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| 00:18:17 | lonoxmont | compile issue in debian, scripts want to use /usr/opt, only root can write there normally |
| 00:18:48 | lonoxmont | is possible to change the directory by editing the script, but its clunky and you have to manually add whatever you picked to your $PATH |
| 00:19:05 | gevaerts | lonoxmont: I'm assuming you mean /usr/local? |
| 00:19:22 | lonoxmont | yeah that one |
| 00:19:35 | gevaerts | And no, you do not have to edit the script. You can just override those environment variables |
| 00:19:53 | lonoxmont | im too dumb to make that work, so i edit the script (｡ ‿°) |
| 00:19:57 | gevaerts | e.g. RBDEV_PREFIX=/tmp/idontneedthisforlong tools/rockboxdev.sh |
| 00:20:47 | gevaerts | And for the other thing, there is *no* place (or there shouldn't be, report bugs to your distro if there is!) in your default PATH that doesn't require root |
| 00:21:55 | gevaerts | So just pick a place you like in your home directory, use RBDEV_PREFIX to tell the scripts about it, and set PATH in your shell startup files |
| 00:21:58 | lonoxmont | just wondering if theres a reason why you dont just have all the compiler stuff spit out into a user controlled directory |
| 00:22:25 | pamaury | damn it, it seems that Creative didn't think right from the beginning that storage could be >4GB so their values are stuck to strange values when it is the case, I don't know how to properly handle that now ! |
| 00:23:03 | gevaerts | lonoxmont: *which* user controlled directory? /usr/local/ is well-defined and always exists |
| 00:23:30 | gevaerts | Also, there's quite a lot of precedent for software installing to /usr/local/ |
| 00:23:33 | lonoxmont | gevaerts: i would just have it be somewhere in wherever the initial install script is run from |
| 00:23:50 | gevaerts | ugh, no! |
| 00:23:56 | * | gevaerts wouldn't like that *at all*! |
| 00:24:18 | gevaerts | That's *entirely* against what I'd expect |
| 00:24:36 | lonoxmont | ah, then i guess the other projects ive dealt with have done it wrong |
| 00:24:52 | lonoxmont | sice you guys are the first project ive found that doesnt just pick one dir and do everything there |
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| 00:25:22 | gevaerts | You can't just run toolchains from anywhere. They need to know where they are, which implies an "install" step |
| 00:25:34 | gevaerts | This isn't a random helper binary. This is the *compiler* |
| 00:25:59 | gevaerts | You'll note that rockbox *itself* isn't handled that way |
| 00:26:08 | lonoxmont | and a compiler cannot ever be run from any dir not owned by root? |
| 00:26:14 | lonoxmont | im just curious |
| 00:26:23 | gevaerts | Again, YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE ROOT AT ANY STAGE! |
| 00:26:28 | chrisjj | Anyone else find flyspray Lost password is failing? I get "Notice: Undefined property: Swift_Transport_StreamBuffer::$_sequence in /home/apache_chroot/sites/rockbox.org/flyspray/includes/external/swift-mailer/classes/Swift/Transport/StreamBuffer.php on line 236" |
| 00:29:02 | gevaerts | chrisjj: send an email to Zagor. (bjorn at haxx dot se). There are some issues with our flyspray installation and he's working on them, so he's the right person for this |
| 00:29:17 | chrisjj | OK, will do - thanks G. |
| 00:29:40 | lonoxmont | well ill have to set up a dev environment anyhow as the box i was using blew up |
| 00:29:52 | lonoxmont | hopefully the changes are in whatever i pull down |
| 00:31:21 | lonoxmont | i just want my expensive thing to talk to my other expensive thing ( ≖‿≖) |
| 00:32:37 | gevaerts | If you just want the latest IAP code, get a current development build |
| 00:34:11 | lonoxmont | eh, if changes need making to help with my oddball situation then its easier to do with a local dev environment, i would think |
| 00:34:17 | lonoxmont | then again >lonox |
| 00:34:19 | lonoxmont | >thinking |
| 00:34:37 | gevaerts | Only if you manage to set it up and use it properly |
| 00:35:10 | lonoxmont | i know im a moron |
| 00:35:18 | lonoxmont | but the only way to get less dumb |
| 00:35:21 | lonoxmont | is to do things |
| 00:35:29 | lebellium | pamaury: ok the E380 user manual is a copy paste of the E370 manual, except some minor translation fixes (at least in French) and AAC-LC support for E380. So I would say it's exactly the same player except a minor software improvement (AAC support). |
| 00:36:39 | saratoga | we also have a virtualbox image with the dev tools setup if you don't want to set them up locally |
| 00:36:51 | saratoga | I should really update it to a more current ubuntu version though |
| 00:36:58 | pamaury | lebellium: thanks for checking |
| 00:37:36 | gevaerts | saratoga: the problem isn't people not wanting to set up development tools, the problem is people asking questions about how to do it and then not reading the answers |
| 00:37:43 | lonoxmont | desktop or server? i know ubuntu desktop seems to be going more and more stupid with each new release |
| 00:38:07 | saratoga | its the plain the desktop version |
