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#rockbox log for 2012-04-11

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02:37:57JdGordongevaerts: check its lcd driver
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08:35:44wodzmortalis: ping
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08:37:53wodzmortalis: I have no luck with getting buffered lcd_update() to work. Removing *transform functions doesn't work (I think due to the fact that my lcd uses 18bit interface). Initializing lcd in 24b mode and then switching to 16bit mode initializes lcd correctly but the image is highly distorted
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08:42:17mortaliswodz: Is it possible to configure your display to use 16bit interface?
08:43:53wodzIIRC this is hardware thing I mean the way it is wired
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08:47:17mortaliswodz: my display could use 16bit and 18bit interfaces (I guess 18bit may not work due to some pins not connected). But for your display: if 18bit works, then 16bit should work too, I think
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08:49:55wodzthe question is in which mode it is by default
08:50:34mortaliswodz: could you show me your distorted image?
09:03:23mortaliswodz: I looked at datasheet for your display. you could use 16bit mode.
09:03:42mortaliswodz: lcd_write_reg(EXT_DISP_CTRL1, 0x01);
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09:13:30wodzmortalis: no go - lcd is not initialized at all
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09:22:14mortaliswodz: I have no idea
09:23:03wodzme too
09:32:28wodzmortalis: I tried to switch lcd interface to 16bit after init and effect is the same as on previous picture
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10:22:37mortaliswodz: I looked at your code again, and found reason. &LCD_BUFF+(i%4)*LCD_WIDTH/2 in my code and (void *)&LCD_BUFF+(i%4)*LCD_WIDTH/2 in yours are different things.
10:23:50wodzmortalis: you mean the reason for the funny strips?
10:24:16mortaliswodz: the reason for distorted image
10:26:39wodzmortalis: You seems to better understand how data are layout, please pastie the code and I'll test it later today
10:28:48mortaliswodz: I pasted it few days ago. Just remove (void*) before &LCD_BUFF in create_llp
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10:29:57wodzmortalis: aghh I see. You mean it should be (void *)(&LCD_BUFF+(i%4)*LCD_WIDTH/2) right?
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10:30:47mortaliswodz: yes
10:48:43gevaertsJdGordon: well yes, that commit was an lcd driver change
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11:31:04Zagorgevaerts: I finally filled out the DevCon2012 table yday
11:31:37gevaertsZagor: yes, I saw. I'm planning to send an email about that during my lunch break
11:31:53gevaertsWe need to decide who to drop...
11:37:12Zagorby highest bidder? :)
11:38:25gevaertsThat could be a good way :)
11:39:09gevaertsPure numbers say May 18-20 or June 22-24
11:39:23gevaerts(if we don't take scorche into account, which he told us to do)
11:41:17*[Saint] parse fails
11:41:31[Saint]He told you to take him into account, or not to?
11:41:38gevaertsNot to
11:42:13gevaertsIs May 18-20 still doable price-wise for flights?
11:46:58Zagorooh, my return flight says "only 2 seats left"
11:47:11Zagormay 20th
11:49:56gevaertsHm, that sounds tricky then
11:50:25Zagornot if we decide *right now* :-)
11:51:47gevaertsMy model that says people get one vote per available weekend says May 18-20 :)
11:51:53Zagorjun29-jul1 has the same numbers as may18-20, but then we lose petur
11:52:26gevaertsYes, but scorche said he probably can't make it anyway, so I'm not sure we should count his line
11:52:34Zagoroh right
11:53:28gevaertsJune 22-24 loses LinusN, which also doesn't seem great
11:54:06Zagoron may18-20 it looks like perhaps only I and linus are flying anyway, so maybe that's not a show-stopper
11:55:01Zagoror do AlexP and/or Torne fly?
11:55:13Tornei hav eno idea
11:55:15Tornei haven't checked prices
11:55:15gevaertsAlexP was considering coming by car
11:55:19Tornei will do whatever is cheap
11:55:25Tornei can't drive, so it's fly or eurostar
11:55:34Torneor get alexp to drive :)
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11:57:43gevaertsOK. I assume AlexP's car won't vary in price as much as the eurostar (I don't know about tunnel and ferry variation...)
11:58:48gevaertsZagor: I'm fine with may18-20, so we can decide right now as far as I'm concerned
11:59:41Tornepersonally i don't have a clue; it's quite possible i might be moving house on/around may 18-20 but it's more likely that i won't :)
11:59:50Tornesomeone decide and i'll come ifi can :)
12:02:34[Saint]Tomorrow, 5am
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13:33:47gevaertsZagor: any luck yet?
13:35:48Zagorwith what?
13:36:37gevaertsfiguring out if May 18-20 works
13:37:19Zagoroh, it works for me.
