#rockbox 2012-04-30

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#rockbox log for 2012-04-30

00:02:24	saratoga	jhMikeS: did you notice any SD card weirdness on AMSv2 lately?
00:04:24	jhMikeS	Haven't used it that much but I hadn't seen anything
00:05:22	saratoga	given a git hash, whats the easiest way to check out the commit immediately before that hash?
00:06:24	jhMikeS	<hash>~1 works for diff (jsut tried)
00:06:37	jhMikeS	maybe works in general?
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00:08:10	jhMikeS	hm, doesn't seem to be quite what I thought :)
00:09:26	jhMikeS	<hash> <hash>~1 seems to work
00:11:03	saratoga	so "git checkout hash~2"
00:13:05	jhMikeS	seemed to work
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00:17:22	jhMikeS	it does do what's expected for checkout
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00:36:14	saratoga	i need to start updating the wiki as i learn these things so that i don't forget them immediately
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00:41:26	funman	hash^ is shortcut for hash~1 (and hash^^^ for hash~3..)
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00:45:54	saratoga	we need a GIT faq section for SVN users
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00:48:07	Torne	saratoga: feel free to write one :)
00:48:16	saratoga	well i need to learn this stuff first :)
00:48:20	saratoga	otherwise its all going to be wrong
00:48:34	saratoga	well that and i should probably be writing my thesis now not learning git
00:48:35	Torne	Well, alternatively: feel free to propose a list of questions you think it' dbe useful to answer
00:48:46	Torne	and i will see if i can write answers for them when i have time :)
00:48:49	Torne	or someone else familiar with git
00:48:53	saratoga	ok i'll start a section
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00:52:21	funman	i think there are svn->git giguides on git-scm website
00:52:28	saratoga	Torne: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingGit#Frequently_Asked_Questions
00:53:11	saratoga	funman: thanks, these look good: http://git-scm.com/course/svn.html
00:53:32	saratoga	those are just 3 questions i've seen asked in the last couple weeks
00:54:15	Torne	i also do need to expand the regular instructions a bit to actually explain topic branches
00:54:43	Torne	i assumed that very new people wouldn't use them, and that people who knew git would know how to do it already, but it turns out that the rebase workflow we're encouraging is not immediately obvious to apply to topic branches
00:54:52	saratoga	also, get us sequential commit numbering again :)
00:54:56	Torne	yeah, sorr
00:55:01	Torne	i have neglected to actually progress tha tone :)
00:55:08	Torne	i... yeah. sometime? :)
00:55:32	saratoga	well i don't really mind, but it does seem to be confusing users
00:55:41	gevaerts	While I do think we should have sequentian numbers back, I don't think they actually help if you're looking at the actual git tree
00:55:44	Torne	yeah, i expected it would
00:55:52	Torne	it was my main argument against git
00:55:55	Torne	:)
00:56:14	Torne	the underlying design decisions which lead to it being very difficult to do sensibly in git are still my major issue with it :p
00:56:24	saratoga	what is the main issue?
00:56:52	Torne	absolute insistence that repositories all be symmetrical
00:57:06	saratoga	our usage pattern with a single centralized repo would seem to fit sequential numbering well enough
00:57:08	Torne	i.e. that there be no significance ascribed to one clone of a project over another
00:57:11	Torne	Right
00:57:32	Torne	The problem is that there is no way to tell, and so you have to invent things based on convention that are inherently unsafe and will give misleading results in some circumstances
00:57:40	Torne	so people have to just know not to misapply it
00:58:10	saratoga	could we just have the rockbox servers count commits, and then some mechanism to print them in build strings?
00:58:22	Torne	yeah, doing it entirely on the build server was one option
00:58:26	saratoga	i suppose that wouldn't help you check out things
00:58:32	saratoga	but it'd be better then nothing
00:58:35	Torne	we would need an offset added as well, unfortunately
00:58:43	Torne	because the current commit count is significantly lower than the last svn revno :)
00:58:50	Torne	due to svn counting commits in branches/tags/etc as well
00:59:05	saratoga	make commit zero be the last svn revision i assume
00:59:13	Torne	erf, i'd rather not :)
00:59:14	saratoga	so we'd be around r32000 or so
00:59:24	saratoga	why not, makes it easy to deal with old code
00:59:31	Torne	oh, wait
00:59:37	Torne	what you just said appears selfcontradictory )
00:59:52	saratoga	well, git commit zero
00:59:58	Torne	yah, sorry
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01:00:00	Torne	i misinterpreted.
