| 00:00:00 | Insider | it works!!!! |
| 00:00:07 | Insider | Volume is now DECENT! |
| 00:00:17 | Insider | pamaury YOU ARE MY HEROOOOOOO! :) |
| 00:00:26 | pamaury | thanks :) |
| 00:00:43 | pamaury | could you give me the link where you found the american version of the firmware ? |
| 00:00:46 | Insider | FUCK OFF THAT SHITTY EUROPEAN NORMATIVE!!! |
| 00:02:28 | Insider | for sure |
| 00:03:07 | Insider | you have to go on the standard firmware download page |
| 00:03:19 | Insider | then you have to select 'Nord America' |
| 00:03:28 | Insider | from the combobox on top-right of the screen |
| 00:04:06 | Insider | that is, you will redirect to the american firmware download page |
| 00:04:11 | jlbiasini_ | pamaury: g#569 |
| 00:04:14 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #569 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/569 : touchpad: Disable touchpad on softlock. by Jean-Louis Biasini (changes/69/569/20) |
| 00:04:17 | Insider | this one: http://support.creative.com/Products/ProductDetails.aspx?catID=213&CatName=MP3+Players&subCatID=231&subCatName=MIDI+Keyboards&prodID=20866&prodName=ZEN+X-Fi3&bTopTwenty=1&VARSET=prodfaq:PRODFAQ_20866,VARSET=CategoryID:213 |
| 00:04:26 | jlbiasini_ | is corrected now |
| 00:04:48 | pamaury | Insider: ah indeed, pretty easy after all, thanks |
| 00:04:57 | Insider | the firmware.sb is slight different is size |
| 00:04:58 | Borg^Queen | I'm going to restore the ipod from an image backup I made. Now I'm assuming 1: I should them mount and copy .rockbox to the second partition 2 unmount and install the firmware from cli as root |
| 00:05:00 | Insider | few bytes |
| 00:05:04 | Borg^Queen | Is all this correct? |
| 00:05:06 | Insider | in * |
| 00:06:18 | Insider | ok, it's 0:06 here, I'm going to sleep now. |
| 00:06:29 | Insider | Thanks very much pamaury! |
| 00:06:42 | Insider | pamaury - Creative 1 : 0 :) |
| 00:08:03 | Insider | believe me the volume level 31 in the european version corresponds to the level 23 of the American one! |
| 00:08:28 | Insider | or maybe lower enough |
| 00:08:40 | Insider | they are crazy! |
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| 00:09:45 | Borg^Queen | ok the ipod has sdb1 and 2 I should copy .rockbox to p2? |
| 00:12:14 | Insider | good night! |
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| 00:12:20 | Borg^Queen | gn |
| 00:12:22 | gevaerts | well, the first partition doesn't have a normal filesystem on it |
| 00:12:46 | Borg^Queen | ok just checking. I want to see where I went wrong. |
| 00:13:26 | Borg^Queen | this is why I always make backups |
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| 00:35:45 | jlbiasini_ | pamaury: I'm going to bed we'll see tomorrow for those patch. Also I'm wondering about the menu and option... |
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| 00:59:19 | Borg^Queen | ok I've restored the ipod, installed rockbox and then the loader, all it well. However I can't change to the font I want. |
| 00:59:41 | Borg^Queen | I can select it but it doesn't load. I can the fonts from rockbox. |
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| 01:00:22 | amayer | Borg^Queen: are you using the default theme? |
| 01:00:45 | Borg^Queen | yes, I haven't changed it |
| 01:01:58 | Borg^Queen | ok well, it just erased everything again and now I can't copy anything. |
| 01:03:35 | amayer | ...what did you erase? |
| 01:05:30 | Borg^Queen | I didn't erase anything |
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| 01:06:27 | Borg^Queen | rb crashed |
| 01:06:48 | amayer | if rockbox crashed and you cannot get it to respond hold menu + select to reboot it |
| 01:07:03 | Borg^Queen | I did |
| 01:07:12 | Borg^Queen | while it loads, I can mount it |
| 01:07:32 | amayer | so did you get it to mount or not |
| 01:08:16 | Borg^Queen | It was umounted, I was looking at it, put it down to type, picked it up it was off, turned it back on, connected it doesn't show up in fstab. |
| 01:13:58 | Borg^Queen | the bloody cable is broken! |
| 01:14:16 | Borg^Queen | Looks like the work of my niece's bloody cat. |
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| 01:15:56 | Borg^Queen | ok installing themes |
| 01:16:59 | Borg^Queen | is there just a zip of all 51 themes? |
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| 02:23:25 | Borg^Queen | hi people now I have this *panic& stkov jq |
| 02:33:02 | amayer | is that on your nano 2g? |
| 02:33:09 | Borg^Queen | yes |
| 02:33:26 | amayer | did you try the menu + select to reboot? |
| 02:33:34 | Borg^Queen | yes |
| 02:33:41 | amayer | it sounds like you messed up while installing something if your having this much trouble |
| 02:33:59 | Borg^Queen | I don't think so |
| 02:34:27 | amayer | did you use emcore or does the 2g have a rockbox boot loader? |
| 02:34:39 | amayer | i only have a iClassic |
| 02:35:02 | Borg^Queen | rockbox boot |
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| 02:36:48 | Borg^Queen | doesn't show in fstab |
| 02:37:21 | Borg^Queen | when I disconnected it, it seems fine, when I plug it in, it shows connect |
| 02:37:27 | Borg^Queen | but no entry in fstab |
| 02:38:20 | Borg^Queen | when I disconnect it now it continues to show the usb icon, I have reboot it |
| 02:38:46 | amayer | can you run "dmesg | tail" and see what that says |
| 02:38:54 | amayer | (after plugging in your 2g) |
| 02:39:23 | Borg^Queen | can't set config #1, error -71 |
| 02:39:50 | amayer | well now we just need someone that knows something about USB |
| 02:40:24 | Borg^Queen | researching now.... |
| 02:41:22 | amayer | what distro are you using? |
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| 02:43:28 | amayer | Borg^Queen: do you have another machine to try connecting it to? |
| 02:43:34 | Borg^Queen | this happens in Fed, ark, pclos, and a few others. |
| 02:43:39 | Borg^Queen | yes, 17 |
| 02:43:46 | Borg^Queen | I have a bank of test computers |
| 02:43:55 | amayer | do you have another ipod connector cable to test with? |
| 02:44:06 | amayer | just want to rule out a hardware issue here |
| 02:44:46 | Borg^Queen | yes, I have a box full of dead mac stuff with new cables. Firs thing the "geniuses " tell people to do. |
| 02:45:04 | Borg^Queen | I also have another working ipod n g2, untouched, the cable works |
