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#rockbox log for 2012-08-18

00:05:07amayersaratoga: im trying to get it working on my local server before i start any work... im not sure what the setup is but im getting tons of errors on my local system.
00:05:15amayerill brb(eating dinner)
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00:46:28amayerscorche: who implemented the smarty engine?
00:50:45scorche|shi *think* much of the current theme site was done by MaurusCuelenaere
00:50:52scorche|shand rasher did a bit too
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00:51:39rasherI did the initial version, but most of the later changes/additions were done by other people
00:52:23rasherWell, all of them, pretty much. I have barely touched it after it started working "good enough"
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01:50:21amayerthis database class is jacked up. every time i fix one error 3 more pop up.
01:50:59amayer(for the theme site)
01:51:01amayerim not sure how it runs on the server but i cant get it to run on mine
01:51:27amayer(not saying your wrong) just saying there has to be an easier way to get the theme site running locally
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02:14:25amayerscorche: ping
02:14:34amayerscorche|sh: ping
02:15:17amayerif i give you a file can you test it on the server?
02:15:19amayeri dont want to commit it because idk if it will work on your server because your file didnt work on my server
02:15:36amayerbackup the old file, run my file, put old file back?
02:15:50scorche|shdepends on what this file is =)
02:16:09scorche|shemail it to me please - i am still at work, so i dont have time to mess with the server right now
02:16:52amayerits the database file i was having trouble with. if you want to read it first or have someone else read it i understand.(security and all that)
02:16:54amayerbut i dont want to develope with the database file that wont work on the themesite
02:17:28amayerwhats your email?
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11:45:15amiconnBleh. Current rockbox is broken.
11:45:38amiconnOn H1x0, loading a .cfg that enables voice causes a hard freeze, 100% reproducable
11:45:48amiconn(if voice was disabled before)
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14:35:23pamaurybertrik: ping
14:35:34bertrikhi pamaury
14:35:54pamauryany progress with the x-fi3 ? do you plan to work on it or not ?
14:36:31bertrikI'm currently not working on it, the focus on that got lost
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14:57:19pamaurybertrik: then can you send it back to me ? I'll try to push it to stable
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15:08:41[Saint]Where should I be looking for Samsung YP-R0 installation instructions?
15:09:33[Saint]Hmmm...aha, think I found it.
15:09:35pamauryhmm, libtremor doesn't compile anymore on my computer:
15:09:36pamaurylib/rbcodec/codecs/libtremor/asm_arm.h:28: error: can't find a register in class ‘GENERAL_REGS’ while reloading ‘asm’
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15:21:33pamaurystrange, it compiles with mastert but not with my branch which has absolutely no related changes
15:25:00CIA-7Commit ce54e74 in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: imx233: fix style
15:25:00CIA-7Commit 5191993 in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: imx233: fix comment
15:25:01CIA-7Commit 246c212 in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: imx233: small dma changes, update debug screen
15:27:25CIA-7246c212 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (Amaury Pouly committed)
15:40:46CIA-7Commit 4604e98 in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: imx233: rework i2c driver to fix dma issues
15:42:55CIA-74604e98 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (Amaury Pouly committed)
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17:28:36amayerscorche: ping
17:29:30maffeI have a suggestion: If battery is empty on powering up, show how long it lasted
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17:30:24amayermaffe: is that from when it was charged to 100% or from the % of the last change?
17:31:42[Saint]"if battery is empty on powering up" does one power up?
17:31:54maffeI’d like to see the data shown under System > Running time
17:32:14maffe[Saint]: Rockbox shows a warning and goes off again
17:32:37maffeTherefore I cannot get into the menu
17:33:13[Saint]right, because if the battery is empty...and Rockbox shut down, you should charge it.
17:33:49[Saint]it gives a little bit of buffer, but it generally means "charge now, don't try use it"
17:34:29amayerthere is a battery life add-on but you cant run any other add-ons while using it
17:34:45[Saint]if you want to k ow how long your battery lasts, do a battery bench.
17:35:12*gevaerts isn't sure at all if "Running time" works correctly on all targets these days
17:35:32[Saint]probably not, no.
17:35:42amayer"running time" on the ipod classic shows the running time for the current session
17:36:10gevaertsOn the other hand, *if* it works, showing that time when doing a low battery shutdown seems reasonable
17:36:11[Saint]amayer: it does this for all. its intended function.
17:36:11maffeFor me it seems to work (X5L)
17:36:40gevaertsWhat do you call "current session"?
17:37:00[Saint]wow...its the one other person in the world with an X5! :)
17:37:02amayeroh ok.
