| 00:01:20 | pamaury | hum, there is definitely something fishy, maybe mobile ddr is not set to low-power mode by the bootloader ? Not sure if that could explain such a difference |
| 00:01:44 | pamaury | or maybe it is related to audio settings |
| 00:02:49 | pamaury | I need to plug hwstub into this OF to see |
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| 00:08:51 | pamaury | I guess we could even lower the power but I'm not sure we could decode mp3 with this |
| 00:09:46 | [Saint] | There's clearly something awry if the OF has the potential to beat us by ~75% |
| 00:10:02 | [Saint] | ...what, however, is anyone's guess. |
| 00:10:43 | [Saint] | Of course there's always the possibility that the OF's battery bar is *really* poorly calibrated. |
| 00:10:46 | pamaury | what is even stranger is that we beat the Fuze+ OF by large with the same code |
| 00:10:54 | [Saint] | Indeed. |
| 00:11:25 | pamaury | that's why i'm thinking about some ram related setting maybe |
| 00:12:01 | [Saint] | you think some chip not running in a low power state could eat *so* much power? |
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| 00:12:26 | [Saint] | Currently, assuming the F's battery bar is anywhere near accurate - that's a massive difference. |
| 00:12:31 | [Saint] | *OF's |
| 00:13:32 | mudlord | Hi I have a general question regarding embedded C since I want to tinker with rockbox on my Sansa Clip Zip which is being shipped. |
| 00:13:40 | mudlord | I already have experience in C |
| 00:13:49 | mudlord | I am wondering is things like malloc() allowed? |
| 00:14:25 | [Saint] | mudlord: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WhyNoMalloc |
| 00:14:31 | lebellium | I don't believe the battery indicator is accurate but I expect it to last at least 20hrs like pamaury's E370 |
| 00:14:33 | mudlord | thank you |
| 00:14:42 | pamaury | [Saint]: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WhyNoMalloc |
| 00:14:47 | pamaury | dammit, [Saint] was faster |
| 00:15:09 | mudlord | so strcmp and things are still allowed? |
| 00:16:03 | pamaury | we do have limited forms of memory allocation but they have great restrictions due to the lack of virtual memory. |
| 00:16:03 | pamaury | Yes of course |
| 00:16:21 | mudlord | Okay, so mainly the limits are for memory size, etc |
| 00:16:22 | mudlord | cool |
| 00:16:23 | mudlord | thnx |
| 00:17:15 | [Saint] | Some targets have ~2MB or less to play with. |
| 00:17:26 | mudlord | Ah |
| 00:21:13 | [Saint] | If you're only counting "real DAPs", then I think targets can have anywhere between 1 and 64MB of RAM available. |
| 00:23:04 | mudlord | my intended target for the tinkering is the Sansa Clip Zip, 8GB model |
| 00:23:19 | [Saint] | A fine wee beast. |
| 00:23:20 | mudlord | not sure on the amount of ram it has |
| 00:23:23 | mudlord | nice |
| 00:23:38 | pamaury | 8MB |
| 00:23:44 | [Saint] | 8MB for th |
| 00:23:49 | [Saint] | Haha..you beat me this time. |
| 00:24:11 | pamaury | ;) |
| 00:25:22 | [Saint] | For such tiny wee things, the Clip(s) are all really nice targets, really. |
| 00:25:58 | [Saint] | I prefer the big, actual spinning platter disc, brick-type players myself - but there's nothing wrong with the wee flash guys. |
| 00:26:18 | pamaury | yeah only USB is problematic with the clips |
| 00:26:50 | [Saint] | Do you think its worth returning to booting the OF on connect? |
| 00:27:16 | [Saint] | It might piss a few people off, but, it would alter the "the crap doesn't work" perception that seems to be building. |
| 00:27:47 | mudlord | I guess then I will have plenty of questions then when my shipment arrives |
| 00:28:01 | mudlord | atm I downloaded vbox and the rockbox virtualbox package |
| 00:28:03 | [Saint] | looking forward to it. :) |
| 00:28:33 | [Saint] | Making sure you can compile the project is definitely a great first step. |
| 00:28:46 | [Saint] | Jump around the source a bit, have a look at how its structured. |
| 00:29:24 | pamaury | [Saint]: no opinion on this, but that would definitely spare us the "usb doesn't work" and us responding "yes we know, please read the manual/wiki before talking" |
| 00:29:47 | [Saint] | pamaury: indeed. |
| 00:30:06 | [Saint] | Frankly, it looks bad. |
| 00:30:23 | [Saint] | "USB is broken", "yes, we know", "...but, it says stable" |
| 00:30:45 | gevaerts | The problem is having to release different bootloaders for this |
| 00:31:01 | [Saint] | Ah yes. |
| 00:31:16 | [Saint] | I think its worth considering, nonetheless. |
