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| 01:55:09 | [Saint] | What does the option "(D)ebug" do in configure? |
| 01:55:40 | [Saint] | also "S(m)all C lib"... |
| 01:56:50 | foolsh | It builds rockbox with debug symbols included usually they are not it makes the files smaller with out the debug stuff added |
| 01:57:52 | [Saint] | Aha, thanks...I was just kinda answering my own question (wrt: debug builds at least) as you answered. |
| 01:58:12 | [Saint] | But your answer is a whole lot more concise and easier to understand :) |
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| 01:58:48 | foolsh | the small clib I know is well a smaller clib alternative but I don't know the exact merits of it |
| 01:59:25 | [Saint] | Right, that's how my question should have been phrased. |
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| 01:59:44 | [Saint] | Not "what is foo?" but "what is the point in/benefit of foo?" |
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| 02:40:50 | * | foolsh wonders exactly what the merits of small clib are anyways, is it functionally the same as the regular clib? |
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| 02:41:31 | DmL | Are any of the fuze+ devs around? |
| 02:41:46 | DmL | or perhaps Saratoga? |
| 02:43:07 | DmL | Anyway, I have a bit of an interesting question, maybe someone here would like to think about: |
| 02:44:06 | DmL | On Fuze+ in rockboy, pressing the menu button to go to the menu works flawlessly in the default screen mode, but often crashes in the rotate left (but not rotate right) screen mode! |
| 02:45:31 | foolsh | That's what I'm working on, I think its an memory alignment problem I was going to file a bug report after I gathered more info, |
| 02:46:25 | DmL | I just isolated it to that case today. I tried to reproduce it on the sim, but wasn't able to. Now I wonder if I had the screen rotate option set. |
| 02:46:49 | DmL | I've currently on my local repo got a similar function coded into the infoNes plugin |
| 02:50:24 | foolsh | but also if the screen is unscaled it works fine on left rotate |
| 02:50:51 | DmL | So I was basically hoping to port alot of rockboy's functions, but i thought i should work on that bug first. |
| 02:51:00 | DmL | that's good info, thanks |
| 02:51:45 | DmL | I'm not much of a programmer, but I bet I could make some progress by looking at the different cases and seeing how things are done. |
| 02:52:37 | DmL | Have yo made any headway identifying where the problem is? I'm still struggling with understanding the flow of the program. For isntance, what does it execute when the menu opens? |
| 02:53:12 | DmL | I rewrote the do_menu to simply exit, and i get the data abort then as well. |
| 02:53:34 | DmL | (I don't hae the code in front of me right now and don;t rember the exact name of the function) |
| 02:54:43 | foolsh | I've only started on it last night, scaled with maintained aspect ratio works fine too, it only crashes when it's stretched across the whole screen |
| 02:56:40 | foolsh | only four files "lcd.c, menu.c, rockmacros.h, sys_rockbox.c" even mention rotate |
| 02:57:07 | DmL | Yeah, the problem seems very localized, . |
| 02:57:44 | DmL | When I changed the menu to just exit cleanly it still crashed, but only after displaying the "closing rockboy" splash |
| 02:58:05 | foolsh | It might be else where like in the frame buffer driver |
| 02:59:30 | DmL | at this point i've only played around with some plugins |
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| 03:03:17 | DmL | i don't know much about how the drivers and such are laid out, or even where they are in the source |
| 03:03:23 | foolsh | whats more my brother has a fuze+ (red) that works fine no matter what rote option is set mine a black fuze+ |
| 03:03:26 | DmL | I've been wanting to conatct Amaury, but haven't had a chance yet. |
| 03:03:36 | DmL | hmm, mine's blue. |
| 03:03:40 | foolsh | rotate* not rote |
| 03:03:57 | DmL | 8gb |
| 03:04:47 | foolsh | 4gb |
| 03:04:53 | foolsh | nothing there |
| 03:05:44 | DmL | have you noticed also you can get to the menu *during gameplay* on many color games, but almost never on classic ones |
| 03:06:26 | DmL | (that is, it usually *does not* work evn for color games during menus or splash screens) |
| 03:06:31 | foolsh | yes some times but most often it just fails |
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| 03:08:59 | DmL | alright, i'll be back in a few minutes |
| 03:09:06 | DmL | i'm currently installing linux on a VM |
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| 03:19:49 | saratoga | DmL: we have a download link for a ready made VM image if you prefer |
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| 03:27:57 | DmL | i used that for a while, but I've got some weird hardware issues with ubuntu. |
| 03:28:30 | DmL | i've already setup the uild environment a couple of times |
| 03:28:44 | DmL | at this point, what i really need is a crash course on exporting patches |
| 03:29:07 | DmL | cause i have some fixes that bring infones to work with head |
| 03:29:17 | DmL | and adds a couple of features |
| 03:32:25 | saratoga | how do you have hardware issues with a virtual machine? |
| 03:32:43 | saratoga | anyway, the development guide explains how to upload stuff to gerrit |
| 03:32:53 | saratoga | we tend not to use patches anymore since we moved to git |
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| 03:35:38 | DmL | SO GEso gerrit would be the place to put unofficial patches? |
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| 03:45:35 | foolsh | Ah, my brother's fuze+ does data abort just like mine and DmT's, he had the screen scaled but aspect ratio maintained with the left rotation |
| 03:47:35 | DmL | yeah, if you scale with aspect it still works |
| 03:47:43 | DmL | so it seems only one mode is in error |
| 03:48:37 | foolsh | He told me it did not, but he's not as curios about stuff. Well it's some where in that area Dmt |
| 03:51:42 | DmL | @Saratoga regarding the virtual machine, there were a couple of issues. One was I tried to update the image and it did so incompletely, and secondly the Vmachine just runs this laptop too hard. Thirdly, booting into actual linux leaves me with video and ACPI issues. |
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| 04:07:33 | foolsh | I'm looking in lcd.c in rockboy where all the ifdef(s) sort out the screen offsets and rotation values and I was wondering, does any other targets have the same screen dimensions 320 x 240 and might have the same issue |
| 04:11:33 | DmL | i thinnk the ipod and the hrivier do |
| 04:11:40 | DmL | have that screen resolution i mean |
| 04:11:58 | DmL | but not vertically, I don't think |
| 04:12:09 | DmL | ie, in portrait mode, rather than landscape |
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| 04:16:45 | foolsh | Thanks DmL, seems the fuze+ sim works flawlessly without error rotated stretched or what ever, I don't think it's in the software I think its in the hardware and that sucks even more. |
| 04:18:01 | DmL | i will take a look at the code in a few minutes, there must be something significantly different about rotating left versus right. It might be as simple as it corrupting the config file or something. |
| 04:18:36 | DmL | otherwise the bug might be specific enough that amaury could look at the lcd driver and see something |
