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00:53:57 | Dynion | Hey guys! |
00:55:05 | Dynion | having some trouble with my ipod classic (6g)... playback often crashes at 0:02 or 0:07 seconds |
00:55:22 | Dynion | gotta reset the thingy to fix it to try again |
00:55:28 | Dynion | anyone have a clue or tip? |
00:56:45 | [Saint] | On (a) specific track(s), or on any track? |
00:59:48 | [Saint] | ...Dynion? |
01:00 |
01:01:31 | * | [Saint] wonders if Dynion wants support or not. |
01:01:46 | Dynion | sorry! |
01:01:51 | Dynion | i got distracted |
01:02:06 | Dynion | not entirely sure to be honest... |
01:02:13 | Dynion | its either a lot of specific tracks, or all |
01:02:38 | [Saint] | And always at the same time markers? |
01:02:39 | Dynion | but i have the idea flac and good mp3's do it more |
01:03:12 | Dynion | almost always 0:02 or 0:07, sometimes different |
01:03:25 | Dynion | i had 00:32 once for example |
01:04:42 | [Saint] | Have you checked the filesystem? |
01:04:57 | Dynion | im pretty noob... no idea what it is:p |
01:05:40 | Dynion | i just followed a very clear guide :X (Dont laugh at me too hard) |
01:06:01 | [Saint] | What operting system are you using? |
01:06:10 | Dynion | windows 7 pro x64 |
01:06:13 | [Saint] | *operating |
01:06:17 | Dynion | (legal, if it matters) |
01:06:28 | copper | well fuck: year old build on the Clip+ managed 11 hours 33 minutes versus 15 hours for the recent revision: the opposite of the Classic. https://outpost.fr/tmp/oZC.txt |
01:06:53 | [Saint] | Dynion: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-nz/windows-vista/check-your-hard-disk-for-errors |
01:07:03 | [Saint] | copper: Well...fuck indeed. |
01:07:26 | [Saint] | Dynion: ignore the fact it states vista in the link, it shoul dbe the same. |
01:07:29 | [Saint] | *should be |
01:07:42 | Dynion | yeah... i know where to find that one anyway:P |
01:07:53 | Dynion | as long as no coding is needed i can do most things |
01:08:08 | Dynion | but the only code i know is probably bbcode :P |
01:08:31 | [Saint] | make sure both "automatically fix filesystem errors" and "scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors" are checked. |
01:08:49 | Dynion | willdo:) |
01:09:18 | [Saint] | copper: That...that pretty much flies in the face of what we suspected. |
01:09:20 | [Saint] | Shit. |
01:09:30 | copper | yup |
01:09:52 | [Saint] | Thought the Clip+ was getting rather a lot of attention around then. |
01:09:55 | copper | pamaury (logs): Fuze+ 6ac481e: 31h 10m https://outpost.fr/tmp/vEy.txt |
01:10:02 | Dynion | what? does the voltage decrease over time? |
01:10:04 | Dynion | thats pretty weird |
01:10:18 | wodz | Dynion: thats pretty normal |
01:10:25 | [Saint] | Batteries would need to be magic for that to not happen. |
01:10:30 | Dynion | yeah ok |
01:10:44 | Dynion | im used to do theoretical work with batteries |
01:10:53 | Dynion | so loss is not accounted for |
01:12:07 | [Saint] | If you find a way to store charge indefinitely without loss, I'm pretty sure you'll be well on your way to being a bajillionaire...or getting murdered by Mobil Oil. |
01:12:24 | Dynion | xD yeah you're right |
01:12:24 | [Saint] | Probably the latter. |
01:13:04 | Dynion | hmmm... the check for error thingy just goes away in 1 second:/ |
01:15:01 | [Saint] | Well, that's odd. |
01:15:21 | [Saint] | Far too quick to be doing anything even remotely useful. |
01:15:34 | Dynion | far too quick to do anything at all even... |
01:16:03 | [Saint] | And even if it were, it shouldn't just exit out without prompt. |
01:16:07 | [Saint] | Hum. |
01:16:19 | [Saint] | Do you have your audio backed up elsewhere? |
01:16:28 | Dynion | i do |
01:16:36 | Dynion | but we have that seperate command too right? |
01:16:47 | Dynion | CHKDSK D:// or something |
01:17:17 | Dynion | chkdsk /d |
01:17:20 | Dynion | hmmm... not sure |
01:18:50 | Dynion | CHKDSK [D]: /F i believe |
01:19:09 | [Saint] | "CHKDSK /path/to/device /F /R /V" |
01:19:38 | [Saint] | (basically: fix errors, print output, and attempt recovery of bad sectors) |
01:19:54 | Dynion | the path to device isnt /D |
01:20:27 | Dynion | (D is the name of the drive) |
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01:21:08 | [Saint] | Hmmm...I'm not sure if I'm misremembering the chkdsk syntax or not. |
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01:21:21 | [Saint] | I don;t recall if the path comes before or after the switches. |
01:21:42 | Dynion | same stuff... weird |
