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| 00:13:22 | amayer | im not sure if the forum thought http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,39117 was span or if there is just no content but there is nothing there but a title(like when a message is marked spam) |
| 00:14:00 | amayer | ps: if you could block "OnebyLyMn" from the forum for ALOT of spam that would be cool too |
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| 00:21:35 | wodz | Can I assume FS #12431 as something with potential of being integrated in trunk? I mean current SH toolchain has limitation that it doesn't support −−gc-sections and -r at the same time which leads to considerable binsize increase in case of my ELF work. |
| 00:21:37 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12431 SH gcc 4.6.2 with link-time optimization, for Archos targets (patches, new) |
| 00:23:30 | gevaerts | wodz: I don't see why not |
| 00:24:38 | wodz | Ok, so I'll build this toolchain and test SH relocs on my player then. This will leave MIPS only which will be tricky as I don't have hardware. |
| 00:29:36 | wodz | gevaerts: btw. have you had a chance to look at imageviewer build stuff? |
| 00:29:47 | gevaerts | Oh, no, sorry |
| 00:29:49 | * | gevaerts forgot |
| 00:29:55 | gevaerts | I'll have a look soon |
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| 00:32:48 | wodz | ok thanks |
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| 01:19:28 | SeekingHelp | Hi, I have an unresponsive Clip+. I was on the most recent version of Rockbox and the player would freeze on startup. It booted into the Sansa firmwire fine. I updated the Sansa firmware and reinstalled Rockbox, but the problem persisted. About an hour after that, the player became unresponsive. I left it plugged in to a wall outlet for 24 hours but there was no change. I have left it alone and unplugged for roughly 24 hours now. |
| 01:19:55 | SeekingHelp | if the battery still works)? |
| 01:20:32 | SeekingHelp | Is it possible to diagnose the problem ,or should I just leave it unplugged |
| 01:20:39 | SeekingHelp | and hope the battery runs out? |
| 01:20:49 | the-kyle | Is the clip+ unresponsive all the time? Did you try holding in the power button for about 15 seconds to force reset? |
| 01:21:42 | SeekingHelp | Yes. The force reset worked when Rockbox froze at boot; however, the player is entirely unresponsive now. It does display anything after holding the power button for at least 90s. |
| 01:21:50 | SeekingHelp | *doesn't |
| 01:22:42 | the-kyle | In that case, the best thing I can suggest is to let the battery run out before trying again. Everything I've read suggests about 2 weeks should drain the battery completely so you can plug it in and try again. |
| 01:23:47 | the-kyle | Disclaimer: I haven't had this particular problem myself; I have only read about the best ways to solve it when other people have experienced this issue. |
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| 01:24:10 | Torne | it shouldn't take two weeks to drain, only two or three days |
| 01:24:35 | the-kyle | Sorry, I read somewhere that someone waited 2 weeks. |
| 01:24:45 | SeekingHelp | Yes, that's what my reading suggested. I just wanted to check that there was no solution I might have missed. Thanks! |
| 01:24:46 | Torne | they may well have waited 2 weeks :p |
| 01:24:51 | SeekingHelp | also |
| 01:24:58 | the-kyle | Torne is right though, it should only take 2 to 3 days. |
| 01:25:13 | Torne | when you get it to work again, install the current dvelopment build |
| 01:25:23 | Torne | it shuoldn'thave this problem any more. |
| 01:25:32 | SeekingHelp | When I plug it into the computer, my pc recognizes that something is plugged in, but it displays it as a 0 byute removable disk. I can't format or do anything to it. |
| 01:25:38 | the-kyle | Wasn't this a database problem? |
