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#rockbox log for 2012-08-07

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00:21:24amiconnThe text view does incremental loading
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00:28:06donsdIs the Sansa Clip Zip supported. It is not listed at
00:28:46lebelliumit is listed as unstable
00:28:52lebelliumbut works pretty well
00:29:16donsdlebellium: Thanks. I'm not technical, should I wait?
00:29:54lebelliumno you shouldn't, it is stable enough for daily use
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00:30:53lebelliumactually I don't know why the clip zip is not considered as stable yet
00:31:00[Saint_]were you to wait, it could be a _very_ long wait.
00:31:08donsdI would be using Zip for Podcasts and Audiobooks mainly.
00:31:22[Saint_]lebellium: installation, iiuc.
00:31:42lebelliumah ok
00:31:45lebelliumso nothing major
00:31:46[Saint_]Or, does RbUtil support the Clip Zip now?
00:31:51donsdsaint: I'm very impatient, but also very limited brain power.
00:32:46[Saint_]donsd: That's fine, but, with the nature of the project...the workflow could mean that it will achieve the status of stable anywhere between now, and never.
00:32:51lebelliumdonsd: don't wait for a stable status, the port works well (except USB connection sometimes), and it can be easily installed without the utility
00:33:51[Saint_]My understanding of the requirements for stable are: Works as expected, has a complete manual, and can be installed using RbUtil
00:33:59donsdlebellium: USB connection? I could still charge battery though? And transfer files.
00:34:09lebelliumOf course
00:34:25lebelliumif it doesn't work well enough with RB you can use the USB connection of the official firmware
00:34:49[Saint_]Even if you couldn't do so with Rockbox, duakl-boot allows you to boot the original firmware. So you could transfer files from there.
00:34:49donsdOkay, will start reading manuals and website info. Thanks, guys.
00:35:52lebelliumoh and actually the clip zip is supported by the RB utility
00:36:00lebelliumI almost forgot I use it to update the build lol
00:36:44donsdlebellium: Does that mean file transfering would work through USB?
00:36:57[Saint_]lebellium: Ah, I see, thanks. I wasn't quite sure.
00:37:07[Saint_]donsd: yes.
00:38:47lebellium[Saint_]: the clip zip is considered as "Instable" in RB utility but works though
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00:48:14funmanwhat is missing is mostly the manual
00:48:31saratogaand i guess figuring out whats up with the occasional USB issues people have
00:48:48funmanyeah but i guess this applies to the other amsv2 as well
00:50:19saratogait seems a lot worse on the zip though
00:50:30saratogaand also some people have reported issues with themes breaking depending on USB insert
00:50:41saratogaso i guess there is likely some memory corruption between theme and usb
00:51:07funmanhmm i thought a theme problem was fixed by JdGordon already
00:51:16saratogai think some weirdness still exists
00:51:21saratogalebellium could probably say more
00:51:53lebelliumthe Zip doesn't like my theme :D
00:52:12saratogadoes it work in the sim?
00:52:44lebelliumthe only issue remaining with my theme is USB connection and I haven't tested that in the sim
00:53:19saratogai guess nows a good time to commit
00:53:51CIA-138Commit d46b090 in rockbox by Michael Giacomelli: Introduce logging to disk feature into rockbox.
00:54:02saratoganow i need to go and enable it on specific devices
00:54:20[Saint_]Well done, saratoga.
00:55:49saratogaits unbelievable how much i hate git
00:56:44[Saint_]I did too, initially. Now I find it unbelievable how braindead subversion is.
00:56:46CIA-138d46b090 build result: All green
00:59:13saratogaPLATFORM_NATIVE is all the device targets?
01:02:05saratoga#if CONFIG_PLATFORM == PLATFORM_NATIVE && !defined(SIMULATOR) && !defined(BOOTLOADER)
01:02:07saratogathat look good?
01:02:36saratogaalso, should I include HWCODEC? seems like it would be useful but maybe not worth the binary size?
01:04:34JdGordonif it is useful (and used) then it should be enabled
01:04:44saratogaamiconn: i'm going to enable logging to disk for HWCODEC, if you think its not worth the binary size please disable it
01:06:32saratogajust a heads up, I didn't make dummy defines yet for the logdisk stuff, so don't put them in code that gets compiled for app builds yet
01:09:14CIA-138Commit 97c1dc0 in rockbox by Michael Giacomelli: Enable logdiskf to for all device targets, but not bootloaders or application
01:09:25saratogahope that doesn't break anything
01:12:07CIA-13897c1dc0 build result: 6 errors, 9 warnings (Michael Giacomelli committed)
01:15:21JdGordonoh, it might be nice if it splashes "error/warning logged" every so often when it does a log so the user knows to check
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01:17:05saratogaso the database tool defines platform_target????