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| 04:35:03 | foolsh | Sometimes my config file doesn't get written when I change the rotation and scale option, I can then open rockboy after a hardreset with my old settings, but sometimes it does and I erase the option file to get rockboy to work again |
| 04:38:24 | DmL | yes, if it crashes with the data abort it hasn't written the config file |
| 04:38:56 | DmL | which leads me to believe it has something to do with the one option and how the file is saved, rather than the hardware, or general rockbox software itelf |
| 04:40:48 | DmL | although I suppose it must have 8something* to do with the hardware, since it doesn't seem to happen on other hardware |
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| 05:00:15 | * | foolsh set off to collect option files and diff them |
| 05:04:51 | foolsh | I just noticed another thing about this bug, when able to get back to the menu without an abort pressing the keys seem to be laggy as hell |
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| 05:16:18 | DmL | true, i remember that happening as well |
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| 05:33:31 | JbstormburstADV | If anyone's there, I'm curious at the moment how extensive the Rockbox support is for the iPod Classic 7G. Also, does anyone have an idea if we'll ever see it dual-boot? |
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| 06:50:25 | [Saint] | "I am curious about <X>, but the extent of my curiosity is limited to a ~5 minute window" |
| 06:50:28 | [Saint] | >_> |
| 06:54:36 | [Saint] | A while ago, I added support for ROYGBIV color scheme in lamp.rock, but it got shot down...does anyone think it is worth me trying again? |
| 06:55:17 | JdGordon | why was it shot down? |
| 06:55:22 | [Saint] | I don't think it was the implementation that was disliked, I didn't reinvent the wheel...I think it was just that no one saw the reason to have these colors, but, I don't see a reason not to. |
| 06:56:04 | [Saint] | part of my patch was committed, I also assed support for dimming the backlight. |
| 06:56:12 | [Saint] | whoops. *added. |
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| 07:03:46 | foolsh | Actually more colors for lamp.rock seems only logical, but what about stepping slowly through all colors by pressing a button. |
| 07:03:56 | foolsh | And what about brightness? |
| 07:04:21 | [Saint] | brightness is already available for scrollwheel targets, not sure if I added it for anything else. |
| 07:04:37 | [Saint] | I don't _think_ so...maybe I did. |
| 07:04:45 | [Saint] | It was ~2 years ago or so. |
| 07:05:43 | [Saint] | << >> changes the color, and scrolling forwards and backwards changes the brightness. |
| 07:06:01 | foolsh | Ah now wonder I can't find the brightness button on my fuze+ could map it to volume keys I guess |
| 07:06:02 | [Saint] | until I added that, it was locked at full brightness. |
| 07:07:40 | foolsh | No I found it it's up down but the steps are so small you can't tell until the fourth or fifth time it's pressed |
| 07:07:48 | * | [Saint] is doing a rough White/Red/Orange/Yellow/Green/Blue/Indigo/Violet/Black patch for it now. |
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| 07:08:21 | [Saint] | Ohhhhh...I see, it probably behaves poorly on button-based targets that rely on button_repeat |
| 07:08:29 | JdGordon | add a colour wheel! |
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| 07:08:48 | [Saint] | nuts to that ;) |
| 07:09:03 | foolsh | All the colors! |
| 07:09:35 | [Saint] | WROYGBIVB is enough for anyone! |
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| 07:09:44 | [Saint] | Hell..I can't even tell several of them apart! :P |
| 07:10:20 | [Saint] | Internet color codes |
| 07:10:32 | [Saint] | whoops, irc != google |
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| 07:15:02 | DmL | I added colours to my build too, I can definitely see that plus brightness being generally useful. |
| 07:15:33 | [Saint] | brightness should be there already... |
| 07:15:58 | [Saint] | I don't distinctly recall adding it for non-scrollwheel targets, but, I doubt it would've been committed if I didn't. |
| 07:15:58 | foolsh | up and down DmL but you have to press them a few times |
| 07:16:12 | DmL | a custom color from the menu (ala the font color-chooser) would be cool, too |
| 07:16:22 | [Saint] | baby steps ;) |
| 07:16:35 | [Saint] | I'll see if I can get some basic colors in first. |
| 07:16:44 | [Saint] | (other than boring old red) |
| 07:17:20 | DmL | oh that's cool, i didn't know there was brightness |
| 07:18:21 | [Saint] | :) |
| 07:18:39 | [Saint] | There wasn't exactly a huge fuss about it when it was committed. |
| 07:19:14 | [Saint] | How responsive the brightness does/doesn't feel for non-scrollwheel targets is probably quite target dependant too. |
| 07:19:19 | DmL | i use the lamp all the time |
| 07:19:31 | [Saint] | Some targets have a lot less/more steps in their brightness scale than others do. |
| 07:19:44 | DmL | that's prolly what's going on with the fuze+ |
| 07:19:56 | [Saint] | from 16~32, iirc. |
| 07:20:01 | DmL | it enumerates like 80 steps but there's really only 20 or something |
| 07:20:11 | [Saint] | Ahhhhh, whoah. |
| 07:20:19 | [Saint] | the Fuze+ has *that* many? Wow. |
| 07:20:40 | DmL | yeah, in "brightness" menu setting, it goes from 0 -80 |
| 07:20:57 | DmL | (o is worse than useless since fuze+ screen is not reflective) |
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| 07:21:39 | DmL | Yeah, a quick, very unscientific count puts me around 25 increments. |
| 07:22:03 | DmL | So in the lamp app I have to push the button 3 or 4 times before I notice any change |
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| 07:25:02 | * | [Saint] will test and push this patch after he finishes his dinner |
| 07:25:20 | DmL | hehe |
| 07:25:20 | foolsh | DmL, has your fuze+'s 3x3 pad ever stop working making you have to power cycle to get it back again? Mine does, I'm just wondering |
| 07:25:32 | DmL | yeah, occasionally |
| 07:25:46 | DmL | they mention that on the wiki |
| 07:26:11 | DmL | that's the other thing I want to do |
| 07:26:20 | foolsh | Gotcha, I should go reread that page |
| 07:26:43 | DmL | does rockbox support arbitrary numbers of butons? |
| 07:27:16 | DmL | cause I want to make the 3x3 touchpad more like 9x9 |
| 07:28:59 | DmL | do the sections have to be rectangles or can they be polygons? |
| 07:32:47 | JdGordon | DmL: what do you actually want to do? |
| 07:33:19 | DmL | On the fuze+ the touchpad is setup as a simple 3x3 grid |
| 07:33:26 | JdGordon | 3x3 is plenty for fake buttons, you could use the pixel coords to do smarter button handling though |
| 07:33:53 | DmL | which maps to Back, Up, Play, Left, Select, Right, BottomLeft, Down, Bottomight |
| 07:34:23 | DmL | but I would like the action buttons to be smaller |
| 07:34:35 | DmL | and the direction buttons to fan out getting larger away from the middle |
| 07:34:56 | DmL | and to maybe have a zone on the edges where both are triggered |
| 07:35:23 | DmL | I don't mind looking into it myself, I was just wondering if the button shapes could be easily arbitrary, or if they had to be rectabgles |
| 07:35:58 | DmL | or I could simulate it by having multiple zones trigger a single button |
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| 07:36:24 | JdGordon | currently only rectangles are supported (and only 3x3 in the touchpad->button code)... skins can use coords to have as many button areas as they want |
| 07:36:35 | JdGordon | but i dont know if that mode is suppoerted on the fuze yet or not |