| 01:25:49 | SeekingHelp | I don't know if that might help or not |
| 01:26:02 | Torne | it was a problem with the crash handling causing it to go into an infinite loop |
| 01:26:17 | Torne | the code got fixed |
| 01:26:26 | Torne | so, now when it crashes it should just crash the regular way :p |
| 01:26:30 | Torne | and you should be able to reset |
| 01:26:35 | the-kyle | Ah OK. I use git and only have a few random crashes at startup that are easily resolved by holding in the power button for 15 seconds. |
| 01:26:59 | Torne | yeah, it was fixed some time ago in the development builds |
| 01:27:07 | Torne | but the problem was in the previous stable release |
| 01:27:13 | the-kyle | Shouldn't 3.12 fix this also? |
| 01:27:20 | Torne | oh, i guess, yeah. |
| 01:27:29 | Torne | but we only released that today, so probably not what they have installed |
| 01:27:52 | the-kyle | This is true. I just felt I should point to the new stable release. |
| 01:30:11 | SeekingHelp | Should I attempt to power on the clip+ periodically −− maybe every few hours −− or just leave it alone entirely and then try again in a few days? |
| 01:31:32 | the-kyle | Leave it for 3 days to be safe, then plug it into the computer again. It should power on automatically. |
| 01:32:10 | the-kyle | You may also want to boot to OF upon plugging it into the computer. Then install the latest dev build or stable release 3.12. |
| 01:34:54 | SeekingHelp | OF = Original Firmware? |
| 01:35:16 | the-kyle | Yes |
| 01:36:15 | SeekingHelp | Okay, thank you. I'll give that a shot. |
| 01:36:19 | SeekingHelp | Have a great day! Bye |
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| 01:36:30 | the-kyle | Thanks. U2. |
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| 03:11:58 | ParkerR_ | [Saint], Ok iPod Nano 1g Dev 9a7d11d. Ultima was set as the theme, I selected UniCatcher, then when I selected Thinbasic it threw this http://i.minus.com/ieoyySP6JLkHu.JPG |
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| 03:17:39 | ParkerR_ | [Saint], Oh weird. Ot does the same on stable |
| 03:17:43 | ParkerR_ | *It |
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| 03:38:54 | [Saint] | ParkerR_: are you able to add this to the bug tracker please? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?type=2 |
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| 04:23:39 | ParkerR_ | I can |
| 04:24:50 | ParkerR_ | [Saint], Oh it seems it's a problem with the theme |
| 04:25:39 | [Saint] | While the theme may be poorly coded, and/or outright broken, this still should not happen. |
| 04:26:41 | [Saint] | It should either reject the theme entirely or display what it can and ignore the garbage. It shouldn't barf when switching between it and another arbitrary theme. |
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| 04:38:38 | ParkerR_ | [Saint], http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12766 |
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| 04:42:41 | JdGordon | why the fuck are themes borken? :( |
| 04:42:56 | * | JdGordon wishes he had a bit more spare time in the evenings to look into it |
| 04:43:40 | JdGordon | ParkerR_: please put a direct link to the theme download in the tracker task |
| 04:43:50 | JdGordon | better yet, upload the zip incase the theme dissapears |
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| 04:49:21 | ParkerR_ | JdGordon, I couldnt find a button to edit and trying to add a comment fails due to some server error |
| 04:49:37 | JdGordon | oh joy |
| 04:49:41 | JdGordon | link here then please |
| 04:49:57 | ParkerR_ | http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=1267&target=ipodnano1g |
| 04:50:45 | JdGordon | ParkerR_: can you edit the .cfg and remove the wps line and try loading it again? |
| 04:50:51 | ParkerR_ | JdGordon, Oh the comment posted. It just didnt say that it did |
| 04:50:56 | ParkerR_ | Can do |