01:00:03	saratoga	so it starts at like r31000 or something
01:00:24	saratoga	i should say 31000 indexed :)
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01:00:44	Torne	anyway, i do still have an idea of how to figure out where in the branch structure you are, and derive an appropriate number from that which is not just a linear count, but also knows the difference between release/trunk, and knows that the current trunk is v3.12-dev or similar.
01:01:02	Torne	it's not impossible, though you pretty much do need to constrain the script to only being run against an actual mirror of the "main" repository
01:01:03	saratoga	ah nice
01:01:14	Torne	i.e. builds developers do will still just be a hash
01:01:21	saratoga	fine with me, i don't care what custom builds are numbered as
01:01:30	Torne	i just haven't actually done it
01:01:35	saratoga	fair enough
01:01:37	Torne	i wrote the outline of it and it prints the right thing in some static cases
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01:01:50	Torne	but it doesn't work for arbitrary branches, or arbitrary points on trunk
01:02:15	Torne	it's on my todo list
01:02:18	Torne	but.. my attention span sucks
01:05:52	jhMikeS	ok, sync the replaygain thing time...
01:09:26	jhMikeS	how do you force a push into the same gerrit patch if you just took an arbitrary tree and worked on it separately?
01:10:15	Torne	put the same Change-Id: on it
01:10:21	jhMikeS	cool, thanks
01:10:35	Torne	make sure you hav e ablank line before the end of ht emessage and that line
01:11:19	Torne	there is a ref you cna push to as well, but i recommend against finding out what it is, becaus eyou would have to remember to do that every time in future
01:11:28	Torne	adding the change-id once takes care of the patch even if you amend it :)
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01:21:08	*	jhMikeS isn't sure about this. Why define new RBCODEC_ constants and change things to bool, etc. instead of just making those constants available for all?
01:25:49	*	jhMikeS just goes after moving the enum into the relevant lib header
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01:27:04	jhMikeS	unless bloody hwcodec needs that
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08:30:53	CIA-44	Commit 5f37840 in rockbox by Michael Sevakis: Warble must have a call to dsp_init before setting options or using it.
08:33:35	CIA-44	5f37840 build result: All green
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11:12:42	MarcAndersen	Hi. I have a creative zen x-fi player and I really would like to get rockbox on it. I have searched around trying to find something but I couldn't. If someone can help me how to proceed that would be great.
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11:37:37	pamaury	MarcAndersen: I am the one porting rockbox to imx233 based player, the zen x-fi is one of them but unfortunately it will not be easy to port rockbox to it
11:39:22	MarcAndersen	but why not? by the way I also have a sansa clip plus which I bought at accessible electronics because I am blind. I just like the zen because of the speaker
11:39:30	pamaury	contrary to the zen x-fi2 and 3, it is not based on the standard SDK of the vendor and it doesn't have a (known) recovery mode, so a port will need lots of reverse engineering and will be risky. One day I might port rockbox to it but currently I'm working on the x-fi2/3
11:39:58	MarcAndersen	oh ok thanks a lot
11:40:05	pamaury	But I agree that is it a nice player
11:40:12	pamaury	*it is
11:41:39	MarcAndersen	if you do port it, i would like to try a test build. can you contact me if you do?
11:42:26	pamaury	sure, pm me your email address and I'll do it
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12:07:24	CIA-44	Commit 84355f3 in rockbox by Dominik Riebeling: (Author: Wieland Hoffmann) brickmania: Disable resuming after game over
12:10:14	CIA-44	84355f3 build result: All green
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12:40:39	B_Marquis	Hello, all!
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12:45:21	bertrik	hi
12:48:37	B_Marquis	How are you?
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12:53:10	B_Marquis	I'm deeply sorry, but is anybody here to help?
12:53:24	wodz	B_Marquis: just ask the question
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12:55:16	B_Marquis	Again, apologies. I've been trying to install rockbox on my Ipod 5th Gen. It installs sucessfully, and I safely remove my device, but everytime it loads, it gives me an error that I should restore the software using itunes. I have tried the automatic and manual way, but to no avail.
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12:57:20	wodz	B_Marquis: I am not ipod expert. I think Torne is the proper person to ask
12:58:53	B_Marquis	Thank you anyway. I appreciate it.
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14:57:08	bluebrother	B_Marquis: how did you install Rockbox? And what OS are you using?