| 00:38:16 | saratoga | 400MB download, but it comes with all the tools and a GUI |
| 00:38:29 | saratoga | the annoying thing is stripping it down that small |
| 00:38:40 | saratoga | i don't know much abotu ubtuntu so it takes me forever |
| 00:40:26 | lonoxmont | saratoga: might be worth looking into another os, maybe debian or something |
| 00:40:34 | saratoga | yeah probably |
| 00:43:09 | saratoga | so i'm the first person to update teh change log in 5 months |
| 00:43:14 | saratoga | i'm sure we've had changes since then |
| 00:44:10 | gevaerts | Oh, thanks. I'd forgotten about that! |
| 00:44:23 | pamaury | I knew it! Damn you Creative! |
| 00:46:35 | lonoxmont | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/LinuxSimpleGuideToCompiling needs updating, what i see in the installer isnt matching the website |
| 00:47:47 | pamaury | So their file system correctly records the disk size (16GB) but their stupid partition table was obviously written for 32-bit stuff and thus reports a size of 16GB mod 4GiB which is 3GB |
| 00:48:04 | pamaury | brilliant, absolutelt brilliant |
| 00:50:19 | saratoga | lonoxmont: what needs updating? |
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| 00:54:25 | saratoga | we have a lot of new ports that aren't even mentioned on the front page or change long |
| 00:54:27 | saratoga | log |
| 00:54:59 | pamaury | yeah, I'm lazy |
| 00:56:48 | saratoga | added some of the hifiman ports |
| 00:56:53 | lebellium | Yeah, it's quite impossible to find any NWZ wiki page if it doesn't appear in the latest pages :D |
| 00:57:04 | saratoga | are any of these new devices installable from rbutil? |
| 00:58:50 | pamaury | no |
| 00:59:16 | pamaury | we need to extract the firmware from them, Sony doesn't provide any firmware upgrade |
| 00:59:46 | pamaury | and i'm not sure it's a good idea to distribute the firmware I extracted |
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| 01:00:02 | saratoga | what about the rockchip ones? |
| 01:00:02 | lebellium | saratoga: I'm not quite sure why you mention the new targets in the major changes since v3.14 most likely won't support them? |
| 01:00:17 | saratoga | we traditionally mentioned when we got sound on a new device |
| 01:00:25 | saratoga | we just cut those out of the release change logs |
| 01:00:32 | lebellium | ah |
| 01:00:37 | saratoga | its major changes for the entire project |
| 01:00:41 | saratoga | not just releases |
| 01:00:44 | lebellium | ok :) |
| 01:01:05 | saratoga | its a little weird because we were doing it back before we were doing regular releases again with 3.xx |
| 01:01:32 | saratoga | back then we didn't even have stable targets, versioned releases, or anything :) |
| 01:02:24 | saratoga | i think its important that we keep the major changes page semi up to date so that people have a way of knowing whats going on |
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| 01:02:42 | saratoga | not just users, but also our huge pool of mostly but not always idle contributors too |
| 01:03:21 | lonoxmont | saratoga: the part where you select what arch to build for, at least thats the obvious thing |
| 01:04:03 | saratoga | because a was removed? |
| 01:04:09 | pamaury | saratoga: you're right, mentionning the new ports as major changes could be a good idea |
| 01:04:26 | lonoxmont | a was removed, another one was added but its scrolled away under lines of compiler messages |
| 01:04:38 | saratoga | yeah we do a really bad job of letting the community know what we are up to |
| 01:04:52 | saratoga | which makes us as a project a little inaccessible |
| 01:06:10 | pamaury | could someone modify the front page to add Creative ZEN, ZEN X-Fi, ZEN Mozaic, Sony NWZ-E370 and E380 as unstable ? |
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| 01:06:22 | pamaury | or maybe unusable to be sure |
| 01:06:32 | wowaname | yay i'm using the onion |
| 01:06:37 | saratoga | email one of the sweeds |
| 01:06:42 | saratoga | swedes |
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| 01:07:03 | saratoga | it helps to commit it to git yourself first too |
| 01:07:21 | lebellium | pamaury: I don't know who is Andrew Ryabinin but he added (SVG?) pics for HiFi E.T. Maybe he can help us for Creative and Samsung YP-R1? |
| 01:07:22 | pamaury | the front page is in www/ right ? |
| 01:07:37 | pamaury | lebellium: that would be great ! |
| 01:08:13 | saratoga | yeah |
| 01:08:16 | lebellium | it's really a shame the Creative and Sony targets don't show up in the build table |
| 01:08:19 | saratoga | Andrew is the Hifi porter |
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| 01:08:42 | saratoga | i fixed the wiki |
| 01:08:47 | saratoga | for compiling that is |
| 01:09:01 | saratoga | i also made it more clear that most users probably only want ARM |
| 01:09:02 | lebellium | what's his nickname? is he here? |
| 01:09:15 | pamaury | lebellium: which build table ? |
| 01:09:28 | saratoga | http://build.rockbox.org/ |
| 01:09:30 | saratoga | here |
| 01:09:31 | lebellium | pamaury: sorry I meant http://build.rockbox.org/. |
| 01:09:32 | lebellium | :) |
