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00:06:03	lebellium	never head of these nicknames
00:06:05	lebellium	heard*
00:06:23	lebellium	they don't seem to be much active, are they :)
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00:22:29	lebellium	oh Nico_P was responsible for WPS code before JdGordon ? But where is he? Still another French gone :(
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01:24:51	lebellium	JdGordon: oh sorry, I didn't want to highlight you. I'm just wondering who is this sNico_P and where is he now :)
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01:43:53	jhMikeS	JdGordon: yes?
01:50:48	[Saint]	TheSeven: Have you ever noticed that the Classic HDD doesn't seem to sound like it appreciates fastboot very much?
01:51:20	[Saint]	It sounds like the drive just abruptly powers down.
01:52:00	[Saint]	(in the initial second or so of emCORE fastboot before Rockbox takes over)
01:52:01	jhMikeS	JdGordon: just wanted to know what you thought about g570 (I'm very tired right now though)
01:52:03	wowaname	there's a lot of things the Classic doesn't like to do. like support an alternate operating system without hanging every hour
01:52:04	fs-bluebot	Gerrit review #570 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/570 : Remove scroll thread and power scrollers when waiting for buttons. by Michael Sevakis (changes/70/570/2)
01:52:15	wowaname	:p
01:52:44	[Saint]	wowaname: No one else seems to have this issue. Perhaps you could enlighten us as to a repeatable fail case.
01:52:56	wowaname	i had a couple of error codes
01:52:59	[Saint]	I use my Classic daily, without event.
01:53:06	wowaname	one i think i relayed to irc
01:53:09	wowaname	lemme check the log
01:53:31	wowaname	Aug 15 18:53:02 wowaname» one time error: tried to access database list and it returned an error with address 0x65029840
01:54:01	wowaname	also, today: undefined instruction @ 0805ee10 when running minesweeper
01:54:26	wowaname	salted with random hangs that make a buzzing noise through headphones and require a hard restart
01:55:16	wowaname	and a few days ago, the FAT32 header was corrupt and i could not write to the disk, either with a computer or internally, and it would immediately panic at startup with a stack overflow for directory cache
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01:57:05	[Saint]	That it odd. I rely on this target being stable enough for my partner to use on a daily basis, and so far it has done so without issue.
01:57:09	[Saint]	*is
01:57:16	TheSeven	[Saint]: is it a "hard" or "soft" click?
01:57:27	TheSeven	i.e. like a menu+select reset, or just like parking heads?
01:57:36	[Saint]	I use mine daily as well, and have managed to produce a few weird states but nothing repeatable.
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01:57:49	[Saint]	TheSeven: Its a hard click.
01:58:01	[Saint]	It sounds like an abrupt poweroff.
01:58:16	TheSeven	that is kinda odd
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01:58:32	TheSeven	does it also happen when disabling fastboot and then booting rockbox immediately after the menu comes up?
01:58:39	TheSeven	i.e. before the disk has parked heads?
01:58:51	[Saint]	One second.
01:59:15	TheSeven	execfirmware() is supposed to power down the drive properly
01:59:36	TheSeven	but typically the drive is idle and has parked heads itself before emcore powers it down
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02:00:31	TheSeven	in this particular case, it could be that the heads are still on the platter, and the drive doesn't manage to park them in time before it gets powered down by emcore (in the process of handing over control)
02:01:07	TheSeven	I know that the drive's firmware is buggy enough to signal completion too early, so I added some safety margin already. maybe it isn't sufficient for your particular drive model
02:01:24	TheSeven	which classic model is that?
02:01:35	[Saint]	Interestingly, it makes the same horrible noise in Rockbox at poweroff.
02:01:42	[Saint]	ANd I hadn't noticed 'til now.
02:02:00	[Saint]	The only time I hear it park the heads nicely is during normal usage in Rockbox, and the emCORE menu.
02:02:02	TheSeven	it probably doesn't if it has been powered off because it was idle before you shut it down
02:03:12	[Saint]	WHat is Rockbox doing when it spins up the disc to shut down?
02:03:32	[Saint]	I didn't think we needed to save anything before poweroff.
02:03:37	[Saint]	I guess I'm wrong.