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15:28:54	wodz	mortalis: have you tested bootloader from HEAD?
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15:37:25	mortalis	wodz: Yes, it's ok
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15:40:38	wodz	mortalis: Good, from my point of view you can tag and release bootloaders then
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16:00:36	mortalis	wodz: Should i create tag for every target or only one for rk27xx?
16:00:52	wodz	for every target
16:01:06	wodz	you can do this only for hifimans though
16:01:20	wodz	rk27generic is sort of playground
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16:12:53	CIA-44	Commit a3e3791 in rockbox by Andrew Ryabinin: rk27xx: Print rockbox version in bootloader.
16:14:20	mortalis	hm, seems tags wasn't created
16:15:37	CIA-44	a3e3791 build result: All green
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16:20:06	mortalis	http://pastebin.com/wjn54sYg what does it mean?
16:20:38	wodz	Torne:^
16:20:39	mortalis	i get this when trying to git push −−tags
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16:40:54	mortalis	wodz: btw, 2bafda commit doesn't fix ROLO
16:41:53	mortalis	wodz: I mean OF still couldn't be loaded using rolo
16:45:18	wodz	true, but this is separate issue from bootloader not able to boot OF
16:55:23	Torne	mortalis: you need to ad yourself to the release group to be able to push a tag
16:55:52	Torne	mortalis: http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/admin/groups/8,members
16:58:23	mortalis	thx
16:59:43	Torne	you may want to remove yourself when you are done to prevent doing it by mistake, but that's up to you :)
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18:46:10	TheLemonMan	pamaury: got it working :)
18:46:28	pamaury	TheLemonMan: what is working ?
18:46:46	TheLemonMan	the imx233 codebase
18:47:02	pamaury	on your target ? (which target is it ?)
18:47:05	TheLemonMan	there are some silghtly issues with power/usb tho
18:47:07	pamaury	great :)
18:47:15	TheLemonMan	yessir, its the 3700 target
18:47:56	pamaury	That's very good news. I'm looking forward the modifications.
18:48:36	pamaury	On the down side, I plan to change quite a fews things on the imx233 codebase to make it more uniform, and have a more consistent register naming system. I hope it won't break it too much :-/
18:48:46	pamaury	do you have a picture ? :P
18:50:35	TheLemonMan	hrm, sadly no
18:52:48	pamaury	is your target on the wiki ? It would be nice if you could describe it in a similar way as the CreativeZenXFi/2/3 and SansaFuzePlus
18:54:06	TheLemonMan	id like to get farther in the port before adding it to the wiki, im not sure i can work on it enough time till summer
18:56:30	pamaury	don't really matter, just posting the photos of the internal if you have some and what you know about it is already nice
18:56:37	pamaury	*it doesn't
18:57:20	TheLemonMan	lebellium had made some photos of the inner components for me, i must ask him when he comes back
18:57:58	pamaury	ok
18:58:22	pamaury	what is the internal storage ? sd ? nand ?
18:59:14	TheLemonMan	nand, i have a working implementation of a gpmi driver
18:59:28	TheLemonMan	it just needs ecc support and a nice api
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19:00:16	pamaury	and a ftl drive r?
19:00:18	pamaury	*driver
19:01:10	TheLemonMan	i hope its a whimory ftl so i can steal some code but didnt recognize the struct
19:01:28	TheLemonMan	once i get usb working ill do a full dump and look at it better
19:01:42	pamaury	usb is not working ?
19:02:28	TheLemonMan	it powers off when connecting to the host
19:02:29	pamaury	that's strange since I got usb working on my stmp3700 target as a proof of concept but it wasn't rockbox code, perhaps the usbphy init is different
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19:07:16	TheLemonMan	the regs are matching, HW_USBPHY_PWD has a silghtly different bitfield
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19:08:50	pamaury	hmm, perhaps some power regs then
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19:24:06	pamaury	lebellium: TheLemonMan told me you have the photos of the device
19:24:13	pamaury	(see the logs)
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19:26:17	pamaury	I have sound on the X-Fi3 !! \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
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19:37:08	saratoga	is this the one without a FTL?
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19:40:29	pamaury	yes, SD interface
19:40:44	pamaury	the X-Fi2 is the one using the nand and the FTL
19:40:52	pamaury	and a touchscreen
19:41:39	saratoga	so the Xfi 3 should be relatively close to the fuze+ ?