| 01:09:50 | pamaury | hum, they do in http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi |
| 01:10:11 | pamaury | I don't know how this page is generated |
| 01:10:18 | saratoga | i think they need to be marked as unstable or something like that |
| 01:10:25 | saratoga | the table doesn't show some builds |
| 01:11:29 | pamaury | ok I'm going to add some targets to the front page first |
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| 01:12:22 | saratoga | Andrew is "mortalis" btw |
| 01:12:39 | saratoga | who runs the gerrit tracker? Torne? |
| 01:14:45 | lebellium | saratoga: ok thanks. I'm not sure those are SVG pics though. I guess he only added small pics for the build table but I don't find any SVG pic for the user manual |
| 01:15:21 | pamaury | I made some (pretty ugly) bmp for the simulators, they can be used as a fallback |
| 01:15:26 | saratoga | there are probably SVG ones somewhere |
| 01:15:29 | pamaury | or maybe takes some pictures |
| 01:15:32 | saratoga | or at least vector right? |
| 01:16:32 | saratoga | also we should probably update our gerrit |
| 01:16:33 | lebellium | pamaury: well that would look weird next to all the other SVG pics |
| 01:16:43 | saratoga | i see a bunch of "Urgent Security Patch" headings for much newer versions than we run |
| 01:17:08 | saratoga | plus the UI in the version we have is awful, hopefully the newer versions are better |
| 01:18:10 | gevaerts | saratoga: Torne and Zagor |
| 01:18:49 | gevaerts | IIUC Torne knows about a security issue, but he says it doesn't apply to our setup because we don't have repositories that aren't publicly visible |
| 01:18:50 | saratoga | at very least we should cahnge it to only show committs to rockbox |
| 01:18:58 | saratoga | and not the sandbox |
| 01:19:01 | gevaerts | Well |
| 01:19:11 | gevaerts | Not showing the sandbox, sure |
| 01:19:40 | gevaerts | But I do want www, themes and translate there |
| 01:19:50 | saratoga | thats reasonable |
| 01:20:24 | saratoga | the current build of gerrit is still pretty annoying though, like how theres no easy way to just see the whole file (at least that I can find) when looking at a patch |
| 01:20:34 | saratoga | kind of hard to review a change if you can only see 5 lines above and below it |
| 01:30:00 | pamaury | Do I need to add the new targets somewhere and mark them as unusable ? I seem to recall with a file for this |
| 01:30:39 | pamaury | gevaerts: can you review g#659 |
| 01:30:42 | pamaury | please ? |
| 01:31:05 | pamaury | and maybe g#660 if you have a built-in html parser |
| 01:31:32 | lebellium | tools/builds.pm? |
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| 01:33:11 | lebellium | so yes maybe status must be 2 or 3 to get them showing up in the build table |
| 01:33:57 | saratoga | FWIW, its traditional that we mark a target as "unstable" or higher before adding it to the build table |
| 01:34:09 | lonoxmont | alright, compiled and zipped, now to put it on the ipod |
| 01:34:13 | saratoga | so that means at very least a wiki page and a binary of the bootloader available somewhere |
| 01:35:08 | saratoga | pamaury: can you fix one of the wiki links when you update the front page? |
| 01:35:24 | saratoga | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TargetStatus#New_Platforms_Currently_Under_De should be changed to http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TargetStatus#New_Platforms_Currently_Under_Development |
| 01:35:26 | pamaury | Yes, which one ? |
| 01:35:30 | pamaury | ok |
| 01:35:32 | saratoga | i think the wiki software update broke that |
| 01:36:23 | lebellium | pamaury: don't forget the Sony players http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TargetStatus :) |
| 01:36:49 | pamaury | Don't worry, just give time to this poor internet connection I have here |
| 01:37:01 | pamaury | saratoga: g#661 looks ok ? |
| 01:37:40 | saratoga | yeah looks good |
| 01:39:32 | pamaury | saratoga: are you editing TargetStatus ? |
| 01:39:38 | saratoga | yeah |
| 01:39:41 | saratoga | give me 30 seconds |
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| 01:40:46 | saratoga | done |
| 01:40:58 | saratoga | i changed some of the text because we do technically support unstable devices |
| 01:43:15 | pamaury | I added the Sony NWZ to TargetStatus |
| 01:43:22 | pamaury | I'll add a few targets to tools/builds.pm too |
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| 01:46:43 | saratoga | FWIW, I'd be ok with doing a 3.14 sometime around christmas, since i'll actually have some free time then |
| 01:46:52 | pamaury | sounds good |
| 01:47:12 | pamaury | in the mean time I think I can add support for the ZEN X-Fi2 and NWZ-E360/E370 |
| 01:49:37 | saratoga | great |
| 01:49:53 | saratoga | does anyone remember if thers a simple way to get the frequency response of an IIR filter from the poles and zeros? |
| 01:49:58 | saratoga | been too long since i did this |
| 01:51:40 | pamaury | unfortunately not, I once knew how to compute the frequency response of a filter, but never did any signal processing course so I don't know what a IIR filter is ^^ |
| 01:52:18 | saratoga | a filter with poles :) |