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02:03:58	TheSeven	hm... it shouldn't need to do anything
02:04:14	TheSeven	everything that needed to be done should have been done when the idle callback fired before powering down the drive
02:04:16	[Saint]	If I let it idle timeout, its deciding to spin up just before shutdown.
02:04:23	TheSeven	so unless you've e.g. changed settings since then...
02:04:24	[Saint]	Uuuugh.
02:04:36	TheSeven	were you playing music?
02:04:43	[Saint]	No.
02:04:49	[Saint]	Just sitting on the main menu.
02:04:53	TheSeven	hm, so it can't be the playlist control file either
02:05:35	[Saint]	I need to get home and look at this further and make sure everything is kosher and it still acts this way repeatably in a "clean" state.
02:07:02	[Saint]	Yes. Its definitely, definitely, spinning up and failing to park properly just before shutdown.
02:08:03	[Saint]	I have no way of loading an unmodified binary onto it at present, but my changes are so benign I really doubt this to be the cause.
02:09:39	[Saint]	as soon as the Shutting Down splash fires, the disk spins up.
02:10:16	[Saint]	Of course, that splash doesn't fire long, and very shortly after power is abruptly cut so it sounds kinda unhealthy - even if it is probably fine.
02:10:33	[Saint]	It makes me wonder what is being read/written at this point?
02:14:31	[Saint]	If I boot to emCORE menu whilst listening intently, I can hear it behaving as it should. Same as with letting it sit idle in Rockbox. But fastboot and shutting down ROckbox makes a very ugly noise. It surprises me I haven't noticed this before, but not that much I guess.
02:16:08	[Saint]	Yeah - either this is selective deafness, or its not parking the heads before spinning down in the Rb poweroff/fastboot cases.
02:17:39	TheSeven	seems like the drive takes too long to park them then
02:19:51	TheSeven	we might need to increase the safeguard delay
02:19:51	[Saint]	sorry, model - Classic 160GB "fat".
02:19:51	TheSeven	hm, ce-ata... might be a special case
02:19:51	TheSeven	I'm usually testing on 80gb or on 160gb thin
02:19:51	[Saint]	Aha.
02:19:51	DBUG	Enqueued KICK TheSeven
02:19:51	TheSeven	(I had only borrowed a ce-ata ipod at some point to implement that driver)
02:20:17	[Saint]	I may be able to ship one on the basis of permanent Rb development loan for active developers.
02:21:37	[Saint]	failing that, I can try with a larger margin if pointed to the appropriate area(s) of source.
02:25:23	TheSeven	hm, looks like the ce-ata driver doesn't have any feedback for this and just waits for a second
02:25:53	TheSeven	(the pata driver waits for RDY and then waits another 33ms)
02:26:05	TheSeven	http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=blob;f=firmware/target/arm/s5l8702/ipod6g/storage_ata-ipod6g.c;h=395c0f49e646199a3d16bbb5f63c33be2643c1e3;hb=refs/heads/master#l680
02:26:13	TheSeven	increase that to e.g. HZ * 2
02:26:48	TheSeven	or maybe try adding a ceata_wait_idle() call before that sleep
02:26:56	TheSeven	but I think I left that out because the OF didn't do it either
02:27:38	TheSeven	for emCORE it's in http://websvn.freemyipod.org/filedetails.php?repname=freemyipod&path=%2Femcore%2Ftrunk%2Ftarget%2Fipodclassic%2Fstorage_ata.c
02:27:53	TheSeven	ceata_write_multiple_register(0, ceata_taskfile, 16);
02:27:53	TheSeven	sleep(1000000);
02:27:53	TheSeven	clockgate_enable(9, false);
02:28:03	TheSeven	increase that sleep to e.g. 2000000
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02:57:36	wowaname	i am sure people are aware but you have a lot of broken links on the wiki that i assume should direct to the git repo
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03:53:20	eahm	guys, why is only WavPack available as compressed lossless for recordings?
03:53:43	eahm	don't care about other codecs, I'd only like to know why you picked WV
03:54:16	eahm	encoding speed? decoding speed? is there a rockbox documents regarding the recording specs?
03:54:17	eahm	thanks
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04:13:45	[Saint]	were I to speculate, I would say because there isn't any encoding, so to speak.
04:14:16	[Saint]	Samples are packaged at given intervals from raw PCM, afaik.