| 02:45:40 | Borg^Queen | I'm going to restore the ipod and start again. |
| 02:46:16 | amayer | i was going to propose that idea but it seems kinda overkill. it is probably the best thing at this point tho |
| 02:46:32 | amayer | Borg^Queen: you are restoring the ipod on a windows machine correct? |
| 02:46:59 | Borg^Queen | no, from an image file I created before I started playing with it |
| 02:47:01 | amayer | it needs to be FAT file system and mac puts AFP or what ever on it |
| 02:47:13 | Borg^Queen | I know |
| 02:47:18 | amayer | just making sure |
| 02:47:27 | Borg^Queen | I know, thanks. |
| 02:47:46 | Borg^Queen | Don't let my few words, put you off. I'm just direct. |
| 02:48:16 | amayer | *shrugs* didnt phaze me at all |
| 02:49:12 | Borg^Queen | It does some people. Just wanted to be sure. |
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| 03:04:38 | Borg^Queen | ok got it to connect and now I'm restoring. Let me go through how I installed. |
| 03:05:40 | Borg^Queen | connect the ipod, mounted the vfat partition, copied .rockbox into it. Umounted, went to root cli and ran ipodpatcher |
| 03:05:50 | Borg^Queen | it said it was successful. |
| 03:05:56 | Borg^Queen | What did I miss? |
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| 03:08:34 | Borg^Queen | anyone? |
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| 03:20:24 | Borg^Queen | according to the instructions off the site, the above is correct. Can anyone confirm that? |
| 03:24:36 | Borg^Queen | very well then gentlemen, the published review will reflect this. |
| 03:24:48 | Borg^Queen | And remember it was your choice to be silent. |
| 03:24:50 | Borg^Queen | gn |
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| 03:49:24 | [Saint] | Gah! |
| 03:49:29 | [Saint] | Well...that's shit. |
| 03:50:03 | [Saint] | Apparently we'll get a crap review from someone because a daily was suggested for N2G and apparently no one remembered to mention that USB is broken. |
| 03:50:06 | [Saint] | ...fun times. |
| 03:56:30 | * | [Saint] really feels sorry for Borg^Queen |
| 03:57:20 | [Saint] | Hours and hours of pissing around to get nowhere. No one catching that makes that looks really bad. |
| 03:58:14 | [Saint] | amayer: for future reference, N2G USB is absolutely fucked in git head |
| 03:58:31 | [Saint] | The user did absolutely nothing wrong, everything went as it should. |
| 03:58:55 | amayer | didnt we fix it last week |
| 03:59:02 | [Saint] | Fuck no. |
| 03:59:14 | amayer | well thats no good... |
| 03:59:29 | [Saint] | Its been broken for ~2 years |
| 03:59:30 | amayer | *guilty of not reading all the irc logs* |
| 03:59:43 | amayer | so what version should she have used? |
| 03:59:52 | amayer | (incase she decides to come back) |
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| 04:00:09 | [Saint] | one of the releases from the archived release page. |
| 04:00:53 | [Saint] | that's going to "just work". If a release exists for it, its obviously before it was cut back to unstable. |
| 04:01:23 | [Saint] | Note: note blaming you for anything |
| 04:01:35 | [Saint] | (If you don't own the target, its not going to be obvious to you) |
| 04:03:57 | [Saint] | ...and the user was more than slightly dickish about how it ended, but I suspect that was based on the frustration of compiling for hours to get nowhere. |
| 04:04:41 | amayer | it did seem kinda rude after we tried to help her |
| 04:05:05 | amayer | i left my computer and when i got back there was that note and she was gone |
| 04:05:39 | [Saint] | I suspect the user was used to more populated IRC channels that don't almost completely fall off the map when Europe goes to bed. |
| 04:05:49 | [Saint] | Bad timimg. |
| 04:07:32 | [Saint] | Alternatively they may not have been used to IRC at all and were initially encouraged by the almost immediate response to the initial query. |
| 04:07:54 | [Saint] | Pleasing users is hard. It just made me a little sad that this particular case was so preventable. |
| 04:11:23 | [Saint] | Hmmmm. |
| 04:11:39 | * | [Saint] sees a lack of ArchLinuxSimpleGuideToCompiling |
| 04:15:19 | [Saint] | I guess it would pretty much just consist of "install core dev metapackage" |
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| 08:05:57 | copper | [Saint_]: what review was Borg^Queen talking about? |
| 08:06:02 | copper | Head-Fi review? |
| 08:06:42 | copper | she was already here before I got to bed last nigh |
| 08:07:21 | copper | night* |
| 08:08:28 | copper | she also said "gn" at 3:24am which seems to indicate that she's european too |
| 08:08:55 | copper | and her hostmask says ark linux, not arch linux |
| 08:09:18 | copper | "Ark Linux is a Linux distribution designed especially for desktop use, primarily for people without prior Linux experience. Its main goal is ease of use, and the inclusion of many tools end users will need." |
| 08:09:25 | copper | totally different from Arch Linux |
| 08:10:44 | copper | "Status: Discontinued" |
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| 09:01:14 | copper | also, I don't know what to do about the %?if() +1 bug |
| 09:01:25 | copper | if it gets fixed, it will break every single theme |
| 09:23:52 | copper | er, I don't even understand what it does |
| 09:24:15 | copper | %?if(%pv, >, 0)<higher than 0|lower or equal to zero> |
| 09:24:22 | copper | ^^ that works as expected |
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| 09:54:34 | copper | I edited http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWPS with notes about %?if() and %ss() |
| 09:59:28 | copper | I'm surprised there was no changelog field |
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| 11:04:23 | JdGordon | copper: what %if +1 bug? |
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| 11:15:37 | copper | JdGordon: if you display %mp, it will show "0" when playback is stopped |
| 11:15:55 | copper | however, to test for "playback stopped", you need to do: %?if(%mp, =, 1) |
| 11:16:30 | copper | also, %?if(%ss(0, 2, %St(font), number), =, 15) returns true when the font is set to "14-Nimbus" |
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| 11:19:12 | copper | (and false with 15-Adobe-Helvetica) |
| 11:24:13 | copper | if the bug were to be fixed, I guess a solution to theme breakage would be to require new / updated themes to put a specific piece of code in the wps/sbs/fms that "acknowleges" the new behavior |