| 01:52:22 | pamaury | saratoga: can you have a look at g#660 ? It's being late, I might make mistakes |
| 01:52:30 | saratoga | yeah i think theres some simple algorithm but its been like 10 years |
| 01:52:55 | saratoga | looks good |
| 01:54:50 | pamaury | why do you want to do that btw ? |
| 01:55:12 | lonoxmont | well it boots into rockboox, good sign eh? |
| 01:55:24 | lonoxmont | gonna go see if it works with the car now |
| 01:56:04 | saratoga | was thinking it would be neat to show what the EQ looks like in rockbox |
| 01:56:57 | saratoga | http://cnx.org/content/m10548/latest/ |
| 01:57:00 | saratoga | here we go |
| 01:57:45 | saratoga | ugh how have i forgotten so much about complex analysis |
| 01:58:54 | lonoxmont | as expected, did not work |
| 01:59:40 | lonoxmont | i guess i will just have to use a 3.5 line from the hadphone jack to the line-in on the car |
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| 02:00:36 | saratoga | yeah ok since we know the poles and zeros in the EQ code, we could probably just step through 128 frequencies, and compute the gain at each one using the algorithm in that link |
| 02:00:37 | lonoxmont | would have been nice to have track control from the steering wheel but i guess thats the price of a firmware that respects muh freedums |
| 02:00:56 | saratoga | although this would involve me actually learning how to write a plugin which I've successfully avoided doing for about 8 years now |
| 02:01:14 | saratoga | or i guess even how to do GUI stuff in the core |
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| 02:02:53 | saratoga | I guess the most simple thing to do first would be a simple plugin that read in the EQ settings and then plotted the frequency response |
| 02:02:54 | lonoxmont | gevaerts: i can try grabbing the latest devbuild if you (probably rightly) dont trust my dev environment, see if that gets the ipod hookup in my car working |
| 02:02:58 | saratoga | bringing that into the core might be a bit harder |
| 02:03:18 | saratoga | if you managed to compile it, you most likely have something no different than the latest dev build |
| 02:03:31 | saratoga | dev builds are actually just compiled on users machines via our build system |
| 02:04:24 | lonoxmont | dang |
| 02:04:51 | lonoxmont | so i guess unless one of you happens into some money and buys an identical car to mine, it wont get support :( |
| 02:05:21 | lonoxmont | if i knew how to get the info you need to try and make it work id do it, fwiw |
| 02:06:00 | saratoga | i guess probably by putting a lot of debug statements in the code and figuring out where the two devices stop talking |
| 02:06:04 | saratoga | never looked at IAP tho |
| 02:06:18 | * | [Saint] enjoys how other people always have to do things |
| 02:06:24 | lonoxmont | they talk enough to charge at least |
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| 02:06:51 | [Saint] | Well, that's not related to IAP at all so its not surprising. |
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| 02:07:50 | pamaury | [Saint]: I always have something to do! It's just a matter of choosing which one! |
| 02:08:31 | lonoxmont | [Saint]: so who should i talk to about this? or is it just another "needs of the many" situation? |
| 02:09:17 | [Saint] | Basically, yourself. |
| 02:09:26 | [Saint] | You are in the ideal position to do something about this. |
| 02:09:48 | [Saint] | You have the hardware, you want it done. |
| 02:11:43 | lonoxmont | but im an idiot, i wouldnt know where to start other than attempt to learn c |
| 02:11:59 | [Saint] | Well, that's a pretty good start. ;) |
| 02:11:59 | lonoxmont | and i guess google around and see if theres some kind of debugging unit to buy |
| 02:13:05 | lonoxmont | or i guess the quick fix of just buy a 3.5mm cable :/ |
| 02:13:55 | pamaury | arf, people always have crazy bugs like "WPS crashes when I press select" and it works flawlessly for me |
| 02:14:57 | [Saint] | pamaury: unless its cabbie, I usually ignore such claims. |
| 02:15:11 | [Saint] | themes seem to be able to introduce a lot of variables they shouldn't be able to. |
| 02:17:04 | pamaury | yeah, themes seem to be quite a culprit but it's hard to solve them without any knowledge of the theme engine |
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| 02:18:11 | pamaury | who can update the front page ? I guess there is Zagor ? |
| 02:21:51 | lonoxmont | so lets take this from another angle, is there any line out dock cables that are known to work with rockbox? |
| 02:23:10 | saratoga | yeah, email badger or zagor and ask them to update the front page |
| 02:23:20 | saratoga | any line out cable should work, they're just passive devices |
| 02:23:52 | lonoxmont | and rockbox feeds teh audio to the right pins for it to work? |
| 02:24:01 | saratoga | yeah i believe so |
| 02:24:03 | saratoga | which ipod? |
| 02:24:12 | lonoxmont | ipod video, so 5.5g |
| 02:24:20 | saratoga | do we have code anywhere in rockbox for plotting something? i think generating a frequency response would be easy, but I'm not sure how to draw that in rockbox without it looking awful |