| 04:51:06 | JdGordon | it has a sbs and a wps, it will be one or the other thats broken, help narrow it own |
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| 04:51:27 | JdGordon | what the?!! |
| 04:51:32 | JdGordon | [Saint]: have you seen the sbs? |
| 04:52:05 | JdGordon | ParkerR_: yeah, this is a really dead theme, unlikely related to other skin bugs |
| 04:52:10 | * | JdGordon guesses its the sbs |
| 04:52:22 | JdGordon | %?St(volume display)<|%?if(%pv,=,-81)<%xd(Nb)|%?if(%pv,=,-80)<%xd(Na)|%?if(%pv,=,-79)<%xd(Nj)|%?if(%pv,=,-78)<%xd(Ni)|%?if(%pv,=,-77)<%xd(Nh)|%?if(%pv,=,-76)<%xd(Ng)|%?if(%pv,=,-75)<%xd(Nf)|%?if(%pv,=,-74)<%xd(Ne)|%?if(%pv,=,-73)<%xd(Nd)|%?if(%pv,=,-72)<%xd(Nc)|%?if(%pv,=,-71)<%xd(Nb)|%?if(%pv,=,-70)<%xd(Na)|%?if(%pv,=,-69)<%xd(Nj)|%?if(%pv,=,-68)<%xd(Ni)|%?if(%pv,=,-67)<%xd(Nh)|%?if(%pv,=,-66)<%xd(Ng)|%?if(%pv,=,-65)<%xd(Nf)|%?if(%pv,=,-64)<%x |
| 04:52:39 | ParkerR_ | Yeah just removing wps doesnt help |
| 04:52:48 | JdGordon | what the crazy fuck does that line do? |
| 04:54:07 | ParkerR_ | JdGordon, Yeah it loads if I remove both wps and sbs |
| 04:54:17 | JdGordon | put just the wps back in |
| 04:54:17 | ParkerR_ | Styles apply |
| 04:56:28 | ParkerR_ | JdGordon, Works |
| 04:56:42 | JdGordon | yeah, its going to be the line i pasted |
| 04:56:47 | JdGordon | that and a few other lines |
| 04:59:48 | JdGordon | [Saint]: ping!!! |
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| 05:00:58 | [Saint] | Yo dawg, what be the haps all up in dis hizzy? |
| 05:01:53 | JdGordon | see above :) |
| 05:02:04 | [Saint] | Whoah...that's some sheer terror. |
| 05:02:13 | [Saint] | Why would you....? Yeesh. |
| 05:03:44 | JdGordon | ParkerR_: try http://pastebin.com/LaLrvpuy for the .sbs |
| 05:04:05 | JdGordon | [Saint]: this must be before substring tag, and he prob doesnt know about multifont |
| 05:04:12 | JdGordon | does my change look right? |
| 05:04:25 | JdGordon | %xd(N, %ss(2, 1, %pv)) |
| 05:05:48 | ParkerR_ | JdGordon, Loads |
| 05:05:50 | [Saint] | Yes, that'd do it. You could also do the classic (IMO easier to read) "%?pv<%xd(Xa)|%xd(Xb)|%xd(Xc)|...|...|<case_where_volume_isn't_known>>" |
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| 05:06:46 | [Saint] | And no, substring wouldn't have been around at that point...but, that is still a damn ugly way to do it for the time ;) |
| 05:07:06 | [Saint] | I'm really not sure why it is done like that, it is unnecessarily complicated. |
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| 05:09:54 | amayer | *curls into fetal position* it hurts to look at |
| 05:10:04 | JdGordon | hey amayer |
| 05:10:10 | JdGordon | hows your theme site changes? |
| 05:10:46 | amayer | i blew away the server i had. havnt had time to start over... i need a working local copy so i can test stuff before i upload |
| 05:11:40 | amayer | i think it was something with my sqlite configuration and not haveing all the right info in the database |
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| 05:12:42 | amayer | i would gladly work on it if i could get it to work. i think i had like 20 hours into it and i still couldnt load a page with any themes on it |
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| 05:14:18 | JdGordon | I can hook you up with ssh access to my server if you dont have a box for it |
| 05:15:09 | amayer | jdGordon: do you have a working version of the theme site on it? |
| 05:15:30 | JdGordon | no, but you can putz around on the box till it does work :) |
| 05:15:31 | amayer | i just need something i can ftp to to test my php before i commit/push |
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| 05:16:02 | amayer | i have a server i use at home... |
| 05:16:24 | JdGordon | oh ok, sounded like you took the server down |
| 05:16:50 | amayer | actually speaking of boxes i think i might put debian on my laptop and fool with it there... |