| 11:24:39 | copper | so that you wouldn't have to require every single theme to be updated |
| 11:24:55 | JdGordon | he %mp one sounds like a real bug |
| 11:25:14 | copper | both are |
| 11:25:23 | JdGordon | err... actually |
| 11:25:42 | JdGordon | i dunno... send an email or open a bug and bug me next week |
| 11:25:50 | JdGordon | I'll have lots of time and hopefully motivation |
| 11:25:55 | JdGordon | i.e unemploeyed! :) |
| 11:26:04 | copper | uh… congrats? :P |
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| 11:29:55 | JdGordon | got about 2 weeks between jobs |
| 11:35:58 | copper | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12891 |
| 11:36:15 | copper | g#12891 |
| 11:36:23 | copper | no worky? |
| 11:36:37 | copper | er |
| 11:36:40 | copper | fs#12891 |
| 11:36:42 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12891 %?if() evaluates enumeration indexes and arbitrary numbers to (number + 1) (bugs, unconfirmed) |
| 11:36:45 | copper | there you go |
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| 12:19:53 | wodz | Please take a look at g#576. |
| 12:19:56 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #576 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/576 : lua: Switch memory allocator from dl to tlsf by Marcin Bukat (changes/76/576/1) |
| 12:20:42 | wodz | As we compile tlsf as a lib I think it is wise to use it instead of dozen of other memory allocators in our codebase. |
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| 14:36:57 | wodz | I wanted to try FS #11922 as it is reported to stress allocator heavily but downloaded file seems to be corrupted (a bunch of 0x0a 0x0d at beginning and also file seems to be truncated). Can someone test if the problem is on my end or FS is corrupted? |
| 14:36:58 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11922 New Lua game: pixel-painter (patches, unconfirmed) |
| 14:41:42 | pamaury | wodz: which file ? |
| 14:42:25 | wodz | pixel-painter.lua |
| 14:43:19 | pamaury | latest version contains a lot of new lines at the beginning indeed and seems truncated |
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| 14:43:52 | wodz | the very first looks the same for me |
| 14:44:03 | wodz | *very first version |
| 14:44:13 | copper | yay, updated all 12 themes |
| 14:45:16 | wodz | hmm, since on FS there is no single complain about broken file I guess FS db got mad |
| 14:47:46 | pamaury | wodz: maybe ask if Zagor has a backup ? it's not very good if FS got corrupted |
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| 14:49:18 | wodz | pamaury: good idea |
| 14:49:22 | wodz | Zagor: ping |
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| 14:51:50 | SovonHalder | copper: do I need to upgrade ? |
| 14:54:38 | SovonHalder | I'm asking this cause the screenshots have the Codec/Bitrate at last line. If I upgrade, I will still have the 'Next Song' when I switch status bar to top/bottom, right ? |
| 14:54:48 | copper | yes |
| 14:54:53 | copper | do upgrade |
| 14:55:33 | copper | unpack (choose "overwrite"), set a theme, turn off, turn on, set "status bar" to "top" or "bottom" |
| 14:56:30 | SovonHalder | doing it...thank you |
| 14:57:20 | copper | which reminds me |
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| 14:57:45 | copper | I need to file a bug report for the backdrop that doesn't load after selecting a new theme |
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| 15:02:31 | copper | FS #12892 |
| 15:02:31 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12892 backdrop doesn't load when selecting a new theme that was just copied via USB (bugs, unconfirmed) |
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| 15:07:02 | copper | amayer: also, maybe you could filter out downloads from web crawlers / bots from the download count |
| 15:08:36 | Zagor | wodz: I doubt the db is so surgically corrupted as to just remove one bug |
| 15:08:46 | Zagor | when did it dissappear? |
| 15:11:42 | wodz | Zagor: I am not saying that only this particular fs entry got corrupted. I just stepped at this issue so I am reporting. |
| 15:13:44 | Zagor | ok. I'm not sure what I can do. restoring a db backup obviously means erasing all changes since then. I need more details before making such a drastic move. |
| 15:15:01 | wodz | Zagor: Acknowledged. I doubt more details are easy to get. |
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| 15:21:49 | wodz | Zagor: Acknowledged. I doubt more details are easy to get. |
| 15:24:50 | amayer | copper: great idea |
| 15:24:57 | amayer | *puts it in notes* |
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| 15:26:32 | copper | amayer: I've already identified these User Agent bits that identify known bots: 'Baiduspider|bingbot|ezooms.bot|Googlebot|YandexBot|WBSearchBot|Slurp|msnbot' |
| 15:26:56 | amayer | copper: thanks |
| 15:26:57 | copper | it's not an exhaustive list though |
| 15:27:10 | copper | but it filters out a good portion of the bots |
| 15:27:37 | copper | I didn't look, but I'm sure there's a better list somewhere online |
| 15:28:14 | pamaury | wodz: I have forget your rk27xx hwstub patch, i'll have a look as soon as I'm done with this task, let's hope i'll have some time |
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| 15:30:04 | wodz | pamaury: thanks |
| 15:30:24 | jlbiasini | pamaury: ping |
| 15:31:05 | pamaury | by the way, I have vastly improved the tools for register maps and analysis, I now have a Qt GUI which can explore your register map and you can load data from a data dump and write analyser to display useful information. I plan to integrate hwstub in it so you can do it live and even tweaks parameters on the fly |
| 15:31:08 | pamaury | jlbiasini: pong |
| 15:31:42 | jlbiasini | pamaury: I've made alot of clean up on g#569 |
| 15:31:44 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #569 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/569 : touchpad: Disable touchpad on softlock. by Jean-Louis Biasini (changes/69/569/25) |
| 15:32:16 | jlbiasini | But I still have a little problem... |
| 15:32:27 | copper | jlbiasini: I'm looking forward to see that merged |
| 15:32:31 | copper | seeing* |
