#rockbox 2013-11-14

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#rockbox log for 2013-11-14

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00:17:02	lonoxmont	andypotter: yes i have a build environment up and running, ill go ahead and compile a new version with those flags set
00:19:12	lonoxmont	Platform set to ipodvideo
00:19:14	lonoxmont	Build (N)ormal, (A)dvanced, (S)imulator, (B)ootloader, (C)heckWPS, (D)atabase tool, (W)arble codec tool: (Defaults to N)
00:19:26	lonoxmont	i dont see an l
00:19:33	lonoxmont	ill try it anyways though
00:19:50	gevaerts	lonoxmont: andypotter did mention (a)dvanced first :)
00:22:07	lonoxmont	ah
00:22:10	lonoxmont	compiling now
00:24:17	lonoxmont	how do i load the fonts and such? i have osme tracks labeled in japanese and would like to see something besides boxes on these custom builds
00:26:34	lonoxmont	also do i have to delete everything out of the build folder inbetween compiles?
00:27:21	gevaerts	When you change configure options, you should always run make clean
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00:28:40	gevaerts	When you're just rebuilding after a git pull or changing some files, just re-run make
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00:31:42	lonoxmont	mmk
00:33:37	lonoxmont	alright, ran make clean and make -j
00:33:52	lonoxmont	for whatever reason the second go round was much faster than the first
00:38:10	lonoxmont	zip made, but i wont be able to test it till i get home tonight, as my ipod is there and not here :/
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00:45:57	lonoxmont	thanks for the help so far
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01:11:09	JdGordon	hey pamaury
01:11:20	JdGordon	do you remember talking about the filesystem scanner a while ago?
01:11:44	JdGordon	g#224
01:11:46	fs-bluebot	Gerrit review #224 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/224 : by (changes/24/224/6)
01:13:20	pamaury	oh yeah, that was a looong time ago, i'll see what I can do, is a there a special motivation now ?
01:15:58	JdGordon	not really
01:18:27	pamaury	can you recall me what is the issue with the gerrit patch ? or what needs improvement ? I seem to recall it uses only the generic file operations right ?
01:19:20	JdGordon	yeah
01:19:39	JdGordon	it isnt very efficient if it can use the raw fat functions
01:21:54	pamaury	ok, but you are satisfied with the interface ?
01:22:51	MarcAndersen	My sansa clip zip just stopped working while I was installing rockbox it disconnected itself, rbutil crashed and now it's dead and when I connect it it says that the device was not identified. What to do?
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01:29:00	pamaury	MarcAndersen: installing bootloader or just .rockbox directory ?
01:29:35	JdGordon	pamaury: as far as I remember, yeah
01:30:00	JdGordon	it needs to be integrated properly into dircache though
01:30:15	JdGordon	but that should simplify dircache.. or just move a ton of its code out
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01:30:43	MarcAndersen	i think it was just .rockbox
01:31:03	pamaury	MarcAndersen: have you try to reset ?
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01:31:20	pamaury	on the zip I think you must hold power for 20 sec
01:31:24	MarcAndersen	i held down power for 30 seconds
01:31:43	pamaury	and what happen when you plug usb ?
01:32:00	MarcAndersen	just an unidentified device message
01:32:19	pamaury	can you tell it's USB PID and VID ?
01:32:28	pamaury	*its
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01:34:46	MarcAndersen	where do i find that?
01:35:45	pamaury	in windows you probably need to go into the device manager and look for advanced properties
01:36:00	pamaury	can you tell at least what type of device it is detected as ?
01:36:44	MarcAndersen	just unknown device
01:36:50	pamaury	just nothing or mass storage but does not report as Sansa Clip Zip ?
01:37:42	pamaury	Windows in its glory, unhelpful as no one can be...
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01:39:58	pamaury	you better see this with people who know the zip anyway, I'm just too tired now
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01:43:47	MarcAndersen	I will let it run down on power and try again tomorrow
01:44:33	lonoxmont	make sure it still charges before oyu let it run out...