04:17:12	[Saint]	(11, 22, 44kHz etc.)
04:20:49	[Saint]	Oddly, I can't seem to find any indication that anyone has plotted the CPU hit from recording in various formats/samplerates on any given target.
04:22:36	[Saint]	eahm: anyway - yeah - I would speculate that wav is offer because it is quite trivial to implement.
04:22:41	[Saint]	*offered
04:24:54	eahm	wave?
04:25:18	eahm	I was asking about WavPack :)
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04:40:18	wowaname	guise i'm making a .colours file, currently with 90 working filetypes, if anyone's interested in seeing it
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04:47:34	*	[Saint] once did a similar project with an .icons file and custom viewers icons
04:48:22	wowaname	i'm also working on the viewers.config
04:48:47	wowaname	that'll prolly be more personally-geared but still i can pastebin when finished
04:49:34	wowaname	if there's more than one entry of the same ext, then will only the first found be used?
04:49:45	wowaname	[Saint]» do you know the behaviour of viewers
04:50:01	[Saint]	How so?
04:50:09	wowaname	as i stated above
04:50:13	wowaname	like
04:50:28	wowaname	default, jpeg has 3 items
04:50:36	wowaname	imageviewer, test_core and test_mem _jpeg
04:50:56	wowaname	are the last 2 ignored
04:51:25	[Saint]	http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomIcons#The_34.icons_34_File
04:51:35	*	wowaname looks
04:52:16	wowaname	is that supposed to answer my question
04:52:17	[Saint]	the two *test_ entries should have the plugins icon
04:52:20	wowaname	oh
04:52:21	wowaname	ok
04:52:51	[Saint]	as, although they operate with jpeg files, they are themselves .rock
04:52:56	[Saint]	which donates a plugin
04:52:59	wowaname	ok
04:53:44	wowaname	oh they're run within the imageviewer?
04:54:41	[Saint]	No, they're plugins themselves.
04:55:06	wowaname	but they're called from the imageviewer or not
04:55:44	[Saint]	I am completely unsure what you mean by this.
04:56:24	wowaname	i have no fucking clue what the test_ plugins do
04:56:33	wowaname	that's what i mean
04:56:39	wowaname	:p
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04:57:28	saratoga	eahm: its a simple, fixed point less lossless format
04:58:20	saratoga	also helps that the developer behind wavpack also works on rockbox
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05:12:03	*	[Saint] can consistently reproduce a data abort on the Classic when attempting to play files from the file browser
05:12:23	[Saint]	Oddly, it is fine if playback is initiated first with the Database.
05:13:53	[Saint]	Actually, no, its not. Hum.
05:20:03	eahm	7:58:18 <saratoga> also helps that the developer behind wavpack also works on rockbox <- yep, this may be it :)
05:20:25	eahm	I couldn't think of any reasons why not use FLAC as well
05:20:32	eahm	faster decompressing etc.
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05:31:06	saratoga	you don't care about decompressing, only compressing for that application
05:31:21	saratoga	wavpack is really simple and can do lossy too
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05:40:08	eahm	flac is faster even for compressing
05:40:40	eahm	i guess the size matters more since the compression speed was already enough for the little players' cpus
05:43:59	[Saint]	iiuc, wavpack isn't really "compressed".
05:46:03	[Saint]	Someone is free to correct me, but I don't believe it to be compression so much as sampling from PCM at a defined rate.
05:46:36	[Saint]	In our use case, for recording, at least.
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06:46:05	saratoga	in lossless mode, wavpack is a lot like flac
06:46:20	saratoga	in lossy mode, its basically lossless compression at a fixed number of bits per sample IIRC
06:46:30	saratoga	so lossy doesn't have a psy model like a normal codec
06:46:34	saratoga	but its still compressed
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09:14:00	jlbiasini	hi all, I think I could use some help with c compilation: I have 2 new firmware/touchdev.h and .c files. The file touchdev.h is included in my target touchpad drivers and in action.c. Still a function defined in the .h breaks the compilation: "apps/action.c:306: undefined reference to `touchdev_do_hold'" what am I missing?
09:17:23	jlbiasini	I don't know if this can explain but I'm compiling the simulator
09:22:57	JdGordon	have you added it to firmware/SOURCES ?