| 07:36:56 | DmL | but the skin buttons wouldn't be visible to plugins |
| 07:37:02 | JdGordon | correct |
| 07:37:17 | DmL | where is the touchpad button code located? |
| 07:37:42 | JdGordon | not sure :) |
| 07:37:48 | DmL | heh |
| 07:37:56 | DmL | i wish there was an API : D |
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| 07:39:57 | JdGordon | add one :) |
| 07:40:03 | DmL_ | this would be easier if I had a stable dev environment |
| 07:40:22 | JdGordon | then you just need to add keymaps for your new psudobuttons |
| 07:40:30 | DmL_ | hehe, add an API to the iki? sounds like a nice long term project for somebody like me who is only marginally code-worthy |
| 07:40:57 | DmL_ | but yeah, that's what I was thinking, find where the buttons are enumerated, add a couple |
| 07:41:17 | DmL_ | can different button areas trigger the same button press? |
| 07:41:29 | DmL_ | alternately can a button area trigger two different buttons? |
| 07:42:27 | JdGordon | yes, no |
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| 07:43:48 | foolsh | I have a hard enough times with my big-ol-fat fingers as it is. (grep)ing through the rockbox/firmware directory should help you find what you need DmL |
| 07:45:30 | DmL_ | well, I'm thinking specifically for the game plugins |
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| 07:45:38 | DmL_ | it would be nice to be able to travel diagonals |
| 07:46:39 | DmL_ | so I could define an "FUZEPLUS_UPLEFT" |
| 07:46:56 | DmL_ | and then in rockboy, infones, doom, etc trigger their pad buttons appropriately. |
| 07:47:19 | DmL_ | i guess it wouldn't need to trigger two in rockbox itself, rather just have a unique button there |
| 07:48:03 | foolsh | Oh man the button mapping ifdef s in the plugins are nasty, they need tamed badly before we add even more |
| 07:48:19 | foolsh | I guess I'll go do that huh? |
| 07:48:48 | DmL_ | heheh |
| 07:49:00 | DmL_ | well, this is mostly for my own good |
| 07:49:09 | DmL_ | i use my fuze+ like most folks use their phones I guess |
| 07:49:29 | DmL_ | i never go anywhere without it, and use it as my pimary gaming, ebook, and music platform |
| 07:49:49 | DmL_ | i'm not a good enough coder to contribute yet, but if I get any of this working really satisfactorily, I would consider commiting |
| 07:49:59 | foolsh | action games still suck in rockboy unless you map A and B to the volume keys, cause you can't press two buttons on the touch pad at once |
| 07:50:06 | DmL_ | for instance I would make it a menu option to add the buttons or not, I think |
| 07:50:26 | DmL_ | yes, that's how I play them, and it works very well for me, VOL buttons as A and B |
| 07:50:47 | DmL_ | and now that paumary got the cpu scaling i, rockboy and infones run at full speed |
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| 07:52:30 | foolsh | Has infones been pushed to master? |
| 07:52:40 | DmL | no, I got it compiling myself |
| 07:53:05 | DmL | and it runs really well, plays alot of games |
| 07:53:30 | DmL | i could probably double the compatibility if I could figure out how to flip the masking bits |
| 07:53:49 | DmL | it seems masking is working in games like Metroid, but it's exactly backwards |
| 07:53:55 | foolsh | Where is the patch? |
| 07:54:08 | DmL | the infones patch that I used? |
| 07:54:26 | foolsh | yes or similar |
| 07:56:33 | DmL | heh, I can't find it now, gimme a sec |
| 07:57:09 | foolsh | take your time, was it in flyspray?, I'll go check. |
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| 07:58:54 | DmL | ok, starting here |
| 07:58:55 | DmL | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2911 |
| 07:59:24 | DmL | the very last patch: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2911?getfile=20189 |
| 07:59:26 | [Saint] | If you've worked on it yourself, shouldn't you rather push a patch from your local tree? |
| 07:59:41 | [Saint] | 'git diff origin/master master" or so. |
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| 08:00:07 | DmL | well, I would except a) I dunno how to do that and b) it's on a linux partition on my laptop, which is currently misbehaving |
| 08:00:24 | DmL | it's the simplest thing in the world to get it working hto |
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| 08:00:58 | DmL | besides adding a button mapping for the fuzeplus, all I had to do was fix a couple of calls to (if I recall right) play_pcm_data |
| 08:01:15 | [Saint] | If you're not setup to use gerrit, then just "git diff > diff_name.diff", if you are setup to use gerrit, then "git diff origin/master master > diff_name.diff" |
| 08:01:39 | DmL | ah, that's what I was trying to figure out earlier |
| 08:01:51 | DmL | is there an easy way to seperate stuff out? when I do a local commit, i just did -a |
| 08:01:57 | DmL | so I have a ton of unrelated stuff in there too |
| 08:02:16 | [Saint] | not non-trivially, no. |
| 08:02:18 | DmL | i supose if what I'm doing is actually useful, then I could get setup with gerrit |
| 08:02:19 | foolsh | commit early and commit often |
| 08:02:24 | * | [Saint] nods |
| 08:02:26 | DmL | yeah, I don't mind redoing the work |
| 08:02:28 | [Saint] | and use branches. |
| 08:02:36 | [Saint] | branches are your friend. |
| 08:02:54 | [Saint] | (for seperating different patch sets) |
| 08:02:58 | DmL | so I branch for my work with infones, branch for rockboy, branch for my button code? |
| 08:03:07 | * | [Saint] nods |
| 08:03:23 | DmL | or so, branch for getting infones working with head, branch for adding the screen rotation code? |
| 08:03:40 | DmL | cause i do have screen rotatoin also 90% working |
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| 08:03:53 | [Saint] | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingGit is a great start to figure out the workflow. |
| 08:04:13 | [Saint] | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingGit#How_do_branches_work_63 |
| 08:05:27 | DmL | k, i'll look into that |
| 08:05:34 | DmL | while I have you helpful folks here, wo |
| 08:05:57 | DmL | would it be better, since I want to do like 8 variations on solitaire, to add them to the current plugin, or make them all their own plugins? |
| 08:06:23 | DmL | (have like a emnu item to select which variation you want to play) |
| 08:07:21 | [Saint] | It would be betetr to have them all as one plugin, IMO, with a selection menu at run-time. |
| 08:07:34 | DmL | yeah, that's what I was thinking |
| 08:07:52 | DmL | right now there are patches for freecell and spider, which I also have working, and they re-use like 80% of their code |
| 08:08:12 | DmL | not to mention they're all referencing the same card fx anyway |
| 08:10:40 | DmL | is it worthwhile to ask some questions about how rockbox organizes the framebuffer? |
| 08:11:28 | DmL | i notice it's a linear array of type y * width + x, i was wondering though, where (0,0) would be located. I assume upper-left of the screen? |
| 08:12:34 | * | [Saint] nods |
| 08:12:42 | [Saint] | 0.0 is always top/left |
| 08:13:01 | DmL | awesome |
| 08:13:25 | DmL | i assume it will just fail if you try to write outside the bounds |
| 08:14:46 | [Saint] | iiuc, yes. but I _think_ negative values are accepted. |
| 08:15:00 | [Saint] | (useful for alignment) |
| 08:15:06 | DmL | I wonder if that's why I see some overflow on certain plugins |
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| 08:15:42 | DmL | btw, thanks [Saint] for the work you do, I see your name on the forums alot. I've been pretty excited to get started mucking about with the source, love the software, and friendly names like yours are a big reason I haven't been able to get rb outta my head the last couple months |
