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#rockbox log for 2013-03-25

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00:34:26andrei0635hi everyone, i just flashed my iPod 6th or 7th generation with the tool on, is there any newer release of rockbox other than the one available in that site? :)
00:35:12andrei0635any help would be really apreciated :D
00:36:11gevaertsYes. See
00:37:10andrei0635so that is the latest?
00:37:44gevaertsThe URL there always points to the latest development build, yes
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00:38:01gevaertsWhich is currently about eight hours old
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00:40:02[Saint]...this just happened, same guy, in another channel. :)
00:40:57andrei0635well, you can always research :)
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01:14:58RiD[Saint] not much left to finish it
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01:34:52RiDoh no
01:35:39*[Saint] has no way of telling RiD exactly how creepy it is that he was listening to that very track when he opened that screenshot.
01:36:01[Saint]I mean....damn man. That's some voodoo.
01:36:03RiDare you serious?
01:36:18RiD(Bonus Track) or just It Hertz?
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01:37:06[Saint]The very same track, from the very same album. The progress was probably reasonably close in the screenshot to my position in the track too.
01:37:13*[Saint] shudders
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01:37:33RiDthat's 1 in a billion
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01:38:14RiDI might have superpowers that I am not aware of
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01:38:30RiDAlso, is it in FLAC or MP3?
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01:39:20RiDOk, FLAC here
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01:40:38[Saint]If Roadhouse Blues Remix is up next on your playlist, I'm going to explode.
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01:41:27RiDIt isn't :(
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01:42:09RiDWasn't shuffling, so Don't Stop (Bonus Track)
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05:16:03[Saint]Why does the "System" context menu go to Settings - General Settings - System?
05:16:11[Saint]...the two are entirely unrelated.
05:17:34*[Saint] doesn't want to start this up again, but...
05:18:00[Saint]The System main menu item is really...odd.
05:18:19[Saint]There's no need for it to be a main menu item.
05:18:43[Saint]And yes, I know I can remove it - but I don't want to /remove/ it, I'd just like it in a sane place. :)
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05:18:59[Saint]Settings - System - About or so.
05:19:35[Saint](with the debug menu defaulting to off for release builds)
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10:04:13OldgramHello! I played a bit with the FNT format of RockBox in order to make some fonts and I think I got it completely. Can I get access to edit pages on the wiki in order to complete the documentation page of it? ( and just one thing to make sure: If I understood correctly (from playing with fonts) if nbits is larger that 2^16 then bits are padded to 32-bit boundary (instead of 16-bit) and offset size
10:04:13Oldgramis noffset*4 (instead of noffset*2), did it get it right? Thanks! (My wiki name is ItayFlikier)
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10:06:34ZagorOldgram: added
10:08:18OldgramZagor, thanks!
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10:21:14trollin420hey any1 there i got a quick question
10:21:57[Saint]dozens of people, just ask.
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10:22:57trollin420hey saint, yea can i change the way the ipod boots with rockbox.... there a way to have it go directly to rockbox instead of having to select it at the 'boot menu' screen?
10:25:02wodztrollin420: I suspect you are asking about emcore which is NOT part of rockbox
10:26:25[Saint]trollin420: Yeah, I think you're confusing two unrelated projects - or not quite understanding the line that defines them.
10:26:26trollin420technically i guess, dunno though
10:26:30bebnatrollin420: Wasn't there a autostart timer option in emCore? Don't remember now and can't check now. Ask again in #freemyipod-support
10:26:37[Saint]WHat you want to do is possible, but technically off-topic here.
10:27:02trollin420ok, understood back to other channel then
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10:49:31wodzpamaury: how did you use rkusbtool ?
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10:56:51trollin420hey whats the largest resolution for a cover art, would 2811x2811 be too big? or does rockbox automatically scale the jpg
10:57:29[Saint]the screen is 320x240
10:57:39[Saint]anything past 240x240 is wasteful.
10:57:42pamaurywodz: see my mail
10:57:56pamauryI wasn't able to use rkusbtool so I use the "magic" file
10:58:21[Saint]ANd yes, Rockbox does automatically scale the album art - but you'll almost certainly want to reduce the size.