| 15:33:10 | jlbiasini | I've taken out the touchdev part ad we didn't have to turn the hold_Button target anymore |
| 15:34:17 | pamaury | I don't understand your last sentence |
| 15:34:18 | jlbiasini | so now I have touchdev_enable called in action.c and define at driver level. It work fine, but it breaks the simulator compilation |
| 15:34:57 | jlbiasini | we had those firmware/touchdev.c/h files |
| 15:35:43 | jlbiasini | I took those out of the patch as they where mainly there to control button_hold target |
| 15:36:17 | pamaury | there is a slight indent issue in action.c it seems, on the unlock part. Yes that was expected, maybe you should protect that part with SIMULATOR: #if defined(HAVE_TOUCHPAD) && !defined(SIMULATOR) |
| 15:36:47 | pamaury | otherwise the patch is fine |
| 15:36:57 | jlbiasini | ok, thanks that's what I was looking for |
| 15:37:06 | pamaury | did you ask someone for the settings part ? I'm not too familiar with those |
| 15:37:20 | jlbiasini | and I nearly done with the touscreen one |
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| 15:37:50 | pamaury | I'll test on the xfi2 (touchscreen) as soon as I fix the memory instability issue, hopefulyl today with my patcher |
| 15:39:45 | jlbiasini | it works, else the idea is so: if we don't have softlock we don't do anything, if we have we add a touchpad menu to group all the touchpad setting: sensitivity, disable on lock, later lock on touch on softlok. |
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| 15:40:39 | jlbiasini | on the touchscreen patch it's the same exept that the setting get grouped in the already existing touscreen menu |
| 15:40:56 | jlbiasini | pamaury: great if you can test it |
| 15:41:53 | jlbiasini | copper: me too I've been struggling with finding a way to implement this cleanly for weeks now! |
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| 15:42:57 | jlbiasini | and just after the lock only touchpad on lock will follow |
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| 15:45:32 | jlbiasini | pamaury: another thing I wanted to tell you is that I find usb much more stable on my new/old only sd fuze+ than it was on the sd+intern this also before you commited all those changes yesterday. So I thought perhaps the instability I was experiencing is related to interference between intern and microsd? |
| 15:50:47 | pamaury | what kind of instability ? |
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| 16:00:15 | pamaury | I know that sounds like self satisfaction but my new generic firmware patcher is definitely awesome |
| 16:03:04 | pamaury | interesting, the zenxfi3 is driving its lcd at 30MHz, I thought that it was 24MHz |
| 16:09:56 | jlbiasini | pamaury: usb connection was dying from time to time. Some time even with partition corruption |
| 16:10:57 | jlbiasini | sorry I never gave much attention because there was still the possibility to use the OF |
| 16:10:58 | pamaury | ah yes, this one, I don't know why it happen |
| 16:12:04 | jlbiasini | well now It didn't happen even once... |
| 16:12:36 | jlbiasini | And I didn't a lot of transfer for testing and refilling my 64gb card |
| 16:13:27 | pamaury | interesting |
| 16:14:15 | pamaury | i'll explore this issue with a ramdisk: if it still happen it means usb storage is at fault, otherwise it's the storage layer |
| 16:23:55 | * | pamaury definitely needs to write an updater tool for the Zen X-Fi2, the creative tool sucks |
| 16:25:41 | jlbiasini | pamaury: for touchscreen the patch is g#577 |
| 16:25:43 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #577 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/577 : touchscreen: softlock touch settings implementation by Jean-Louis Biasini (changes/77/577/2) |
| 16:29:06 | pamaury | haha, more awesomeness ! Zen X-Fi2 OF hacked :-[ |
| 16:51:27 | jlbiasini | pamaury: I just notice somthing weird but pehraps it's normal: If I copy to sd (bootloader mode 1 file it goes around 4 MB/s if I copy 2 files simultanly the total of their transfer rate is above 5MB/s |
| 16:53:48 | jlbiasini | i'm in bootloader usb |
| 16:54:33 | pamaury | are you sure it's the effectivate write rate ? linux does a lot of caching |
| 16:57:27 | jlbiasini | that's the problem |
| 16:57:53 | jlbiasini | I tried with 3 simultaneous and I got an extra 0,5 MB/s |
| 16:58:26 | jlbiasini | is there a way to know? |
| 16:58:53 | copper | dd if=file of=/media/fuze/file bs=$(( 8192 * 1024 )) iflag=direct oflag=direct |
| 16:59:06 | pamaury | not sure if you can disable caching, the best way to know raw speed is dd, you can't beat that in theory |
| 16:59:39 | copper | echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches |
| 16:59:49 | copper | but dd is better |
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| 17:02:32 | jlbiasini | can I dd a directory? |
| 17:03:13 | jlbiasini | oh wait I'm going to test with videos |
| 17:03:53 | jlbiasini | copper: what are bs=$(( 8192 * 1024 )) parameters |
| 17:04:07 | copper | blocksize |
| 17:04:11 | copper | 8MiB |
| 17:04:22 | Zagor | why not just write bs=8M ? |
| 17:04:27 | copper | I never know whether the M suffix means 1000 or 1024 |
| 17:04:54 | copper | M=1024 |
| 17:04:55 | Zagor | M = 1024 MB = 1000 |
| 17:04:57 | copper | MB=1000 |
| 17:04:59 | copper | blah |
| 17:05:02 | Zagor | :) |
| 17:05:03 | copper | see what I mean |
| 17:05:06 | jlbiasini | My question would be: are you sure, I don't want to kill my 64 mb parttion |
| 17:05:14 | copper | sure about what? |
| 17:05:27 | copper | that command just copies a file |
| 17:05:29 | jlbiasini | about the block size parameter to give |
| 17:05:39 | copper | yes it's safe |
| 17:05:41 | Torne | the blocksize doesn't make any difference to what it copies or where to |
| 17:05:47 | jlbiasini | ok |
| 17:05:55 | Torne | it won't copy more than the source contains |
| 17:05:59 | copper | larger block sizes are faster |
| 17:06:06 | copper | and what Torne said |
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| 17:06:33 | jlbiasini | is there a time parameter in dd or should I add it at the beginning of the command |
| 17:06:38 | jlbiasini | ? |
| 17:07:02 | copper | you don't need that |
| 17:07:09 | copper | dd will output the speed when it's done |
| 17:07:15 | jlbiasini | great! |
| 17:07:37 | copper | in megabytes per second (1000 not 1024, all transfer speeds are indicated in powers of 10, not 2) |