| 00:31:43 | [Saint] | But I have no desire to get into another quasi-bricking bootloader experience either. |
| 00:34:00 | [Saint] | SOmeone wanted to do a release soonish - perhaps that is the time to do so? |
| 00:34:42 | gevaerts | The tricky thing to watch out for is a setup where rockbox reboots for USB and the bootloader thinks rockbox wants to handle it |
| 00:35:10 | [Saint] | Yeah. |
| 00:35:18 | [Saint] | Man, that was ugly. |
| 00:37:08 | gevaerts | The other direction just means that booting with USB goes to the OF, which may be a bit confusing but without actually sending people into a panic |
| 00:37:38 | [Saint] | I know my opinion alone means squat - and this needs some debate - but I think we passed the point a while back where this fails for more people than it works for. |
| 00:38:12 | [Saint] | /something/ needs to be done, and I know some very smart people have looked at fixing USB - if that is currently not an option, we need to consider going back to the OF> |
| 00:38:35 | [Saint] | I'm more thinking about potential users than existing users that have already been forced to figure this out. |
| 00:39:28 | [Saint] | I don;t think we can call these targets "stable" in good faith knowing that USB almost certainly won't work. |
| 00:39:48 | gevaerts | I don't disagree |
| 00:40:15 | gevaerts | Oh, how does rbutil handle these bootloaders? Don't we also need a properly coordinated release of that? |
| 00:40:50 | [Saint] | Yes, I believe so. |
| 00:41:14 | [Saint] | This is definitely something that needs a few points of coordination should it happen. |
| 00:41:33 | funman | rockbox USB is definitely better than OF USB |
| 00:41:55 | [Saint] | funman: IFF it works...which is basically never. |
| 00:42:05 | funman | works fine for me |
| 00:42:26 | lebellium | if it only works fine for you, I don't see how you could claim it is better then OF USB :) |
| 00:42:27 | [Saint] | Right, but the people whom it works for are a tiny percentile. |
| 00:42:40 | [Saint] | /tiny/ |
| 00:42:49 | funman | [Saint]: do you have numbers? |
| 00:42:55 | * | gevaerts points out that we don't have any idea about the numbers |
| 00:43:13 | funman | ah well, i can't test on my broken clip+ obviously :/ |
| 00:43:28 | gevaerts | I know we have the STALL recovery issue |
| 00:44:03 | gevaerts | And that one is going to show up for first time users on windows |
| 00:44:41 | gevaerts | I don't know what happens after that point, but I think it's not unlikely to be a one time issue |
| 00:44:57 | [Saint] | Ok - yes, I'll admit. There's no real data I have on numbers of success vs. fail - that was improper. Based purely on support requests alone there's no denying that there's a problem, though. |
| 00:45:12 | [Saint] | And shrugging and saying "works for me" isn;t really an option. |
| 00:45:36 | [Saint] | Well - of course its an option - but its a crap one. |
| 00:45:54 | funman | [Saint]: I am giving results, not options |
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| 00:46:42 | [Saint] | I realize that but saying it works for you is rather meaningless when we know it doesn't work for so many others. |
| 00:46:44 | funman | I obviously know USB has a problem but it works most of the time for me (1 plug or unplug out of 10 will give me hard lock up) |
| 00:47:04 | funman | [Saint]: how many |
| 00:47:18 | pamaury | if like gevaerts suggest this is all (or even only mostly) related to the STALL recovery issue (and so to MTP detection on first connect on Windows), then there is a trivial solution to the problem |
| 00:47:37 | funman | i doubt it is a Windows problem, I have the same results on Linux / Windows and OSX |
| 00:47:49 | gevaerts | funman: this particular one is |
| 00:47:50 | funman | there could be more than one issue though |
| 00:48:01 | gevaerts | pamaury: provide an OS descriptor? |
| 00:48:12 | pamaury | yes, or provide "something" |
| 00:48:31 | pamaury | we are not infrindging anyone IP by sending an empty string for this particular value |
| 00:48:41 | gevaerts | Ah, indeed |
| 00:48:49 | gevaerts | Well, it better be a valid string then :) |
| 00:49:34 | gevaerts | funman: if you run the python script I attached to FS #12910, I promise you it will kill the USB connection |
| 00:49:35 | pamaury | yes probably :) Not sure how Windows will interpret it though, needs some experiment. |
| 00:49:35 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12910 Sansa zip clip fails to enumerate over USB under Windows. (bugs, unconfirmed) |