09:23:07	jlbiasini	no
09:23:18	jlbiasini	this is probably it then...
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09:37:33	jlbiasini	JdGordon: is the correct include in apps "firmware/touchdev.h" or "../firmware/touchdev.h"?
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09:38:04	jlbiasini	I meant in apps/action.c
09:40:13	jlbiasini	ok I think I got it
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10:47:17	[Saint]	saratoga: thanks for the clarification
10:57:17	[Saint]	Would there be any opposition to adding some of the more exotic metadata fields?
10:58:00	[Saint]	album artist sort order, release type/status, subdisc, etc.
10:59:10	Zagor	for acting on or just for displaying in the wps?
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11:01:40	[Saint]	WPS/tag cache
11:02:23	[Saint]	Database display/sorting and WPS display.
11:05:00	[Saint]	I suppose the issue is standardization?
11:12:45	[Saint]	supporting equalization info in metadata might be nice, too. Hum.
11:14:26	[Saint]	Bleargh.
11:15:28	[Saint]	Silly informal standards.
11:18:02	Zagor	yeah that's always a problem when straying off the narrow path
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11:53:21	JdGordon	jlbiasini: shold just be "touchdev.h"
11:53:37	jlbiasini	JdGordon: thanks
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12:16:56	jlbiasini	JdGordon: how can a variable definition in touchdev.h "bool touch_enable = true;" lead to a multiple definition error (given that I've put condition for the compiler to avoid the file to be loaded more than once)?
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12:17:20	JdGordon	because you dont do that in the header
12:17:56	JdGordon	dont use a global variable like that... add "touch_enable() and touch_disable() or similar
12:18:29	jlbiasini	ok
12:22:53	Torne	jlbiasini: that causes a variable called touch_enable to be defined in every .c file that includes touchdev.h directly or indirectly
12:23:21	Torne	so then at link time there is more than one symbol with the same name
12:24:15	jlbiasini	I would have thought that a ifndef condition would have avoided such a case...
12:24:26	Torne	No, every .c file is compiled independently from scratch
12:24:34	Torne	That stops the header being included more than once into the same compilation unit
12:24:45	Torne	You end up with at most one definition of the variable per object file
12:24:52	jlbiasini	ah ok!
12:35:28	jlbiasini	what about weak symbol? I have a function that should be weak in the touchdev.c and when possible get redefined at driver level. So I have "void __attribute__((weak)) touchdev_enable(bool en);" in touchdev.h. Then I have 2 complete definition without the weak attribute: one in touchdev.c, one in button-fuzeplus.c. Is that the right way to do?
12:37:28	Torne	No, if you declare it as weak in the header then that will make any definition in a compilation unit that uses the header weak
12:37:59	Torne	the header should have an extern declaration of the function
12:38:04	Torne	without the weak attribute.
12:38:14	Torne	then in touchdev.c you should have a non-extern declaration with __attribute__((weak))
12:38:18	Torne	and also the definition
12:38:25	Torne	and in button-fuzeplus.c just the regular definition
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13:04:06	copper	is it normal that %bc doesn't return "c" on the iPod Classic?
13:04:13	copper	(battery charging)
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13:21:55	jlbiasini	Torne: thanks very much! So the extern means that the function can be redifined anywhere in the code, isn't it?
13:22:34	Torne	extern declares that this function will be available in another compilation unit later, and therefore the compiler shoud just assume it will exist and leave it undefined
13:22:45	Torne	a non-extern declaration takes priority in the same compilation unit
13:23:50	jlbiasini	what do you call a compilation unit?
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13:25:28	jlbiasini	ah ok I can google it :)
13:29:29	jlbiasini	pamaury: ping
13:30:00	pamaury	jlbiasini: pong
13:30:45	jlbiasini	it could be usefull to push g#525 because future patches will rely on it
13:31:15	jlbiasini	pamaury: ^
13:31:26	pamaury	ok let me check
13:31:58	jlbiasini	also I thought I will have the new file named touchdev_hold.c/h
13:31:59	fs-bluebot	Gerrit review #525 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/525 : [Fuze+][Touchpad] Improve touchpad power managment by Jean-Louis Biasini (changes/25/525/10)
13:33:01	pamaury	why not touchdev.c/h ? It does a little more than hold since it will contain the weak implementation of touchdev_enable
13:33:16	pamaury	g#525 looks go, I will commit it
13:33:18	fs-bluebot	Gerrit review #525 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/525 : [Fuze+][Touchpad] Improve touchpad power managment by Jean-Louis Biasini (changes/25/525/10)
13:33:58	pamaury	damned, I can't login on gerrit anymore :-/
13:34:21	jlbiasini	pamaury: ok, also I think I will also document those function somewhere
13:34:33	Zagor	pamaury: huh? works for me.