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13:37:36gevaertsOK, I'll decide on that then
13:37:48ZagorI'm not sure what a proper decision procedure is. are we perhaps settled on that weekend?
13:37:59gevaertsI have no idea either
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13:38:20gevaertsBut I assume that as the organiser I'm supposed to make the final decision :)
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13:38:32Zagorsounds sensible to me
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13:59:46Zagorflights booked
14:04:47kugel"view raw" in the log viewer is broken
14:05:46Zagorworks for me
14:06:18Zagorah, past logs don't work
14:06:50kugelalso, the firefox detection is broken for 10+
14:07:02kugelBUT the server push method works again on linux firefox
14:07:17wodzpush works for 10+ for me
14:07:30Zagoroff again, on again...
14:07:34kugelit doesnt on windows for me
14:07:45wodzwho use windows :P
14:07:56kugelwork does :)
14:08:33kugelI think 18-20 may is too early for me
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14:23:51JdGordongevaerts: yeah, not exactly helpful, i meant specifically the mr100's lcd driver in target/wherver
14:24:01JdGordonits probabbly missing a * somewhere
14:24:49gevaertsI'll try to have another look tonight
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15:45:18kugelgevaerts: I thought you found your bisect was wrong?
15:45:58gevaertskugel: no. thought it might have been due to the later "fix" commit, but things are still broken after that
15:46:38kugelah, so it's still that commit?
15:47:00kugelI looked a bit and couldnt find anything wrong
15:47:01gevaertsAs far as I can work out, yes
15:48:08kugelperhaps try undoing the lcd specific changes?
15:49:59gevaertsThe thing is that it does get reasonably far. Sometimes it actually shows the main menu. If I had to guess (I'll try to check later), it would be update_rect or something like that
15:50:12gevaertsUnless it's the remote. When is that first initialised?
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18:23:25pixelmameh, May 18-20 isn't that great for me either (although I was undecided beforehand)
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20:01:25SimonTI like to turn my mp3 player and often forget about it. Is it possible to get it to automatically turn off after an hour?
20:01:47SimonTI know there's a sleep timer but it's not quite what I want
20:02:26SimonTIf I don't interact with the mp3 player for an hour I'd like it to shutoff. Any thoughts?
20:03:04SimonTI took a look at some of the patches available, but there seem to be a lot that do similar things so I'm not sure which is the best/most straight forward one
20:04:52bluebrotheridle poweroff?
20:04:57gevaertsSimonT: I've never used the sleep timer myself, but the manual mentions a "Restart Sleep Timer On Keypress" option
20:05:26gevaertsUnless I misunderstand what you mean, that seems to do what you're asking
20:05:39SimonTThat could do it
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20:25:30vonck00Hi, I'm reading the tagnavi wiki-page( , And i'm wondering if it's possible to do something like this:
20:25:33vonck00"Albums by 'Collection'" -> FIRST-DIRECTORY-AFTER:"/Music" -> artist -> album -> title = "f_browse"
20:28:23vonck00what i´ḿ trying to do: i have lots of music, So i have various root folders for a group of albums,and its nice to browse per ´collection´
20:31:43bluebrotherby definition of "root" there is only one root folder.
20:32:33vonck00the podcasts example ["All podcasts" -> title = "fmt_podcast" ? filename ~ "/podcast" ] does provide a workaroud, i could make a script tocreate a tagnavi line for each folder in ./music
20:33:51vonck00ok bluebrother,i communicated it badly, subfolders(1-deep) under the root.
20:35:17bertrikpamaury, I think a simple solution to the si4702 problem is to turn the the tuner on and then off using si4700_sleep in the radio init code
20:36:13bertrikthis would work on the AMS(v2) targets to turn the tuner properly off and would also work with the fuze+ where the tuner is completely turned off (actually removing tuner power)
20:37:22bertrikpamaury, patch is in,33965.msg196737/topicseen.html#msg196737
20:39:15ender`i just noticed that the build client is reporting:
20:39:16ender`Use of uninitialized value in quoted execution (``, qx) at line 557.
20:39:21ender`Use of uninitialized value in regexp compilation at line 558.
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20:44:13vonck00,I found the answer on the wiki ,tagnavi is using C-printf formatting, that´s not good enough for what I want to do, the `podcast`+script workaround will have to do.
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20:53:37wodzmortalis: Initializing in 24b mode and then switching to 16bit mode + fix to create_llp() you have spotted almost work. I get some random artifacts but display is sort of usable. It is also considerably faster
20:54:07wodzit is something like 4 times faster
20:55:30mortaliswodz: cool. have you see tearing effects while scrolling in menu? no matter what mode buffered or bypass.