| 05:16:52 | amayer | i was just about to replace fedora anyway |
| 05:17:00 | JdGordon | bluebrother^: do you want a OSX box to do rbutil/whatever builds on? |
| 05:17:29 | JdGordon | amayer: well offer stands, i can give you ssh access and you can try getting it going if you want, apache+php are installed |
| 05:17:32 | JdGordon | what else does it neeD? |
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| 05:19:03 | amayer | smarty theme engine |
| 05:19:22 | amayer | (something like that) and sqlite(v2 ???) |
| 05:19:23 | JdGordon | smarty debian package? |
| 05:19:38 | amayer | thats what i downloaded |
| 05:20:28 | amayer | let me install debian quick and see what i can get working now |
| 05:20:35 | JdGordon | even better :) |
| 05:21:40 | amayer | i cant stand fedora(gnome 3) on my laptop so i was going to wipe anyway. |
| 05:21:56 | amayer | JdGordon: do you have ssh to theme site? |
| 05:22:05 | JdGordon | no |
| 05:22:09 | JdGordon | scorche: does |
| 05:22:55 | amayer | well its his server i figured he would |
| 05:23:00 | amayer | scorche: ping? |
| 05:23:14 | JdGordon | actually i have ssh but i doubt i have access to the theme site |
| 05:23:38 | amayer | is it a debian(based) server? |
| 05:24:08 | JdGordon | Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid |
| 05:24:38 | amayer | can you get the sqlite version? |
| 05:25:08 | JdGordon | $ sqlite -version |
| 05:25:08 | JdGordon | 2.8.17 |
| 05:25:08 | JdGordon | jdgordon@squisch:~$ sqlite3 -version |
| 05:25:08 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK JdGordon |
| 05:25:08 | JdGordon | 3.7.11 2012-03-20 11:35:50 00bb9c9ce4f465e6ac321ced2a9d0062dc364669 |
| 05:25:45 | amayer | *scratches head* confused... |
| 05:25:59 | amayer | im not sure how to check which one of those php uses |
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| 05:37:29 | Clear_runway | does anyone have any idea why USB is broken on ipod nano 2g? I seem to remember it working a long time ago. |
| 05:39:12 | JdGordon | it got broken |
| 05:42:25 | amayer | JdGordon: i forget what the verdict was. i rememeber we talked about redoing the theme site. |
| 05:42:27 | amayer | what did we about that? |
| 05:43:18 | amayer | what did we decide* about that? |
| 05:43:38 | scorche | amayer: i seem to remember that we had a sqlitev2 database and recently changed it to sqlitev3 |
| 05:44:34 | amayer | scorche: ok. but isnt sqlitev3 a class based php function set? |
| 05:44:37 | amayer | i think the current code is function based |
| 05:45:13 | scorche | no clue =) |
| 05:46:22 | amayer | scorche: is there a reason we chose sqlite vs something like mysql? |
| 05:46:40 | scorche | probably? |
| 05:46:57 | scorche | to reiterate - i just host the site and made version 1.5 |
| 05:47:15 | scorche | then others came along and re-did it to what it is now |
| 05:47:56 | JdGordon | amayer: redoing how? |
| 05:48:46 | amayer | well there was talk of giveing it a whole new look and feel. then there was talk of redoing the whole website |
| 05:51:54 | amayer | im just going to try and get a version running on my laptop. i have some ideas i would like to incorperate. |
| 05:51:56 | amayer | but first off is anyone involved in the theme site opposed to me removing the smarty engine? for some reason that thing just grinds my gears |
| 05:52:32 | scorche | no one is really involved anymore |
| 05:53:06 | scorche | it just runs |
| 05:53:26 | scorche | there are small changes here and there, but no big changes have taken place in a long time |
| 05:53:41 | amayer | oh... well then. i will work some magic and speak with the gods and see what we come up with. |
| 05:55:15 | amayer | scorche: it would be a huge help if you could supply me with a trimmed down working version of the database. |
| 05:55:17 | amayer | i have 4 themes in the database(all under Alex Mayer) |