10:58:29[Saint]~3Kx~3K is *massive*
10:58:34pamaurythere must be a bug in the scsi implementation becausr using -s or -i with rkusbtool sent the OF back to dfu mode or crashed
10:58:55trollin420ok thanks
11:00:22wodzpamaury: ok, I'll look at disasm. The tool works with my rk2705 dap
11:01:25pamaurymaybe I did something wrong, I noticed that after putting the magic file I had to reboot for the system partition to appear
11:01:59wodzpamaury: thats normal, OF checks the presence of magic file on startup only
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11:11:38pamaurywodz: is the lcd handling "standard" on rk2705 usually ? how do you manage to have a generic driver ?
11:13:53wodzpamaury: the intermediate block (lcdif) is more or less standard. It can be setup in 8/16/18 bit bus width. Panel lcd driver is not standard (hifimans use 2 different chips, generic dap uses just another one)
11:15:27pamauryok, I guess this one might be using another lcd
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11:16:50wodzWe will see. I have FLIRT signatures prepared from sdk I have so if the version is sufficiently similar figuring out lcd init code should be mostly automatic
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11:25:23[Saint]pixelma: shifting here due to topic-ness:
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11:25:48[Saint]IIRC, displaying square AA in a non-square window is possible, and vice versa
11:30:45pixelmamaybe if you want stretching but not how I wanted it. In an example screen - 320x320 and trimmed by the viewport - which was possible in general for smaller portions. Yes I know that parts might be missing and that it is a bit unusual but
11:31:56pixelmaor any other way to get it fullscreen trimmed and not stretched
11:36:01pixelmawithout having to prepare a second set of images. Hmm, sounds demanding now but I wouldn't think it would be so much more complicated that it wouldn't be worth it
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11:40:04[Saint]I don't think AA can "stretch"
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11:44:44pixelmamaybe I misunderstood you and ran off with a different idea. If you mean album art trimmed by the viewport then you are right but for the size it still limits itself by the smaller of the two screen dimensions squared
11:50:59[Saint]iirc, that was a bug, and I believe JdGordon fixed this recently.
11:51:18[Saint]...whoops, I just highlighted him, so I guess we'll find out eventually.
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12:04:28pixelmaI'm not sure if it's the same issue, gut feeling says "no" somehow. And I asked Jd Gordon about the fix and he answered he wouldn't know if what I want would be possible now. Guess I have to try once more
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14:28:08lebelliumFS #12846 is related to FS #12639
14:28:09fs-bluebot Various Themes makes ClipZip USB-port unstable (bugs, unconfirmed)
14:28:09fs-bluebot Certain themes cause the WPS to not load properly and USB to not work (bugs, unconfirmed)
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14:47:55Triffid_Hunterhi, I have stable rockbox on a sandisk sansa clip+, just found a bug- when the unit is charging, the alarm doesn't work!
14:48:14Triffid_Hunteris that fixed in devel or should I log a bug somewhere?
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14:50:08Triffid_HunterI suppose it's more general than that and unrelated to charging; the alarm does not resume playback if the player is already turned on
14:51:01funmanlebellium: looks like duplicate indeed
14:51:30funmanlebellium: ticket closed as dupe
14:53:05Triffid_Hunteralso, is there a way to add hold button functionality? the clip+ has several buttons that are easily pressed by pockets, the power button is recessed however and would make a great hold release
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14:56:47Triffid_Hunteroh nvm I found the lock combo
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15:11:41Triffid_Hunteradded for the alarm thing, only other thing I could find was a decade old closed feature request with only one comment
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15:21:16bebnaTriffid_Hunter: "Player Type: Sansa AMSv2" why only Sansa?
15:21:42Triffid_Hunterbebna: haven't actually checked any other players
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17:19:33lebelliumis supposed to enable RDS name and text on Clip+ or is it something else?
17:24:50pamaurylebellium: it seems to enable rds on clip+ with si4702 tuner chips, but I'm unsure this is the right way of doing this
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17:30:34lebelliumaccording to, the Clip+ either features a Si4702 or a RDA5802 but on mine in the debug menu>FM radio it says "SI4700 regs" so I don't know if I have a si4700 or 4702
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17:46:10lebelliumwell this patch doesn't work on my Clip+
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18:03:11RiDis it just me or is this page lacking equalizer?