| 02:24:28 | saratoga | oh yeah that should work, that port is ancient |
| 02:25:09 | saratoga | FWIW line out == headphone out at 0dB in rockbox |
| 02:25:34 | pamaury | maybe have a look at the plugins, I'm pretty sure with have a plugin plotting something, but it's probably done by hand |
| 02:27:10 | saratoga | looking through the manual nothing jumps out at me as having plots |
| 02:27:23 | saratoga | i guess it wouldn't be too hard, although it might be a bit ugly |
| 02:30:03 | pamaury | saratoga: fft plugin ? |
| 02:30:13 | pamaury | not exactly plotting |
| 02:31:33 | saratoga | yeah actually that might work |
| 02:31:45 | saratoga | not the style i was thinking of but probably just as good |
| 02:32:04 | pamaury | oscilloscope ? |
| 02:34:58 | lonoxmont | saratoga: i hear the headphone amplifier circuit on my ipod is ass though, and the line out cable bypasses it |
| 02:35:54 | saratoga | thats nonsense |
| 02:36:01 | [Saint] | pure nonsense. |
| 02:43:41 | [Saint] | I mean, its no iPod Classic - that's certain. But the output on some of these iPod deices is phenomenal. |
| 02:56:29 | lonoxmont | well i guess i can alway just buy one of each and a/b test it |
| 02:57:22 | lonoxmont | its like 3bux for a cable, im not too worried |
| 02:57:56 | lonoxmont | i know im too dumb and not enough time in the world to learn c, so this is my option i guess unless someone wants to debug it without physically having it |
| 02:58:02 | saratoga | only difference is that the headphone plug uses a more powerful buffer amp |
| 02:58:13 | saratoga | otherwise they're identical before that final stage |
| 02:58:19 | K1773R | lonoxmont: if you say your dump to yourself, you will never get smart... |
| 02:58:33 | K1773R | lonoxmont: especially if you refuse to change a thing ;) |
| 02:58:41 | lonoxmont | know your limits and work within them |
| 02:58:44 | lonoxmont | do one thing and do it well |
| 02:59:16 | K1773R | exactly... thats not smart :S |
| 02:59:20 | lonoxmont | im smart enough to do my tech support job, and for what i dont know how to do i know enough people to connect them together to get whatever it is done |
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| 03:00:33 | saratoga | learning c is a lot of work for an 8 year old mp3 player unless you want to know anyway |
| 03:01:27 | lonoxmont | not just learning c, i also would have to grok the entire project as a whole to make sure whatever changes i ended up making didnt brick everything else |
| 03:02:15 | lonoxmont | since learning c as a first programming language is like being handed an 18-wheeler with no brakes and full throttle only and told to take grandma to the store |
| 03:02:30 | saratoga | i learned c first |
| 03:02:33 | saratoga | most engineers do |
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| 04:04:08 | * | [Saint] really needs to go through and fix up the manual |
| 04:04:14 | [Saint] | It really is in a sorry state. |
| 04:05:04 | [Saint] | Can people please start PMing me or addressing me in the logs here with manual errors they find? |
| 04:09:42 | * | [Saint] wonders how the Playlist Catalogue even got committed. |
| 04:09:52 | [Saint] | ...seriously. |
| 04:15:55 | [Saint] | Ok. I realize its supposed to be this way anyway, but, can we take a harsh stance on "Documentation or GTFO" from now on? |
| 04:20:40 | * | JdGordon knows the answer to that question!!! |
| 04:20:41 | JdGordon | :D |
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| 05:26:01 | JJ_ | hello all |
| 05:27:14 | JJ_ | so.... none of the buttons work on my ipod.... is there a way to setup rockbox to automatically start playing... |
| 05:27:49 | JJ_ | since I have no way to browse or select anything I would need it to start playing soon as it boots up |
| 05:28:55 | [Saint] | This functionality doesn't exist, no. |
| 05:29:28 | JJ_ | there's no config file I can edit to just start playing immediately when booted |
| 05:29:29 | JJ_ | :/ |
| 05:29:40 | [Saint] | No. |
| 05:29:41 | JJ_ | darn... |
| 05:29:53 | JJ_ | was hoping there was something so I don't have to trash this thing :( |
| 05:30:11 | JdGordon | well almost |
| 05:30:18 | JdGordon | which ipod? |
| 05:30:20 | JJ_ | well thank you for your help and time |
| 05:30:23 | JJ_ | ipod video 30gb |
| 05:30:37 | JJ_ | 5th gen |
| 05:30:39 | JJ_ | oldie but goodie |
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| 05:31:05 | JJ_ | hm... i think some car stereos let you manage the ipod from the deck |
| 05:31:13 | JJ_ | it works fine that way |
| 05:31:14 | JdGordon | not so much with rockbox though |
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| 05:31:20 | JJ_ | my brother has a deck that you can control it from |
| 05:31:57 | JdGordon | if you set the start screen to "resume playback" then all you need is to make the playlist (or start it) from a remote and oyu're good |
| 05:32:16 | JJ_ | yeah maybe I can get a remote |
| 05:32:17 | JJ_ | of some sore |
| 05:32:18 | JJ_ | sort |
| 05:32:26 | [Saint] | if he had a remote he wouldn;t have any issues. :) |
| 05:32:32 | JJ_ | exactly |
| 05:32:32 | JJ_ | ! |
| 05:32:33 | JJ_ | :) |