13:34:36	pamaury	hum strange, it tells me it cannot login but I'm logged it, interesting
13:34:53	pamaury	something about page cannot be found
13:34:56	pamaury	anyway
13:35:58	pamaury	jlbiasini: did try different values of the timeout in the patch ? Your commit message says 1 minute but the code says 5 second :)
13:36:02	pamaury	*did you
13:36:38	jlbiasini	yes that's the comment that is wrong
13:37:02	pamaury	ok, I'll commit anyway
13:37:03	jlbiasini	we wanted to check if we couldn't have instant change
13:37:16	jlbiasini	It turned out we can
13:37:39	pamaury	ah good :) I don't know what I would do without you testing everything ^^
13:37:41	jlbiasini	but putting 1 sec seemed a little useless to me
13:37:49	jlbiasini	;)
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13:38:00	jlbiasini	so I setted it to 5
13:43:10	jlbiasini	pamaury: another question. Thanks to Torne and JdGordon I'm getting further with that weak functions. But now we have them in touchdev files I cannot set them in touchscreen anymore because else it will be either another weak definition and I assume touchdev wil prevail; or a hard definition and then it will prevail on any further definition at driver level. Is there a way to turn this around our should I define the weak fun
13:43:10	jlbiasini	ction in touchdev #ifdef HAVE_TOUCHPAD and in touchscreen #ifdef HAVE_TOUCHSCREEN?
13:44:16	pamaury	I think you should put everything in touchdev.c and leave touchscreen.c alone
13:45:05	pamaury	ie in touchdev.c put the weak implementation and nothing in touchscreen.c; then always compile touchdev.c #if HAVE_TOUCHPAD or HAVE_TOUCHSCREEN
13:45:44	pamaury	finally any target can reimplement touchdev_enable at will in any file as non-weak and it will prevail over the one in touchdev.c
13:45:47	pamaury	is it clear ?
13:46:41	jlbiasini	pamaury: the problem is that I need a switch in touchscreen.c to be operated by touchdev_enable in the generic case of touchscreen
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13:47:46	pamaury	ah, hum.
13:48:05	jlbiasini	yes that's the little problem I have
13:48:23	pamaury	in this case, maybe you can have one implementation in touchscreen.c (#if HAVE_TOUCHSCREEN) and one in touchdev.c (#if HAVE_TOUCHPAD and not HAVE_TOUCHSCREEN)
13:48:29	pamaury	(both weak)
13:48:55	jlbiasini	ok that's what I was saying, I just wanted to bu sure
13:49:16	jlbiasini	thank you I will do that now
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14:04:44	pamaury	ok
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15:09:21	nerys64	when porting rockbox to a new device, how does that process begin? Like how do you guys "decode" the initial firmware and make anything bootable?
15:09:56	nerys64	im asking because the stock firmware on the Fiio x3 is BS
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15:17:50	copper	"yes, X3 has some problem with OGG format and we will fix it in the future. sorry it is not a easy work caz X3 is develop from zero . "
15:17:53	copper	lol
15:18:00	copper	^^ FiiO spokesperson
15:18:19	copper	should have gone Rockbox, bitches
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15:20:34	Zagor	nerys64: here are some steps: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort
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15:21:21	copper	why is it again that such companies (who have no previous experience with DAPs) don't just license Rockbox?
15:21:44	Zagor	my guess is they want their own brand and full control
15:21:49	Zagor	and "how hard can it be?"
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15:22:11	copper	I would think that they would ask themselves "how much is this gonna cost"
15:22:40	copper	and "how much is it going to cost to maintain this"
15:22:53	Zagor	what? maintain? what's that?
15:23:08	copper	surprisingly enough, they do!