| 08:16:34 | [Saint] | My nick is actually supposed to be ironic, heh, I am *far* from a saint ;) |
| 08:16:40 | [Saint] | But, I'm glad I can help. |
| 08:16:44 | DmL | heh, that's cool |
| 08:17:23 | DmL | i know alot of projects that say "do it yourself" and ya'll say it too, but you make it actually possible |
| 08:17:37 | DmL | it's all very accessible |
| 08:18:15 | [Saint] | I know what you mean there, actually. Some "open" projects, while open source, have very hostile communities. |
| 08:18:28 | [Saint] | One of the things I enjoy about this project is the community. |
| 08:19:04 | DmL | i was sorta hesitant to actually get involved, since I'm not actually a coder, but it looks like I might actually be able to contribute |
| 08:19:57 | DmL | especially I've got some confidence now since I was able to get linux and the repositary up and running, get a few patches compiling, add a few features I've wanted |
| 08:20:01 | [Saint] | I very much dislike the "Hey guys, can I get some help? How do I do <X>?"; "Hahahaha, f*ck off, n00b" type "developers" and members. |
| 08:20:11 | [Saint] | I have always found Rockbox to be very welcoming. |
| 08:20:25 | DmL | yup, and the dev guides are amazingly complete |
| 08:21:21 | DmL | no i just need to learn the code and write the API guide for you guys :P |
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| 08:22:27 | [Saint] | Yes. Someone with absolutely zero experience should be perfectly capable of setting up an environment, and patching and compiling their own build in an hour or less. The docs are evry straightforward. |
| 08:22:44 | [Saint] | *very |
| 08:23:05 | DmL | they even taught me about linux in the process |
| 08:28:07 | DmL | foolsh, where you able to compile it? |
| 08:29:17 | foolsh | still setting up git branches and registering in gerrit and all that about to patch it in |
| 08:30:35 | DmL | the only real gotcha is the play_pcm_data func |
| 08:30:56 | DmL | it's called twice, you just have to add one argument to the call |
| 08:31:18 | DmL | mint is almost installed on my vm |
| 08:31:29 | DmL | i'll try and make a patch real quick when it finishes |
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| 08:33:27 | foolsh | cool, Hunk #1 succeeded at 1 with fuzz 2 |
| 08:34:09 | DmL | yup |
| 08:34:24 | DmL | that's the CATEGORIES file or something |
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| 08:49:08 | foolsh | make finished without error now to just go back and make it work with the fuze+, thank DmL |
| 08:53:18 | DmL | yar man |
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| 09:00:55 | * | [Saint] added g390 |
| 09:01:15 | * | [Saint] prods fs-bluebot |
| 09:01:22 | [Saint] | ...bah! |
| 09:01:37 | [Saint] | http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/390/ - Change I0b2f6376: Additional colors for lamp.rock |
| 09:02:02 | [Saint] | go nuts fellas |
| 09:02:45 | [Saint] | bluebrother: is fs-bluebot feeling a bit ill lately? Or did I botch the syntax? |
| 09:03:00 | [Saint] | test g#390 |
| 09:03:02 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #390 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/390 : Additional colors for lamp.rock by Hayden Pearce (changes/90/390/1) |
| 09:03:08 | [Saint] | Ahhhh, I did. |
| 09:03:27 | [Saint] | I could'ver sworn the # wasn't necessary |
| 09:03:41 | [Saint] | *could've |
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| 09:10:27 | DmL | ./woohoo |
| 09:10:39 | DmL | connected to gerrit |
| 09:11:25 | [Saint] | If you feel like testing/reviewing the above linked patch, I wouldn't beat you off with a stick |
| 09:12:02 | [Saint] | *very* trivial patch...very trivial. |
| 09:12:27 | DmL | I dunno if I'm a good one to review, but I will definitely test it as soon my git is cloned and I have re-re-re-re-compiled the arm gcc libs etc |
| 09:13:04 | [Saint] | If you have already compiled the toolchains, there should be no need to do so again. |
| 09:13:17 | [Saint] | they exist outside of the repo |
| 09:13:19 | DmL | unless I'm working on a fresh install on a different machine : ) |
| 09:13:26 | [Saint] | Aha, yes. :) |
| 09:13:38 | [Saint] | You can just copy them over, too. |
| 09:13:53 | [Saint] | unless you're going from 32->64bit |
| 09:13:54 | DmL | the other install isn't exactly... reachable at the moment |
| 09:14:00 | [Saint] | Ah. |
| 09:14:05 | DmL | actually, yes, I'm going that too |
| 09:14:13 | [Saint] | Aha, right. |
| 09:14:30 | [Saint] | (word of advice, skip the YP-RO toolchain ;)) |
| 09:14:31 | DmL | didn't even think about that |
| 09:14:50 | DmL | are the compilers needed for the sims? |
| 09:15:06 | [Saint] | No, just sdl-stuffs |
| 09:15:27 | DmL | k, then i'll just do the ARM i think, whichever one it is for the fuze+ |
| 09:16:44 | [Saint] | re: YP-R0 toolchain: it is a nightmarish mix of unlisted dependencies, and each time it fails, there's no way to just start over without trashing what was already sucessfully compiled. |
| 09:16:56 | [Saint] | I never managed to get it to compile on Ubuntu 64bit |
| 09:17:20 | [Saint] | I did on Ubuntu 32bit, but only after figuring out ~15 or so undocumented dependencies |
| 09:18:10 | [Saint] | unless you're planning on adding this machine to the build farm, I would skip toolchains for any target(s) you're not planning on compiling for in the near future. |
| 09:20:40 | DmL | that was sorta my thinking, too |
| 09:20:47 | DmL | what's the build farm? |
| 09:22:06 | [Saint] | Its our distributed build client. That's how we get all the builds done so quickly after each commit |
| 09:22:12 | DmL | aha |
| 09:23:06 | [Saint] | A reasonably large group of powerful to not-so-powerful machines get distributed a build each, and get fed more tasks if they complete the job they get issued before the current round finishes. |
| 09:23:18 | [Saint] | rinse, repeat, until the current round is finished. |
| 09:23:39 | [Saint] | That's how we pump out ~30something+ builds in ~2 minutes :) |
| 09:23:50 | [Saint] | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuildClient |
| 09:25:15 | DmL | clever |
| 09:25:21 | [Saint] | clients eventually get issued a score, based on how well they handle the tasks they are issued, and then the more capable machines get issued more work. |
| 09:25:36 | [Saint] | And yes, it is. It is very awesome. |
| 09:25:59 | [Saint] | I marvelled at the idea when I first discovered it. |
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| 09:26:37 | [Saint] | The real beauty of it is that build clients can come and go as they please, and the only result is that the build round will take slightly longer. |
| 09:27:02 | DmL | I'll definitely have to sign up when I have my 16 core computer setup |
| 09:27:06 | [Saint] | It is very rare that the only clients left connected atren't capable of compiling for each target, but it has happened before. |
| 09:27:57 | [Saint] | and then, it all ends up here: http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi |
| 09:28:27 | [Saint] | this is a table of the last N rounds completed, with deltas for binary size increase, etc. |
| 09:28:39 | DmL | ah, so THAT's what that page is |
| 09:28:45 | * | [Saint] nods |
| 09:29:33 | DmL | just one more evidence of this project's extreme yooser-friendliness |
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| 09:30:03 | [Saint] | heh :) |
| 09:31:55 | DmL | alright, building arm |