20:56:00wodzmortalis: no
20:56:26mortalisI see it after switching to horizontal orientation, in vertical it's all ok
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21:01:17mortalisseems it's problem of hfm's displays. OF uses horizontal orentation too and I see same effect, but little less noticable.
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21:05:18wodzmortalis: In some of your patch you tweaked VERT_PERIOD. What did you use to derive value of this reg?
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21:13:46mortaliswodz: if in short, it was just my stupid mistake :)
21:14:01*gevaerts is confused
21:14:12gevaertsDon't the mr100 and mr500 use the same remote?
21:15:30wodzmortalis: I am asking because changing this register affects framerate as well as artifacts I am experiencing
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21:29:06pixelmagevaerts: I think they do but I'm not sure if the remote is supported in both cases
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21:31:11gevaertspixelma: I ask because they seem to have separate drivers
21:31:23*gevaerts managed to build a remote-less mr100 build, and that one boots
21:31:54pixelmaI'm not sure but somehow I have "differently hooked up" in the back of my head
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21:40:29gevaertsCommenting out the entirety of remote_update_lcd makes things "work"
21:46:35*gevaerts doesn't understand
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21:54:31gevaertsThis does not make sense!
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22:14:47gevaertsDoes anyone feel like having a look at firmware/target/arm/olympus/mrobe-100/lcd-remote-mr100.c ?
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22:15:39gevaertsJdGordon changed line 258 in there a while ago, to use FBREMOTEADDR(). Since then, the next line (remote_tx()) freezes the player
22:15:49gevaertsI don't see at all how that makes sense
22:17:15gevaertsIn fact, I don't really see why it should even reach that. I don't actually have a remote, and there's a headphones_inserted() check before calling the lot (and this happens without headphones inserted)
22:18:03gevaertsHm, maybe related to FS #9628
22:18:04fs-bluebot Sound sometimes doesn't work on mr100 if booted without headphones plugged in (bugs, new)
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22:25:28*gevaerts would like to see this fixed soon. 3.11 does not work at all on mr100 :\
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22:31:01gevaertsWell, maybe it does work with the remote attached. Who knows?...
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22:36:30wodzgevaerts: does headphone detection work correctly?
22:38:38gevaertswodz: the GPIO bit seems to be OK, but maybe the interrupt is broken
22:39:25gevaertsInvestigating that now
22:41:13gevaertswodz: forcing headphones_inserted() to false does not fix things
22:42:31wodzhonestly this is rather complicated piece of code for 2 lines of display :P
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22:43:37gevaertsWhat I want to know is how b37e6bc8 and c0a2c3fe managed to break it
22:44:50gevaertsI could understand FBREMOTEADDR returning something wrong (which it did before c0a2c3fe), but if it manages to get things into data[], *nothing* changed...
22:45:41*gevaerts considers adding splashf()s in tx_remote
22:46:49n1sif nothing at all changed, maybe comparing assembly would be of help
22:47:21n1sgcc isn't perfect yknow :)
22:47:53gevaertsFeel free to have a go. That's not my area of expertise at all
22:48:40n1sif you haven't figured it out by tomorrow evening perhaps, i have to sleep now, gnight
22:49:10wodzgevaerts: does putting some constant instead of *FBREMOTEADDR() help?
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22:49:47gevaertswodz: no, that doesn't change anything
22:51:09wodzI guess it is not the driver then
22:51:41gevaertsThe driver?
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22:54:59pamaurybertrik: ok, did you test it on the fuze+ ?
22:55:35*gevaerts is now busy not understanding remote_wait_ready
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23:02:54lebelliumjust received my Fuze v1 bought on ebay. Loaded RB 3.11, works fine but the top part of screen is hidden by the front cover
23:03:09lebelliumIs it normal or should I disassemble it to move the screen a bit down?
23:03:37*gevaerts wonders if this is stack corruption
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23:05:19lebelliumif I'm in exactly in front of it I would say 2-3 pixels lines are hidden. If I tilt the device I can see the entire screen
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23:05:46gevaertslebellium: yes, that's common with thefuze
23:06:48lebelliumhum really?! is there something to do? I find that quite annoying. With cabbiev2 the status bar is cut off that way
23:07:02CIA-44Commit c45984d in rockbox by Frank Gevaerts: Increase mr100 remote lcd thread stack (fixes FS #12640)
23:08:02CIA-44Commit a88707f in rockbox v3.11 by Frank Gevaerts: Increase mr100 remote lcd thread stack (fixes FS #12640)
23:08:30*gevaerts makes another mental note: when things don't make sense, check for stack overflows
23:08:56gevaertsbertrik: any schedule for the radio thing?
23:08:58bluebrothermaybe Rockbox should show a splash when a stack overflows?
23:09:18bluebrotherwe should be able to detect that, shouldn't we?