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02:31:37	[Saint]	JdGordon: I'm sure its not the intended purpose, but I'm really having fun with the draw rectangle option, using it to draw lines to build a set of divisions and borders for a theme that would be slightly more "expensive" to draw with a bitmap.
02:31:40	[Saint]	:)
02:32:05	JdGordon	isnt that exactly what it wass for?
02:32:22	[Saint]	Not the way I'm using it.
02:33:04	[Saint]	I'm using it to draw lines.
02:33:39	[Saint]	...well, I guess that is the intended purpose, as its just a "really, really, really thin rectangle".
02:33:50	JdGordon	:)
02:34:14	JdGordon	yeah, it was really supposed to be used to draw the background gradient, but apparently that sucks
02:34:49	[Saint]	It doesn't /suck/, its just nowhere near as nice looking as it isn't dithered at all.
02:35:32	[Saint]	I thought dithering would be fairly trivial to add, and it probably is, but I don't recall thinking that way after I looked at it.
02:35:40	[Saint]	Maybe I should look again, that was an age ago.
02:39:09	[Saint]	JdGordon: Oh, that's something I was going to ask. Maybe I'm naive about the way this area of the skin engine works, or possibly the way LCDs work in general, but why is it that when using the fallback theme when you check the skin engine allocations there is still a backdrop loaded?
02:39:31	[Saint]	EVen though the "backdrop" is just the background color.
02:39:46	JdGordon	there is always a background
02:42:45	JdGordon	lunch time!
02:42:51	[Saint]	I was just surprised to a backdrop taking up such a huge portion of the allocations, or any at all really, when there was no backdrop specified and its falling back to the background viewport color.
02:43:16	[Saint]	Like I said, naive to the way it functions I guess.
02:43:33	[Saint]	I didn't know drawing a block of solid color to an LCD was so expensive.
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03:07:40	JdGordon	[Saint]: i tihnk its more that there is things that assume a background and its easier allocating an empty one
03:07:44	JdGordon	or it could be a bug :p
03:09:11	[Saint]	Total usage: 157140 bytes
03:09:33	[Saint]	(320x240 fallback theme)
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03:10:25	[Saint]	Of that, the skin file usage is only 3540 bytes, which is about what I would expect. But the backdrop allocation thre me. It uses the remainder.
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07:45:12	MarcAndersen	Hi, my clip zip works again after discharging the battery. I wonder what happened yesterday.
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09:53:14	lebellium	MarcAndersen: the new sims are online :)
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10:55:53	DuperMan	yo
10:56:16	DuperMan	pinging pamaury
10:56:42	DuperMan	all quadrants acknowledge and enhance
10:56:52	DuperMan	ping pamaury, ping
10:59:03	DuperMan	hmmmm... can I e out of ... nopes. got smokes.
10:59:57	DuperMan	is varnish flamable?
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11:03:15	lebellium	pamaury is not here
11:11:30	DuperMan	I can not see that. might he be here now later?
11:11:58	DuperMan	well, obviously he is rather likely to been.
11:13:10	DuperMan	PING :P
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11:17:49	dodo_	there are some mistakes in the translation of rb into german. how can i fix the language file?
11:18:47	DuperMan	hrrrmph... official site should have links
11:18:48	DuperMan	wait
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11:20:03	DuperMan	www.rockbox.org/wiki
11:20:45	gevaerts	That's helpful
11:20:45	dodo_	k, thx
11:21:04	gevaerts	dodo_: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtilityDevelopment#How_to_Translate
11:21:20	gevaerts	That assumes you have the source
11:21:37	gevaerts	If it's just one or two mistakes, you could of course also just submit a bug report
11:23:08	DuperMan	200-400 years since Rosetta stone was unearthed and still no proper production-line type ("on rails") env for translating
11:23:12	DuperMan	meh humanity, meh
11:23:57	dodo_	yeah youre right
11:23:58	pixelma	dodo_: just curious (as a German and parttaker in the translation) - what do you want to change, if you could tell in short?