| 09:31:55 | foolsh | the next step is to make it browser based and faster than ever :) |
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| 09:32:40 | DmL | so once I get all this working |
| 09:32:46 | DmL | i want to make a branch |
| 09:32:54 | DmL | then patch your your lamp patch into it |
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| 09:33:32 | DmL | then do I do another branch with all the patches applied, or do I somehow compile more than one branch into a single set of binaries? |
| 09:34:17 | [Saint] | you would need to do another branch with all applied if you wanted to do that. |
| 09:34:48 | [Saint] | afaik there's no way to merge all the current branches in that fashion. |
| 09:34:49 | DmL | so if I find your patch useful |
| 09:34:56 | [Saint] | but I'm hardly a git-poweruser. |
| 09:35:03 | DmL | i apply it and say, my newly minted infones patch |
| 09:35:13 | DmL | to a new branch call ALLCHANGES or something? |
| 09:35:57 | [Saint] | If you applied it, and didn;t find it useful, you can always revert the patch...if you just wanted to keep everything in the same branch. |
| 09:36:22 | DmL | i'm just trying to wrap my HEAD (waa waa waa) around this |
| 09:36:23 | [Saint] | applying a patch that has already been applied is automatically detected and assumes you want to undo the patch. |
| 09:36:30 | DmL | cause last time I applied like 10 patches |
| 09:36:44 | DmL | and that wouldn't be useful from a contributing standpoint |
| 09:36:56 | DmL | and didn't track the changes at all |
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| 09:38:20 | [Saint] | if you apply a patch that has already been applied to the current tree, patch will prompt you about this, and ask if you want to assume the "-R" (reverse) flag. Alternatively, you just add the -R flag to the patch command. |
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| 09:38:37 | DmL | so if I apply it to the wrong branch, that's pretty easy to undo |
| 09:38:41 | [Saint] | so: "patch -p0 -R < name_of_patch.diff" |
| 09:38:49 | DmL | it seems like last time I applied something from gerrit, it made a new branch anyway |
| 09:38:58 | [Saint] | errr, -p1 for a git patch |
| 09:39:39 | DmL | so the < is like an input symbol or something |
| 09:40:47 | DmL | cause I think i remember getting that backwards once, and it wiped the contents of the .patch |
| 09:40:54 | [Saint] | yes. "patch < patch.diff" installs a patch with that name, "patch > patch.diff" will create a patch with that name from the currently tracked changes on the branch |
| 09:41:48 | [Saint] | and, re: gerrit...you probably hit "cherry-pick" instead of "patch" or so. |
| 09:41:57 | [Saint] | which, iiuc, will create a new branch. |
| 09:42:05 | DmL | which seems like a good thing to do |
| 09:42:28 | DmL | is there a way to just make a .patch from gerrit? |
| 09:43:30 | [Saint] | Yes, there are four buttons above the list of files for the current patch set: checkout; pull; cherry-pick; patch |
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| 09:44:04 | [Saint] | each of them will print a command to enter to do the desired action. |
| 09:44:56 | foolsh | I make a new branch then use git pull |
| 09:45:22 | [Saint] | cherry-pick creates the branch automagically, iiuc. |
| 09:45:42 | foolsh | don't forget to checkout your new branch if you do it that way |
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| 09:45:47 | foolsh | ah! |
| 09:46:32 | [Saint] | gitref.org is a great resource |
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| 09:46:52 | [Saint] | It got me through a lot of the basics of git that aren;t immediately obvious or basic. :) |
| 09:48:02 | DmL | the closest I've been to any of this stuff before is using tortoiseSVN in windows : ) |
| 09:48:12 | DmL | not that i don't like the command line |
| 09:48:55 | * | foolsh knows they will have to pry his command line from his cold dead fingers |
| 09:49:44 | foolsh | kids today with their IDEs and stuff |
| 09:49:49 | [Saint] | there are a LOT of GUI frontends for git these days. |
| 09:50:00 | [Saint] | Many suck, badly, some are quite awesome. |
| 09:50:12 | DmL | it never even ocurred to me to look for one |
| 09:50:18 | [Saint] | git-gui is pretty good. |
| 09:50:34 | DmL | would that help me in setting up my branches? |
| 09:50:51 | DmL | the only one i'm really worried about is the initial infones patch adds like 20 files |
| 09:51:03 | [Saint] | Yes and no. I find doing it manually helps one to understand the workflow a lot better. |
| 09:51:17 | [Saint] | Rather than an application possibly taking steps for you behind the scenes. |
| 09:51:20 | DmL | but surely i don't need to add each file one at a time? |
| 09:51:28 | [Saint] | No. |
| 09:51:47 | [Saint] | "git add ." |
| 09:52:08 | [Saint] | that'll add anything that isn;t currently tracked. |
| 09:52:25 | DmL | but i need a branch arg for that too, yeah? |
| 09:52:43 | [Saint] | I'm not sure what you're getting at. |
| 09:53:01 | DmL | so i've got my clean rockbox |
| 09:53:06 | foolsh | The flow goes like this ( git branch infones | git checkout infones | patch -p0 < ../infones.patch | git add ./apps/plugins/infones/* | git commit " |
| 09:53:07 | [Saint] | you would do that from within the branch. |
| 09:53:10 | DmL | git branch lamp |
| 09:53:18 | DmL | patch > etc |
| 09:53:26 | DmL | git branch infones_base |
| 09:53:34 | DmL | right ok |
| 09:53:47 | DmL | darnit |
| 09:53:54 | DmL | gotta get that > right |
| 09:54:02 | DmL | <! |
| 09:54:48 | DmL | alright, this is awesome, guys |
| 09:55:20 | * | [Saint] highly recommends reading from http://gitref.org/ |
| 09:55:49 | [Saint] | it is geared towards new users, so it is worded in a way that most people should be able to understand, and isn;t too overwhelming. |
| 09:56:39 | [Saint] | there are links on the left side of the gitref main page that you can use to easily look up information on specific tasks. |
| 09:56:55 | [Saint] | ie. branching, checkout, commit, etc. |
| 09:57:00 | foolsh | [Saint], black? really? can't wait to see this. Come on computer compile faster! |
| 09:57:30 | DmL | black, eh |
| 09:57:33 | [Saint] | foolsh: it's actually not as non-useful as one might think. :) |
| 09:57:40 | DmL | yeah, I'm on pay 6 of that website now, I think |
| 09:57:43 | DmL | page* |
| 09:57:56 | [Saint] | I use it when I only need enough light to just see what I'm doing and don;t want to blind myself. |
| 09:58:15 | * | [Saint] stabs his ; key in the face |
| 09:58:20 | * | foolsh nods |
| 09:58:23 | [Saint] | be ', dammit! |
| 09:58:29 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 09:59:12 | [Saint] | It wouldn;t surprise me if I'm asked to remove black from that task, but, we'll see. |
| 09:59:46 | DmL | I want to remove 0 as a selectable option for brightness |
| 09:59:52 | DmL | that's gotten me into trouble a couple times |
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| 10:00:43 | [Saint] | Ah, yeah, screens that aren't visible with the backlight off... |
| 10:00:50 | [Saint] | I can see that being interesting. |
| 10:01:55 | DmL | guh, its 4AM here and I have a 9:15 conference call guh |
| 10:02:16 | [Saint] | Whoop. Bedtime. :) |
| 10:02:25 | [Saint] | *whoops |
| 10:02:27 | DmL | one would think so |
| 10:03:13 | foolsh | [Saint], I like the colors patch, useful if you're viewing samples at different wave lenghts of light. I tried it out on the pattern of my blanket. Very cool |
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| 10:12:26 | redhot | Howdy people! |