| 17:07:55 | copper | (don't ask me why) |
| 17:09:18 | copper | 48564892 bytes (49 MB) copied, 0.112397 s, 432 MB/s |
| 17:09:22 | copper | ^^ like that |
| 17:09:40 | copper | (yes that's from an SSD) |
| 17:10:03 | Torne | because powers of ten are correct, unfortunately |
| 17:10:12 | copper | ? |
| 17:10:18 | copper | both are "correct" |
| 17:10:26 | copper | they're just different units |
| 17:10:28 | Torne | transmission speeds have always been in powers of ten, not two |
| 17:10:38 | copper | that's what I said (or meant to say) |
| 17:10:39 | Torne | even before "mebibyte" and friends were invented as terms |
| 17:11:37 | Torne | before people invented the binary prefix terms, it was entirely correct to say that transferring 1MB of data at 1MB/s took slightly more than one second :) |
| 17:11:56 | Torne | ..that ridiculousness being why people invented those ugly terms in the first place |
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| 17:12:14 | copper | it seems like the MiB debate will never end |
| 17:12:39 | jlbiasini | pamaury: I still have the volume problem on the f+: still sound even mute |
| 17:13:05 | Torne | i maintain that as far as disk capacity goes, you should only use units that are a multiple of 512 |
| 17:13:34 | Torne | which means you can use decimal gigabytes and above, but not decimal megabytes or kilobytes ;) |
| 17:13:46 | Torne | since it's impossible for any modern disk technology to give you 1,000,000 bytes of data |
| 17:14:17 | copper | it's 4096 with large HDDs now |
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| 17:14:38 | Torne | The addressing is still in 512 byte units |
| 17:14:44 | Torne | the implementation is irrelevant |
| 17:14:44 | pamaury | jlbiasini: I don't understand what you mean |
| 17:15:02 | copper | Torne: with sectors of 4096 B? |
| 17:15:07 | Torne | yes |
| 17:15:09 | jlbiasini | when volume is minimum I still here sound |
| 17:15:36 | jlbiasini | * hear! :/ |
| 17:15:41 | Torne | you still request data based on its 512-byte-sector address |
| 17:15:44 | copper | I thought there was no mute function |
| 17:16:06 | jlbiasini | mute = minimum |
| 17:16:54 | copper | minimum isn't mute |
| 17:17:16 | copper | Torne: "Hard drives configured with 4096-byte physical sectors with 512-byte firmware are referred to as Advanced Format 512e, or 512 emulation drives." |
| 17:17:32 | copper | I don't think that applies to "Advanced Format 4K Native" |
| 17:18:09 | pamaury | the driver doesn't have a mute function and it's unclear whether minimum means mute |
| 17:18:27 | pamaury | for playback that's a non issue, since you have such a large volume range |
| 17:18:50 | pamaury | there is a problem with radio because we don't use the radio volume and thus have a much smaller volume range |
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| 17:19:55 | jlbiasini | I means that the minimal limit is too high. Even with the lowest volume possible I still have sounnd |
| 17:20:30 | pamaury | with usual playback ? |
| 17:21:37 | pamaury | i'll see what I can do |
| 17:22:48 | jlbiasini | yes, setting resetted, and the minimal is rather loud actually (I have a akg 451 it's a loud headphone set) |
| 17:22:50 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #451 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/451 : lcd-common: Remove unused function lcd_puts_style(). by Thomas Martitz (changes/51/451/2) |
| 17:22:59 | jlbiasini | lol |
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| 17:23:23 | jlbiasini | bluebrother: I think that bot is a little too enthousiastic... |
| 17:24:10 | copper | 111 dB/mW |
| 17:24:15 | copper | that's loud indeed |
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| 17:25:07 | copper | sigh |
| 17:25:24 | pamaury | ok, understood, i'll fix that ;) |
| 17:25:37 | Torne | copper: it's not clear that 4k-native drives are addressed any different; the ATA spec is vague and talks about long logical sectors being 520 bytes or similar (for spare-word support) |
| 17:25:40 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #520 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/520 : Plugins: text_editor PLA integration by Jean-Louis Biasini (changes/20/520/3) |
| 17:25:41 | jlbiasini | copper: dd if=file of=/media/fuze/file bs=$(( 8192 * 1024 )) iflag=direct oflag=direct doesn't work it complains about the file I gave him as not being a valid argument |
| 17:25:57 | copper | what was your command? |
| 17:26:14 | copper | no |
| 17:26:28 | copper | replace if=file with if=<your_actual_filename> |
| 17:26:33 | jlbiasini | dd if=../Sailing\ To\ Philadelphia/01.What\ It\ Is.flac of=/media/jean-louis/1622-E34B/ bs=$(( 8192 * 1024 )) iflag=direct oflag=direct |
| 17:26:35 | copper | don't pass the file as an argument |
| 17:27:27 | copper | what's the error message |
| 17:27:36 | copper | oh |
| 17:27:39 | copper | of= is wrong |
| 17:27:47 | copper | you need to specify an output filename |
| 17:27:55 | copper | of=/media/jean-louis/1622-E34B/blah |
| 17:28:29 | jlbiasini | impossible to open <file> : invalid argument (freely translated from rench |
| 17:28:34 | jlbiasini | *french) |
| 17:28:39 | copper | paste it in french please |
| 17:28:46 | copper | (I'm french and so is pamaury) |
| 17:28:55 | jlbiasini | dd: impossible d'ouvrir « ../Sailing To Philadelphia/01.What It Is.flac »: Argument invalide |
| 17:28:58 | jlbiasini | youhou! |
| 17:29:23 | copper | try ls -lah ../Sailing\ To\ Philadelphia/01.What\ It\ Is.flac |
| 17:30:17 | jlbiasini | -rw-r−−r−− 1 jean-louis jean-louis 132M nov. 15 2011 ../Sailing To Philadelphia/01.What It Is.flac |
| 17:30:28 | copper | meh |
| 17:30:32 | copper | locale fuckery maybe? |
| 17:30:51 | copper | try putting LC_ALL='en_US-UTF-8' in front of your dd command |
| 17:31:24 | Torne | copper: hm, yes, in fact the number of words transferred doesn't appear to be limited at all :) |
| 17:31:30 | Torne | except by the available space in IDENTIFY |
| 17:31:47 | Torne | you can probably claim to have anywhere from 1 to 4billion words per sector ;) |
| 17:31:53 | Torne | which is pretty great. |
| 17:31:56 | copper | or LC_ALL=en_US-UTF8 or LC_ALL=en_US.utf8 |
| 17:31:58 | Torne | i want a disk with an odd number. :) |
| 17:32:08 | copper | Torne: you're sick |