| 05:55:19 | amayer | if you could take the time to cut out everthing that doesnt belong to me but keep something in all the tables(i rememeber the settings table had alot in it) that would be a huge head start |
| 05:56:09 | scorche | amayer: could you send me an email to hopefully remind me to do it this weekend? |
| 05:56:39 | amayer | will do. do you want the email now or this weekend? |
| 05:58:28 | scorche | either |
| 05:58:43 | JdGordon | both :) |
| 05:59:08 | amayer | JdGordon: i was just about to say "both it is" |
| 05:59:14 | amayer | haha |
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| 06:52:22 | Raptors | where can I report a bug? |
| 06:52:52 | Raptors | on the rockbox fuze+ port there is a really sharp noise at boot that kills your ears if you have headphones on |
| 06:52:58 | Raptors | not sure how hard it would be to fix |
| 06:54:19 | amayer | Raptors: what version are you using? |
| 06:54:33 | Raptors | the latest from a like a week back |
| 06:54:47 | amayer | 3.11.2? |
| 06:55:10 | amayer | if so we just released version 3.12 today. you should try that and see if it fixes it |
| 06:55:45 | Raptors | for fuze+? |
| 06:55:56 | Raptors | or fuze? |
| 06:56:09 | Raptors | because fuze+ doesn't have any 3.11.2 |
| 06:56:13 | Raptors | it's dev version |
| 06:56:40 | amayer | sorry miss read that |
| 06:56:51 | Raptors | 71778db−−12007 |
| 06:57:01 | Raptors | kk |
| 06:57:12 | Raptors | ya I miss my fuze v2 |
| 06:57:14 | Raptors | lost it |
| 06:57:17 | Raptors | :'( |
| 06:57:39 | Raptors | Fuze+ is garbage compared to Fuze v2. At least Rockbox makes it run decent |
| 06:58:58 | amayer | Raptors: it looks like there were some changes on the 11th(your build is from the 7th) |
| 06:59:14 | Raptors | k |
| 06:59:46 | amayer | (i dont have a fuze+ so this is the most help i can offer) |
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| 09:50:59 | mortalis | Zagor: could you push hifiman's boot tool & bootloader to the download server? |
| 09:51:12 | mortalis | https://www.box.com/s/8a43ffa40918445fdb2f |
| 09:53:18 | [Saint] | Ummmmmm...lol. |
| 09:53:31 | [Saint] | ipodpatcher doesn't compile. |
| 09:53:42 | [Saint] | Seems it still depends on svnversion |
| 09:54:13 | [Saint] | "CC ipodio-win32.c |
| 09:54:13 | [Saint] | ..//../tools/version.sh: 1: ..//../tools/version.sh: svnversion: not found" |
| 09:56:03 | [Saint] | Where would I be able to find an example of how svnverion was changed over to handle gerrit magic? |
| 09:56:25 | [Saint] | or, was this not done yet? |
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| 10:02:59 | Zagor | [Saint]: tools/version.sh? |
| 10:05:32 | Zagor | mortalis: done |
| 10:06:22 | mortalis | thanks |
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| 10:30:13 | wodz | selfprotection() :P |
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| 15:03:45 | cereal_killer | hello, I tried to execute RockboxUtility with linux mint 13, but I couldn't get it running. |
| 15:04:26 | gevaerts | Can you run ldd on it? |
| 15:04:34 | cereal_killer | linux tries to look for an application to execute RockboxUtility, but doesn't find one. |
| 15:04:56 | Torne | RockboxUtility *is* an application |
| 15:05:13 | cereal_killer | sorry gevaerts, I am totally new to linux...I tried to open it with teh terminal, but no luck |
| 15:05:36 | cereal_killer | wait a minute I check what ldd is |
| 15:06:45 | gevaerts | Run "ldd ./RockboxUtility" |
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| 15:08:26 | cereal_killer | this is the output: http://pastebin.com/NvZG3RXp |
| 15:08:27 | amayer_ | cereal_killer: you always need "./" before an application if you are running it from the command line |
| 15:10:10 | cereal_killer | I got this http://pastebin.com/MzcxnW4v |
| 15:10:57 | gevaerts | That all looks reasonably sane |
| 15:12:36 | gevaerts | What happens if you run it from the terminal with "./RockboxUtility"? |