| 00:49:43 | funman | http://pastie.org/8483749 |
| 00:49:46 | gevaerts | And that's what windows does on first connect with new devices |
| 00:49:59 | funman | gevaerts: will look, updating to latest git first |
| 00:50:04 | pamaury | But I don't see any disadvantage here: we know for sure that if you plug it under Windows, it will 99% crash the usb core because of this bug |
| 00:51:05 | pamaury | gevaerts: did you try with the OF ? Ask for some other invalid string ? Does it recover from STALL ? |
| 00:51:06 | gevaerts | pamaury: do you know if windows rememembers not to try again if it crashed the device? IIRC I read somewhere they do remember not to ask again if you don't have the string |
| 00:51:25 | [Saint] | Bah - there's no non-trivial way to scrape the forums for specific complaints. |
| 00:51:42 | pamaury | gevaerts: I'm mixed on this, I personally experienced cases where Windows would never remember |
| 00:52:01 | gevaerts | pamaury: I tried the OF with 0xEE, yes, and it works. My e200v1 also works with rockbox, so it's not a general issue |
| 00:52:19 | gevaerts | [Saint]: thing is, you won't find any numbers for those where it works |
| 00:52:32 | pamaury | Because I still have my work in progress disassembly of the Clip+ (or V2) bootrom, I went pretty far in USB |
| 00:52:39 | gevaerts | pamaury: I didn't try any other string |
| 00:52:42 | pamaury | it must know how to recover |
| 00:54:07 | funman | make zip |
| 00:54:07 | funman | can't open database.ignore at /media/dev/rockbox/tools/buildzip.pl line 374. |
| 00:54:09 | funman | hmm :/ |
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| 00:57:07 | pamaury | memory settings are fine on the nwz370 so the battery life difference doesn't come from here |
| 00:57:40 | funman | my clip+ died again |
| 00:59:47 | funman | gevaerts: AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'busses' |
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| 01:00:04 | gevaerts | funman: bah. pyusb 0.4 vs 1.0 I bet |
| 01:00:37 | gevaerts | I'm on 0.4, and the thing is that I know nothing about it, really... |
| 01:00:49 | funman | hmm it wasn't installed at all |
| 01:00:59 | funman | I should not have saved this script as usb.py |
| 01:01:16 | funman | descriptor: (4, 3, 9, 4) |
| 01:01:17 | funman | 0xEE failed as expected |
| 01:01:17 | funman | Problem! |
| 01:01:35 | funman | fuzev2 is not responding now |
| 01:01:59 | gevaerts | What it does is get a normal string descriptor, then 0xEE which should fail, then a normal again which should work |
| 01:03:40 | funman | apparently Ubuntu Saucy's perl doesn't like buildzip.pl |
| 01:05:25 | funman | http://pastie.org/8483781 |
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| 01:17:31 | funman | gevaerts: the fuzev2 still works fine on unplug though |
| 01:17:42 | funman | no hard lock up |
| 01:18:05 | gevaerts | I've had it both lock up and work |
| 01:18:12 | gevaerts | Well, not at the same time :) |
| 01:18:25 | gevaerts | But the lock up could be the "other" issue |
| 01:24:10 | funman | [Saint]: did you mention a jtagged amsv2 the other day? |
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| 03:40:38 | [Saint] | funman: TheSeven was trying to get rid of one a while ago. |
| 03:41:06 | [Saint] | Prod him I guess, not sure if it found a home yet. |
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| 08:04:17 | lonoxmont | and there wasnt a log file in the .rockbox folder either |
| 08:04:25 | lonoxmont | it may be iap over usb after all :/ |
| 08:08:53 | lonoxmont | rather not reencode all my shit to the various apple formats and use the fisher-price firmware, but may have to do so :/ |
| 08:10:02 | lonoxmont | though i suspect it may also somewhat come down to the cable, theres two versions of it for my car, one that supports tagging tracks off of the radio in itunes and one that does not |
| 08:10:19 | lonoxmont | maybe the tagging one is iap over usb while the other one isnt |
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| 09:51:12 | lorenzo92 | pamaury: ping |
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| 10:16:34 | lorenzo92 | pamaury: now z5 booted again, but removing the skin loading stuff line (very last one in main), memory corruption otherwise |
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| 10:51:33 | [Saint] | Uuuuuuggggghhhh. |
| 10:52:03 | [Saint] | The sustained transfer speed on the CEATA CLassic is awful. |
