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06:27:16[Saint]amayer: did you get to look at that change I suggested (much) earlier?
06:28:03[Saint]btw: I assume you're talking about the volume/progress switching shenanigans in the iLike theme, yes?
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11:31:56jlbiasinipamaury: do you want me to write a bug report regarding the SD bug?
11:33:20pamauryjlbiasini: that would be nice yeah, then i'll edit my post to point to it
11:33:30pamauryI need to reproduce the bug myself
11:34:30jlbiasiniit's quite easy for me but it might be related to special situation
11:35:25jlbiasiniso far I check that it's not related to special settings i. e. happens also with default settings
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11:38:46jlbiasinipamaury: when I unplug the sd card from the rockbox info menu it show a message "scanning file" so the unplugging of card get detected. When I replug it is doens'nt say anything. Might be a detection problem
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11:40:55pamaurycould you bisect the problem ?
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11:44:57jlbiasiniI will try but last time I tried I had the feeling I didn't understood how to do it...
11:45:26pamauryit is explained on the wiki
11:45:39pamauryfind a good and bad revision and then run git bisect and let it guide you
11:45:55jlbiasiniYes I know I will tryy again and see
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12:03:09jlbiasinihow do I get a old revision for finding a bad one? if I do "git reset −−hard HEAD~N" won't also reset my "git bisect bad" against the current revision?
12:04:02jlbiasini*won't it
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12:05:05pamauryjlbiasini: git reset −−hard <rev>
12:05:17pamauryif you do git reset −−hard HEAD~N, you got backward N revisions
12:05:38jlbiasiniand it won't reset the bisect ok thanks
12:05:46pamauryjlbiasini: yes it will !
12:06:00pamaurygit bisect does this for you
12:06:41jlbiasiniok so I first have to find a good revision myself
12:06:59jlbiasiniand then use bisect to find the turning point
12:07:16pamauryyes, just google git bisect, there are plenty of examples
12:07:28pamaurymy guess is that HEAD~100 is a good revision
12:07:36pamauryHEAD~200 if you want to be sure
12:08:30jlbiasiniyeah you've been trolling the tree for 2 weeks!!! :D
12:13:11lebelliumpamaury: does the FMS soft lock patch need some other testing ?
12:14:12pamaurydon't think so
12:16:56lebelliummaybe you are waiting for other things to commit at the same time to break your previous record this month? But I guess that will be difficult to do better :D
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12:20:20pamauryno no, I should commit that, i'll wait until tonight
12:21:15lebelliumokay great
12:21:25lebelliumthen FS #12868 can be close
12:21:29fs-bluebot keylock doesn't work in fm receiver mode (bugs, unconfirmed)
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12:22:14jlbiasinipamaury: actually this is quite recent: head~50 is good
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13:04:12jlbiasinimake zip
13:04:24jlbiasinioups sorry :D
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13:07:17jlbiasinipamaury: this is the one;a=commit;h=94cb723
13:08:58gevaertsOf course. When looking for a bug with system X, *always* look for a commit that says "Fix system X" :)
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13:18:26pamauryjlbiasini: thanks
13:18:38pamauryI was afraid this would be the one
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13:18:59jlbiasinishould I go on with a bug report?
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13:19:23jlbiasinior is it something that could be fixed quickly?
13:19:55pamaurywait before creating a bug report, this needs some investigation
13:20:06pamauryI could always revert but it will break some others cards :-/
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13:34:51kugelpamaury: don't you need a non-NULL response parameter for MCI_RESP?
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13:39:16pamaurykugel: no
13:39:51pamauryif you set it to NULL it means wait for the answer but throw it away
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13:40:20pamaurywhereas if you set MCI_NORESP, it means don't wait for the answer, which is bad
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13:41:58jlbiasinithe curious thing is that conecting usb and disconecting make it works... I don't get how this is even possible...
13:43:58wodzSo are there any other concerns about g#190 besides the one with load_strerror.c being separate file raised by kugel?
13:44:01fs-bluebotGerrit review #190 at : Move load_firmware() to separate file by Marcin Bukat (changes/90/190/9)
13:44:21kugelnot here
13:45:17wodzkugel: Honestly I don't see any benefit from integrating loader_strerror.c into rb-loader.c.
13:45:46kugelI don't see any benefit from having it in a separate file
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13:47:29kugela benifit would be, although probably not even measurable, is smaller compile time
13:47:31wodzkugel: well it contains error strings for all loaders (RB, RKW, MI4) while rb-loader.c is for rockbox add method only.
13:48:08wodzI am against mixing this together
13:48:33kugelI don't feel strong about it
13:49:29kugelI just find the content so tiny and trivial that it doesn't justify another file in our (large) codebase but I'm not going to fight about it
13:49:44*wodz pushes the button
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14:01:11pamauryok I think I know what is the issue: the switch function not only sends a response but also some data to notify that the switch is finished, so this call should transfer data actually and/or wait for 100ms which is the timeout for the data transfer as specificied the by SD specification
14:02:02pamauryso a dirty fix would be to reintroduce the sleep (but keep the response)
14:02:36kugelwhat do other sd drivers do?