11:24:08	dodo_	some stuff in the menus
11:24:20	DuperMan	pixelma: born in the states?:P
11:24:22	dodo_	maybe its an theming problem
11:24:25	dodo_	nope from ger
11:24:55	DuperMan	mein deutchsprache is scheisse, tourist level :) nice matery over English there mate
11:25:06	gevaerts	DuperMan: actually, if you don't have anything useful to say...
11:25:06	pixelma	the question was which few things
11:25:20	dodo_	duperman: are you from germany?
11:25:32	dodo_	i am at work right now, will check it asap
11:25:41	gevaerts	DuperMan is just trying to be funny and wasting our time. Don't worry about him
11:25:44	DuperMan	gevaerts: better to seem a fool than be counted on
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11:27:30	lebellium	sigh...
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11:35:57	gevaerts	DuperMan: ok, now try to behave
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11:39:03	dodo_	is there any work to do?
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11:39:35	Zagor	dodo_: always :)
11:39:50	Zagor	dodo_: what areas are you interested in?
11:41:13	DuperMan	-_- tonetrollmodbetterbedevgodorwtf guess I'll bbl. ehr.. sorry for the trouble(?)
11:41:14	DuperMan	:)
11:41:45	dodo_	i'm a beginner coder, could translate, test
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11:50:34	dodo_	i do have a clip+
11:51:16	dodo_	for testing purposes eg
11:54:22	wodz	translation updates is good start probably
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11:56:18	dodo_	okay
11:56:26	dodo_	will do some work there in the next days
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12:18:21	pamaury	DuperMan: pong
12:25:29	wodz	pamaury: I emailed author of this ralink linux driver. Maybe he could share some documentation. Anyway I started to create my own 'reverse engineered' documentation for this core combining and crosschecking disasm, linux source and cypress manual
12:25:48	pamaury	good idea
12:28:36	wodz	cypress manual describes pretty well overall design but register map is completely different. Ralink driver uses different dma engine for data moving but register map is very similar. So I guess this is the same soft core synthesized with different options.
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12:58:58	DuperMan	yo pamaury
12:59:19	DuperMan	still having horrible lcd issues here - am I the only one?
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13:00:53	DuperMan	anything which sets backlight to off has at least a 4 in 5 liklihood to make the screen as bright a white as possible, then 1/3 odds of horrible "this can't be good for the device" class ghosting until boot
13:05:27	pamaury	I know, you are not the only one, I don't have the solution right now
13:08:14	DuperMan	ok. trying to set a build env myself to hopefully brick my player. failing since I'm lazy so no real question here :)
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17:02:08	pamaury	lebellium: ping
17:02:22	lebellium	just read your 2nd post on ABI haha
17:02:42	pamaury	I was passing by and saw it
17:02:50	pamaury	I hardly ever post to abi ^^
17:03:07	pamaury	anyway, my question is: did you ever bench the battery life of the E360 and/or E370 ?
17:03:32	lebellium	You won't remember that I don't have the E370^^
17:03:43	lebellium	no I didn't for the E360 but I can do it if you want
17:04:17	pamaury	ah yes, that's why I have to try it on my E370, now I remember :D
17:04:31	pamaury	yeah, that would be great. What would be awesome is to bench both OF and rockbox, with the same files of course
17:04:44	pamaury	Maybe I can do one and you the other
17:04:57	pamaury	but then we have to agree on the files
17:05:27	lebellium	I mostly have MP3 VBR V0 as I rip my CDs like that
17:06:20	pamaury	Ok, could you send me an album ? It must be greater than 32MB (ie greater than audio buffer)
17:06:46	pamaury	And tell me if you are going to test Rockbox or OF
17:06:54	lebellium	ah you want exactly the same files? I think the same format/bitrate should be enough
17:07:20	pamaury	I'm not sure I have MP3 VBR V0 files ^^
17:07:46	lebellium	what do you have most?