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| 10:14:49 | lebellium | [Saint]: with the latest build the new 10-band EQ is enabled on all targets or only on most powerful ones? |
| 10:15:10 | [Saint] | All that use the EQ |
| 10:15:27 | [Saint] | so...iirc, everything except the Archos' |
| 10:15:48 | lebellium | ok, thank you |
| 10:16:17 | [Saint] | The CPU usage increase is quite trivial. |
| 10:16:35 | [Saint] | +~5MHz for realtime |
| 10:16:44 | DmL | i like the sound of that |
| 10:17:03 | * | [Saint] is popular today :) |
| 10:17:35 | * | DmL is full of puns. |
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| 10:17:55 | [Saint] | Well, it /just/ got committed...so it is available in the source as of now, or via the development snapshot builds. |
| 10:18:20 | DmL | buts its merged? |
| 10:18:22 | [Saint] | Oh, derp...hahaha, yes, nice one :) |
| 10:18:30 | [Saint] | I didn't parse that as a pun initially. |
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| 10:48:39 | pamaury | DmL: foolsh: what is the problem with lcd and rotation ? |
| 10:51:23 | DmL | in rockboy, when you choose from the menu options "rotate left" and "scaled" they set properly, return to gameplay and try to re-enter the menu and you will get a data-abort on all classic games and most color games |
| 10:51:51 | DmL | it does not do that for any other combination of menu items |
| 10:52:25 | DmL | it's been confirmed on 3 different fuze+ (4gb and 8gb) |
| 10:53:31 | DmL | i tried to reproduce it in the sim, but i don't think I knew the specific menu option to trigger it when I tried it |
| 10:53:49 | foolsh | I tried the sim and every combination works fine |
| 10:54:13 | DmL | i tried it in a dev build, and it data aborted without loading a game |
| 10:55:19 | DmL | i tried a version of the menu code that just exited the plugin on pressing the menu button, and it data aborted after showing the "closing rockboy" splash |
| 10:55:54 | DmL | (thanks for all your hard work by the way) |
| 10:55:57 | * | DmL bows. |
| 10:57:42 | DmL | arthus1 |
| 10:57:44 | DmL | whoops |
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| 11:01:32 | wodz | DmL: did you get meaningful backtrace on abort? |
| 11:02:45 | DmL | in other words, did it tell me adress and such? yes |
| 11:02:58 | DmL | i can give you the whole error |
| 11:03:04 | DmL | I don't have a MAP handy at the moment |
| 11:04:05 | wodz | without .map its meaningless |
| 11:04:23 | DmL | foolsh probably has one |
| 11:04:37 | gevaerts | Well, an elf file is just as good :) |
| 11:04:41 | DmL | i can make one as soon as the cross-compiler finishes |
| 11:04:44 | wodz | it will be plugin .map most probably |
| 11:04:51 | wodz | gevaerts: right, even better |
| 11:04:59 | DmL | hmm |
| 11:05:14 | [Saint] | you need the .map file for the exact revision of the same target build |
| 11:05:46 | DmL | well, foolsh could give you the address and the map |
| 11:06:01 | * | [Saint] wonders why it isn't included in the dev snapshots |
| 11:06:06 | DmL | i can post tomorrow once my compilter is working again |
| 11:06:12 | [Saint] | it is shipped with releases, no? |
| 11:06:23 | [Saint] | re: map file(s) |
| 11:06:30 | DmL | i don't see it in the zip |
| 11:07:32 | [Saint] | Hum, I'm not sure if it is packed with the binary, or available as an alternative download. |
| 11:08:09 | foolsh | or should I do a debug build? |
| 11:08:25 | [Saint] | I guess shipping them is useless, ...not sure what I was thinking there. But it would be nice if the last N builds had their map files archived. |
| 11:08:46 | [Saint] | foolsh: not unless you want to connect to gdb |
| 11:09:09 | DmL | woot, compiler finished! |
| 11:09:45 | [Saint] | Damn, that took ages. What system is this? |
| 11:10:19 | DmL | 32bit linux running in a virtual machine on 64bit windows 7 dual core 2.7ghz without virtualization |
| 11:10:52 | DmL | doesn't seem like it'll be very useful, does it? |
| 11:10:55 | DmL | hmm |
| 11:10:56 | [Saint] | (to spped compilation, if you haven't already done so, enable ccache {sudo apt-get install ccache}) |
| 11:11:13 | [Saint] | compilation will be a lot faster than that, one hopes :) |
| 11:11:49 | [Saint] | The initial compile is the longest, subsequent builds are significantly shorter. Especially with ccache |
| 11:12:15 | DmL | i may have to bite the bullet and risk the other machine real quic |
| 11:12:41 | [Saint] | what for? |
| 11:13:05 | wodz | rockbox compilation is a few minutes even on ancient hardware |
| 11:13:27 | DmL | generating dependencie is taking like 5 minutes |
| 11:13:39 | [Saint] | damn. |
| 11:13:42 | wodz | thats io intensive so vm hits you |
| 11:13:55 | DmL | on the other machine the entire compile takes like 45 seconds |
| 11:14:07 | DmL | but it starts to overheat after 20 minutes or so |
| 11:14:50 | DmL | so i think i can build it once, but i can't actually do any dev on it |
| 11:15:04 | DmL | hmm, this one is doing okay, now |
| 11:16:05 | wodz | hmm, for 3 subsequent build rounds magic errors disappeared |
| 11:16:58 | * | foolsh updated FS #12815 with backtrace from data abort |
| 11:16:59 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12815 Fuze+ Rockboy data aborts on menu key press, when the srceen is rotated left and image is stretched (bugs, unconfirmed) |
| 11:18:33 | wodz | this backtrace doesn't give much insight |
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| 11:21:17 | DmL_ | should I put the elf/map anywhere in particular? |
| 11:22:41 | wodz | You need matching backtrace and .elf/.map (elf is better) to even try to understand the failure |
| 11:23:00 | DmL_ | so you're not wanting me to upload them soewhere |
| 11:23:07 | pamaury | I'll try to reproduce on my fuze+ |
| 11:23:18 | DmL_ | i have the elf/map and I can give the address as well now |
| 11:23:58 | wodz | DmL: upload .elf somewhere and pastebin abort screen |
| 11:24:09 | DmL_ | hmm |
| 11:24:16 | wodz | pamaury: whats mapped at 0x49? iram? |
| 11:24:36 | pamaury | yeah |
| 11:25:07 | wodz | so If I understand abort correctly thats kinda strange |
| 11:25:26 | pamaury | data abort in memcopy ? |
| 11:25:38 | wodz | ah wait it is unaligned access most probably |
| 11:26:01 | pamaury | would fit: it's in assembly so backtracer probably fails and the error is unaligned access |
| 11:26:56 | DmL_ | i don't have an easy way to upload a screen cap but i can type the text of the error out |
| 11:27:07 | wodz | DmL: thats what I mean |
| 11:27:56 | wodz | just type it in pastebin.com or whatever to not pollute channel |
| 11:28:03 | DmL_ | ah, ok |
| 11:30:26 | DmL_ | http://pastebin.com/Ty75MjsX |
| 11:30:44 | DmL_ | is that correct? |
| 11:31:52 | wodz | yeah |
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| 11:33:21 | pamaury | if I read correctly that's in lcd_mono_bitmap_part |
| 11:34:38 | DmL_ | on a color game it is exactly the same except the address line reads address: 0x00010037 |
| 11:35:11 | wodz | pamaury: if I read correctly its in add_to_list_l() |
| 11:36:04 | DmL_ | hmm |
| 11:36:12 | DmL_ | i've yet another address now, weird |
| 11:36:22 | pamaury | DmL_: impossible, there is no code at this address, isn't it 0x1037 ? |
| 11:36:22 | pamaury | wodz: can't find any function with that name, did you use the elf ? I had a look at the .map by hand |
| 11:36:24 | DmL_ | 0x0000e6eb |
| 11:36:36 | wodz | pamaury: yes |
| 11:37:07 | pamaury | there is no code between 0x8000 and 0x6000000, those addresses don't make sense |
| 11:37:25 | DmL_ | pamaury, on the color game it has repeated at 0x00010037 |