01:21:52 | Dynion | just flashes and goes away |
01:22:57 | [Saint] | I really hate such suggestions, but we could fight with this for however long it takes to figure out what I'm missing or you could simply nuke the data partition and copy your media back to it and hope that works. |
01:23:16 | [Saint] | emCORE has a "format data partition" entry in the tools menu. |
01:23:29 | copper | fresh format, fresh rockbox, fresh config, fresh data = win |
01:23:32 | copper | ^^ |
01:23:49 | copper | I'm beat, good night. |
01:23:55 | [Saint] | o/ |
01:24:07 | Dynion | nah... i love such suggestions to be honest:p |
01:24:19 | Dynion | unless in installed 600 drivers before... |
01:25:07 | Dynion | its only 18gb anyway |
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01:25:26 | Dynion | 5 to 10 minutes |
01:25:35 | Dynion | where's the emcore format? |
01:26:21 | [Saint] | Ok, so. We know what we're doing? Stating once again for clarity - this *will* nuke every ounce of data on the device - so, if you want/need it, back it up. |
01:26:39 | [Saint] | You'll find the format data partition option in emCORE's tools menu. |
01:26:59 | Dynion | wtf is up with this ipod... 750kb/s? |
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01:27:09 | [Saint] | After the format completes, you'll want to mount the device and extract http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipod6g.zip to it. |
01:27:30 | [Saint] | Then copy over a small subset of your audio for testing. |
01:27:42 | Dynion | cant i just format it with the files on it? |
01:27:53 | Dynion | ive got all the music on both an external and on my computer anyway |
01:28:05 | Dynion | format usually works with full harddisks... |
01:28:33 | [Saint] | ...I...what? |
01:28:47 | [Saint] | Of course you can. There's no need to remove the data from the device before formatting. |
01:29:01 | Dynion | yeah ok... i already found that pretty strange xD |
01:29:41 | Dynion | dropped into emcore console |
01:29:50 | Dynion | what now? |
01:30:09 | [Saint] | WHy did you do that? |
01:30:24 | Dynion | well... cause its the only emcore screen i have? |
01:30:42 | Dynion | shut down, rockbox or emcore console |
01:31:09 | [7] | ...and "tools" on the very right |
01:31:16 | Dynion | oh wait... tools |
01:31:18 | Dynion | it isnt on screen |
01:31:37 | Dynion | reformat data partition? |
01:31:52 | [Saint] | Yes. Like I said earlier. Under the tools menu. |
01:32:10 | Dynion | sorry. im afraid i overlooked that part |
01:32:34 | Dynion | that only takes like two seconds too? |
01:32:48 | [Saint] | Yes. |
01:33:06 | [Saint] | Well, about ~10s or so. Very quick anyway. |
01:34:05 | Dynion | hmmm |
01:34:27 | [Saint] | Now, reboot (it will boot to the fallback image), mount the device, and extract the Rockbox binary I linked above to it. |
01:34:29 | Dynion | no ipod in my computer or manage−−> device manager |
01:34:45 | Dynion | ah thanks |
01:36:46 | Dynion | extracted it |
01:36:57 | Dynion | just pull cable out? or something else |
01:37:10 | [Saint] | Safely eject the volume. |
01:37:15 | [Saint] | Always safely eject. |
01:37:21 | Dynion | errr... |
01:37:34 | [Saint] | (that may well be how you ended up in this mess) |
01:37:35 | Dynion | hmmm... well... even now is a time to change habits =) |
01:38:20 | [Saint] | Its really important to make sure you safely eject. ALways. Otherwise there is no guarantee the data was written to the device. |
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01:38:35 | Dynion | Hey! |
01:38:43 | Dynion | Its twice as fast |
01:39:23 | [Saint] | I can only manage ~6.4MB/s on mine. |
01:39:34 | [Saint] | Whereas the OF easily gets ~20MB/s |
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01:39:55 | Dynion | i usually get 13.8mb/s when transferring from computer... |
01:39:59 | [Saint] | [7]: Have I prodded you about that? IS it something you're aware of? |
01:40:22 | [7] | what in particular? |
01:40:29 | Dynion | [7]: Sofia is a lovely city ^_^ |
01:40:31 | [7] | the speed issues? |
01:40:46 | [Saint] | Painfully slow data transmission, yeah. |
01:41:02 | [7] | I don't remember such a big difference |
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01:41:08 | [7] | those drives can do 30-40MB/s internally |
01:41:33 | [7] | and I think I got like 20 or so via USB back when I wrote the drivers |
01:41:56 | [Saint] | I get 20~22MB/s with the OF, but under Rb I top out at 7MB/s max. |
01:42:35 | Dynion | 15 mb/s |