| 15:13:06 | cereal_killer | let me explain again, what I did: I navigated to the folder, where the Utility is (home/RockboxUtility-v1.3.0) where I see an file called RockboxUtility and opened the terminal from there. |
| 15:13:59 | cereal_killer | I typed sudo RockboxUtility, the terminal asks me for my password and says: sudo ./ RockboxUtility: command not found |
| 15:14:28 | cereal_killer | there is no difference using ./ or not |
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| 15:14:54 | gevaerts | Not ./ RockboxUtility. ./RockboxUtility |
| 15:15:11 | gevaerts | Also, do you really need sudo? What player are you using? |
| 15:15:13 | wodz | mortalis: whats wrong with lcdif rework? |
| 15:15:22 | gevaerts | (not all of them need root permissions) |
| 15:15:39 | mortalis | wodz: it's not work with hm-601 slim with lcd v2 |
| 15:16:03 | wodz | mortalis: but lcd works, no? |
| 15:16:28 | wodz | it it displays 'No partition found' |
| 15:17:37 | amayer_ | cereal_killer: when you type "pwd" does it display "home/RockboxUtility-v1.3.0" (the directory that rockboxutility is in? |
| 15:18:05 | cereal_killer | amayer: yes the exact path |
| 15:18:05 | amayer_ | (when you type it in the command line you are trying to run rockboxutility from) |
| 15:18:14 | amayer_ | hmm... interesting |
| 15:19:18 | cereal_killer | I have my sansa clip v2 connected |
| 15:19:22 | mortalis | wodz: i think it's remains after bootloader. I've seen this this message often when i played with lcd and misconfigured it. |
| 15:20:03 | cereal_killer | I try to connect my ipod 5.5g |
| 15:20:24 | Torne | cereal_killer: You are typing the command wrong as gevaerts pointed out |
| 15:20:27 | Torne | no space |
| 15:20:32 | Torne | just ./RockboxUtility |
| 15:20:54 | wodz | mortalis: bootloader should not display this message until something with sd goes wrong |
| 15:21:42 | cereal_killer | Torne: if I type ./RockboxUtility the error message is bash: ./RockboxUtility: Permission denied |
| 15:21:56 | Torne | whatever tool you used to extract it from the archive has broken the permissions |
| 15:22:04 | Torne | chmod +x RockboxUtility |
| 15:22:54 | wodz | or home partition is mounted with noexec :P |
| 15:24:12 | mortalis | wodz: probably it's the same guy that asked me this question on player.ru, and he confirmed that before lcd rework everything works |
| 15:24:29 | mortalis | and right after it's not |
| 15:27:02 | cereal_killer | the terminal does nothing on chmod +x RockboxUtility |
| 15:27:38 | mortalis | wodz: maybe it's not bootloader displaying this message, but misconfigured lcd somehow do it |
| 15:28:03 | wodz | huh |
| 15:28:11 | wodz | I don't believe in magic |
| 15:28:43 | Torne | cereal_killer: it's fixed the permissions |
| 15:28:45 | nrg | cereal |
| 15:28:48 | Torne | it should jsut run if you click on it now |
| 15:28:52 | nrg | lol, it should go now |
| 15:29:32 | nrg | is the clip zip built into the installer yet, or is it still just manual only? |
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| 15:30:28 | mortalis | wodz: as i said I saw this screen quite often when lcd config was screwed up |
| 15:30:51 | cereal_killer | oh right, now it works...great. thank you Torne. |
| 15:31:05 | Torne | what program did you use to extract the archive? |
| 15:32:27 | cereal_killer | I used "extract here" on right mouse button click on the .tar.bz2 file |
| 15:33:09 | mortalis | wodz: btw, before lcd rework first few lines displayed in the bottom of the screen. |
| 15:33:13 | mortalis | for lcd v2 |
| 15:34:17 | cereal_killer | so this was my computers fault..it is very old...:-( |
| 15:35:30 | cereal_killer | btw. is the bootloader version 5.0 for the clip v2 the most recent one? |
| 15:47:27 | cereal_killer | on the bootscreen I can see 5.0 but on download.rockbox.org there is a folder called 6.0 |
