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#rockbox log for 2013-02-27

00:00:27soapThe DR compressor, OTOH, takes 12Mhz. Is that going to vary by content or is it a constant hit?
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01:32:55saratogaSoap: "its probably like 6-8MHz per band would be my random guess" <<<<< not bad
01:33:21saratogawe should probably limit older players to 5 bands
01:34:24saratogai have no idea about the compressor
01:35:23soapwhat is the 1.8Mhz constant pull on the EQ?
01:36:31saratogai'm not sure
01:36:37saratogamaybe the precut?
01:36:38soapit looks like my math was bad first time around because I extrapolated the 1 band delta to 10. But after testing more bands it looks like 1 = 6mhz, but each additional one is more like 4.
01:37:14soapprecut was at 0db for those tests.
01:38:06soapdidn't know if it was coincidence that the hit for any EQ was 1.8Mhz, same as power needed to decode WAV.
01:39:21saratogaits probably enabling some extra DSP stage when you enable EQ
01:39:30saratogait may also do the precut correction even for 0dB
01:39:42saratogai don't remember
01:40:05saratoga1.8MHz is about how much looping through 44.1k audio and doing a single multiply should take
01:43:06saratogahas anyone tested the extra bands on coldfire?
01:43:24saratogai wonder if we should just make them ARMv5 or better?
01:43:42saratogahmm no since the gigabeat F is ARMv4
01:44:05saratogahow about CPU_ARM && !CPU_PP
01:44:10saratogaor whatever the defines are
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02:35:45soap10 bands will apparently work on PP, just not for long or with some codecs
02:41:12saratogaMP3 takes about 20 MHz (on the main core), display is a couple more, then figure 45 for all 10 bands
02:41:18saratogaso you have maybe 10 MHz to spare
02:41:28saratogaprovided you use mp3 or flac
02:42:15soapwhich probably is the vast majority of rockbox users.
02:43:01soap(though I can imagine a day not too far off when people install rockbox because it's the only portable solution left which plays wma)
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08:37:46wodzI measured boot times of my rk2705 dap. bootloader + rockbox.rkw ~5.5s, bootloader + rockbox.rkwu ~5s, plain rockbox.rkw ~3s; where rkw - firmware file with uncompressed binary payload, rkwu - firmware with ucl compressed binary payload
08:38:17wodzSo I'll drop the idea as it doesn't make noticeable difference
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10:37:38JdGordonHow do i stop the plugins from getting checked in the deps make step?
10:38:01JdGordonevery one is complaining about unsupported keypad (duh!)
10:39:13wodzyou can disable plugins all together
10:39:23wodzin configure I mean
10:40:37JdGordonsetting plugins="no" doesnt work
10:41:05wodzplugins="" will do
10:41:16JdGordonwould it be better to switch to getting the "bootloader" build gong first?
10:52:02JdGordonwhy the heck is buflib in the bootloader?
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11:01:00JdGordon(im attempting to virtualise rockbox....) which CONFIG_STORAGE should I use? my block device interface is just read/write block+size...
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11:04:36wodzJdGordon: I guess flash and implement ftl as simple wrapper and flash specific functions as stubs
11:08:53JdGordonok, I'm a long way off, i just want to stub everything i need to get the bootloader to build
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11:12:51JdGordonramdisk is even easier :)
11:14:22JdGordonok... now all I need is a crt0.s and I'm done :p
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11:15:21gevaertsJdGordon: in the long run, you'll probably need your own specific storage backend, and yes, I'd use the ramdisk code as a template
11:16:35gevaertsJdGordon: you can probably use bin2c and friends (and possibly some linker tricks to make sure it doesn't end up in .rodata) to prepopulate the ramdisk
11:16:51JdGordonyep, but im miles away from that
11:17:20JdGordonfirst milestone is getting something to build and actually run, then using the uart for lcd_put
11:17:39JdGordonthen 6 months later ( :p ) actual devices
11:18:26wodzgevaerts: whats the outcom of your bdm session?
11:21:15gevaertswodz: I haven't managed to boot a bootloader yet, but it's unclear why at this point (new and broken?, old and incompatible with the current toolchain?, me doing something wrong with the flash-to-iram move?). I wasn't awake enough after a while to continue
11:21:54gevaertsAnyway, the bdm part works fine, so I should be able to get through this. I do have some old toolchains lying around somewhere too, so I should be able to build old code properly
11:23:33gevaertsWell, apart from the pins I have to short being awkwardly under the HD, which will be a problem as soon as I have something running :)
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11:34:22wodzgevaerts: I think you should upload patch for bdm server to our repo (it is hack rather but works). I never posted this patch anywhere so me, you and Linus are the only persons having this code.
11:37:17copperI have a feature request for the Fuze+ port, should I make a flyspray entry?
11:41:26Tornewe don't take feature requests
11:41:50Torneso, you should make a patch ;)
11:42:05copperwhat
11:42:10copperI protest
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11:57:33gevaertscopper: we don't take protest :)
11:57:48gevaertswodz: yes, I'll do that
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14:14:23sargwodz: are you familiar with IDA for arm?
14:15:46sargI am disassembling FlashBoot.bin, and there is BLX to address which IDA don't treat as valid instructions
14:19:33sargha, forget that, I found where to set ARMv7 instruction set with Thumb-2 extensions
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14:26:44sargalso, those broken vector tables in rk30usbplug were caused by incorrect target processor setting in IDA
14:27:06sargthere was default armv6 with thumb
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14:56:27wodzsarg: That is what I expected and thats why I asked for hex values of this opcodes
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17:13:53*copper doesn't understand
17:14:19copper'%s%ac%in %?it<%it|%fn>' displays the track number fine
17:14:29copper'%s%ac%?in<%in |>%?it<%it|%fn>' displays no track number
17:15:03coppermpc file, apetag, track = 1/12
17:21:45copper'%s%ac%?in<%in |xx >%?it<%it|%fn>' %in there evaluates to false
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17:21:56copperthe tracknumber is present but 'xx ' gets displayed
17:22:00*copper thinks it's a bug
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17:44:35XFaCEIs it common to have freezes while playing back some files using cue sheets?
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17:44:38copper'%s%ac%?in<%in |>%?it<%it|%fn>' works in the sim but not on the Fuze+ (rbutil git)
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17:52:43copper[Saint]: http://outpost.fr/stuff/stripes-wps.png
17:53:07copperI need to do the FM radio
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18:00:21copper'%s%ac%?in<%in |>%?it<%it|%fn>' still displays no tracknumber with today's rockbox dev build
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18:10:33lebelliumisn't it an issue with %s and %ac put together?
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18:43:57copperlebellium: no, I added %s later
18:43:59copperI'm gonna try something
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18:57:08copperI can't get a consistent behavior
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19:55:00copperhttp://outpost.fr/stuff/stripes-fms.png
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19:58:30copperI can't select a preset file with the Fuze+ (bottom-right key)
19:59:28coppereven though I have .rockbox/fmpresets/Perpignan.fmr
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20:00:57lebelliumYes that's because of Perpignan. Come to Paris \o/
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20:01:30copperI wish
20:02:34copperbottom-right in the radio view definitely doesn't work
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20:03:04copperbottom-left neither
20:04:25copperI think my theme is pretty much done
20:05:10copper[Saint]: you were right!
20:05:15coppernot so difficult
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23:41:05[Saint]copper: interesting catch with %?in
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