01:21:00CIA-138Commit 633dd49 in rockbox by Michael Giacomelli: Remove copy/pasted preprocessor defines that shouldn't have been included.
01:21:41saratogaJdGordon: i'm not really sure how to do that
01:21:51saratogaor at least to do it safely
01:22:01amayerJdGordon: i was going to say there should be an option/setting to output errors to screen
01:22:09JdGordonarg, different threads?
01:23:01saratogahmm i don't know
01:23:08saratogai guess the code could be called from anything thread
01:23:36CIA-138633dd49 build result: 10 errors, 0 warnings (Michael Giacomelli committed)
01:26:48CIA-138Commit 6f55433 in rockbox by Michael Giacomelli: Don't enable log to disk on PCTOOL builds since there is no disk to log to.
01:27:13saratogaJdGordon: ok now you can fix the theme code :)
01:29:27CIA-1386f55433 build result: All green
01:35:07saratogai guess putting some error logging in the USB code might be interesting too
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01:38:57saratogaalso could someone look at the codec.c/h changes in g#292 and tell me if i'm doing that right?
01:38:59fs-bluebotGerrit review #292 at : Introduce new logging system to codeclib. by Michael Giacomelli (changes/92/292/4)
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01:47:45saratogaif someone says its good, i'll push it
01:48:08saratogajust some basic logging for codecs, and a nice example of how the new logging system works
01:56:54amayerthere isnt a way to decide the color of the scroll bar is there?
01:57:03amayeri read the manual and googled it
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02:05:29saratogahmm something is wrong with the includes in that patch
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03:13:23webguest56Hi all, can i ask help for the download link for rockbox for htc evo 4g lte ? im searching already but still cant find... thanks a lot before
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03:16:59[Saint_]Are the build client files in git?
03:17:05[Saint_]If so, ...where? :-S
03:19:31JdGordonerr, yes they are but not the main repo i tinhk
03:19:57JdGordonthe www repo
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04:07:15[Saint] RaaA using API16 yet?
04:07:31[Saint]errr...RaaAoA, rather
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05:26:27[Saint]Hmmmmm...I thought that openjdk-7-jdk was supported for RaaAoA building now?
05:27:16[Saint]It seems that jarsigner isn't compatible
05:27:20[Saint]"jarsigner error: private key algorithm is not compatible with signature algorithm"
05:35:43[Saint]openjdk-6-jdk is fine.
05:36:53[Saint]gevaerts: (for the logs) Do I remember correctly that you added (or, fixed up(?)) support for openjdk-7-jdk/RaaAoA?
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10:14:22kugelwhy does the logging system exclude RaaA?
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10:54:48gevaerts[Saint]: yes. That message makes me suspect you have a private key generated by a previous attempt before those fixes
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11:49:52[Saint]gevaerts: fresh system.
11:50:04[Saint]First time I had ever tried to compile RaaA on this machine.
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11:50:27gevaertsNo other android-related building?
11:50:29[Saint]I kept getting that error until I installed openjdk-6-jdk
11:50:35[Saint]gevaerts: nope.
11:51:00gevaertsIn that case, it's your task to figure out what's wrong ;)
11:51:16[Saint]later tonight I'll set up a vm and try to debug it.
11:53:55[Saint]It was my intention to try to troubleshoot the issue later on anyway, I just wanted to check if my memory served me correctly and that openjdk-7-jdk was actually expected to work.
11:54:27gevaertsWell, "expected"... I'm not sure if anyone ever reported success
11:54:42[Saint]Sorry if that seemed like me saying "Hey, its broke, fix it!"
11:57:06gevaertsI committed some fixes back in June that I had expected would fix things, but things can go wrong I guess
11:57:13gevaertsThe file involved is .android/debug.keystore
11:57:45gevaertsIf that's not there, it should be regenerated, and that's the step that according to your output didn't do the right thing
11:58:08gevaertsSo that's the first thing to test I suspect: make sure it's not there, and try
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12:34:35wodzmortalis: ping
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12:39:01mortaliswodz: pong
12:41:44wodzmortalis: look at g306 - it needs adjustments for hifimans but you should get the concept. It is still not 100% correct as first logo is f*** up but after this first screen update everything work correctly. No artefacts, update speed is descent.
12:41:46fs-bluebotGerrit review #306 at : rk27xx lcd code rework by Marcin Bukat (changes/06/306/1)
12:42:34wodzif this will work on hifimans I'll be more then happy :-)
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12:44:56mortalisok, i'll take a look at it
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18:36:57bertrikfunman, I committed my opus work in the github of freqmod
18:37:24bertrikit has pre-skip now, also rewinds a bit further when seeking to skip the first 80 ms of audio
18:37:55bertrikand freqmod ported ogg seeking from speex to opus, although it doesn't always seem to work, e.g. when trying to seek to 0
18:38:06derfbertrik: \o/
18:38:14derfbertrik: Need any help debugging the seek to 0?