17:37:04amayerthe time between turn DAP on and turn DAP off
17:37:31gevaertsThat's not what it's supposed to show AFAIK. IIRC it's supposed to show time between charges
17:37:32maffe[Saint]: I know the battery benchmark, but I would have to enable it everytime I power it up?
17:37:43gevaertsWhich is tricky if you dual-boot at all
17:38:34[Saint]maffe: yes, but you can do this with autorock
17:38:39maffe[Saint]: with 64 GB SDXC :)
17:38:59gevaerts[Saint]: battery_bench really isn't meant to run every time
17:39:31[Saint]oh, I know. but it could.
17:39:44gevaertsNot in any practical way
17:39:56gevaertsIt has to stop to run any other plugin
17:40:16[Saint]ahhh...bum. yes, indeed.
17:40:20amayerwhat is AFAIK again?
17:40:21[Saint]I forgot that.
17:40:28maffeAnd reading the result is more complicated than System > Running time
17:40:37[Saint]amayer: ask google
17:40:40gevaertsAlso, I don't see how you're going to get the data out of it for that splash
17:40:44amayerboo.. alright
17:40:48gevaertsamayer: as far as I know
17:41:09amayergevaerts: thanks... just got it from google
17:42:55[Saint]I know its besides the point, but with an X5L, isn't it always going to be "a damn long time"? :)
17:44:00gevaertsNot especially, no
17:44:20maffeThe battery is kinda old
17:44:43[Saint]If the battery is in good health, it should last quite some time.
17:45:08gevaertsBuyersGuide says to expect 20 to 28 hours with a new battery. That's not bad, but also not exceptional these days
17:45:10maffeWell the battery benchmark gave me 42 hours or so
17:45:21maffeBut it seems self-discharge is quite high
17:47:07maffeIt should last 35 hours with the HDD, but with the SD card it lasts longer
17:47:37maffebut now I have a running time of 9 hours and battery is at 42 %
17:49:32maffeI replaced the battery about 3 years ago
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18:27:25CIA-7Commit 4908b8e in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: imx233: merge sd and mmc drivers, fix dma issues
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20:56:01bertrikThe archos recorder has been broken for some time, any plans to get that fixed?
20:57:21gevaertsIt basically needs a bootloader
20:58:51bertrikwas there once a time when the image fitted on an archos *uncompressed*?
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21:22:04Guest62277Hi, i'd like to know what are the common causes for bricking a mp3 player?
21:22:44bertrikturning it off during a firmware upgrade is one
21:23:11bertrikor trying a firmware upgrade with almost empty battery, causing ^
21:23:33bertrikor writing an incorrect firmware image
21:24:04bertriksometimes it just happens with no clear cause
21:24:33bertrikhardware being faulty / flaky can also make it happen
21:29:27Guest62277I'm more speaking about development fault, like buffer overflow or so on
21:30:41Guest62277Can it brick it or the firmware will "just" crash?
21:33:13bertrikI will likely just crash, but I guess this depends on the specific player, rockbox runs on lots of them, can't give a generic answer
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21:34:34Guest62277I'm going for a mod of the UI and haven't practiced C for a long time, it will be on a X5L.
21:35:54gevaertsDon't worry. The X5L is *very* hard to brick
21:36:11Guest62277I suppose that the UI simulator is only simulating the themes?
21:36:43Guest62277And not a complete emulator?
21:36:49gevaertsEverything except the hardware drivers, really. There are some other things to look out for though
21:37:11gevaertsThings like available memory are not realistic in the sim
21:37:59Guest62277Roger that, thanks
21:38:04gevaertsFor UI work starting in the sim is a decent option though. Just don't expect never to have to try it on real hardwars
21:39:44Guest62277By UI work, i mean C modding, not on Lua side
21:40:01*gevaerts nods
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21:43:23Guest62277kk, understood :D
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21:52:54hillshumAny clues on building?
21:53:34gevaertshillshum: did you copy that tree from a FAT partition?
21:54:45hillshumDid a git clone a couple weeks ago I think. Should I reclone it? (on ext4)
21:55:26gevaertsWhat does "ls -l /home/hillshum/Code/rockbox/tools/bmp2rb" say?
21:56:43hillshum-rw-rw-r−− 1 hillshum hillshum 0 Aug 14 01:07 /home/hillshum/Code/rockbox/tools/bmp2rb
21:57:03gevaertsRight. Permissions seem to be gone somehow
21:57:16gevaertsAlso size...
21:58:30*hillshum clones a new tree
21:58:49gevaertsA fresh clone will solve this, but it would be good to find out what happened. That's definitely not normal
21:59:13hillshumI think my lappy overheated while compiling....
21:59:58gevaertsAh, right. A hard poweroff (or crash) at a bad moment could indeed explain this
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