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| 05:32:39 | JJ_ | I just need to get a remote then hehe |
| 05:33:17 | [Saint] | It'd cost about the same to get a new iPod. |
| 05:33:29 | JJ_ | nah some remotes are only like $10 |
| 05:33:40 | JJ_ | don't need anything fancy |
| 05:33:51 | JJ_ | no need to take it on an expensive date |
| 05:42:30 | JJ_ | it got quiet! |
| 05:44:36 | [Saint] | Nah...we're just talking about you in another channel. |
| 05:44:46 | JJ_ | figures |
| 05:44:53 | JJ_ | might as well |
| 05:45:27 | JJ_ | I know this sounds dumb but if I want to reinstall itunes I just need to uninstall rockbox and then click "remove the bootloader" |
| 05:45:32 | JJ_ | then itunes will find ipod again? |
| 05:45:58 | JJ_ | trying to test something |
| 05:46:15 | [Saint] | iTunes can still use the device as it is. |
| 05:46:21 | [Saint] | There's no need to remve ROckbox. |
| 05:46:32 | JJ_ | oh Itunes doesn't even show it exists |
| 05:46:44 | [Saint] | Are you booting the original firmware? |
| 05:47:04 | [Saint] | Oh - hahaha, guess you can't. |
| 05:47:13 | JJ_ | hm... |
| 05:47:40 | [Saint] | Yeah, you're pretty screwed without any form of user control. |
| 05:47:44 | JJ_ | dunno I just clicked to install booloader and rockbox |
| 05:47:52 | JJ_ | how to reinstall itunes now? |
| 05:47:59 | [Saint] | I don't even think a remote would register early enough to be able to dual-boot, though its possible. |
| 05:48:09 | JJ_ | hmm |
| 05:48:41 | [Saint] | "iTunes" wasn't ever removed. All you need to do is remove the bootloader and then reboot. |
| 05:48:50 | [Saint] | but, for you, even rebooting is a serious issue. |
| 05:48:51 | JJ_ | i'll try that |
| 05:49:12 | JJ_ | feel like i'm a rocket scientist here wow |
| 05:49:30 | JJ_ | except i'm not the good kind |
| 05:50:35 | JJ_ | rockbox utility doesn't have a reboot command... |
| 05:50:39 | JJ_ | lol gotta remove the battery |
| 05:51:04 | [Saint] | "[17:48:50] <[Saint]> but, for you, even rebooting is a serious issue." |
| 05:51:05 | [Saint] | :) |
| 05:51:41 | JJ_ | yes thank you for pointing that out :) |
| 05:54:47 | JJ_ | not my day...... ok good news and bad news... pulled too hard and ripped out the connector the battery plugs into... |
| 05:55:19 | [Saint] | Time for that new iPod... |
| 05:55:26 | JJ_ | good news got it back in place barely! |
| 05:55:27 | JJ_ | haha |
| 05:56:04 | [Saint] | I know its unlikely, but if you have a heat gun or a reflow station you'd really want to make sure there's a proper connection there. |
| 05:56:26 | * | [Saint] has both of the above, but is almost certainly ina different locale. |
| 05:56:29 | JJ_ | ya... |
| 05:56:40 | JJ_ | too much work |
| 05:56:53 | JJ_ | I have a few other ideas |
| 05:56:57 | JJ_ | but a remote is one |
| 05:57:10 | JJ_ | also I think there's a program you can control the ipod from your pc |
| 05:57:12 | JJ_ | working on that now |
| 05:57:26 | JJ_ | then maybe I can start it playing something... and hopefully it will continue.... |
| 05:58:20 | [Saint] | No...I don't think so. |
| 05:58:43 | [Saint] | I know you can control media plaback on the PC using Rockbox, but, that requires working buttons. |
| 05:59:00 | JJ_ | true... |
| 05:59:35 | [Saint] | The later model net connected i<device>es have remote applications. |
| 05:59:41 | [Saint] | But this isn't one of them. |
| 05:59:41 | JJ_ | yeah |
| 05:59:46 | JJ_ | and nope it isn't |
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| 06:05:49 | JJ_ | trying to see what remotes actually control all the buttons... or work for all the buttons |
| 06:06:10 | JJ_ | see one that works for all but the menu button... but I might need that one.... |
| 06:06:21 | JJ_ | tell me if im' too off topic |
| 06:06:25 | JJ_ | I will leave you guys alone :) |
| 06:09:36 | JJ_ | sweet my portable dvd player can control it :) |
| 06:15:57 | JJ_ | anyways thanks for all your help guys Mainly Saint and JdGordon |
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| 10:29:01 | mortalis | Zagor: Will you be able to upload bootloaders anytime soon? |
| 10:30:39 | Zagor | argh, yes. sorry again. :-( where are they? |
| 10:31:01 | mortalis | https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1nI4rgGNPbtQjFKeGxkUVQyR0U/edit?usp=sharing |
| 10:32:58 | lebellium | hey mortalis. Are the HiFi E.T pics actually SVG pics? And if yes, would you have time to help pamaury for some Creative players SVG pics? |
| 10:34:50 | Zagor | mortalis: done |
| 10:35:03 | Zagor | sorry for the delays |
| 10:35:14 | mortalis | lebellium: no, it's just png pics I made from photos. Sorry, I couldn't help you with that. |
| 10:35:23 | mortalis | Zagor: Thank you |
| 10:38:33 | mortalis | Do we have a flac codec expert? |
| 10:39:21 | lebellium | Ah so it's only a temporary workaround :( For the build table and the user manual you'll actually need SVG pics |
| 10:54:25 | lebellium | Zagor: could you update the front page? |
| 10:56:05 | lebellium | thanks :) |
| 10:56:06 | Zagor | lebellium: done |
| 10:57:31 | lebellium | now we see the huge pamaury work :) |