01:42:39 | [Saint] | I only usually do mass transfers overnight, so its not so much of a big issue. |
01:42:48 | Dynion | even thats better... did you give me anewer version saint? |
01:43:00 | Dynion | it feels both faster and transfer rates are higher too |
01:43:08 | [Saint] | Dynion: its the most current version possible. |
01:43:22 | [Saint] | That link will always point to the most current version. Bookmark it if you'd like. |
01:43:30 | pubwsli | Now that Dynion is all set I'd like to step in if I can... I've been having some difficulties myself, and I asked this chat a couple hours ago but I received no response. I am very eager to get this fixed, so here comes my question again: |
01:43:35 | pubwsli | I'm experimenting with addons in rockdoom and I keep encountering the same error. While Doom runs fine, my addon does not. I downloaded the .wad I wanted and put it in .rockbox/doom/addons. |
01:43:49 | pubwsli | I loaded Rockdoom, selected my addon, and pressed play game. Every time I do this, the lines of text flash as usual, but it says in one of them that something is wrong with my shareware and then it gets stuck on a line about sprites, duplicating it every second until it's been about 30 seconds, then rockdoom quits. [17:35] <pubwsli> Does anyone know what could be the issue? |
01:44:49 | [Saint] | Rockdoom was only ever really tested with PrBoom and the official WADs. |
01:44:58 | [Saint] | My shareware and official verions run fine. |
01:45:31 | [Saint] | No one has touched the rockdoom code for years. Its regarded as strictly a novelty. |
01:45:56 | Dynion | thanks saint! imma go to bed now. its late here:p |
01:46:07 | [Saint] | Not a problem Dynion |
01:46:15 | [Saint] | Sleep well, etc. |
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01:46:40 | pubwsli | I know this isn't official, but I've read accounts of numerous people using the exact same .wad as me and encountering no difficulties. I'm just thinking that there's something I'm missing. |
01:46:55 | [Saint] | WHat target is this? |
01:47:52 | [Saint] | (what device is this? - if that is a less clumsy and more understandable wording) |
01:47:53 | pubwsli | I'm trying to get Goldeneye 007 on a Sandisk Sansa Clip Zip using a .wad called zgold64 or something, which seems to be very popular in the wad community. |
01:52:31 | pubwsli | The device is an 8 GB Sandisk Sansa Clip Zip. |
01:52:32 | [Saint] | I can't recall how much RAm these things have. Could you start playback, and then navigate to the System -> Rockbox Info menu and read me out the "Buffer: " line? |
01:52:49 | [Saint] | +please |
01:53:13 | pubwsli | Sure, one second. Playing Rockboy at the moment... |
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01:53:49 | Dynion | :-( |
01:53:58 | Dynion | *panic* Mount: 0 |
01:55:02 | Dynion | i reset... is it something i should take seriously? |
01:56:43 | [Saint] | It may be an indication that your HDD is failing. |
01:56:52 | Dynion | hmmm |
01:56:57 | [Saint] | (which is hilariously common on these devices) |
01:57:08 | pubwsli | The buffer line says 5.29MB during audio playback. |
01:57:25 | Dynion | ah well.. the jack port of the one before this one is down |
01:57:38 | Dynion | ill put them together:) |
01:57:46 | [Saint] | pubwsli: You're almost certainly running out of RAM. |
01:58:00 | Dynion | can i put a 5.5 g harddisk in a 6g without software error? |
01:58:08 | [Saint] | No. |
01:58:28 | pubwsli | So the Clip Zip just doesn't have the horsepower? |
01:58:56 | [Saint] | It has the power, but it doesn't have infinite amunts of RAM to play with. |
01:59:02 | [Saint] | *amounts |
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01:59:36 | pubwsli | So is there anything I can do to make it run properly? |
01:59:51 | saratoga | i guess you could try it in the sim on a PC |
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02:00:00 | saratoga | if its just lack of RAM it'd work there |
02:00:18 | [Saint] | You could /possibly/ re-pack the WAD with smaller textures. |
02:00:23 | [Saint] | And no, it wouldn't. |
02:00:50 | Dynion | saint... any player with 30gb or more that has an equal or better audio quality? |
02:01:00 | Dynion | fuze+ 32gb i guess? |
02:01:31 | [Saint] | The Classic is probably the best contender available for sound quality. |
02:02:02 | [Saint] | Its disturbingly good actually. |
02:02:22 | Dynion | i found that too... its almost as good as my DAC (terratec phase 24FW) |
02:02:39 | Dynion | which is pretty damn impressive in my opinion |