19:41:50	Strife89	o/
19:42:02	pamaury	yes, it's quite close
19:42:46	pamaury	the main differences are: emmc vs sd for internal storage, touch buttons instead of touchpad and the screen.
19:42:59	saratoga	buttons are nice
19:44:18	pamaury	the buttons are nice but the settings for them could probably be better. On the other hand these are quite complex
19:49:56	saratoga	which settings?
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19:53:18	saratoga	so i just looped playback for about 15 hours on my Clip+ off the SD card and its still going
19:53:37	saratoga	i guess if there is some SD issue, its not happening with my hardware or my card
19:54:02	saratoga	FS #12660 looks interesting
19:54:02	fs-bluebot	http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12660 Panic error on USB connection [AMSv1] (bugs, unconfirmed)
19:54:09	mrrhq	Hi, i'm trying to find a manual or instructions and a way for cross-compiling Rockbox apps for the UI Simulator. Does anyone know this information?
19:54:24	saratoga	unmasked IRQ 3 "INT_USB" sounds bad
19:54:47	saratoga	mrrhq: you mean building the UI sim?
19:55:02	saratoga	its built like any other rockbox build, just during configure chose sim instead of main build
19:55:03	funman	saratoga: hmm it s my fgault
19:55:14	funman	i did rename the USB interrupt handler, but only for AMSv2
19:55:20	mrrhq	saratoga: I already built the sim, but I want to build most of the apps for it.
19:55:26	funman	it should be renamed INT_USB_FUNC in amsv1 driver too
19:55:33	saratoga	mrrhq: the sim includes all apps
19:55:45	saratoga	funman: and no one noticed until now?
19:55:56	funman	it was 2 days ago i think
19:56:02	saratoga	oh
19:56:17	funman	I renamed it so it mkatches the name used by nano2g
19:56:36	mrrhq	saratoga: I must have an out-of-date Git or soemthing. Sorry, I'll figure out how to resolve that. I'm trying to port more Lua apps to Rockbox.
19:57:07	saratoga	mrrhq: rockbox plugins are built with the main build at the same time, so when you compile the UI sim you get all plugins too
19:57:29	funman	saratoga: let me test the fix on clipv1
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19:57:54	saratoga	they're not actually portable between compiles, so you (usually) have to rebuild plugins whenever you recompile the sim or target
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20:00:01	saratoga	mrrhq: by the way, what were you looking at with lua?
20:01:37	mrrhq	saratoga: Oh, when I have more free time, I was going to port more Lua games to Rockbox/Clip Zip.
20:02:25	saratoga	oh cool
20:02:34	saratoga	how compatible is rockbox lua with other people's lua code?
20:02:50	saratoga	i know for instance some of the creative mp3 players have elaborate lua plugins available
20:03:22	mrrhq	Not really much. I don't think Rockbox's Lua plugin even support floating point numbers and certain libraries.
20:05:57	saratoga	we don't have floating point hardware, but i wonder if floating point emulation would be feasible
20:06:08	saratoga	plugins should be able to compile that in via gcc
20:07:10	saratoga	could probably ask mcuelenaere about that and see if there was a reason other then that fp emulation is very slow
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20:08:45	mrrhq	Well, if you define any FP operation in Lua, RB will just throw an error message. AFAIK.
20:09:09	B_Marquis	bluebrother: Are you still here? I noticed you asked a question about how I installed Rockbox. I did the utility, first, then I did the manual installation on Windows 7 64-bit.
20:09:32	saratoga	mrrhq: is lua a strongly typed language or do variables just default to int?
20:10:42	mrrhq	Not at all. Lua is very lineient and flexible, while still maintaining power.
20:11:08	saratoga	so what actually fails, trying to call math library functions, or even simple things like 1.0+2.1
20:11:33	mrrhq	I've still had problems though, getting Lua scripts to work with AwesomeWM every once in awhile.
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20:12:11	mrrhq	Catching errors and debugging (for me) is still a bit harder.
20:13:01	mrrhq	saratoga: I'm not really sure, yet.
20:14:53	CIA-44	Commit 58dd21d in rockbox by Andrew Ryabinin: hm60x: Calibrated discharge curve.
20:17:27	bluebrother	B_Marquis: do you have Itunes installed?
20:17:28	CIA-44	58dd21d build result: 8 errors, 0 warnings (Andrew Ryabinin committed)
20:18:34	B_Marquis	I had iTunes 10 installed, but the first time installation failed, 10 couldn't recover my iPod, so I uninstalled it and used the 2006-06-28 updater.