18:03:38Torneit lacks equaliser because the archos player doesn't have an equaliser
18:03:49Torneit decodes mp3 in hardware, so we can't apply any DSP effects to it
18:03:54RiDi didn't even see "archosplayer"
18:04:13RiDmy bad
18:04:14Tornethe manuals are built for each device to only mention the thigns that device supports
18:04:44RiDis there a page where it shows every setting name?
18:04:47RiDfor every device
18:05:01Torneyou could read the source for the manual
18:05:04Torneor the source for Rockbox
18:05:09Tornewhy do you want to know?
18:05:31Tornewe add new settings fairly often, so if you incorporate such a list into something then it will soon be out of date
18:06:02RiDbecause there's no manual for my device (unofficial port, nokia n900)
18:07:04Tornewe don't build it, but i thought the code was there
18:07:30RiDoh, i don't know exactly
18:08:02Tornethe code is in our tree, you can probably just build the manual
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18:43:06pixelmaI don't think platform files for any RaaA targets exist, so probably the manual won't build
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18:51:02pixelmaRiD: the closest you could get is probably the Cowon D2 manual because it's the only touchscreen device that has a manual as far as I know. You have to ignore the radio part though
18:57:47RiDah thanks. Found what i wanted
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19:18:29jay567Hi. I just installed Rockbox and the manual said I can easily create a playlist with all sound files in it. However in the main menu there is is only a "playlist catalog" option, the "playlist" option is missing... please help
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19:58:37jay567How can I play all music in one playlist?
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19:59:12Viperfangeither generate a playlist file, or use the database
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20:00:31jay567in the manual it says "To create a playlist containing all music on your player, you can use the Create Playlist command in the Playlists menu found in the Main Menu. The created playlist will be named root.m3u8 and saved in the root of your player’s disk." but I can't figure it out
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20:01:36jay567there isn't even a playlists menu, only playlist catalog
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20:02:23jay567and in there is no create item, also not in the context menu
20:04:05jay567via the database the files are not in the right order
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20:17:02jay567now I found the create playlist command, but it creates an empty playlist
20:22:25jay567Are you telling me that when I simply want to listen to all tracks on the player in order, I have to manually add every folder to a playlist first?
20:28:38RiDjay567 do you have a folder named "music" or so?
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20:32:49jay567Rid, I see that this is a workaround, putting all the music in a subfolder.
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20:33:05RiDyes, then add it to current playlist
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20:33:32RiDand to avoid further hassle, set file explorer to start inside the music folder
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20:38:09RiDguys, i need help! I'm making an Equalizer ON/OFF button, but I can't make it turn OFF, only ON. I'm making a mistake somewhere, but i can't find it *duh*
20:38:22RiD%if(%St(eq enabled),!=,off,2)<%T(200,0,99,95,setting_set,eq enabled,off)|%T(200,0,99,95,setting_set,eq enabled,on)>
20:38:52jay567I find it ugly to have to put the files in a subfolder as the device is a pure music player, but it's not really a showstopper.
20:39:48gevaertsIt's an audio player. You might have e.g. podcasts on it as well :)
20:40:59jay567gevaerts: I see. I wonder though, doesn't this question come up very often?
20:42:04gevaertsIt does a bit, I think, and there are ways, but I don't make such playlists, so I haven't ever cared much. I'm sure a forum search will turn up some ideas though
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20:51:48jay567I didn't even notice the forum yet, thanks.
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21:30:31jay567following the instructions in topic 42639, it worked. Apparently you need to enter and exit the file browser first.
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21:39:27mrtuxI turned on my ipod mini this afternoon
21:39:35mrtuxand rockbox won't start
21:39:39mrtuxit says this:
21:39:51mrtuxLast night it worked fine.
21:40:23AlexPmrtux: Connect it to USB in the OF (or is emergency disk mode) and check the disk for corruption
21:40:47AlexPoriginal firmware
21:41:00AlexPI'd just follow the instructions in your paste for disk mode
21:41:02mrtuxthe origional firmware loaded fine
21:41:13AlexPIt is on a different partition
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21:43:00mrtuxshould i try the apple ipod diagnostic program thing on it?