| 11:38:06 | pamaury | hum, I really need to check on mine |
| 11:38:25 | funman | pamaury: wodz: did you already think of ways to detect 'heap' corruption? (unintentionally overwriting running code) |
| 11:38:44 | funman | we have a stack corruption check on context switch already afaiu |
| 11:39:11 | pamaury | use virtual memory ? but that can only trap writes to code, not to the stack |
| 11:39:18 | wodz | funman: we have but it is not the most reliable thing |
| 11:39:30 | DmL_ | the address seems to move based on which game crashes it |
| 11:39:49 | wodz | this pretty much looks like stack corruption |
| 11:40:17 | DmL_ | or else there are 3 or 4 addresses it might come up with |
| 11:40:18 | pamaury | we could put the stack far away from everything, using virtual memory |
| 11:40:25 | funman | pamaury: i agree proper use of mmu (and making code ro) would be helpful |
| 11:40:50 | pamaury | I already use the mmu on the imx233 for caching, however I use section of 1MB only |
| 11:40:52 | DmL_ | i just got 0x0000e6eb again on SQRXZ |
| 11:41:51 | wodz | funman: you tried something with ro protection on amsv2, am I right? |
| 11:42:03 | pamaury | DmL_: ok thanks, it looks stack a stack corruption, the address is probably meaningless then :( |
| 11:42:44 | DmL | aaand that machine died |
| 11:43:05 | DmL | so it looks like stack corruption even though it shows up in only 3 or 4 places repeatedly? |
| 11:43:20 | * | [Saint] notes that kugel apparently broke android in the build system |
| 11:43:35 | [Saint] | "2013-01-29 23:42:32 Error: You specified arch android15 but the output of 'android list target' did not include 'API level: 15'." |
| 11:43:57 | [Saint] | (not a bug on my side, API15 was depricated) |
| 11:44:17 | DmL | alright guys, I gotta get some shut-eye, hope I was able to help a little |
| 11:45:57 | pamaury | I could try to build a prototype mmu protection: map iram with very small pages, make code ro, map dram with larger pages, make code ro and put stacks in a special section far away from the code in virtual memory (and perhaps in physical memory if possible also) |
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| 11:46:25 | funman | wodz: yes but i think i stopped in the middle of it |
| 11:46:52 | wodz | pamaury: would be nice |
| 11:47:52 | wodz | I think initial idea was to interleave small ro and rw sections so out of bounds write would trigger abort easily |
| 11:48:46 | pamaury | that would be a huge waste of virtual memory, you would need a second level table for the entire code no ? And how can you interleave them ? |
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| 11:50:31 | funman | manual copy? |
| 11:50:51 | funman | we could do this in a debug mode |
| 11:50:52 | [Saint] | Oh, derp...all I needed to do was change "android15" to "android16". |
| 11:51:01 | funman | wasting tons of memory is ok if it helps finding bugs |
| 11:52:15 | pamaury | that would already require a much more clever loader, we would need list of all the ro sections |
| 11:52:53 | [Saint] | Hum...how do I submit a patch for www.git? |
| 11:54:00 | * | [Saint] spots gevaertscommitting there and active here, and pounces |
| 11:54:09 | [Saint] | *gevaerts committing |
| 11:55:42 | wodz | anyway g#239 |
| 11:55:43 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #239 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/239 : WIP: read-only memory on sansa AMS using MMU by Rafaël Carré (changes/39/239/2) |
| 11:56:24 | gevaerts | [Saint]: same as everywhere else |
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| 11:58:35 | [Saint] | gah... |
| 11:58:55 | * | [Saint] can't really be buggered checking out www for a one char patch |
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| 12:17:29 | funman | wodz: thanks, i didn't remember where it was ^_^ |
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| 12:21:35 | redhot | Guys, to upload data to http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaRuntime shout I know the exact SVN number |
| 12:21:46 | redhot | I have used RockBox 3.12 Release |
| 12:22:06 | lorenzo92 | I want to start looking at WM1808, if I see any similute we can hopefully integrate it cleanly into rockbox reusing WMxxxx code |
| 12:22:12 | redhot | It shoould be mentioned "RockBox 3.12 Release" or I should put there exact SVN number? |
| 12:24:25 | wodz | lorenzo92: which WM code? There are quite a few WMxxxx drivers in our codebase. |
| 12:24:38 | wodz | lorenzo92: for some WMs we don't have DS also |
| 12:24:40 | funman | redhot: yeah please put the exact version |
| 12:24:47 | lorenzo92 | wodz: yes, I see, I need to find out |
| 12:25:02 | redhot | funman: how can I know it? |
| 12:25:30 | redhot | Is it possible from device? |
| 12:25:39 | funman | system -> info possibly |
| 12:26:03 | redhot | nope, it's just tells me 3.12 |
| 12:27:12 | funman | put 3.12 then |
| 12:27:24 | funman | you can't be more exact than that ;) |
| 12:27:40 | wodz | lorenzo92: do you have DS for this WM1808? I may have a look - I extended WM8751 driver to support WM8750 once upon a time. |
| 12:27:43 | redhot | funman: oh, thanks a lot :)) |
| 12:28:28 | lorenzo92 | wodz: unfortunately not, but I have a full documented driver for alsa linux (samsung OSS package), I see lots of similarites with wm8758 atm |
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| 12:31:12 | lorenzo92 | wodz: definitely, it's pretty the same ;) |
| 12:32:09 | wodz | lorenzo92: pay attention to register map AFAIK there are subtle differences between codecs even in the same family |
| 12:34:51 | wodz | heh WM website doesn't mention about wm1808 |
| 12:36:14 | redhot | funman: ok, thanks it has been uploaded ;) |
| 12:36:36 | redhot | FLAC L5 running time 11:50 while MP3 320kbps 10:50 only |
| 12:36:49 | redhot | It makes me completely move to FLAC :) |
| 12:43:33 | wodz | lorenzo92: Some EV board docs floating around refer to: WM1808, WM8957, WM8983, WM8985, WM8986 |
| 12:49:33 | funman | redhot: nice, but it seems to imply your battery is aging? there are reports of 16-17 hrs on the wiki no? |
| 12:50:45 | redhot | funman: main question for me was MP3 vs FLAC. and FLAC wins. btw I have used relatively powerful headphones hence battery live is less |
| 12:51:18 | redhot | battery is 6 month old |
| 12:51:24 | funman | redhot: ok, might be interessting to compare these results with codec performance |
| 12:51:30 | funman | i.e. MHz |
| 12:51:35 | copper | power hungry* |
| 12:52:34 | copper | the Clip's battery seems to run pretty fast |
| 12:52:40 | copper | I've been spoiled by the iPod Classic |
| 12:52:42 | funman | ]Dreamt 87 points 2 heures de ça |
| 12:52:54 | copper | hein? |
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| 12:53:12 | funman | unwanted copy/pasting sorry |
| 12:55:02 | redhot | copper: 10-15 hrs is quite enough |
| 12:55:15 | redhot | for most people |
| 12:55:18 | copper | depends for whom |
| 12:55:38 | redhot | for most of them it is ok ;) |
| 12:58:18 | copper | [citation needed] |
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| 13:00:34 | redhot | "640K ought to be enough for anybody" :-D |
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| 13:18:48 | lorenzo92 | :D |
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| 13:56:45 | wodz | [Saint]: What is the purpose of 'black' color in lamp plugin? That kinda contradicts the purpose, no? |
| 13:58:31 | redhot | bye ;) |
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| 14:04:04 | lorenzo92 | hum I'm having a error: 'LANG_HW_EQ_GAIN' undeclared here (not in a function) error....any hints? |