| 17:32:09 | copper | ;) |
| 17:32:41 | jlbiasini | copper: still no luck |
| 17:32:47 | Torne | but in any case, requiring muiltiples of 4096 would also rule out decimal gigabytes, but decimal *terabytes* are still fine. ;P |
| 17:33:00 | copper | jlbiasini: just copy the damn file in your local directory and rename it to "foo" |
| 17:33:02 | Torne | 244140625 4096-byte sectors in a decimal terabyte. ;) |
| 17:33:14 | copper | uh |
| 17:33:15 | copper | wait |
| 17:33:22 | copper | jlbiasini: on what kind of mount is that file? |
| 17:33:26 | copper | ramdisk? tmpfs? |
| 17:33:49 | jlbiasini | dawn! a crypted one!!! |
| 17:33:54 | jlbiasini | does it matter? |
| 17:33:56 | copper | no |
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| 17:34:09 | copper | drop the iflag=direct and try again |
| 17:34:13 | copper | keep the oflag=direct |
| 17:34:18 | jlbiasini | it's in a ecryptfs directory |
| 17:34:28 | copper | I don't know that one |
| 17:34:45 | copper | but I suspect iflag=direct is the problem |
| 17:34:55 | copper | dd just sucks at giving meaningful error messages |
| 17:34:56 | jlbiasini | it shouldn't be a problem as long as it is mount it is supposed to be transparent |
| 17:34:57 | Torne | Yeah, you can't read the input directly if it's not on a real block device |
| 17:35:08 | Torne | Right, but "direct" is requesting to bypass the filesystem :) |
| 17:35:25 | Torne | it's saying "get the FS to tell me, up front, the block numbers to read, then i'll read them myself" |
| 17:35:35 | Torne | and that's impossible if you're using a FUSE encryption fs |
| 17:35:41 | Torne | since the raw blocks don't exist in plaintext form |
| 17:35:51 | copper | Torne: works on my luks mount |
| 17:36:03 | Torne | copper: yes, because luks is using dm-crypt, which exposes a real block device in the kernel |
| 17:36:08 | Torne | ecryptfs is a userspace filesystem |
| 17:36:09 | copper | I see |
| 17:36:33 | jlbiasini | ok I will copy it on a ssd partition |
| 17:36:36 | Torne | just drop iflag=direct |
| 17:36:41 | Torne | no, just don't use iflag=direct |
| 17:36:42 | jlbiasini | that isn't encrypted |
| 17:36:44 | Torne | it won't make any difference |
| 17:36:48 | jlbiasini | ok |
| 17:36:57 | copper | unless the crypt mount is slower than a Fuze+ :P |
| 17:37:40 | copper | this is why my copy script first tests whether iflag=direct is accepted |
| 17:37:41 | jlbiasini | the idea was to go on an unencrypted to have it work in the first place... |
| 17:38:44 | jlbiasini | and do I have to plug my player first? :D |
| 17:39:12 | copper | That would… help. |
| 17:39:30 | jlbiasini | nope even without iflag=direct still doesn't work |
| 17:39:34 | copper | wth |
| 17:40:01 | copper | how hard can it be |
| 17:40:32 | * | copper strongly dislikes localized systems |
| 17:40:46 | Torne | locales shouldn't ahve anything to do with it other than the messages it prints. |
| 17:40:49 | copper | change '.' to ',' and BAM, shit breaks |
| 17:41:00 | Torne | and LANG=C LC_ALL=C is the "universal" fix there |
| 17:41:06 | copper | right |
| 17:41:09 | Torne | to just nuke locales completely for an invocation :) |
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| 17:42:03 | copper | did you mount the Fuze+? |
| 17:42:08 | jlbiasini | ok if I copy the file to / |
| 17:42:22 | copper | with user rights? |
| 17:42:32 | copper | mount -t user |
| 17:42:34 | copper | er |
| 17:42:37 | copper | mount - o user |
| 17:42:40 | copper | mount -o user |
| 17:42:56 | jlbiasini | and dd it from there (ie from my unencrypted ssd) it works and bug later on: dd: impossible d'ouvrir « /media/jean-louis/1622-E34B/ »: est un dossier |
| 17:43:12 | copper | yes I told you to set an output filename |
| 17:43:17 | copper | of=/media/jean-louis/1622-E34B/file |
| 17:43:31 | copper | if = input file |
| 17:43:34 | copper | of = output file |
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| 17:43:46 | copper | not "output directory" |
| 17:44:03 | Torne | dd does not behave at all like cp, it will not guess what you mean |
| 17:44:03 | copper | dd is a raw tool |
| 17:44:04 | jlbiasini | it works!! |
| 17:44:10 | copper | yay |
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| 17:44:45 | jlbiasini | so it was really that encryption stuff |
| 17:44:58 | copper | it should have worked without iflag=direct |
| 17:45:19 | copper | unless I'm missing something really fucked up here |
| 17:45:21 | jlbiasini | it didn't! I even remove oflag=direct |
| 17:45:26 | copper | IFLAG |
| 17:45:28 | copper | not OFLAG |
| 17:45:37 | Torne | did you have the right filenames/etc then, though? |
| 17:45:58 | Torne | without iflag=direct it should just be doing open(), read(), close(), which should work regardless of FUSE/etc |
| 17:46:00 | copper | 15:34:10 UTC <copper> drop the iflag=direct and try again |
| 17:46:01 | copper | 15:34:15 UTC <copper> keep the oflag=direct |
| 17:46:28 | copper | iflag = input flag |
| 17:46:32 | copper | oflag = output flag |
| 17:46:32 | jlbiasini | ok 4,0MB/s now let's try 2 files together |
| 17:46:35 | copper | if that wasn't obvious |
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| 17:47:00 | jlbiasini | I tryed first without iflag |
| 17:47:41 | jlbiasini | Then it didn't work and I thought hey what's the heck let's nuke all those parameter that I don't understand anyway! |
| 17:47:56 | copper | what |
| 17:48:18 | copper | what's the point of giving you a command line for a specific purpose (measuring throughput), if you're just going it ignore it all |
| 17:48:19 | jlbiasini | :D |
| 17:48:45 | copper | what command exactly returned "4,0MB/s"? |
| 17:49:04 | jlbiasini | dd if=/09.Brothers\ In\ Arms.flac of=/media/jean-louis/1622-E34B/foo bs=$(( 8192 * 1024 )) iflag=direct oflag=direct |
| 17:49:11 | copper | ok |
| 17:49:48 | jlbiasini | I don't have an intern memory anymore so maybe those are not the values you would get on a normal device |
| 17:50:07 | jlbiasini | my sd has both a system and a normal partition |
| 17:50:35 | copper | what sd card model is that? |
| 17:50:56 | jlbiasini | transcend 64mb class 10 fat32 formated |
| 17:51:45 | copper | pamaury: did you make changes with regards to the Fuze+ sd card reader speeds? |
| 17:52:14 | copper | 4MB/s sounds like the usual speeds (half of what the card is capable of) |