14:03:21kugelthe init sequence is similar (if not identical) across
14:03:35pamauryjust sleep
14:03:57pamaurybut that's unreliable, i've seen cards and sd/nand bridge which won't work with just the delay
14:04:07kugelI guess the fix should be made in the other drivers as well
14:04:09pamaurymost probably because the host doesn't provide the clock
14:04:54pamauryin theory we all agree that the sd drivers should somehow be merged but that's tricky, non-trivial changes can break lots of things
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14:08:28wodzOnce upon a time I had unified sd init code for all drivers. I dropped this approach when discovered that rk27xx doesn't return reliably answer for entering TRAN state command for unknown reason.
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17:45:18jlbiasinipamaury: is there a way you could check if the card use this specific message and keep this special protocol as long as the card remains plugged in?
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18:00:03jlbiasinipamaury: I tried to rebuild on the last commit with adding only the sleep instruction that was remove in the problematic commit and it still doesn't work...
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18:05:31jlbiasinipamaury: so I tried with a longer sleep (HZ unstead of HZ/10) it still doesn't work
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18:11:16jlbiasinipamaury: reversing the whole patch won't work either :o
18:13:17jlbiasiniand breaks usb!!!
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20:24:35pamauryjlbiasini: ping
20:25:11pamaurycould you test with this: pamaury/5879015">
20:29:53jlbiasinipamaury: how to apply it? I've tried "patch -p1 < sd_fix.diff" from root of rockbox but it says patch unexpectedly ends in middle of line and then Hunk #2 succeeded at 479 with fuzz 1.
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20:30:50SuperBrainAKis there no usb storage with the sansa clip zip yet?
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20:34:21pamauryjlbiasini: are you sure you are at HEAD of the trunk ?
20:34:52jlbiasiniI just checked and it seems that the patch apply correctly
20:35:29gevaertsProbably something weird with pasting
20:35:36pamauryI have editted the patch, same address. There is no noticeable difference, maybe bad pasting
20:35:59gevaertsPatch doesn't always behave nicely if e.g. the very last line ending isn't there
20:36:18jlbiasinino idea anyway I'm compiling
20:37:15pamauryI was missing the last list apparently
20:37:31jlbiasiniit compiled ok
20:40:13jlbiasinipamaury: ok it's working! :D
20:41:18pamaurycool :)
20:42:11pamaurythis will break on stmp3600, I think i'll clean this up a little bit before committing
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20:51:27pamaurygevaerts: do you know why none of our SD drivers correctly implements the sd switch ? I realised that when ready the spec: it sends back a short response and 64 bytes of data when switched
20:51:43gevaertsNo, sorry. I've never looked at sd
20:52:50pamauryactually that's a very unusual command style for SD
21:04:22wodzpamaury: Do you know by any chance the nand manufacturer and part number in your rk27xx?
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21:10:21pamaurywodz: I have to open it, wait a few minutes
21:13:10pamauryhum, it's partly covered by a sticker, not so easy to read and remove
21:18:23wodzpamaury: Does it have one or two nand chips?
21:18:57pamauryexcept if there is one hidden under the screen
21:21:43wodzyou should have unpopulated place for the second chip in this case
21:22:22pamaurywait a second, i'll upload a photo
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22:43:43TeruFSX2is anybody making nightlies for ipod classic?
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23:08:35n1sTeruFSX2: no, but we have regular dev builds for it
23:09:16TeruFSX2it doesn't show up on the dev builds page
23:10:12n1sah, right
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23:14:55swiftkickhello, question about a strange filesystem error I get on sansa devices under rockbox
23:15:55swiftkickunder windows
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23:16:16swiftkickI have a folder that should be called "brent lewis - rhythm hunter" that i copied at some point in the past to the SD card
23:16:17amayerswiftkick, just ask the question. if anyone can help they will respond
23:16:29swiftkickhowever when I view it under windows, the file is called "5D040000_brent lewis - rhythm hunter "
23:16:38swiftkickand I have several such folders
23:16:57swiftkickunder windows, a CHKDSK reports no errors, yet I cant delete or rename them
23:18:05swiftkickthese are on a sansa fuze
23:18:34swiftkickanother fun issue: i have two sansa fuze. probably slightly different hardware editions of the same firmware revision (v2) if memory serves
23:18:44swiftkickinserting the USB in one, it wants to boot to sansa firmware
23:19:46swiftkickand i can otherwise power on that one into the default rockbox firmware and THEN connect cable and it seems to work just fine, filesystem access and all
23:19:59swiftkickthe other one, usb cable insertion causes power on to rockbox firmware
23:20:31swiftkickbut it just shows a usb connector on the screen, cant use the device while its connected (unlike the 1st device i mentioned, if i boot to rockbox and then insert cable, it works just fine)
23:21:04swiftkicki will try re-flashing each with the absolute latest bootloader and firmware in a moment
23:21:08swiftkicksee if that affects anything
23:21:40swiftkickbut im wondering if anyone else has had folder names that are apparently corrupt when accessed in windows over the USB yet seem to work fine in rockbox (havent tried sansa firmware) ?
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