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15:24:36	copper	I don't know, it just seems so tempting to me, to license a full blown firmware that already does pretty much everything people are going to ask for
15:25:01	copper	just make a branded theme and be done with it
15:25:44	copper	like, right now, some of their customers are trying to petition FiiO to add a parametric EQ
15:25:54	Zagor	haha
15:27:31	copper	and I'm sure they could have easily modified Rockbox to be, erm, more "user friendly"
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15:29:29	copper	the reality is that most of those proprietary firmwares are largery inferior, and often downright broken
15:29:58	copper	because they have neither the will or the competence to come up with anything proper
15:30:08	copper	or the financial means
15:30:18	copper	paying competent software engineers and all
15:30:22	Zagor	and they have been for 10+ years :)
15:31:07	copper	like
15:31:17	copper	I think it's FiiO that added a parameter to *disable
15:31:25	copper	disable gapless playback
15:31:26	copper	wtf?
15:31:28	copper	disable it?
15:31:38	lebellium	yes
15:31:44	lebellium	because it's not true gapless playback
15:31:54	lebellium	it's either gapless on any track or on no track
15:31:55	Zagor	also, apple has taught people that gapless is evil
15:32:07	Zagor	so some people actually don't want it
15:32:09	copper	uh?
15:32:16	copper	iTunes and iPods are gapless
15:32:27	Zagor	or at least that was the case until they finally added gapless to their ipods
15:32:44	copper	… a long time ago
15:32:53	copper	maybe a decade ago
15:32:57	Zagor	nope
15:33:00	Zagor	you'd be surprised
15:33:38	Torne	"gapless" means at least two things, also
15:33:40	Zagor	if took many years of whining for them to admit there it was useful
15:34:11	Torne	there's a big difference between "the playback system doesn't insert a gap between the decoded data of one track and the next" and "the decoding system does the weird fucking about you have to do to eliminate gaps from mp3 because of overlapped frames"
15:34:23	Torne	the latter requiring special knowledge about the way the encoding was done :/
15:36:22	Torne	Well, there's only a big difference if you listen to mp3s, but hey
15:36:24	Torne	most people do :)
15:37:14	Zagor	in a similar fashion, it took Spotify ~3 years to add gapless to their client. and they do 100% vorbis.
15:37:25	copper	I have no idea how feasible it would be technically, but I guess the FiiO X3 would be a decent candidate for a new port
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15:38:22	lebellium	find a motivated Rockbox dev who wants to spend €200 then :D
15:38:30	copper	sounds like a powerful beast, suitable for plugging it into hi-fis and whatnot
15:38:58	copper	(without gain)
15:39:04	Zagor	we have money for hardware, if anyone wants to take a credible whack at it
15:39:06	copper	IIRC it outputs 1.7V
15:51:16	nerys64	well, looking at that posted link i think im not really capable of doing that dev work
15:51:38	nerys64	seems easy enough but at that multimeter and spec sheet of various chips part, i'd get kidn of lost
15:51:46	nerys64	plus no working mp3 player
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16:23:46	jlbiasini	one nasty bug while compiling gigabeat fx simulator: http://pastebin.com/fqLXDrsP
16:23:56	jlbiasini	I didn't do anything in codec...
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16:46:30	pixelma	jlbiasini: not sure at all, just asking... do you build in a separate directory for the sim or not?
16:48:07	jlbiasini	pixelma: no I found the issue: I didnt do a rm -r * after having compile the normal and configuring/compiling the simulator
16:49:17	pixelma	you should only need a "make clean" after reconfiguring - or build in different directories
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16:49:53	jlbiasini	I think I justed to be sure ;)
16:50:45	jlbiasini	so I nuked the dir
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17:48:08	SovonHalder	copper: is there anything changed on the themes since we last talked about it?
17:48:17	copper	lots
17:48:24	copper	did you see my last post on ABI?
17:49:36	SovonHalder	no I didn't see it..
17:49:39	SovonHalder	I will now
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19:25:30	madcat1990	Well, it happened again
19:25:51	madcat1990	while using MP3 Tag, adding covers to about 20 ish files, and foobar2k to play a song at the same time
19:26:12	madcat1990	I got two empty Removeable devices, and the device (Clip+) Stopped responding..