23:09:27CIA-44c45984d build result: All green
23:09:44lebelliumsorry but what is the stack overflow? I hope my Fuze has no hw default?!
23:10:07gevaertsbluebrother: we do detect it (and panic) IIRC, *if* the thing survives long enough to get to a context switch
23:10:17gevaertsThat doesn't happen in many cases though
23:10:26bluebrothergevaerts: hmm, ok. So no luck here :o
23:10:30gevaertslebellium: not related to your fuze
23:11:00bluebrotherlebellium: the stack is some part of the memory that stores temporary data. Like return addresses on function calls, local variables and stuff.
23:12:18bluebrotherhmm, DevCon is now on the same weekend as sigint. I guess I won't attend sigint then.
23:13:07lebelliumand there is a link between the pixels lines hidden by the front cover and stack overflow?! Or did I misunderstand sth?
23:13:31gevaertslebellium: we were discussing a bug on mr100
23:13:46bluebrothera stack overflow means you're overwriting memory you're not supposed to overwrite.
23:13:58bluebrotherif you have a memory corruption like that anything can happen.
23:14:04bluebrothermost likely things crash
23:14:25lebelliumah you were talking about another thing!
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23:15:42lebelliumgevaerts you said that is common with the Fuze. Is there any other trick that disassemble the device and move the screen down?
23:16:22gevaertslebellium: no idea. I'm not sure if disassembling the device even helps
23:16:42bertrikpamaury, no I didn't test it on the fuze+ because I don't have that target
23:17:05pamauryok, but it actually solve the problem on other targets ?
23:17:25bertrikgevaerts, I think we have a nice fix now that isn't too radical and should work with all current targets
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23:19:04bertrikpamaury, it solved it for me on the clip zip and it also solved the problem on a sansa fuze
23:19:36pamauryok, then I guess you can commit that (or you prefer if I do it ?), it can break anyway
23:22:46bertrikI'll commit it, maybe gevaerts can do the backport to 3.11
23:23:21*gevaerts nods
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23:26:36saratogadoes the fm problem also happen on the clip+?
23:27:38bertrikyes, I think it can happen there too. I can't test that myself because I have a clip+ with an rda5802 instead of a si4702 tuner chip
23:28:24saratogai just checked and i actually have the si4700 variant
23:28:59saratogai'll test it later, in the meantime lets get the fix in and then get 3.11.1 out
23:29:33bertrikIf you check the fm debug menu, you may see that the 3rd number top row is 0041, that's the stuck power state
23:36:20CIA-44Commit 73732f4 in rockbox by Bertrik Sikken: si4700 tuner: fix power consumption issue caused by ill-defined power state at startup
23:36:33saratogai actually don't see that on my clip+
23:36:51CIA-44Commit 5e89217 in rockbox v3.11 by Frank Gevaerts: (Author: Bertrik Sikken) si4700 tuner: fix power consumption issue caused by ill-defined power state at startup
23:37:18saratoga3rd 16 bit word is all zeros on the april 3 build
23:38:22bertrikI think it doesn't always happen that it gets into the bad state
23:38:38CIA-4473732f4 build result: All green
23:39:04bertrikquite a power regression :)
23:40:08gevaertsAlexP: ping
23:40:36AlexPgevaerts: What up?
23:40:50AlexPah, ready for 3.11.2?
23:40:56gevaertsAlexP: we seem to have a bunch of fixes in, yes
23:41:05gevaertsShall I bump version numbers?
23:41:10AlexPSounds good
23:42:19CIA-44Commit 8b9e5c9 in rockbox v3.11 by Frank Gevaerts: Bump version numbers to 3.11.2
23:42:26gevaertsI set the release date to tomorrow
23:42:31AlexPGood plan
23:42:46gevaertsWe can already start building and uploading of course :)
23:42:57AlexPyep :)
23:43:00AlexPsame as before?
23:43:12gevaertsYes, if I can remember what it was :)
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23:50:26AlexPgevaerts: For the release notes I'm going to include the 3.11.1 bug in them, as we never realesed it
23:50:39*gevaerts agrees
23:53:56AlexPWas there a bug report for the tuner power issue?
23:54:49gevaertsI think not. Not sure though
23:54:53AlexPAnd what targets is that tuner in?
23:56:43gevaertsAll AMS sansas it seems
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23:57:06gevaertsWell, the clip+ and the fuzev2 can have another one as well
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23:57:17AlexPThe remote issue was that the buttons didn't work?
23:57:22gevaertsAnd a few non-release targets
23:57:47gevaertsOn mr100? No, it froze on boot, often just after showing the main menu (but sometimes before)
23:57:53AlexPOh, OK
23:58:04AlexPSo clip, fuze, clip+ for radio
23:58:17gevaertsAlso c200v2 and e200v2

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