| 17:52:28 | jlbiasini | yesterday a bunch of commit came in the tree |
| 17:54:24 | jlbiasini | now I copy 2 files simultaneously |
| 17:54:30 | pamaury | yes I did |
| 17:54:41 | pamaury | but I do not expect this to reach top speed yet |
| 17:54:47 | pamaury | (with usb) |
| 17:55:04 | pamaury | jlbiasini: are you using bootloader usb mode or normal usb ? |
| 17:55:11 | jlbiasini | bootloader |
| 17:55:31 | pamaury | can you check with normal usb and a very recent build ? (like HEAD) |
| 17:56:12 | jlbiasini | pamaury I'm head + sd boot patch that you help me to wrote to have my system on the sd |
| 17:56:34 | pamaury | ok, then can you retry with normal usb build to see if the speed is the same or higher |
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| 17:57:18 | jlbiasini | well I will first try with normal usb (as to oppose to bl) |
| 17:58:00 | jlbiasini | simultaneous copy gave me 2,5 + 2,2 MB/s |
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| 18:27:28 | jlbiasini | pamaury: from rb copy of one file is 6.1MB/s (as to oppose to 4.0 in bl |
| 18:28:14 | jlbiasini | I didn't recompiled the bl since yesterday |
| 18:32:30 | pamaury | good, I expected that value, I guess on host the card can read at ~8MB/s |
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| 18:44:06 | jlbiasini | pamaury: problem with simulator solved, patches updated |
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| 18:51:33 | pamaury | ok, i'm trying the zen xfi2 with new memory patches, see if it's stable |
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| 19:47:46 | pamaury | this is disappointing, I am using the exact same parameters as the OF and it doesn't work |
| 19:48:28 | copper | pamaury: that's probably because you weren't referred to by someone who's got credentials |
| 19:50:07 | copper | (I won't blame anyone if that joke is lost on them, it's not a very good joke) |
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| 20:15:26 | pamaury | I have checked everything: pll, clock gates, emi pins, drive, pullups, memory rail, all emi parameters, cpu and hbus are at the same frequency, *what* else could possibly be wrong ? |
| 20:18:12 | pamaury | ah, vddio is 0.2V lower |
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| 20:47:29 | pamaury | haha, vddio made the deal |
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| 22:16:23 | jlbiasini | pamaury: definitively sd work surprisly good without intern. I'm copying huge amount of file, not a single error... |
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| 22:18:36 | wowaname | welcome back |
| 22:19:20 | wowaname | i made a theme; i am finetuning it now and will have screenshots up when i am able |
| 22:19:55 | wowaname | funman» i'll stop annoying you today <3 |
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| 22:24:38 | wowaname | the screendump tool in rockbox is kind of annoying since it screencaps every change on the screen until you turn it off |
| 22:24:58 | wowaname | i'm gonna download the ui simulator but still it would be nice if there was a different method of screencapping |
| 22:25:27 | * | wodz asks for comments about g#576 |
| 22:25:28 | wowaname | e.g. for the iPod Classic, switch the hold key once and back |
| 22:27:05 | gevaerts | wowaname: that sounds like a bug |
| 22:27:07 | gevaerts | It |
| 22:27:11 | wowaname | it shoudlnt do that? |
| 22:27:14 | wowaname | hm |
| 22:27:25 | wowaname | i mean after i plug it in |
| 22:27:34 | gevaerts | If you enable screendumps, it's supposed to take a single screendump every time you plug in USB |
| 22:27:34 | wowaname | of course it doesnt screencap before it's plugged |
| 22:27:37 | wowaname | oh |
| 22:27:41 | copper | Uh? Just compile a sim and press 0 |
| 22:27:45 | wowaname | yeah i'm gonna |
| 22:27:54 | wowaname | soon as i update my bootloader |
| 22:28:02 | copper | screenshots look like 16 bit dithered or something |
| 22:28:04 | wowaname | usb bug in current |
| 22:28:23 | gevaerts | If you're seeing something else, a bug report on flyspray would me most welcome |
| 22:28:40 | wowaname | k |
| 22:29:07 | wowaname | i'll test it again to make sure |
| 22:29:55 | gevaerts | Hmm, I think I've seen something like you described at some point. Back then, it was caused by a stack overflow in the USB stack IIRC |
| 22:30:08 | gevaerts | This is on the classic? |
| 22:30:15 | wowaname | yeah i'm getting one i think every secon d |
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| 22:30:27 | wowaname | gevaerts» i bet if i update the bootloader it will be fixed |
| 22:30:30 | wowaname | if it's a usb problem |
| 22:30:41 | gevaerts | Sounds *very* unlikely to me, but feel free to try |
| 22:30:53 | gevaerts | TheSeven: any ideas about this? |
| 22:30:54 | wowaname | i already have usb trouble |
| 22:32:45 | gevaerts | Screendump code isn't related to the USB driver. It's just triggered by seeing power on the USB port |
| 22:32:49 | wowaname | o |
| 22:32:51 | wowaname | ok |
| 22:32:56 | wowaname | must be a bug then |
| 22:33:05 | wowaname | well we have already established that |
| 22:33:14 | wowaname | :p |
| 22:34:54 | wodz | gevaerts: dump is triggered by seeing power on USB or on usb detect? Buggy driver may cause flood of usb resets which in turn may cause many usb detect events |
| 22:35:07 | wowaname | true |
| 22:35:11 | gevaerts | wodz: A USB reset shouldn't cut power |
| 22:35:16 | wowaname | i'll tell you all if it works when i update |
| 22:35:19 | gevaerts | Also, the driver shouldn't be running |
| 22:35:21 | wowaname | :p |
| 22:35:39 | gevaerts | We're *not* enumerating in this case |
| 22:36:03 | wodz | gevaerts: Strange then |
| 22:36:04 | wowaname | gevaerts» the ipod always treats connections the same even if plugged into a wall |
| 22:36:21 | wodz | wowaname: thats known problem |
| 22:36:22 | wowaname | that has been noted |
| 22:36:23 | wowaname | yea |
| 22:36:25 | wowaname | i know |
| 22:37:39 | gevaerts | Yes, someone needs to finally finish this conversion to USB_DETECT_BY_REQUEST on the classic |
| 22:37:49 | wowaname | lol |
| 22:37:55 | wowaname | that would be great |
| 22:38:00 | gevaerts | What's so funny about that? |
| 22:38:10 | wowaname | iunno |
| 22:38:25 | wowaname | i lol a lot |
| 22:38:44 | wowaname | the hells |