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20:45:26	jlbiasini	I have a function declared in firmware/touchdev.h and defined in firmware/touchdev.c, touchdev.c is in firmware/SOURCES. I have a #include "touchdev.h" in button-meg-fx.c. There is a call for this function in button-meg-fx.c, and the compiler keeps on error: http://pastebin.com/CXUHtHpZ
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21:22:45	SovonHalder	copper: hi, I just checked your bew themes
21:23:29	SovonHalder	you really replaced next song with track information ?
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21:37:31	copper	SovonHalder: I replaced it with date / codec
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21:38:09	copper	you can press "select" to see where you are in the playlist, and what comes next
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21:40:04	saratoga	is there a firmware unpack tool for ingenic?
21:44:33	saratoga	ah yeah
21:44:33	saratoga	utils/jz4740_tools/IHFSsplit.c
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21:48:24	pamaury	saratoga: working on an ingenic device ?
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21:48:41	saratoga	just curious if they use our decoders
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22:01:17	jlbiasini	pamaury: ping?
22:06:34	copper	saratoga is really asking about the FiiO X3 :P
22:07:44	pamaury	jlbiasini: yes
22:07:59	jlbiasini	g#569 is almost ready
22:08:02	fs-bluebot	Gerrit review #569 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/569 : [touch devices]Disable touch device on softlock/keyhold. by Jean-Louis Biasini (changes/69/569/6)
22:10:51	jlbiasini	pamaury: I just have a compilation problem with button-meg-fx.c (gigabeat-fx touchpad driver) and I cannot solve it(it would be nice if you could find out why it doesn't compile for the gigabeat-fx). It works on the fuze+ and compile on touchscreen with dependency g#532
22:10:54	fs-bluebot	Gerrit review #532 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/532 : [touchscreen] touchdev_enable implementation by Jean-Louis Biasini (changes/32/532/7)
22:11:39	jlbiasini	but this dependency still has to be tested
22:12:09	jlbiasini	do we know people having gigabeat-fx?
22:15:05	pamaury	maybe send a mail to the ML, I don't know who has one. Or look at git blame
22:15:26	pamaury	small remark: why "extern" in the header ?
22:15:56	jlbiasini	wich one?
22:15:57	pamaury	extern void touchdev_enable(bool en);
22:16:09	pamaury	that's unnecessary
22:16:13	jlbiasini	in touchscreen
22:16:44	pamaury	in touchdev.h
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22:18:45	pamaury	i'll have a look at the compile error
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22:19:54	jlbiasini	it is necessary because touchdev_enable(bool en) is needed by touchdev_disable_dev_on_hold but not defined here: it get defined in touchscreen or touchpad. So I have to declare it. As I used to had a weak definition I needed to have it extern but I guess now I can take the extern attribute out
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22:20:47	pamaury	the extern attribute is not needed
22:21:20	jlbiasini	pamaury: you are right I will correct it.
22:21:21	*	gevaerts has two gigabeat Fs and one gigabeat X
22:21:35	jlbiasini	great
22:21:36	gevaerts	And anyone who doesn't have one of those is insane :)
22:22:39	pamaury	you should export touchdev_disable_dev_on_hold is the header (touchdev.h) too
22:23:21	pamaury	*in the header
22:23:28	pamaury	and what about the setting ?
22:25:45	jlbiasini	well I tought the setting will come in a separated commit
22:26:27	pamaury	if you do that then you should default to disable on hold as false
22:26:32	jlbiasini	because this one has already enought differents kind of change that have to be commited together
22:26:35	pamaury	but I think it's better in the same commit
22:27:23	jlbiasini	yes I know it has to be set to false either way actually but it wass just the draft
22:27:52	jlbiasini	to recieve all the different advice of stuf to modify
22:28:49	pamaury	I think the setting should be part of it, otherwise the set_disable_on_hold function doesn't really make sense and if for some reason we want to revert it, it's better to have the setting with it
22:29:07	pamaury	maybe someone else can give his opinion on this
22:29:45	jlbiasini	the compile error seems to be related to the fact that button-meg-fx.c calls touchdev_do_hold but it does contains #include "touchdev.h" and still errors
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22:30:10	jlbiasini	ok I have no problem with having also the setting with it
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