21:43:16AlexPIf you want, but I'd just check the disk for errors
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21:50:39mrtuxAlexP, I'm gonna try a reinstall.
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22:00:05amayeri forget who did this last time but the themesite says "Works with current build" and "Works with release 3.12" gevaerts ?
22:00:20amayerreading the code it looks like its in the database
22:01:10gevaertsSomething needs to happen. I hope rasher remembers what :)
22:06:09mrtuxAlexP, I fixed it.
22:06:18mrtuxa reinstall seems to be the fix here
22:06:46gevaertsIf you have filesystem corruption, a reinstall might help for a while. but you'll have issues again later
22:07:01AlexPmrtux: Excellent, but I'd still check the filesystem
22:07:41mrtuxi like rockbox, sure beats apple's sh*tty firmware :-)
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22:08:24mrtuxuhh, mikmod is screwed up.
22:08:32mrtuxit loads a sound file
22:08:37mrtuxand says "No error"
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22:10:39AlexPI'd check the filesystem
22:11:20AlexPI'm assuming you are on Windows?
22:11:34AlexPfsck.vfat then
22:11:43mrtuxi first installed rockbox on windows
22:12:12AlexPDoesn't matter, you are just checking the filesystem like you would for any other drive
22:13:17mrtuxthe command doesn't exist.
22:13:32AlexPwhat distro?
22:14:02AlexPpacman -S dosfstools
22:14:57mrtuxhas a dirty bit
22:15:05mrtuxremove dirty bit?
22:15:50*bluebrother recommends using Windows :P
22:15:59mrtuxhate windows.
22:16:56mrtux*I hate Windows
22:17:14AlexPthe dirty bit indicates that corruption has been detected IIRC
22:17:32mrtuxi fixed it supposedly
22:17:39mrtuxgonna install rockbox again
22:17:45AlexPHave you umounted the drive first?
22:17:59AlexPAnd what fsck options did you use?
22:18:06mrtuxsometimes i forget to unmount things
22:18:12mrtuxand usb cables sometimes come loose
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22:19:17bluebrotherjust because you hate Windows doesn't mean you can use it for fixing filesystem errors
22:19:32mrtuxi don't have a windows pc.
22:20:28AlexPWhat fsck options did you use? Did you actually scan for and fix corruption?
22:21:01AlexPyes isn't a fsck option
22:21:18bluebrotherfsck -yes
22:21:24bluebrotheror is it −−yes?
22:21:35mrtuxi didn't use yes
22:21:39AlexPbluebrother: I'd say they are seperate options, so -yes
22:21:59AlexPmrtux: I'm trying to help, but it isn't easy when you don't answer questions
22:22:43bluebrotherAlexP: fsck -y es maybe? :D
22:22:51AlexPcould be :)
22:23:18bluebrotherbut there's actually fsck.vfat -y
22:23:47mrtuxwhen I said "yes" that was answering a question :-)
22:23:58AlexPOnly one half of it
22:24:06bluebrother-y es
22:24:41bluebrotheranyway, from my experience Windows' chkdsk /f works best in those cases. If you like Windows or not.
22:25:47mrtuxi only have a windows virtual machine
22:25:58mrtuxso i can't use windows :-)
22:26:02mrtuxfor this
22:26:20mrtuxunless i can somehow let virtualbox use my old ipod.
22:26:33gevaertsYou can
22:27:04*bluebrother just let a windows VM access an e200 a couple of minutes ago
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22:27:35*bluebrother points to Devices / USB Devices menu
22:29:00bluebrotherhmm. Is there a way to figure if a device is removable in Linux?
22:29:50mrtuxi need to remember to always unmount a device before unplugging it
22:29:55mrtuxsometimes i don't do that.
22:30:17bluebrotherthen I bet you have filesystem errors
22:30:35mrtuxprobably so
22:30:48mrtuxbut iirc i always ran umount before unplugging it
22:31:21mrtuxi can always replace the disk on the ipod
22:31:28mrtuxit's just a 4gb microdrive
22:31:40mrtuxi can buy a 8gb compactflash card if need be
22:31:48AlexPWhy replace it?