| 15:55:29 | wodz | how exactly are codecs loaded? codec_load_file() -> codec_load_ram() ? What is codec_load_buf()? |
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| 16:02:34 | mortalis | wodz: if there was problem with sd, than how OF loads? |
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| 16:07:03 | kugel | wodz: codecs can be buffered on the audio buffer |
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| 16:10:08 | wodz | kugel: buffered as being run from audiobuf or just cached in mem to reduce latency of loading? |
| 16:10:30 | kugel | the latter |
| 16:10:39 | wodz | hmm |
| 16:10:43 | kugel | the purpose is to avoid disk spinup |
| 16:10:59 | Torne | when two adjacent tracks int he playlist have different codecs we buffer a copy of the codec in between |
| 16:11:23 | kugel | but it's copied from the audio buffer into codec memory once it's needed (just like the file content would be loaded into the codec memory) |
| 16:11:28 | Torne | so that as soon as the previous track is decoded you can just memmove() the already-laoded codec for the next track inplace |
| 16:13:45 | wodz | so codec_load_file() copies to audiobuf and from there it is memmoved or codec_load_file() loads to codecbuf directly? |
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| 16:26:49 | kugel | wodz: it loads from the file and executes it |
| 16:26:57 | kugel | codec_load_buf() copies to codec buffer (via bufread()) and executes it |
| 16:29:51 | kugel | when lc_open_from_mem() it is already in codec memory, you'd just need to relocate it from there |
| 16:29:56 | kugel | +is called |
| 16:33:51 | wodz | ok, thanks |
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| 17:05:45 | amayer_ | what does "scanning disk" mean while booting again? |
| 17:06:01 | Torne | it's building the dircache |
| 17:06:19 | Torne | well, specificlaly building hte dircache in the foreground |
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| 17:09:38 | amayer_ | Torne: would turning of "Directory Cacheing" stop that? |
| 17:09:41 | amayer_ | it seems like every 5 or so start ups it does a "scanning disk" |
| 17:09:43 | amayer_ | target: ipod classic |
| 17:10:12 | amayer_ | alternativly is there a way to send it to the back ground and not do it at boot? |
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| 17:16:45 | Torne | it does it in the background if possible |
| 17:16:58 | Torne | when you shut the player down it makes a note of how big the directory cache was |
| 17:17:12 | Torne | then at boot it allocates that much memory plus a bit more for newly added files, and reads into the dircache in the background. |
| 17:17:26 | Torne | if that data is missing/corrupt it has to do it in the foreground |
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| 17:20:28 | amayer_ | so does it only do it when i add files? or is there a specific number of boots? |
| 17:20:31 | amayer_ | or does it roll a 12 sided die? |
| 17:20:44 | Torne | it should only do it once |
| 17:20:56 | Torne | the first time you boot rockbox |
| 17:21:31 | Torne | unless you go and delete rockbox's nvram data, or something on the disk gets corrupted |
| 17:22:47 | amayer_ | only once? like after each update i apply? |
| 17:22:50 | amayer_ | or just once total? like i said i get it every 5 - 8 boots |
| 17:23:04 | AlexP | once in total |
| 17:23:27 | Torne | does "every 5-8 boots" happen tobe "after crashes/lowbattery poweroffs"? :) |
| 17:23:31 | Torne | because that might do it |
| 17:24:08 | amayer_ | ...well thats no good. is this a sign of a failing player(ipod classic) or a bug? |
| 17:24:11 | amayer_ | my battery is fine(fully charged), the deviced timed out(after 5 min auto shutdown) |
| 17:24:48 | Torne | if the saved eeprom values say that the disk is clean (i.e. the player was properly shut down) then it should load the dircache in the background. |
| 17:25:04 | Torne | is it only if it shuts down automatically? |