17:09:25	pamaury	a mixture of many things, mp3 of various quality, same for ogg, a few mpc, a few flac, a few wma
17:09:44	lebellium	hum ok
17:10:16	lebellium	I have some albums already uploaded I see
17:10:18	pamaury	I have a one sid file, but it doesn't work in rockbox
17:10:34	lebellium	I PM you the link since it's not really legal^^
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17:12:25	lebellium	done
17:13:02	pamaury	you bench Rockbox ?
17:15:47	lebellium	as you want
17:16:17	lebellium	The bench plugin is working?
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17:27:11	pamaury	lebellium: ah right, this is problematic
17:27:35	pamaury	I can explain you how to compile it specifically
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17:34:24	pamaury	gevaerts: why isn't the battery_bench plugin using the pluginlib ?
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17:35:20	lebellium	well I can also do a normal bench. For the OF there will be no choice anyway :)
17:35:40	gevaerts	Because nobody converted it, I assume?
17:36:33	pamaury	lebellium: using battery bench also provides data for battery calibration
17:37:16	lebellium	indeed
17:38:32	lebellium	so yes, please tell me how to compile it or compile it and send it to me :)
17:40:14	pamaury	wait a second, I'll commit some fix first and then i'll explain you how to build it
17:40:25	lebellium	ok
17:41:12	lebellium	Also I don't know if <what's his name?> tried my new keymapping on E370 yesterday since when I asked him he replied "lebellium: W8" ?!
17:43:00	pamaury	I didn't try to be honest, but they buttons are the same except for volume so I'm confident that if it compiles then it works
17:43:12	pamaury	do you still want to change it or can I commit it ?
17:44:34	lebellium	I don't want to change it but I would prefer if some other users like you give a feedback before commiting it. Since I changed quite many things
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17:44:42	pamaury	ah yeah sure
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17:45:22	pamaury	ok, now you can compile battery_bench this way: first you need to update your repo, since I just comitted some fix
17:45:25	lebellium	Yes I'm quite sure it works on E370. It's more about if you agree with my changes^^
17:45:58	lebellium	ok let me start the VM
17:46:01	pamaury	then edit tools/configure and at line 3581, change plugins="" to plugins="yes"
17:47:05	pamaury	finally, if the build dir, do "make reconf", "make clean", "make bin" (to build main binary), "make codecs" (to build the codecs) and "make `pwd`/apps/plugins/battery_bench.rock"
17:48:53	pamaury	then you will need to copy the plugin by hand: it will be located in <current dir>/apps/plugins/battery_bench.rock
17:49:10	pamaury	and you need to put it on the device in .rockbox/plugins/ I think
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17:52:08	lebellium	ubuntu@ubuntu-VirtualBox:~/rockbox/E360bench$ make reconf
17:52:10	lebellium	make: *** No rule to make target `reconf'. Stop.
17:53:34	foolsh	make zip
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17:55:03	lebellium	or maybe you mean I must do all those things after "../tools/configure" and "make -j"?
17:55:17	pamaury	you must do everything after ../tools/configure yes
17:55:46	pamaury	don't run make -j because it will fail when compile plugins, you need to compile only one plugin by hand (the battery_bench one)
17:57:01	gevaerts	It shouldn't fail, really
17:57:27	lebellium	heh it's damn slow without "-j" :D
17:57:30	pamaury	gevaerts: most plugins don't have a keympa, compilation will fail at some point
17:58:19	gevaerts	Right. Well, you can add -j to all of those make commands then, just don't run a plain "make -j" for the default target
17:58:42	gevaerts	Just "make -j bin codecs `pwd`/apps/plugins/battery_bench.rock" should do it :)
17:59:49	lebellium	ubuntu@ubuntu-VirtualBox:~/rockbox/E360bench$ make `pwd`/apps/plugins/battery_bench.rock
17:59:51	lebellium	make: *** No rule to make target `/home/ubuntu/rockbox/E360bench/apps/plugins/battery_bench.rock'. Stop.
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18:02:41	gevaerts	lebellium: try "make ENABLEDPLUGINS=yes `pwd`/apps/plugins/battery_bench.rock"
18:02:48	gevaerts	Don't run away from the errors you see!