22:31:56AlexPIf you do corrupt it, just fix it
22:31:58bluebrotherhave fun restoring without Itunes :)
22:32:06mrtuxewww itunes.
22:32:17*bluebrother said "without" :)
22:32:18mrtuxi'd just reinstall rockbox on it
22:32:26AlexPYou can't
22:32:32AlexPWithout a working apple firmware
22:32:38mrtuxmy father has a windows laptop
22:32:44mrtuxgood 'nuff.
22:32:53AlexPwell, you do what you want. We've given our advice
22:33:03bluebrotherthere's really no need for that. Just fix the filesystem
22:33:20mrtuxyeah or just dump the ipod, it's old, beaten up.
22:33:35mrtuxsort of beaten up
22:33:42mrtuxfew scratches on the casing
22:33:54*bluebrother still prefers his mini to all other players
22:34:12[Saint_]The mini is a damn fine player.
22:34:26bluebrothersound quality of the h100 is better
22:34:27[Saint_]But, if its got scratches...I mean, well...yuck.
22:34:29mrtuxwish it had a color screen but it's nice.
22:34:36mrtuxjust a few
22:34:37[Saint_]My girlfirend got a scratch once.
22:34:44mrtuxi should have said dents
22:34:46[Saint_]I dumped that biatch like a hot rock.
22:34:51bluebrotheracutally I prefer the mini because it doesn't have a colour screen
22:34:54AlexP[Saint_]: I hope you dropped her quicksmart
22:34:55mrtuxonly a few scratches on the back
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22:37:54rashergevaerts: I believe it's something like "build a round of checkwps for the release version, put the release version in a file somewhere file"
22:38:13ikeboyI've been trying to apply some old patches and I can't figure out this line "const struct button_mapping *plugin_contexts[] = {generic_directions, generic_actions};" It appears in a couple of old ones.
22:38:50bluebrothercan't figure out as in ...?
22:39:14ikeboyas in error: ‘generic_directions’ undeclared here (not in a function)
22:39:41bluebrotherprobably has been renamed in the meantime
22:39:49mrtuxwell f*ck.
22:39:49bluebrotheror that structure changed
22:40:19gevaertsrasher: probably update checkwps/release/ and run it, I guess. Shall I have a go, or will you?
22:41:26rashergevaerts: please do so :)
22:41:27bertrikdreamlayers has been hard-core reverse engineering a TCC760 player:">
22:41:55rashergevaerts: I think the release version is written in a file somewhere?
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22:42:06gevaertsIt is, yes
22:42:16gevaertsBut I think the script handles that
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22:43:06ikeboyDoes anyone khow what the {generic_directions, generic_actions} used to do?
22:45:17rashergevaerts: maybe it got smarter since I touched it :)
22:45:36gevaertsrasher: that's done. Now let's figure out if we need to do anything to run it :)
22:45:45ikeboyIt also seems that the type of "plugin_start" has changed
22:46:16gevaertsikeboy: a lot has changed in that area over the years...
22:46:37ikeboyWhere is the documentation of the changes
22:46:47gevaertsgit log :)
22:47:11gevaertsrasher: I'm assuming the cron job will catch up, so let's leave it at that for now
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23:00:55mrtuxi'm tired of fixing it
23:00:58mrtuxit works for now
23:01:03mrtuxjust mikmod won't work
23:01:15mrtuxprobably my .xm files etc are corrupt or something
23:01:24mrtuxnot gonna mess with it for now
23:06:29RiDhai hai
23:06:43RiD I'm making an Equalizer ON/OFF button, but I can't make it turn OFF, only ON. I'm making a mistake somewhere, but i can't find it
23:06:48RiD%if(%St(eq enabled),!=,off,2)<%T(200,0,99,95,setting_set,eq enabled,off)|%T(200,0,99,95,setting_set,eq enabled,on)>
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23:20:31wodzpamaury: Archos vision 28 uses 16bit lcdc interface. Panel controller init sequence doesn't look familiar.
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23:35:39wodzpamaury: screen is configured as 240x320 as far as I can tell
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23:48:57wodzpamaury: The interesting thing is that various regs of this controller seems to have different width. Thats the first time I see something like this.

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