20:19:11	bluebrother	hmm.
20:19:33	saratoga	missing semicolon?
20:19:35	bluebrother	itunes could interfere with bootloader installation. I don't see why that should cause the ipod needing to get restored though
20:19:38	CIA-44	Commit b6f8a01 in rockbox by Andrew Ryabinin: Missing semicolon.
20:20:34	saratoga	:)
20:20:55	bluebrother	is the ipod in some kind of working condition right now? I.e. did you manage to get it some kind of restored?
20:22:15	CIA-44	b6f8a01 build result: All green
20:23:44	mrrhq	So I previously used git pull instead of git pull −−rebase before I looked at UsingGit. I wonder what the difference was. (I'm really bad at using Git).
20:23:46	B_Marquis	I always can restore the ipod. it's in full working condition right now.
20:24:39	bluebrother	ok, and you have tried installing Rockbox after uninstalling Itunes (and of course rebooting Windows after uninstallation?
20:24:52	bluebrother	and that gives you the same non-working state again?
20:25:39	CIA-44	Commit d7ead70 in rockbox by Rafaël Carré: AMSv1: rename USB interrupt handler
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20:28:05	B_Marquis	I do not think I rebooted windows. That's stupid of me. I'll try it right now! Thank you!
20:28:42	Arsin	Hey, I have an issue with my clip+ and rockbox it works well without a sd cardm but when I add an sd card it sometimes freezes
20:28:52	Arsin	The sd card is formatted to FAT32
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20:29:28	Arsin	I also bought the sd card from SanDisk, so I don't think the card is faulty
20:32:40	Arsin	It freezes when I'm at the now playing screen, when I'm trying to change a song
20:32:48	saratoga	Arsin: a few people have reported that over the last couple months, but my player and card work fine
20:32:56	saratoga	do you know when it started happening, or did it always happen?
20:33:42	Arsin	I got the clip+, tested it out was listening to music then it crahsed (Not rockbox)
20:33:55	Arsin	Thought it was weird, but said "Hey why not go to rockbox now anyways"
20:34:00	Arsin	Did that, still crashes
20:34:10	Arsin	but with no sd card it seems to be fine
20:34:16	saratoga	oh so it happens with the sandisk software too?
20:34:41	saratoga	maybe not a regression in our driver then
20:34:41	Arsin	It happened 1/1 times I used the sandisk software
20:35:02	saratoga	probably easiest to just send the card back and get a replacement
20:35:18	Arsin	I'm formatting the card now and then I'll do an error check
20:35:26	Arsin	See what happens after all that is done
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20:37:43	saratoga	also maybe try a second card from a cell phone or something in case its a bad sd slot on your player
20:38:01	Arsin	Ya I have a second sd card in right now
20:38:05	Arsin	I just updated the database
20:38:19	Arsin	TOld me to restart, and now it's possibly frozen on the shutting down screen
20:38:28	Arsin	It's been on for 3-4min now
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20:39:39	saratoga	restart takes about 2 second normally, so yeah that is pretty frozen
20:41:28	Jackobytey	Question about Clip Zip build: Do inline controls on earphones work can anyone tell me?
20:42:19	funman	if by inline controls you mean volume wheel yes, else no
20:42:53	saratoga	its just an ordinary headphone jack
20:43:32	Jackobytey	Meant pause/play, etc. Was unsure. Thanks.
20:43:59	saratoga	through a headphone jack?
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20:45:41	Jackobytey	Ya. Works on android build. Just wanted to know whether Zip was same before I ordered new earphones. It's not so I can save myself 5 bucks.
20:45:59	mrrhq	What I do is I just clip it to my belt loophole and just use the buttons there.
20:46:13	saratoga	i guess you have some kind of proprietary connector with more pins that combines the headphone jack and remote jack?
20:46:24	mrrhq	And for some reason that sentence came out oddly.
20:46:29	mrrhq	Lol.
20:46:41	Arsin	clip+ users, is the headphone jack 'tight'
20:46:51	Arsin	Mine is, I was just wondering if that is standard
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20:47:37	saratoga	yeah its pretty right
20:47:38	saratoga	tight
20:50:32	mrrhq	Just begging for a "that's what she said" joke.