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| 12:52:42 | copper | very handy to quickly load different setups for different headphones or uses |
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| 14:38:37 | copper | Well, fuck. |
| 14:38:51 | copper | I managed to screw up my microsdxc card somehow. |
| 14:39:39 | copper | I can write to it with cp or dd, I can delete files, I can repartition it, all without errors, at normal writing speeds (15 MB/s). But the changes are never actually registered. |
| 14:40:00 | copper | When I remount the card, it's like I didn't do anything. All the original files are still there. |
| 14:40:25 | copper | nothing works, it's like it's read-only, except it's not, and all writing programs complete successfully. |
| 14:40:42 | copper | Does anyone have any idea what the problem is? |
| 14:41:16 | copper | I tried using the card via the Fuze+, via the sdhc adapter, with two different card readers, same thing |
| 14:41:38 | copper | can't actually write or delete anything |
| 14:49:25 | * | [Saint] giggles with glee at his combination of incredibly minimal config and solid state modified iPod Video |
| 14:50:39 | [Saint] | Using mp3 320, even though its not the mst efficient codec, with the config I'm using I squeeze out ever single bit of RAM I can and and up with a ~59MB playback uffer. |
| 14:51:01 | [Saint] | WHen it does eventually touch the disk to rebuffer it takes like a second. |
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| 14:52:36 | [Saint] | Huge bonus being enough space leftover to cram in a massive cordless phone battery. :) |
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| 15:05:11 | pixelma | btw. I figured my problem this playlist viewer viewport out - I misread the explanation a bit about not having anything else in the viewport. I thought the %Vp things fill the viewport *below* the first appearance of %Vp, somehow missing that it would take the whole viewport even if I put something above that. So the tag info of the currently playing track that I also had in there was drawn above the first %Vp lines. Long story short: putting |
| 15:05:12 | pixelma | everything into its own viewport helped |
| 15:06:14 | pixelma | "drawn above" = drawn on top, "covering" the rest |
| 15:07:15 | [Saint] | ah. |
| 15:08:14 | [Saint] | I haven't used the playlist viewer much, I probably wouldn't have caught that myself. |
| 15:12:01 | pixelma | my neither, I only had this idea with showing song title for skipping forward and back and the list appearance a bit similar to my foobar2000 setup - for my phone WPS (which really hasn't happened yet, just a bit of playing around) |
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| 18:44:15 | n1s | gevaerts: i had a thought about the volume limiter, it might be nice to have a special state for the volume hitting limit in the wps so you can easily see what's going on |
| 18:44:48 | n1s | also i have no idea how the wps stuff works so i dunno if that would be easy or hard to do :) |
| 18:45:00 | gevaerts | Well... |
| 18:45:15 | gevaerts | I *believe* technically you might already be able to do it |
| 18:45:38 | gevaerts | I mean, can't you read arbitrary settings these days, or am I dreaming that? |
| 18:46:16 | gevaerts | And if you can do that, it's merely a matter of checking if volume is limited and if so comparing two values |
| 18:46:19 | gevaerts | Hmmm |
| 18:46:20 | * | gevaerts isn't sure now! |
| 18:46:37 | n1s | ah that's neat |
| 18:46:42 | gevaerts | Ah, yes, you can |
| 18:46:52 | gevaerts | Possibly not easily enough for casual themers though |
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| 20:27:09 | xfiuser | pamaury (logs) - trying to build mkzenboot and getting the following errors http://pastebin.com/AiH5HwiD |
| 20:27:32 | xfiuser | how can I fix this or can you compile abootloader for me ? |
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| 20:29:11 | pamaury | xfiuser: wait a sec, I'm looing at your pastebin |
| 20:29:17 | xfiuser | thanks |
| 20:29:43 | pamaury | I cannot compile a bootloader right now, my internet connection at night is too bad to upload it here, I'll upload one tomorrow |
| 20:30:12 | pamaury | xfiuser: I see, you probably have a crazy compiler for which link order matters, give me a minute to find a fix |
| 20:33:02 | pamaury | hum weird, mkzenboot is using the standard makefile so there should be not problem :-/ |
| 20:33:07 | pamaury | xfiuser: what is your system / compiler ? |
| 20:33:31 | xfiuser | compiler not sure but ubuntu 12.10 i think |
| 20:34:05 | xfiuser | I was able to make a build for the xfi ok jsut making mkzenboot doesn't work. even the bootloader built. |
| 20:35:25 | pamaury | xfiuser: can you edit rbuitl/mkzenboot/Makefile ? Replace the line "EXTRADEPS :=" by "EXTRADEPS := -lz" |
| 20:37:17 | xfiuser | -lz: No such file or directory make: *** [mkzenboot] Error 1 |
| 20:39:30 | maysara | Hi, I have a Samsung YP-R0 player and I want to try to symlink microSD to internal memory |
| 20:39:41 | maysara | I'd be grateful if anyone put me on the right track |