| 10:52:11 | [Saint] | ~5.6MB/s |
| 10:52:56 | [Saint] | Filling the disk takes approximately seventeen trillion years. |
| 10:53:24 | copper | I think you're exagerating. |
| 10:53:29 | copper | :3 |
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| 10:54:01 | [Saint] | Just a tiny bit. |
| 10:54:07 | copper | Ever so slightly. |
| 10:55:38 | [Saint] | But, seriously though - it takes like 8 hours. |
| 10:55:52 | [Saint] | WHich is nuts. Luckily I do it overnight. |
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| 10:55:55 | copper | Also, I think that USB / database fuck ups tend to bugger the Classic and make it run slow |
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| 10:56:28 | copper | every time I wipe it clean and reinstall Rockbox, copy my files and build the database, it runs much smoother and faster |
| 10:56:59 | copper | I have no idea how to reliably reproduce it and / or debug it |
| 10:57:31 | copper | even with my large lossyFLACs |
| 10:57:45 | copper | (400+ kbps) |
| 10:59:02 | [Saint] | I can't say I have noticed that myself. |
| 10:59:27 | copper | i think maybe one reason is filesystem problems due to Rockbox crashing while doing USB transfers… then the database tries to auto-update with fucked up data, or something, and possibly, I turn off the DAP before giving it a chance to let it finish |
| 10:59:28 | [Saint] | USing the device is fine, its just that USB transfer for bulk transfers is really, really, really slow. |
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| 11:00:13 | [Saint] | The Database should, in theory, be able to recover itself. |
| 11:00:23 | copper | I went into the debug menu last time before wiping the HDD clean, to see how fast the database was updating: it was going at like one song per second |
| 11:00:42 | copper | after the wipe, it went a hell of a lot faster (many songs per second) |
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| 11:01:09 | [Saint] | that can be a tricky-trickson, that screen. |
| 11:01:22 | [Saint] | User input can affect the update rate of the information displayed. |
| 11:01:44 | copper | I wasn't doing anything while watching progress |
| 11:01:52 | copper | not touching anything |
| 11:02:22 | [Saint] | Hmmmm. |
| 11:02:24 | [Saint] | Odd. |
| 11:02:33 | [Saint] | I can't think of a reason for that. |
| 11:02:35 | copper | besides, overall time of completion (i.e. when the HDD activity indicator stopped) was consistent with that assessment |
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| 11:05:22 | copper | [Saint]: about your speed problem: does changing block size when writing with dd improve speed? |
| 11:05:29 | copper | increasing* |
| 11:05:46 | n1s | listening to music while it updates will make it slower too |
| 11:06:35 | n1s | also if the filesystem is corrupten, maybe a stab at it with fsck.vfat will help |
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| 13:42:17 | DuperMan | pamaury: anyplace I can download plugins for zen? xD |
| 13:42:45 | pamaury | no |
| 13:43:26 | DuperMan | ah. so will need to open the wiki, see which arch to aim at and build like I have half a clue what I'm doing |
| 13:43:34 | DuperMan | so much work! :) |
| 13:43:57 | pamaury | they don't compile for now, we don't have keymap for them |
| 13:44:16 | DuperMan | w00t. isn't there a hal? |
| 13:45:06 | DuperMan | like, io's handled differently for plugins than rockbox or charsets? neat either way. guessing latter |
| 13:45:31 | pamaury | this is not the matter, the matter is you need to teach each plugin/game/app what key to use for what purpose |
| 13:45:44 | pamaury | it's not like a computer, there is a no standard layout of keys |
| 13:45:49 | DuperMan | whoa. considered that but thought nowai |
| 13:45:50 | DuperMan | lol |
| 13:46:06 | DuperMan | dos-like. awesome. |
| 13:46:43 | DuperMan | I honestly dig the implied simplistic nature of rockbox this conveys |
| 13:47:22 | pamaury | it's not of being simplistic, it's about being usable |
| 13:47:46 | DuperMan | not mutually exclusive. wasn't using simplistic as a derogative |
| 13:48:24 | DuperMan | similar approach to diskette era games, 5'12 floppies remember? |
| 13:48:56 | DuperMan | makes me think mem extenders but that would totally negate the point lol |
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| 13:49:48 | DuperMan | (forgot rockbox isn't an os but more of a load to mem app which handles native processor calls as it's os, forcing the wrong paradigm) |