20:50:34	Arsin	Alright, thanks
20:50:37	Arsin	lol
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20:54:17	shamus	anyone else havign issues charging their clip +? I seam to be having a hard time getting mine to charge. it looks like it's chargign but it fails to reach 100 and drops to about 94 or so prity fast
20:55:37	shamus	odd it just charged for me. might just be tempermental
20:55:53	shamus	seams to not like beinmg left plugged in overnight
20:58:39	Jackobytey	saratoga: mrrhq: funman: Thanks for help. Can order now.
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21:03:12	saratoga	i think the 94% thing is just the calibration for the clip+ battery
21:03:23	saratoga	IIRC it uses the clip v1 curve, which might be slightly different
21:03:55	saratoga	we could just lower the 100% value a bit so that it stays up there longer
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21:06:20	shamus	the odd thing is it's up to 100% after a short charge and seams to be holdign there but if i leave it plugged in overnight insted of trickle charging and stoping bwhen charged it seams to be buring power some how
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21:07:33	shamus	would be nice if it powered off after reaching a full charge and no disk reads or writed from x amount of time
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21:39:15	saratoga	when its plugged in its not using battery power
21:39:44	saratoga	so no point in turning off
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21:53:48	saratoga_	anyone with a nano1g want to try and reproduce FS #12657 ?
21:53:48	fs-bluebot	http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12657 ThinBasic causes panic on Nano 1g (bugs, unconfirmed)
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21:54:00	saratoga_	i'm curious how a theme can cause a crash
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21:57:21	bertrik	me too
21:57:39	bertrik	is it intended to be by design that a theme cannot make rockbox crash?
21:59:27	AlexP	I have a theme that freezes Rockbox :)
21:59:42	AlexP	I haven't got round to investigating what in it though
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22:01:11	bertrik	something fishy is going on, I think I've seen crashes around USB plug/unplug that seemed more likely with some themes
22:01:20	saratoga_	since that theme works fine in the sim, its probably not broken
22:01:40	saratoga_	i'm assuming its either some memory corruption/allocation problem
22:01:41	bertrik	also the code that broke mr100 playback was related to theming/skinning, not to playback
22:01:57	saratoga_	perhaps we have some overwritten buffer?
22:02:23	bertrik	must be something like that I guess
22:02:27	saratoga_	would explain why the sim and device work differently, different memory map
22:03:09	saratoga_	the memory address in the error message might be interesting
22:03:18	saratoga_	we could check that function to see where its writing to
22:03:40	funman	there s an old report of a theme breaking the zip
22:04:37	saratoga_	FS #12639
22:04:37	fs-bluebot	http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12639 lebellium Samsung-like theme for Clip Zip: WPS doesn't load properly and USB not working (bugs, unconfirmed)
22:04:55	saratoga_	When you load the theme for the 1st time, the WPS will never load properly (failsafe). The workaround is to turn off the device and turn it on again and then the WPS will always load properly until you reload the theme for some reasons (trying another theme and revert back to mine etc).
22:05:03	saratoga_	that does sound a lot like memory corruption
22:05:22	funman	perhaps adding sentinels in the allocated memory might help ?
22:05:36	bertrik	funman, exactly what I was thinking
22:05:48	saratoga_	how do those work?
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22:05:53	funman	or valgrind ing the sim
22:07:15	funman	saratoga_: you allocate a bit more memory and write a known byte at the end, then regularly check if this memory has not been changed
22:07:23	saratoga_	ah
22:08:08	saratoga_	i wonder if this is related to the buflib changes for themes and fonts
22:08:23	saratoga_	perhaps we have a use after free problem
22:08:49	bertrik	a good time to check would be after each task switch
22:09:11	bertrik	if the check fails, it's either the last task or an interrupt
22:10:37	bertrik	I think valgrind also has some mechanism to detect use-after-free
22:11:31	saratoga_	i wonder if the rare but unexplained crashes on USB mount could be related
22:11:37	saratoga_	USB unmount rather
22:11:49	saratoga_	some double allocated memory when the USB buffers are released
22:12:17	CIA-44	Commit a32cbf3 in rockbox by Dominik Riebeling: Only update mountpoint on Accept when empty.
22:13:32	funman	my clipv1 had a data abort whem i plugged usb, it worked on the second time tho
22:14:44	CIA-44	a32cbf3 build result: All green
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22:31:08	bertrik	would be nice to have some sanity checks on the buffers, but also quite tricky to implement probably
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22:39:11	TheLemonMan	pamaury: can you please remove unused bitfields from the headers ?