| 17:25:14 | AlexP | maybe classic auto shutdown is broken somehow |
| 17:25:18 | Torne | specifically is it *every* time it shuts down automatically? |
| 17:25:30 | Torne | we have had bugs in the past where the auto shutdown sequence is not the same as the manual shutdown sequence |
| 17:25:31 | amayer_ | Torne: no not every time |
| 17:25:40 | Torne | e.g. LCDs not being correctly powered off so they fade out slowly |
| 17:28:29 | Torne | amayer_: has it ever done it after a manual poweroff? |
| 17:29:09 | amayer_ | i dont usually manual poweroff... i just switch the hold button and let it auto power off |
| 17:29:35 | Torne | anyway. it should only do the full scan after an unclean shutdown, or the first time rockbox is booted |
| 17:29:43 | amayer_ | Torne: ill look into it after manual power off. |
| 17:30:11 | Torne | otherwise, the nvram data should tell it that the disk is believed to be clean, and it will trust that the old dircache structure is accurate enough, reload that, and then update it in the background |
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| 19:08:36 | lebellium | why does this page http://www.rockbox.org/download/byhand.cgi say "Rockbox 3.12 was released on 06 October 2012" |
| 19:08:41 | lebellium | 16 October? |
| 19:09:32 | gevaerts | Because it *should* have been released on the 6th, but we messed up, and we forgot to change that date |
| 19:10:57 | AlexP | It sort of was released |
| 19:11:08 | AlexP | It just didn't get put anywhere where anyone could get at it :) |
| 19:11:15 | AlexP | I had it on the 6th :) |
| 19:11:21 | lebellium | lol |
| 19:11:23 | lebellium | ok |
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| 20:14:07 | Raptors_ | pamaury, do you know how hard it would be to fix the poping sound when the fuze+ powers on? |
| 20:14:26 | pamaury | if I just knew how to fix it, believe me I would ! |
| 20:15:24 | pamaury | I could try to mimic the OF but I don't understand it enough to know how to do that for now |
| 20:15:36 | Raptors_ | k |
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| 20:20:12 | kugel | n1s: ping |
| 20:23:31 | kugel | Buschel, n1s (logs): I don't understand why t0 and t1 are in/decremented by stride in 091619b when the index before was i<<shift and (N4-i)<<shift respectively |
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| 20:48:11 | n1s | kugel: forgot to include a comment from Buschel's patch saying that stride == 1<<shift i haven't checked out where it comes from though |
| 20:49:09 | kugel | n1s: shift and stride are both parameters to the functions |
| 20:49:32 | kugel | even if that's true making assumptions about the callers seems bad |
| 20:49:36 | n1s | yep |
| 20:51:16 | kugel | pretty questionable commit in my book |
| 20:52:06 | n1s | ok |
| 20:52:35 | kugel | especially since the speedup is really minor |
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| 21:05:50 | n1s | happier |
| 21:05:52 | n1s | ? |
| 21:06:25 | kugel | yes |
| 21:06:28 | kugel | thanks :) |
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| 21:09:25 | derf | kugel: FWIW, you can definitely make assumptions on the relationship between shift and stride. |
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| 21:15:27 | kugel | derf: then I suggest the function be changed to take only one paramter |
| 21:16:08 | derf | No argument from me! |
| 21:16:17 | kugel | no patch either? ;) |
| 21:16:18 | derf | Please send patches upstream. |
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| 21:17:18 | derf | I wish I had time to rewrite the 2/3rds of libopus I didn't write. |
| 21:17:26 | derf | But the reality is I don't. |
| 21:17:57 | kugel | no shit :) |
| 21:18:57 | derf | FWIW, when I did my clean-room CELT decoder last year, my MDCT function didn't have separate shift and stride parameters. |
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