18:43:51bertrikderf, you can checkout the opus github from freqmod and experiment
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19:07:51CIA-138Commit 6b16ac1 in rockbox by Bertrik Sikken: (Author: Asier Arsuaga) FS #12725 - Basque translation
19:10:25CIA-1386b16ac1 build result: All green
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19:35:24wagnerfhi, is valgrind working with the rockboxui simulator ?
19:35:28wagnerfI got a lot of
19:35:33wagnerf"Thread creation failed. Retryingmake_context(): Operation not permitted"
19:36:52derfbertrik, freqmod: Not the real issue, but:
19:36:53derf if(abs(pos-curpos)>10000 && headerssize>0 && curoffset-headerssize>10000) {
19:37:15gevaertswagnerf: you might have more luck if you run configure with −−sdl-threads. Our default threading setup might not be very valgrind-friendly
19:37:25derfThe comment says "if seeking for more than 10sec" but pos-curpos is in units of 1/48000 seconds.
19:37:41wagnerfgevaerts, ok, i'll give it a try. thanks for the tip
19:37:43derfSo it's actually "if seeking for more than about half a second"
19:38:16derfErr, a fifth.
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19:59:47freqmodthe seeking code is very fast hacked from the speex.c file
20:00:16freqmodso it's not very supprising that it has corner cases which does not work
20:00:56freqmodbut I have started to work, and it is working well for me
20:00:57derffreqmod: Also, it'll take me a while to test, but it seems to me like the offset that's computed should have headersize added to it before passing it to ci->seek_buffer().
20:01:13derfAnd I don't understand the purpose of this check:
20:01:13derf if (ogg_page_granulepos(&og) == 0 && pos > 5000) {
20:01:16freqmodso I am not sure if i'll fix it very soon
20:02:42freqmodthe guessing code is particulary bad
20:03:00freqmodand not neccessary, so it is probably best to remove line 208-254
20:04:45freqmodthe test at line 208 is trying to figure out if we have enough data to take the avridge of the bytes read and the time and use as a base for guessing the location to jump to
20:04:48freqmodto seek faster
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20:10:53derffreqmod: Yes, I understood that bit.
20:11:25derfWhat I didn't understand was the granpos==0 && pos>5000 check afterwards.
20:14:11freqmodi think the meaning of that was to stop seeking if the stream seeked earlier than the first packet
20:14:24freqmodso it is probably wrong or not applicable for opus
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20:28:31Deasnot sure if someone is working on a port for Sony NWZ-A8000-Series but can someone put this link up to the wiki for some1 that is intresseted/have the skills to make a port?
20:29:13Deasfound the link during a random re-visit to rockbox
20:30:05Deasthis is also a pretty hefty list for sony players :p
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21:24:16funmanbertrik: freqmod: will you keep the gerrit patch in sync with github ?
21:24:34freqmodi will not :/
21:26:12funmanperhaps it's better to close the gerrit patch with a link to your github ?
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22:07:00bryguy_I don't have time to get registered in your bug tracking system but there are two pretty serious problems. First, the 64 bit graphical installer actually crashes X on my Fedora 16 desktop. Second, the development page still refers to the svn repository and makes no mention of git, it took a little forums searching to find where the repository lives now.
22:07:17bryguy_I'm trying to build a new copy of the installer from git right now and see if it still crashes X.
22:07:30funmanwhich development page ?
22:07:40bryguy_dev page I'm talking about is linked from the main page
22:08:40bryguy_the crash, by the way, happens when I try to select an item in one of the list menus
22:08:51bryguy_something weird with qt I'm guessing
22:09:12gevaertsI'd expect the fedora people to also be interested if it actually crashes X
22:10:24bryguy_A fresh-built copy of the current git code also crashes my X server, just confirmed.
22:11:47funmanyeah you should report it to fedora
22:12:05bryguy_I will... looking at the X logs now to see if I can see anything amiss.
22:12:30bryguy_Love rockbox by the way, had it on my Sansa in my car for years, flash drive is finally dying so I bought a clip+ to replace it and had these issues.
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22:29:36bryguy_just fyi the 32 bit version doesn't crash my ubuntu netbook
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22:45:49saratoga_how close are we to having opus in our builds?
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23:05:43funmanIIUC only seeking is missing ?
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23:07:04funman says speex seek code was used so I don't know
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23:44:13icheyneplease can someone give me wiki access?
23:44:22icheynemy wikiname is IainCheyne
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23:44:32icheyneI want to update the usefultools page
23:46:58gevaertsicheyne: done. Welcome!
23:47:26icheynethank you frank :)
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