| 13:50:03 | pamaury | for the simplest ones we have a standard set of keys but the more complex one, you have to come up with a a reasonable assignement of the keys |
| 13:50:06 | DuperMan | (that is, I forced the wrong paradigm on the description to understand) |
| 13:50:47 | DuperMan | still not worth putting in a dll like extension when some devices have as little as 32k mem presumably |
| 13:52:19 | DuperMan | how much work, in theory, will it take to put some buffer lib to remap keys from a device with the same architecture? |
| 13:53:35 | pamaury | we already have a such a lib, but there is no way to make it work for all plugins |
| 13:53:56 | DuperMan | oh. I weep for doom :) |
| 13:54:17 | n1s | DuperMan: if two devices share the same physical button layout, using the same keymap is rather easy |
| 13:54:24 | pamaury | I assure you, people have tried and have failed providing a general framework, it's just not possible, the players are too different |
| 13:54:34 | n1s | with the exception of combo limitations |
| 13:54:56 | DuperMan | I understand, sorry for redefining counter-productivity but I'm asking to understand better... :) |
| 13:55:26 | pamaury | unfortunately the ZEN has quite unique physical layout, fortunately though it has a lot of keys |
| 13:56:13 | DuperMan | sure redefines a lot.. must be easiest on devices that can take a remote. more places to hook and stuff |
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| 13:58:07 | lebellium | pamaury: 25.5hrs and still running |
| 13:58:10 | pamaury | do you want to help with this matter ? |
| 13:58:48 | pamaury | DuperMan: ^ |
| 13:59:13 | DuperMan | if I could.. using the software to learn here, still. :/ shouldv'e learned proper coding way earlier |
| 13:59:18 | pamaury | lebellium: ok, i've begun to compare the register map of E370 vs Rockbox, couldn't spot anything to relevant currently |
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| 13:59:52 | pamaury | DuperMan: have you ever programmed before or not ? |
| 13:59:59 | pamaury | Because it can be done in the simulator |
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| 14:01:07 | DuperMan | pascal. I'll try set up the emulator - I doubt the zen is a known target yet :) |
| 14:01:51 | pamaury | yes it is, the simulator is working, just the plugins are disabled but it can be fixed easily |
| 14:02:02 | pamaury | are you using Windows or Linux ? |
| 14:03:16 | DuperMan | ah. yeah, you answered how to do that yesterday iirc so it should be in the irc logs. linux, a bit hesitant to setup the env with it's required compilers chain cause I blindly build cyanogenmod as well on the same box but I'll take the "risk" |
| 14:04:30 | pamaury | You don't need any cross compiler for this, except if you want to test it on a real target, but in my opinion it's just faster to test it in the simulator |
| 14:04:33 | DuperMan | huess I can't say anything productive before doing that, so wiki re-reading time for me:) thanks |
| 14:04:57 | pamaury | If you choose the simulator, read this: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UiSimulator |
| 14:05:26 | DuperMan | oh. figures, just need a simulated io system - ergo simulator, not emulator. thanks again ^_^ |
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| 14:09:05 | DuperMan | good old target 98. herp derp |
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| 14:10:39 | DuperMan | drats. Xming should suffice as a gui right? |
| 14:11:02 | DuperMan | my setup remotes all the things through windows |
| 14:11:55 | pamaury | I guess, trying is still the best way to know, right ? |
| 14:12:56 | DuperMan | shall be done momentarily :D |
| 14:14:31 | DuperMan | heh. crashed Xming. will try in xfce oO |
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| 14:17:32 | DuperMan | now updates to many of the things. will report laters |
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| 14:25:15 | DuperMan | funny how framework dependant the simulator is in contrast to rockbox itself :) laters |
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| 15:47:24 | DuperMan | pamaury: hooray. when I load xfce beforehand the simulator loads dandy |
| 15:47:46 | DuperMan | no audio output at the moment but I doubt that part merits more tweaking :) |
| 15:50:29 | DuperMan | (meaning my workstation isn't set up for audio - I have no reason to assume it works nor to test that:) |