| 22:38:54 | wowaname | the rockbox utility will not allow me to install a bootloader |
| 22:39:21 | gevaerts | On a classic? Yes, that's true. Emcore is the bootloader there... |
| 22:39:30 | wowaname | o |
| 22:39:32 | wowaname | derp |
| 22:39:46 | wowaname | ok so i have to stfw some more |
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| 23:41:13 | wowaname | ugh i cant find how to update emcore |
| 23:41:14 | wowaname | still searching |
| 23:41:44 | TheSeven | wowaname: run UMSboot from emcore's tools menu or through DFU, and drop a new installer image in |
| 23:41:52 | wowaname | o |
| 23:41:54 | * | TheSeven reads backlog |
| 23:42:03 | wowaname | TheSeven» wait a sec |
| 23:42:09 | wowaname | that will update bootloader? |
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| 23:42:18 | wowaname | ok |
| 23:42:23 | wowaname | >_< |
| 23:43:31 | TheSeven | gevaerts: I have no explanation why it would screendump multiple times. a stack overflow *should* crash it |
| 23:43:56 | wowaname | Courtesy of wowaname's iPod |
| 23:43:58 | TheSeven | if it indeed triggers on USB resets that might explain things |
| 23:44:16 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:44:58 | TheSeven | anyway, updating emcore definitely won't change that behavior. aren't you running the latest emcore release anyway? |
| 23:45:07 | TheSeven | I mean, you've just installed it a few weeks ago, right= |
| 23:46:50 | fs-bluebot | Build Server message: New build round started. Revision b63b330, 217 builds, 21 clients. |
| 23:47:41 | wowaname | TheSeven» no i am not |
| 23:47:49 | wowaname | i did install it a week or 2 ago |
| 23:47:58 | wowaname | hold a sec |
| 23:48:01 | TheSeven | the latest emcore release is from january 2012 |
| 23:48:09 | TheSeven | so you definitely have that already |
| 23:48:12 | wowaname | Aug 14 21:01:35 TheSeven» the new one is in here, if you want to try if it works better/faster: https://mega.co.nz/#!NAoChaZA!LvrFIyi-cyTiP40U6Du7ITJpvUEITxhH5VCO2sIyKn4 |
| 23:48:21 | wowaname | is that the new on e you are talkina bout |
| 23:48:24 | TheSeven | well that's umsboot, not emcore |
| 23:48:27 | wowaname | o |
| 23:48:36 | wowaname | well yes i have the newest emcore release |
| 23:49:50 | wowaname | >no ubi file found |
| 23:50:05 | pamaury | we have three spam entries on gerrit |
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| 23:50:27 | pamaury | how can we ban the poster ? |
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| 23:50:58 | wowaname | how do i transfer the bootstrap |
| 23:51:01 | wowaname | that's what i meant |
| 23:51:09 | wowaname | how do i transfer that to the ipod |
| 23:53:30 | fs-bluebot | Build Server message: Build round completed after 400 seconds. |
| 23:53:33 | gevaerts | pamaury: isn't that in the sandbox? |
| 23:53:44 | TheSeven | that's just a tool to bootstrap installation, which isn't permanently stored on the ipod |
| 23:53:54 | wowaname | TheSeven» i know |
| 23:53:58 | TheSeven | it's just a DFU-bootable version of UMSboot |
| 23:54:15 | wowaname | then what the hell affects usb transfer to computer |
| 23:54:28 | TheSeven | definitely nothing from that area |
| 23:54:33 | TheSeven | most likely a rockbox bug |
| 23:54:39 | pamaury | are right |
| 23:54:47 | wowaname | because i cant access the ipod via usb using the updated rockbox image |
| 23:54:57 | TheSeven | that's a known bug |
| 23:54:59 | wowaname | the fallback works fine |
| 23:55:00 | wowaname | oh ok |
| 23:55:04 | pamaury | gevaerts: what do you think of g#569 ? For me it's ok |
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| 23:55:07 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #569 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/569 : touchpad: Disable touchpad on softlock. by Jean-Louis Biasini (changes/69/569/26) |
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| 23:55:26 | pamaury | I don't know if the way the settings are done is okay, I'm not much of an expert in this area. |
| 23:55:27 | wowaname | well imma compile this ui shit |
| 23:55:37 | TheSeven | wowaname: it only happens on some PCs, which is why I asked you to play around with the new UMSboot to check if that works better than the old one (because the old one suffered from the same bug) |
| 23:55:44 | pamaury | Also there is the question of the default value: should it be on or off by default ? |
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| 23:55:56 | wowaname | TheSeven» yes and i am not using the new one |
| 23:56:11 | wowaname | so that's why i was trying to figure out how to change over |
| 23:56:19 | wowaname | would i have to redo the whole install process |
| 23:56:22 | TheSeven | doing that won't have any effect on rockbox, other than that this information is valuable for locating the problem with rockbox and fixing it |
| 23:56:30 | wowaname | oh |
| 23:56:46 | TheSeven | so we just need the feedback whether the new umsboot behaves other than the old one |
| 23:56:56 | TheSeven | to check that, just boot the new umsboot via DFU |
| 23:56:58 | wowaname | yes and i was willing to try it |
| 23:56:58 | gevaerts | pamaury: whitespace at the end of one line! ;) |
| 23:57:15 | wowaname | >boot the new umsboot via dfu |
| 23:57:20 | wowaname | and how would i do this |
| 23:57:22 | pamaury | gevaerts: can you put a comment please on gerrit please ? |
| 23:57:31 | TheSeven | just like you did it during installation, just with the new bootstrapper exe file |
| 23:57:40 | pamaury | and appart from this whitespace ? ;) |
| 23:57:41 | wowaname | so i do have to repeat the install |
| 23:57:49 | wowaname | ok |
| 23:58:05 | TheSeven | you don't have to repeat the full install, you just do the first step of it |
| 23:58:11 | TheSeven | which doesn't modify anything on the ipod |
| 23:58:16 | wowaname | k |
| 23:58:34 | TheSeven | if you want to test it more extensively, you can also drop in the installer .ubi file, which is the second step |
| 23:58:43 | webguest97 | Hi, I unplugged my Sansa Clip+ while it was transferring files and now it tries to boot but just goes to gibberish static screen. |
| 23:58:45 | TheSeven | but that installer will realize that everything is up to date already and just do nothing in that case |
| 23:58:51 | wowaname | ya |
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