| 20:40:48 | pamaury | xfiuser: ok I need 5 more min to look at this, doing this without trying won't work ^^ |
| 20:41:54 | xfiuser | cool. |
| 20:57:02 | pamaury | xfiuser: ok, let's try a very ugly fix at first, revert the change I suggested, and edit rbutil/libtools.make, at line 111 replace "$(addprefix $(OBJDIR),$(EXTRALIBOBJS))" by "$(addprefix $(OBJDIR),$(EXTRALIBOBJS)) -z" |
| 20:57:24 | pamaury | be sure to *not* replace the tabulations by spaces or you will break the makefile |
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| 21:05:27 | pamaury | maysara: why do you want to do that ? I don't think this is possible if the file system of the microsd is FAT |
| 21:06:01 | xfiuser | pamaury: no joy. |
| 21:06:01 | xfiuser | Compiler creates posix binaries LD mkzenboot cc: error: missing argument to ‘-z’ make: *** [mkzenboot] Error 1 |
| 21:06:18 | pamaury | sorry it's -lz and not -z, crazy typo |
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| 21:06:52 | xfiuser | seems to have built |
| 21:06:54 | xfiuser | thanks. |
| 21:07:13 | pamaury | ok so that's a build a order problem as I expected, thanks for the report, I need to fix that |
| 21:07:31 | pamaury | damn compilers, I thought in 2013 this would be problem solved |
| 21:08:02 | xfiuser | stephen@stephen-Aspire-6930G:~/Downloads/.rockbox/rockbox/rbutil/mkzenboot$ ./mkzenboot -i ZENXFI_PCFW_L22_1_04_08.exe -b bootloader-zenxfi.creative -o firmware.nk -t dualboot [INFO] MD5 sum of the file: C3 CD DF 84 68 D8 C8 98 2E 93 AA 99 86 C5 A1 52 [ERR] MD5 sum doesn't match any known file [ERR] Cannot determine model type Result: -4 |
| 21:08:25 | xfiuser | using the latest zenxfi download from creative.com |
| 21:08:53 | pamaury | ah that's the american version I guess |
| 21:09:37 | xfiuser | ill try another version |
| 21:09:50 | pamaury | try the european version, 1.04.08e |
| 21:09:58 | pamaury | I'll add this one to the list in the mean time |
| 21:11:08 | pamaury | xfiuser: even better, can you wait 1 min so I push a change and you retry with this installer ? |
| 21:11:10 | maysara | pamaury: The file system for both internal memory and microSD is FAT, Why won't it be possible? I want to make the library include the content of the microSD |
| 21:11:16 | xfiuser | yeah |
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| 21:12:08 | lebellium | maysara: you don't need that for the database |
| 21:12:16 | lebellium | both memories are merged |
| 21:12:29 | pamaury | xfiuser: in rbutil/mkzenboot/mkzenboot.c, insert this at line 175: |
| 21:12:29 | pamaury | { /* Version 1.04.08 */ MODEL_ZENXFI, "c3cddf8468d8c8982e93aa9986c5a152", "1.04.08"}, |
| 21:12:37 | pamaury | then recompile mkzenboot |
| 21:13:13 | pamaury | bluebrother: ping |
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| 21:14:24 | maysara | lebellium: Sorry. I forgot to tell you that I'm using Firmware 1.25 |
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| 21:14:54 | lebellium | .... you're on the rockbox chan ;) |
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| 21:15:21 | lebellium | we don't care about OF v1.25 here :) |
| 21:18:07 | pamaury | xfiuser: is it working now ? |
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| 21:33:00 | xfiuser | yeah pamaury works now. will test later on and give feedback tomorrow but i have the firmware.nk now. thanks for all your help. |
| 21:33:01 | xfiuser | gtg |
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| 22:02:45 | lebellium | rasher: can something be done to fix the sim builds for Fuze+/Gigabeat/Onda? I secretly hope that would automatically add the YP-R0 to the table. |
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| 22:45:25 | wodz | pamaury: I confirmed on device that your atj scrambling/descrambling routine is correct. |
| 22:46:42 | pamaury | cool :) |
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| 23:01:26 | wodz | \o/ dumped 64k of rom and it actually makes sense :-) |
| 23:03:15 | pamaury | good, is it useful or you already had it in the ATJ material ? |
| 23:04:29 | wodz | General boot scheme is described in atj materials but I much prefer to confirm this in disasm. |
| 23:08:16 | SrRaven | This may sound stupid, but whats a good modern day mp3 player that doesnt have a fcking touchscreen? |
| 23:08:47 | pamaury | SrRaven: touchscreen or touchpad ? |
| 23:09:10 | SrRaven | work with gloves (Winter is coming!) |
| 23:09:28 | pamaury | wodz: do we know everything now on atj ? all the formats ? |
| 23:10:38 | wodz | pamaury: I don't understand the question |
| 23:10:59 | pamaury | do we know everything abut boot scheme and formats of the firmware ? |
| 23:11:07 | wodz | pamaury: no |
| 23:12:06 | wodz | pamaury: I don't know what happens in flash loader and if we are able to inject code there |
| 23:12:43 | pamaury | SrRaven: clip zip, sony nwz-e360 |
| 23:13:03 | pamaury | I assume you mean rockboxed |
| 23:15:14 | pamaury | if you allow second hand players, there are many more |
| 23:24:16 | SrRaven | my clip zip is fcked |
| 23:24:22 | SrRaven | it wont ever charge to 100% |
| 23:24:31 | SrRaven | always at like..25% max |
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