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| 15:59:43 | lebellium | pamaury: have to leave for the weekend now, so I stop the benchmark and will resume it on Sunday evening. 27.5hrs so far!! |
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| 16:01:16 | DuperMan | runtime lebellium?!?!?!?! |
| 16:01:19 | DuperMan | ^_______^ |
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| 16:41:24 | [7] | funman: clip+ |
| 16:47:38 | funman | [7]: did you look at the USB issues with it? |
| 16:48:05 | funman | if you don't want it I might take a look but I don't know how much time I want to invest |
| 16:48:17 | funman | (specifically on USB) |
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| 17:36:17 | [7] | no, I didn't work on USB with that one |
| 17:36:52 | [7] | that was mostly an attempt to figure out a way how to unbrick those things without jtag, but it turned out that it probably has irrecoverable damage |
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| 19:14:03 | pamaury | [7]: don't remember, what is the datasheet you suggest for the usb core desc ? I'm still disassembling the clip+ ROM to see how it handles this STALL |
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| 19:30:09 | pamaury | this code is seriously brain dead, I've already found 300 usb functions/methods and there is more |
| 19:30:36 | funman | pamaury: i have S3C6400X_UserManual_rev1-0_2008-02_661558um.pdf |
| 19:31:28 | pamaury | I'm looking at STM32F4xx |
| 19:31:35 | pamaury | it has a lot of details |
| 19:33:34 | [7] | funman: gevaerts managed to make a build that seemed to mostly work on that jtaghed clip+ |
| 19:33:46 | gevaerts | I did? |
| 19:33:49 | [7] | pamaury: yes, I suggested the stm32 one |
| 19:34:00 | [7] | hm, I think it was you... months ago |
| 19:34:12 | [7] | or possibly funman? not sure |
| 19:34:18 | gevaerts | I'm not saying it wasn't, but I don't remember anything about that |
| 19:34:23 | [7] | too long ago |
| 19:34:30 | gevaerts | Someone did :) |
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| 19:36:19 | funman | iirc it was me |
| 19:36:23 | [7] | pamaury: we could look at ST's reference implementation as well... it is equally overcomplicated with OTG and everything, but open source |
| 19:37:04 | [7] | it's kinda funny that nano2g and classic behave differently wrt. that stall bug, with the very same code |
| 19:37:08 | pamaury | [7]: do you have the link to the code ? |
| 19:38:04 | pamaury | but at least the ROM code works for sure ! It's just a f*** nightmare, I haven't found anything special about stall by the way |
| 19:38:10 | pamaury | yet |
| 19:38:53 | [7] | I think it's http://www.st.com/st-web-ui/static/active/en/st_prod_software_internet/resource/technical/software/firmware/stsw-stm32081.zip |
| 19:41:06 | [7] | hm, or could be that's for F1 |
| 19:41:51 | pamaury | the explaination about the fifo allocation are interesting too, it's clearly more complicated than I expected |
| 19:45:57 | [7] | http://www.st.com/web/catalog/mmc/FM141/SC1169/SS1577/LN11/PF252140# |
| 19:46:11 | [7] | various usb implementations can be found there |
| 19:49:08 | lonoxmont | [Saint]: any reason that the log file that is supposed to capture iap commands isnt capturing any? |
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| 20:09:40 | gevaerts | lonoxmont: one reason could be that there aren't any commands to log. Do you happen to have access to any ipod accessory that's not your car so you can try there? |
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| 20:28:31 | lonoxmont | gevaerts: ill look around but im not sure that i have anything smart enough to send iap, just some docks and things |
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| 21:36:13 | andypotter | lonoxmont:Most ipod hifi docks should use iap if they allow control from the hifi. Anything that can control the ipod should do. |
| 21:36:14 | andypotter | On my ipod video, I get 3 lines in the log file regarding codecs even if the ipod is not connected to a dock. Do you get any info in the log? |
| 21:36:55 | lonoxmont | andypotter: nothing at all in the file, it doenst even create one as far as i can tell |
| 21:37:03 | lonoxmont | do i have to make the file manually and then it will log to it? |
| 21:37:36 | wodz | lonoxmont: no |
| 21:37:42 | lonoxmont | hmm |
| 21:37:47 | lonoxmont | maybe i didnt compile it right |
| 21:38:00 | wodz | lonoxmont: I would double check that you enabled logging in the build |
