:33kugelthen its probably OK
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21:32:57kugelcool. so, what about the kernel module?
21:34:37lorenzo92eh good question...I tried with the makefile I sent you some days ago but apparently there was something wrong (nothing to be done for all..,but no executable uhm)
21:35:03lorenzo92basically I guess we need only kernel's headers
21:35:04kugelah yeah
21:35:54kugelthat was because the all target doesn't create a file named all
21:36:34kugelyes I would like a solution where we only import the header into our tree
21:37:15lorenzo92so basically my makefile was non-working you say?
21:37:44kugelit needs some tweaks
21:38:05kugelanyway, it depends on the kernel source
21:39:30lorenzo92what do you mean?
21:42:25kugelyou need the extracted kernel source for it no?
21:44:08lorenzo92yes yes and I did something, got /home/lorenzo/YP-R0_DEV/si4709_module/.tmp_versions/si4709.mod: Directory nonexistent
21:44:14lorenzo92I'll try to mkdir...
21:45:08lorenzo92uhm it doesn't do something special...just creates a .mod file!
21:45:52kugelthat's right isn't it?
21:46:12lorenzo92but nothing else...
21:46:40lorenzo92its content is both path for output .ko and .c
21:50:44lorenzo92kugel: wait! I got the .o file!
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21:52:19lorenzo92kugel: got it!
21:52:51lorenzo92from terminal, I run that first: make -C ../linux-2.6.24-2.4.2-base ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-ypr0-linux-gnueabi- M=`pwd` modules
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21:53:13lorenzo92ops sorry the other way round :p
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21:59:45lorenzo92uhm cannot achieve it again lol
22:00:56lorenzo92pff I'm little lost :D
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22:02:05since96what is the programming langage used in rockbox ?
22:03:42since96are you sure ?
22:04:12since96how can i made games for it ?
22:04:23lorenzo92yes ;) mainly C, then there are also some scripts (makefiles, and others too)
22:04:41since96is python used ?
22:04:42bertrikI think you can write a game in lua too
22:04:47lorenzo92since96: you should have a look at "plugins developement" ;)
22:04:58lorenzo92yes lua too
22:05:06since96ok, thanks lorenzo and bertrik :)
22:05:07lorenzo92python -> not supported
22:05:22since96damn ! :/
22:05:35lorenzo92hehe too easy :p I'm jocking hihi
22:05:54lorenzo92anyway you could take a look at already developed plugins too to get an idea ;)
22:06:20since96where is the plugins developpement page ? :-/
22:06:25kugelsorry, I also don't know how to properly build kernel modules
22:06:30since96i can't find it ^^
22:06:58lorenzo92kugel: uhm at least I have seen the .ko file :) tomorrow I will investigate into that better...
22:07:19lorenzo92in case, suggestion where to put the make script?
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22:10:56kugelI'd say integrate it into the patch-firmware.she script in utils/ypr0
22:11:53lorenzo92okay I'll dig that tomorrow ;)
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22:14:32kugelgevaerts: I think;a=blobdiff;f=firmware/target/arm/olympus/mrobe-100/lcd-remote-mr100.c;h=edcdde72535e1d08adf6a71382d2bc3ac12f0c80;hp=aa3d228952f6b9fc30c8033c01c88bba8a708c64;hb=b37e6bc8c119289aca8740dd5e3b60d72f9d6b40;hpb=15c69b8bafc3e89e1a825b5bbefef4a97f0001b1 lacks a * for dereference
22:15:31gevaertskugel: that URL didn't survive for me. Do you have a line number?
22:16:26*gevaerts looks at the diff
22:17:46gevaertsor no, not sure
22:17:58kugeloh that's already fixed in master
22:19:50gevaertsIt almost has to be something like that though
22:24:24gevaertsEither that or it broke again later and my bisect is wrong
22:25:10*gevaerts investigates that possibility
22:27:30gevaertsSeems not. c0a2c3fe is still broken
22:27:58gevaertsHm, it *does* sometimes get to the menu, and it definitely gets to the splash screen
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