22:47:38	CIA-44	Commit 57a20d2 in rockbox by Michael Sevakis: Make DSP's replaygain independent of global_settings.
22:50:43	CIA-44	57a20d2 build result: 18 errors, 0 warnings (Michael Sevakis committed)
22:51:14	pamaury	TheLemonMan: I will have a look at it, but I usually add them on demand so most of them are actually use
22:51:15	pamaury	d
22:52:28	TheLemonMan	as im trying to hunt the usb problem but get lost into the defines
22:53:11	funman	bertrik: i pasted a patch to implement read-only sections with the MMU
22:53:33	pamaury	I'll have a look at usb and see if there are major differences on this point between the two cvhips
22:53:36	pamaury	*chips
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22:59:41	funman	bertrik: http://paste.ubuntu.com/958463/
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23:00:04	funman	http://paste.ubuntu.com/958468/ : I cant run the simn under valgrind
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23:06:19	wodz	funman: Is this the same when sim is compiled with sdl threads?
23:06:36	TheLemonMan	pamaury: gave a quick look and they seem to be fine, id blame the power section
23:06:39	funman	i didnt try
23:07:04	funman	i dont understand that it gives an invalid write error, when reading a global variable (and writing to stack)
23:07:27	funman	how di i select sdl threads ?
23:08:42	funman	it's a configure −−option
23:09:28	wodz	pass −−sdl-threads to configure me think
23:09:46	funman	yeah, it librbcodec doesnt link
23:10:05	funman	/home/fun/rockbox/lib/rbcodec/dsp/dsp_core.c:150: undefined reference to `find_first_set_bit'
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23:14:07	funman	it s ordering problem
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23:14:57	funman	librbcodec should be before libfirmware
23:15:07	funman	jhMikeS: ^
23:15:49	funman	sdl threads : rockbox starts fine
23:15:55	funman	cabbiev2.bmp isnt installed though
23:16:37	jhMikeS	funman: ??
23:16:48	funman	didnt you make changes to librbcodec ?
23:16:56	jhMikeS	si
23:17:21	funman	linking order should be -lrbcodec -lfirmnware because ffs.o is in libfirmware and librbcodec depends on it
23:17:40	CIA-44	Commit bde57c5 in rockbox by Marcin Bukat: rk27xx: ungate all clocks before jumping into rolo'ed code. This should fix booting OF this way
23:18:07	jhMikeS	funman: haven't changed anything with linking
23:18:33	CIA-44	Commit 8f9e3b1 in rockbox by Michael Sevakis: Still need settings.h in dsp_misc.c for now for software volume.
23:19:09	bluebrother	jhMikeS: sounds like a −−as-needed issue
23:19:20	jhMikeS	what broke?
23:19:27	bluebrother	we had this with Rockbox Utility in the past. See .describe d71d537b
23:19:28	fs-bluebot	Don't search for libspeex on Windows and Mac. by Dominik Riebeling (from Sun, 5 Sep 2010 10:27:39 +0000)
23:20:21	CIA-44	bde57c5 build result: 18 errors, 3 warnings (Marcin Bukat committed)
23:20:26	bluebrother	(unless I got the current problem wrong)
23:20:36	funman	http://paste.ubuntu.com/958515/ interesting...
23:21:00	funman	bluebrother: no i think it is juste that recent gcc require a specific linking order
23:21:51	bluebrother	funman: well, recent gcc might have changed the default ...
23:22:52	bluebrother	but −−as-needed pretty much requires a specific linking order :)
23:23:07	CIA-44	8f9e3b1 build result: All green
23:24:44	funman	if object a depends on object b then a must be specified before
23:25:08	bluebrother	well, yes. If you use −−as-needed :)
23:25:25	bluebrother	which seems to become the default in more cases these days
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23:26:47	mortalis	Zagor: could you upload hifiman's bootloaders to download server?
23:27:07	Zagor	sure. where do I find them?
23:27:19	mortalis	https://www.box.com/s/8a43ffa40918445fdb2f
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23:28:13	bluebrother	anyone familiar with creating debian / ubuntu packages?
23:28:41	jhMikeS	the use of find_first_set_bit in dsp_core.c cause it to start acting up?
23:29:04	Zagor	mortalis: done
23:29:31	mortalis	thanks
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23:30:10	funman	bluebrother: is −−as-needed only for dynamic libraries ?