18:03:08	lebellium	you're really good :D
18:03:08	gevaerts	With a bit of luck, that will build the plugin
18:03:30	lebellium	that worked indeed
18:04:01	gevaerts	The problem is that without that, the makefiles for plugins aren't read
18:06:30	lebellium	pamaury: ok I have battery_bench.rock now. Do I need to update my Rockbox build as well?
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18:08:38	pamaury	lebellium: probably not, except if you build on the device is old
18:08:51	lebellium	no, from yesterday :)
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18:12:07	lebellium	ok it works pamaury :)
18:12:20	lebellium	ready for the benchmark
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18:13:49	lebellium	pamaury: default display settings? what volume?
18:15:07	pamaury	yeah, make sure the default display setting include backlight timer (I'm not sure it does). I think it is common to do it at -10dB
18:15:16	pamaury	just make sure to indicate it
18:15:34	pamaury	with headphones of course
18:17:00	lebellium	backlight 15 seconds
18:17:37	lebellium	I'll turn on the screen from time to time to check how it's going on, ok?
18:18:16	pamaury	ok
18:18:20	pamaury	good luck ;)
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18:39:39	chrisjj	Hi folks.
18:40:31	chrisjj	If anyone fancies a break from the real work here :) I have a question: how does one discover the manufacturers firmware key, needed to encrypt replacement firmware?
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18:43:00	scorche\|sh	chrisjj: probably best off asking that question in #rockbox-community unless it is directly related to a Rockbox port
18:43:57	pamaury	chrisjj: that's very dependent on the target
18:47:24	pamaury	if you have a specific target in mind, we may give you some insight
18:48:19	chrisjj	No specific target. I'm just interested to understand the process. So for examepl, how was the Creative ZEN key discovered?
18:49:20	pamaury	there are two keys on the ZEN, bootloader key and firmware key, so which one ? :)
18:50:29	chrisjj	I guess both were needed for the RB port, so A: Both.
18:52:00	pamaury	You loose, it was B: firmware key. The bootloader key was only discovered later, we don't use it because we don't touch Creative bootloader. It was extracted from the OTP (One Time Programmable) section of the chip, using some tricks because it's not meant to read
18:52:14	pamaury	Actually there is a third key involved: installer key
18:53:15	pamaury	The installer contains an encrypted version of the firmware (which is itself encrypted). Since the installer contains both the encrypted firmware, the encryption key and the decryption routine, the installer key and algorithm was reverse engineered from the installer. This is was always you to give an installer and extract a firmware out of it.
18:53:50	pamaury	For the firmware itself, it was derived by someone noticing that there is a pattern in the keys used by Creative for its players
18:54:05	pamaury	like "blablablaZEN" for the ZEN, "blalballaMOZAIC" for Mozaic and so on
18:54:27	chrisjj	By "the installer" you mean the Creative Tech. firmware updater e.g. "ZEN_PCFW_L22_1_21_03e.exe" ?
18:54:41	pamaury	yes
18:55:38	pamaury	Now you might wonder how this pattern was discovered. I cannot tell for sure because it's very old, my guess is that on the oldest Creative players, the storage was a hard drive so it was easy to remove it from the device and get the firmware. The decryption key was found in the bootloader which was, I guess, unencrypted on though ancient devices
18:56:15	pamaury	Similarly for the encryption algorithm of the firmware which was reverse engineered from the bootloader I guess
18:56:36	chrisjj	What process ever authenticated on the installer/update key, since certainly not the execution by Windows?
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18:57:59	pamaury	I don't understand your question
18:58:51	chrisjj	I may be wrong, but I assume the installer/updater key is required to decrypt the installer/updater, but what process is doing that?