| 21:38:16 | lonoxmont | i think i forgot to do a make clean the last time i tried to compile |
| 21:38:23 | lonoxmont | ill try doing that first then building again |
| 21:39:29 | wodz | make clean && configure && make to be sure |
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| 21:41:46 | lonoxmont | also in the options in configure, under advanced build do i need to make sure (D)EBUG is selected as well or just (L)ogf? |
| 21:42:08 | wodz | logf should be enough |
| 21:42:17 | lonoxmont | alright |
| 21:42:59 | wodz | BUT debug doesn't harm in this case. I don't know iap code so I can't say if something is not protected with DEBUG define |
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| 21:47:12 | lonoxmont | hmm, when i went to make zip it spit out another line of compiler stuff |
| 21:47:25 | lonoxmont | lonox@patchouli:~/rockbox/build$ make zip |
| 21:47:25 | lonoxmont | LD rockboy.rock |
| 21:47:25 | lonoxmont | lonox@patchouli:~/rockbox/build$ |
| 21:47:57 | lonoxmont | hasnt done that previously |
| 21:52:58 | wodz | its about plugin - irrelevant here |
| 21:54:06 | andypotter | Should not need debug, I just use (A)dvanced and (L)ogf and it creates the log. When finished, the rockbox.ipod binary should be about 750784 bytes in size. The normal build version should be about 747504 bytes (based on current git). |
| 21:58:00 | lonoxmont | size matches your number |
| 21:58:06 | lonoxmont | ill grab the zip now |
| 21:58:56 | sakax | hello rockbox lovers, how is ipod nano 2g progressing? especially the usb issue :) |
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| 22:00:18 | lonoxmont | do i need to delete the .rockbox folder on the ipod before unzipping this onto the ipod? was thinking of maybe renaming the current .rockbox so we know for sure its loading the debug version i just made |
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| 22:04:00 | lonoxmont | alright, i moved my current .rockbox to .rockbox-old, so it shuold for sure load the dev version now |
| 22:04:07 | lonoxmont | (after unzipping) |
| 22:04:24 | andypotter | shouldn't need to delete the .rockbox folder. I just copy in the rockbox.ipod binary, leaving everything else alone and it works OK. |
| 22:05:34 | lonoxmont | still nothing in debug > show log file |
| 22:05:36 | lonoxmont | :/ |
| 22:05:47 | lonoxmont | not even lines about codecs |
| 22:05:56 | lonoxmont | ill try recompinling with debug set as well |
| 22:06:01 | lonoxmont | *recompiling |
| 22:06:27 | saratoga | this is with logf? usually you need to compile a debug build AND enable logf in the file you want to log. i assume you did both of those? |
| 22:07:14 | lonoxmont | ive done what andypotter said to do, made a build with logf set |
| 22:07:42 | lonoxmont | i dont know what to do past that |
| 22:07:44 | saratoga | did you enable it for whatever files you want to log? |
| 22:07:53 | lonoxmont | how do i do that? |
| 22:08:00 | saratoga | I think you have to add a #define and maybe uncomment logf.h |
| 22:08:53 | lonoxmont | where would i do that? |
| 22:09:27 | saratoga | each file that calls logf needs to have it enabled in that specific file |
| 22:09:40 | saratoga | otherwise your log would fill up with thousands of unrelated debug messages very quickly |
| 22:10:02 | andypotter | The IAP code will automatically output to logf.txt if an (A)dvanced build with (L)ogf is selected. Shouldn't need anything more than that, mine doesn't. |
| 22:10:38 | saratoga | ah it shouldn't do that, but I guess its ok since you'll only get output if using an accessory which is unlikely to conflict with anything |
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| 22:55:39 | lonoxmont | looks like its logging correctly when connecting to an ihome dock alarm thing my sister had, ipod didnt do much besides that though |
| 22:56:17 | lonoxmont | ill go try it on my car one more time |
| 22:56:33 | lonoxmont | unless you wanted that logfile for whatever reason |
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| 23:04:22 | lonoxmont | unfortunately it logged nothing when connecting to my car, meaning its probably using iap over usb, and thus undebuggable |
| 23:04:58 | wodz | unsupported rather |
| 23:05:15 | lonoxmont | im guessing permanently unsupported due to lisencing issues |
| 23:05:23 | andypotter | Anyone want to write an IAP over USB patch? ;) |
| 23:05:45 | wodz | lonoxmont: we would happily accept patch for this :-) |