23:30:30	funman	bluebrother: i have made a few deb packages
23:33:10	bluebrother	not sure about that
23:36:01	funman	indeed I see very weird behaviour in the sim with valgrind
23:36:04	funman	JdGordon: ping
23:36:39	funman	http://paste.ubuntu.com/958549/
23:36:56	bluebrother	the web suggests this only affects dynamically linked libraries
23:37:23	bluebrother	but I haven't found anything I'd consider a definite answer
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23:40:30	funman	ah CORE_LIBS is not ordered
23:40:40	bluebrother	that backtrace looks like fun :)
23:41:53	funman	(gdb) print element.children
23:41:53	funman	$7 = 20450229081866240
23:42:03	JdGordon	funman: ?
23:42:03	funman	very fertile element
23:42:32	funman	JdGordon: i can reproduce FS #12639 in a sim built with sdl threads
23:42:32	fs-bluebot	http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12639 lebellium Samsung-like theme for Clip Zip: WPS doesn't load properly and USB not working (bugs, unconfirmed)
23:42:46	funman	valgrind show fucked up things inside skin code
23:42:55	funman	on USB unmount (key u)
23:42:57	JdGordon	does valgrind work at all with it?
23:43:03	funman	yeah
23:43:12	funman	with configure −−sdl-threads
23:43:25	funman	the generic UNIX threads confuse it
23:43:28	*	bluebrother whisperes something about unit tests
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23:43:51	funman	bluebrother: it's just a matter of writing the test and adding it to the build server no?
23:43:59	JdGordon	funman: comment in the task and bug me next week, I'm not going to be arond much this week at all
23:44:19	funman	hm anyu way to subscribe you to the task?
23:44:54	JdGordon	i get all the FS emails, but i will forget about it by then so you'll need to remind me :)
23:45:04	funman	:/
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23:45:14	funman	who else works on skin engine ?
23:45:40	bluebrother	funman: well, ideally we have unit test for all code that we can test on-host and a special build rule that builds and runs those
23:46:09	bluebrother	but given the fact that even I don't manage to notably increase the number of tests for Rockbox Utility ...
23:46:24	bluebrother	still, it would be a good thing to simply start with it. IMO :)
23:46:38	funman	for this specific case it needs user interaction
23:47:11	pamaury	TheLemonMan: some fields in the power regs are differennt between targets
23:47:59	pamaury	if I were you I would remove all the powermgmt-imx233.c code because most fields there just don't exist in the stmp3700
23:48:29	bluebrother	hmm. Has jlbiasini been around lately?
23:49:18	funman	JdGordon: done (and assigned the task to you)
23:49:25	pamaury	bluebrother: not really, he told me by mail that be didn't had much time recently
23:49:41	bluebrother	hmm :(
23:49:47	saratoga	is there any clue whats happening on USB disconnect?
23:49:56	funman	saratoga: theme loading i would guess
23:49:59	bluebrother	he wanted to look into a ChangeLog dialog for Rockbox Utility.
23:50:06	bluebrother	guess I should give it a go myself then
23:50:11	saratoga	so an invalid memory pointer or something?
23:50:36	pamaury	bluebrother: try to send him a mail, perhaps he did something
23:51:14	bluebrother	his mail address should be in the tracker, right?
23:51:18	lebellium	just to let you know guys: I'm currently porting my theme to the Fuze and like for the Clip Zip and R0/Fuze+ theme, the WPS won't load properly at first...
23:51:47	funman	saratoga: the filename in my backtrace looks like invalid pointer
23:52:17	saratoga	that might explain the crash after USB unmount issue indeed :)
23:52:22	saratoga	nice find
23:52:23	CIA-44	Commit f5d9a45 in rockbox by Michael Sevakis: Should've had dsp_replaygain_set_gains as static for now...
23:52:50	funman	we should advice developers to use valgrind
23:53:04	funman	fixing the sim build might be a first step
23:54:15	bluebrother	yes.
23:54:29	bluebrother	btw, anybody else having problems with the player sim?
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23:55:22	CIA-44	f5d9a45 build result: All green
23:55:40	saratoga	how does valgrind do its analysis? i understand its a VM, but how does that help debug?
23:57:19	funman	saratoga: valgrind is lot of tools, the default is memcheck
23:57:38	funman	there are also tools for threads interaction analysis
23:58:04	funman	i think it keeps track of malloc/free and if memory has been initialized or not (including stack i think)

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