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19:00:04	Vechs	Hello
19:00:07	pamaury	chrisjj: the installer itself, which is pretty DuperMan
19:00:09	pamaury	*dumb
19:00:16	pamaury	oops, autocompletion ^^
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19:03:19	chrisjj	Oh dear, that's net three quits since my question. I must be boring people :) Thanks pamaury - I'll do some research from your answers and comes back when I understand more. And thanks to the user name now lost for the suggestion of taking this to #rockbox-community instead. Bye for now/
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19:20:03	lonoxmont	andypotter: going to put the build with the debugging you had me make onto my ipod
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19:47:22	Szczepancio	pamaury: That bootloader that work's on e370/e380 is your, or rockbox?
19:47:49	lonoxmont	andypotter: build works, what do you need me to do to get the info you need? i asusme something to do with plugging it into my car and it will record everything that tries to happen
19:48:17	pamaury	Szczepancio: not sure what you mean. The bootloader on e370 is a modified OF with rockbox bootloader
19:49:12	Szczepancio	Ahh.
19:49:48	Szczepancio	I mean "you wroted the bootloader, or it's from rockbox sources".
19:50:18	pamaury	the source of the bootloader in our repository, same for the tool which takes the OF and modify it to include our bootloader
19:50:49	pamaury	I just uploaded the file using the firmware you gave me as the OF, but anyone can produce it by running the commands described on the wiki
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20:13:17	*	[Saint] wonders why "on" is even an allowed setting for the wheel light.
20:13:36	[Saint]	I suppose, it doesn't seem to be a policy to disallow the user from doing stupid things.
20:14:29	[Saint]	My humble use cases can't seem to find a way to justify the power usage.
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20:27:17	Szczepancio	pamaury: I can ask you how you maked/builded an sb file with a rockbox bootloader?
20:27:31	Szczepancio	pamaury: Just wanna know your magic, haha ^^
20:28:09	Szczepancio	pamaury: And why you don't merge the topic's on forum? And why port of e380 is unlisted on main page?
20:28:10	pamaury	http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SonyNWZE370Port
20:28:27	Szczepancio	pamaury: Ah, I remember there was a tutorial, but I forgot, sorry.
20:28:42	pamaury	Because I haven't update the main page, yet
20:28:54	Szczepancio	pamaury: Can you?
20:29:23	pamaury	Not right now, I don't have the rights anyway, just be patient
20:29:38	Szczepancio	pamaury: Sure, no problem :3
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22:56:42	lebellium	pamaury: currently 3.860V. 61% remaining after 4,5hors
22:56:46	lebellium	hours*
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23:01:47	pamaury	lebellium: ok, percentage is irrelevant, the curve is not calibrated
23:02:10	pamaury	lebellium: can you go into debug > HW Info > clock and give me the cpu clock speed, just for informaton ?
23:03:16	pamaury	let me check how the E370 OF is going on...
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23:04:15	lebellium	Damn this clock debug menu is unclear
23:04:58	lebellium	there are several columns: name, en, by, idiv, fdiv, frequency
23:05:00	pamaury	ah yeah, the E370 screen is too small
23:05:06	pamaury	you want frequency
23:05:14	pamaury	it should be 64000 on the cpu line
23:05:29	lebellium	yes it is
23:05:35	pamaury	ok thanks
23:05:58	pamaury	the OF doesn't have precise reading unfortunately, I started 2h ago and it still read 3 bar of 3, not very helpful
23:06:24	lebellium	like most players with OF :)
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23:09:00	pamaury	some have detailled percentage in settings or OF info
23:10:04	lebellium	hum I can't think of any right now except the YP-R1 with a pourcentage indicator widget
23:13:47	wodz	pamaury: could you remind me where can I find atj scramble/descramble program?
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23:16:45	pamaury	wodz: the one I wrote recently ?
23:18:50	wodz	yes
23:21:04	pamaury	https://gist.github.com/pamaury/7354330
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23:23:41	wodz	pamaury: Ok I found the key in boot rom :-)
23:24:13	pamaury	which key ?
23:24:55	wodz	unsigned char xor_key[512] used in your tool
23:25:18	pamaury	I see :) I hope it's indeed the same
23:25:32	wodz	it is
23:25:38	wodz	just compared
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