| 23:06:54 | lonoxmont | well ive got a possible lead on the whitepaper describing iap over usb, dunno if itl pan out or not, wont find out for several months |
| 23:07:23 | saratoga | theres detailed specifications for IAP over USB on google |
| 23:07:52 | lonoxmont | so its an untractable problem or something? |
| 23:07:56 | lonoxmont | *intractable |
| 23:08:05 | saratoga | but it uses public key encryption to authenticate devices, so unless theres a flaw in their crypto, or your vendor was lazy about verification, you won't be able to talk to it |
| 23:08:35 | lonoxmont | ah, unless apples private key gets leaked... |
| 23:08:55 | saratoga | i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of devices are lazy about authentication though, the point of the PKA was to prevent unauthorized ipod accessories, probably not to prevent unauthorized ipods |
| 23:09:14 | andypotter | It's on my list of things to do but it's nowhere near the top. Plus I've very little info to go on other than that in the Apple Ipod Accessory Protocol Docs. |
| 23:09:14 | lonoxmont | hmm |
| 23:09:33 | saratoga | andypotter: which ones do you have? |
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| 23:12:40 | wodz | pamaury: I made another attempt to run hwstub on rk27xx and failed. My observations are as follows: 1) At least on my box it takes considerable time for device to get setup request. The one which passes blocking wait in usb_drv_recv_setup() is just before usb bus reset. 2) The device simply doesn't respond to this request. usb_drv_send() is entered but wireshark doesn't see any data :-/ |
| 23:13:47 | pamaury | yeah, same observation here. Last I time I tried it was similar iirc |
| 23:14:33 | andypotter | saratoga: Ive got Apple Accessory Protocol Interface Spec R38 ( a lot of screenshots from chinese site), R35 as a PDF and Ipod Extended Interface Spec R21. |
| 23:15:00 | saratoga | ok thats probably all the ones i've seen floating aorund |
| 23:15:55 | lonoxmont | andypotter: if you had access to more could oyu do more? |
| 23:16:13 | wodz | pamaury: I spotted a couple of possible errors but still I can't make it going |
| 23:17:45 | andypotter | I could try. I know it wont be easy but I could do with it for the wife's Renault head unit which is IAP over USB. |
| 23:19:51 | saratoga | i believe the USB protocol uses some variant of the USB audio spec |
| 23:19:56 | saratoga | so supporting that would be required too |
| 23:20:26 | saratoga | this could be useful on other devices as well |
| 23:21:02 | wodz | pamaury: Next time I'll try interrupt version of usb driver. |
| 23:23:27 | pamaury | on the rknanob I used interrupts and I have a similar problem: I never get the setup interrupt for some reason |
| 23:23:38 | andypotter | I'll look through what I have but I don't have a lot of time available and there's three things I want to do first, 1G Mini IAP Support, 2G Nano IAP Support and 6G Classic IAP. |
| 23:24:23 | andypotter | The first one I have working, the others will take a lot longer. |
| 23:26:42 | saratoga | yeah getting IAP on non-PP devices would make people happy |
| 23:28:05 | wodz | pamaury: Can you pastebin somewhere irq version of the stub? |
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| 23:31:09 | wodz | pamaury: What is the sequence of events from the device POV? Reset, Setup ? |
| 23:31:39 | pamaury | with rknanob ? |
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| 23:32:55 | wodz | pamaury: with every device, no? |
| 23:33:20 | pamaury | I was referring to your first statement |
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| 23:33:41 | pamaury | irq are handled quite differently on rknano since it's cortex-m3 |
| 23:34:42 | wodz | pamaury: I am interested in changes which makes stub asynchronous rather then fully synchronous. |
| 23:35:08 | pamaury | there are none, only the driver in asynchronous, and it's not working |
| 23:35:27 | wodz | pamaury: I guess you setup some flag or something which is cleared in irq. |
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| 23:36:17 | pamaury | Yeah but I don't see the point, I can post the code if you want but I mean the rknano driver has been using irq since the beginning |
| 23:37:39 | pamaury | pamaury/rockbox-1/tree/hwstub_rknano">https://github.com/pamaury/rockbox-1/tree/hwstub_rknano |
| 23:38:07 | pamaury | and it's quite incomplete too since I can't even get a setuo |
| 23:38:10 | pamaury | *setup |
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