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#rockbox log for 2012-10-24

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09:28:37wodzhttps://docs.google.com/open?id=0Bx1OY3AHjewUektjTVM3dHQ1UUk <- Here are some numbers about size impact of elfloader for selected targets. rockbox.xxx delta is actual code increase, codecs and plugins delata is *on disk*. Runtime mem requirements are the same as in master.
09:28:50wodzTorne, kugel, others: ^
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09:32:56wodzhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah1OY3AHjewUdGxSOXU2VTdfRndwZGZKWTR3VlBQS3c#gid=0 <- this one should be better
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10:15:28kugelso, 50-60% increase on average
10:16:05kugelin-ram there's no difference right?
10:25:40JdGordonwould writing the boot file as an elf give us anything?
10:25:46JdGordonother than a need for new bootloaders
10:26:39kugelno
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14:04:46wodz#@$@#$ I accidently commited sh toolchain stuff. Will revert in a minute
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14:22:18mortaliswodz: I looked through sdk code and noticed that they always disable cache before invalidating cache ways.
14:22:32mortalisIt also works for me, though it works with nops instead of enabling/disabling cache.
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14:35:03TangerineAny pluginLua experts out there? I'm trying to figure out how I could use the constants in buttons.lua in my scripts. Any idea how this could be done?
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14:48:47wodzmortalis: interesting
14:50:15TangerineNevermind, found it.
14:50:40Tangerinerequire ("buttons") after that button constants work as intended.
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14:59:04mortaliswodz: i'm wonder if it's really fix or it just remove symptoms of problem.
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15:00:43mortalisbtw, with it works with always disabled cache.
15:02:13wodzmortalis: which fix? disabling cache before invalidation? How many nops have you tried?
15:06:12mortaliswodz: i tried this 2 variants: http://pastebin.com/m1CHV0cu
15:07:08wodzmortalis: why 4 nops?
15:07:18wodzI would expect 8 to have effect
15:09:12mortalisthere 8 nops (4 in the end)
15:11:30wodzAnyway that looks strange to me. What happens if you move all nops to the front or to the end of the function?
15:17:01mortalis8 nops to replace DEVID &= ~(1<<31); DEVID |= (1<<31); code, so I could check if it disabling cache helped or it just inserting any instructions helped.
15:17:21mortalis8 nops at the begining or end works
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15:20:54wodzI have no strong opinion. Disabling cache for invalidation is probably safer - I mean if the cache handling is the root of all problems. It is awkward however that you can't simply invalidate cache without any additional tweaks.
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23:12:53jkonamiHey guys. Is there information of which folders a new rockbox installation creates (I used the installer)? I'd like to delete directories off of my zip clip
23:13:43Belzebub.rockbox dir only
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23:14:41jkonamiany files outside .rockbox? that's helpful, thanks.. means I can get rid of pretty much any other folder, right? never intend to use the ofw
23:16:45jkonamiI had a second issue I couldn't find anything on in the forums - does anyone have any issues with .vgm playback cutting the song off early?
23:17:35Belzebubjkonami: keep .rockbox directory
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23:19:38nesoxheyho
23:19:44jkonamiBelzebub: thank you, I will. just wanted to declutter the clip zip since the screen is so tiny. or I guess I could make another directory with a dot and sort of back up everything just in case, it will hide it just the same I assume
23:20:01Torneyou can just set files/folders as hidden, they won't show unless "show files" is set to all
23:20:14Tornethe OF recreates some/all of those folders when you boot it for any reason, so deleting them is largely pointless
23:21:09jkonamioh, I see
23:21:32nesoxhttp://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUninstall <−− there is sth wrong, you have to boot into the normal firmware to install the firmware
23:21:48nesoxit's a wiki but i didnt want to create an acc only for editing this tiny mistake
23:23:22jkonamiTorne: how do you flag folders as hidden? if I set in windows file properties does that work? if I add a dot in front of the directory ala linux to hide it I assume it would just recreate the folders as you said
23:23:26Torneyes
23:23:37Tornethe normal filesystem hidden attribute
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23:23:54jkonamicool, thanks!
23:26:22jkonamirockbox is great, btw, thanks to all the devs in the room for you efforts. always dreamed about having a portable player that could play mods, sids and nsf files
23:28:15nesoxbought another clip+ today and the headphone plug doesnt fit in completely... ever heard of this? there is definetly a loose connection. but there are more strange sthings: if i plug the headphones deeper inside, it stops playback every second... like a lagging stream
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23:28:31nesoxgot this with rockbox and normal firmware
23:29:32jkonaminesox: sounds like a return to me
23:31:18nesoxyep
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23:39:36nesoxi can only agree to jkonami, thanks for everything! byebye
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