| 14:05:21 | lorenzo92 | okay I found out why, possibly |
| 14:11:16 | lorenzo92 | hum no I know why but I cannot understand the problem... |
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| 14:19:27 | pamaury | lorenzo92: usually it's because the lang file misses your target in the list of a string |
| 14:19:43 | lorenzo92 | ahh okay, I'll try :) |
| 14:20:29 | lorenzo92 | ouch! I need to add my target to all the lang files? |
| 14:20:37 | pamaury | no |
| 14:20:43 | pamaury | only the english one |
| 14:20:53 | lorenzo92 | ^^ now's better :D |
| 14:21:14 | pamaury | I don't remember how it works but I think english is enough, maybe someone can confirm |
| 14:26:25 | lorenzo92 | pamaury: it partially worked, now having troubles in settings_list |
| 14:26:37 | pamaury | which troubles ? |
| 14:27:30 | lorenzo92 | warning: missing initializer |
| 14:28:45 | pamaury | perhaps you need some #define hacking |
| 14:29:01 | pamaury | or you are missing a target define |
| 14:29:17 | lorenzo92 | it's already there I guess #ifdef HAVE_WM8978 |
| 14:30:07 | pamaury | it's only a warning but should probably have a look to understand it |
| 14:30:38 | lorenzo92 | but it actually stops gcc, let me re-run it |
| 14:30:48 | pamaury | try make clean, we never know ^^ |
| 14:30:58 | lorenzo92 | ahhh |
| 14:31:03 | lorenzo92 | okay missing string |
| 14:31:05 | lorenzo92 | :D |
| 14:31:11 | lorenzo92 | the last one probably |
| 14:34:02 | lorenzo92 | pamaury: thanks for the hint, mistery solved, later I will study a way to manage codec registers, I guess I'll do something from the linux side i.e. a module |
| 14:34:55 | pamaury | maybe it's time to have a look at the different WM drivers and refactor them ! What is the codec in the R1 ? |
| 14:35:45 | lorenzo92 | WM1808, but it is similar (apart 1 registers that have been added to it) to the WM8978 |
| 14:35:51 | lorenzo92 | used in gigabeat-s |
| 14:36:03 | lorenzo92 | that's why I wanted to try it out on R1 |
| 14:36:18 | pamaury | strange ^^ I was under the impression that all the WM are similar anyway |
| 14:37:24 | lorenzo92 | not really sure, since for example power register 1 is not located @0x1 for all wm's |
| 14:38:24 | pamaury | sure there are some differences, but if they are minor, we don't need 10 drivers |
| 14:38:50 | lorenzo92 | unfortunately samsung did not export to userspace register editing for the wm1808, so I wll need to create an external module (similar to my si4709 module) |
| 14:39:13 | lorenzo92 | pamaury: yes, you are right, but only where it's indeed similar |
| 14:40:20 | pamaury | unfortunately we don't have the datasheet for all of them, that's a problem |
| 14:42:16 | lorenzo92 | ah okay so wm1808 is not the only problematic one... |
| 14:43:43 | pamaury | no, I think there are few other ones too, maybe we should gather all the datasheets we have and see |
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| 14:54:47 | Gremuchnik | Hi, I put a Sandisk 16GB MicroSDHC Memory Card, Class 4, in my SansaClip+. Could I format it in ext4 or ext3 if I only use RockBox? Thanks! |
| 14:54:56 | wodz | pamaury: I remember looking at our code for WM and it will not be that easy to unify |
| 14:55:22 | wodz | Gremuchnik: no, rockbox supports fat exclusively |
| 14:56:25 | Gremuchnik | wodz, thanks. Too bad though, fat sucks :-( Where could I log in a "requested feature"? |
| 14:57:55 | wodz | forum, but this will have no effect in this case unless you code ext support by yourself and provide patch. This is complex task no-dev have interest in AFAIK |
| 14:58:41 | Gremuchnik | ok. thanks. you guys rock! cya :-) |
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| 17:35:33 | pamaury | bluebrother: http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/391/ |
| 17:35:40 | pamaury | g#391 |
| 17:35:42 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #391 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/391 : Add initial support for the Zen X-Fi3 and the CAB archives. by Amaury Pouly (changes/91/391/1) |
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| 21:37:09 | bluebrother | pamaury: nice. I've added some comments, might add some more later. |
| 21:38:01 | pamaury | I don't know rbutil and qt very much so I probably made some bad things ^^ |
| 21:38:08 | pamaury | I tested it and it worked |
| 21:38:24 | pamaury | I had to rename mspack's system.h to system-mspack.h because of a name conflict |
| 21:39:43 | pamaury | I tried to factor ziputil and mspackutil, I don't know if I did it in a very qt way, you tell me |
| 21:40:22 | pamaury | the changes are #include <bla> to #include "bla" |
| 21:40:35 | pamaury | but okay, I'll try to put as a separate commit |
| 21:41:41 | bluebrother | hmm, changing those includes shouldn't be necessary. |
| 21:42:10 | pamaury | I didn't understand how you could put the mspack directory in the includes |
| 21:42:15 | bluebrother | might be a good idea to build a libmspack and link that ... |
| 21:42:40 | pamaury | ok |
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| 21:43:01 | bluebrother | like this: |
| 21:43:02 | bluebrother | INCLUDEPATH += $$RBBASE_DIR/rbutil/ipodpatcher |
| 21:43:07 | bluebrother | in rbutilqt.pro |
| 21:43:29 | bluebrother | building some libmspack.a and linking that would also remove the system.h clash |
| 21:43:33 | pamaury | do you think it's better to build mspack as a separate library ? |
| 21:44:07 | bluebrother | not sure. |
| 21:44:33 | bluebrother | this might also be a good chance to rename system.cpp to hostsystem.cpp |
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| 21:44:44 | bluebrother | a class named System has a somewhat generic name :) |
| 21:45:10 | kugel | JdGordon: ping |
| 21:45:55 | bluebrother | the changes to rbutil.ini are nothing that needs discussion IMO −− they could go in pretty much now. That would enable support for the X-Fi3, the only remaining problem for the user would be to perform the cabextract manually :) |
| 21:46:55 | bluebrother | I can try to build Windows development binaries afterwards the next couple of days so people can test. |
| 21:47:14 | bluebrother | would be interesting to see if the new HttpGet class is working without problems as well :) |
| 21:47:29 | pamaury | ok, the goal was more to put everything together so I can test it, I didn't expect to commit it as one block anyway |
| 21:48:00 | bluebrother | ok |
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| 21:49:13 | pamaury | now I know what to fix ^^ |
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| 21:49:57 | pamaury | is the way of making ZipUtil and MsPackUtil children of some common class ok or you prefer something else ? |
| 21:49:58 | * | Strife89 believes he has found a bug to report. |
| 21:51:16 | bluebrother | I'm a bit unsure about it but I think it makes sense doing it that way |
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| 23:21:55 | JdGordon | kugel: ? |
| 23:24:26 | kugel | JdGordon: do you remember the reason you implemented STYLE_XY_PIXELS instead of just un-staticing putsxyofs()? |
| 23:24:44 | kugel | I'm working on a scroll engine/lcd api overhaul |
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| 23:53:21 | Wally | hold on |
| 23:53:24 | Wally | I'm looking wrong |
| 23:55:54 | [Saint] | Yes, and, yes you are. |
| 23:56:08 | * | [Saint] suggests reading the manual, or, reading it better. ;) |
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