02:02:51 | [Saint] | saratoga: do the sims not emulate the target devices available RAM? |
02:02:58 | [Saint] | That would seem like a huge flaw to me... |
02:03:18 | saratoga | just try it in a sim with more RAM |
02:03:32 | [Saint] | Ah, well...yeah. |
02:03:37 | saratoga | but no they don't exactly emulate the RAM either, but they usually only have a little more IIRC |
02:03:55 | Dynion | maybe i just need to upgrade my dac... but still.. i find the sound at home pretty good... my valve amp is pretty ok with the dac:P |
02:07:10 | [Saint] | pubwsli: Its is probably /possible/ to reduce the RAM usage of this addon - but the thought that plagues me is "Its Doom...on a DAP...is it really worth the time and effort?" |
02:07:10 | [Saint] | If the answer for you is "Yes.", then great - all power to you. |
02:07:10 | [Saint] | To be completely honest, if I had my way, I would boot it from the source - along with a lot of other novelty plugins. |
02:07:53 | Dynion | anyway... tomorrow testday for the ipod ^_^ hopefully you wont see me tomorrow evening:p |
02:07:57 | Dynion | im off now.. |
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02:08:01 | [Saint] | o/ |
02:08:52 | [Saint] | These days most people have a phone that is *way* more capable...so playing games on a DAP is little more than a mildly amusing demo for those that haven't seen it before. |
02:10:27 | [Saint] | That is part of the reason why the hosted application targets have very few plugins. The OS almost certainly has a far better native solution. |
02:11:44 | pubwsli | Okay, I gave it a try in the simulator on my computer and I got the same error. I have a screenshot of what happened right here: http://snag.gy/kGWXX.jpg |
02:12:12 | pubwsli | Two lines are missing off the bottom but this is basically everything that happened when I tried to play rockdoom with the custom wad. |
02:12:47 | [Saint] | Hmmm. Seems like it might be just plain broken. |
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02:13:29 | pubwsli | That's what I thought too, but it seems as if others have used this same wad successfully. |
02:13:47 | [Saint] | I wouldn't expect people to be tripping over each other to find the underlying issues here unfortunately. |
02:15:14 | saratoga | aren't those messages normal in doom? |
02:15:24 | pubwsli | Yeah, doesn't exactly seem like a top-priority problem. All I want is to get Goldeneye 007 to run somehow so I can impress a certain friend who loves the game. So I guess the best approach is just to keep searching for wads until I find one that works? |
02:16:03 | [Saint] | I would say the best solution would be to run this on a device it was intended to run on. |
02:16:12 | [Saint] | Frankly. |
02:16:34 | [Saint] | Then you'll get mouse look too! :) |
02:16:45 | [Saint] | And jump! |
02:16:49 | pubwsli | My intention isn't to play through Goldeneye 007 on a 96x96 display. I just want it, like you mentioned above, for the novelty. |
02:17:29 | [Saint] | I doubt you could play through it anyway, even if it did load, it would almost certainly fall over in later maps due to RAM restrictions. |
02:18:01 | pubwsli | Yeah, I'd be happy with just the first level. |
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02:19:13 | [Saint] | On a 96x96 display, enemies that are ~30ft in front of you in game are practically invisible due to the screen being compressed so much. |
02:19:24 | [Saint] | It will likely be a rather underwhelming experience. |
02:20:05 | [Saint] | But if you would like to persist with it the only thing I could suggest would be repacking the WAD with drastically reduced textures. |
02:21:22 | pubwsli | I'm not so sure how to do that... Do you have a recommendation for a WAD unpacker? |
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02:22:15 | [Saint] | We're sliding off topic here - Google gives me http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Choosing_a_WAD_editor which is the best I can do. |
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02:28:29 | pubwsli | Thanks for the link, Saint; unfortunately it seems as if most of these tools are so ancient that they don't even run on my computer. I'll just mess around on YouTube until I either figure it out or give up. |
02:28:38 | pubwsli | Either way, I appreciate all the help. |
02:29:17 | [Saint] | I would be immensely surprised if the linux WAD editors no longer functioned. |
02:29:50 | [Saint] | It depends how dedicated you are to your task, but a virtual machine can be up and running in a short amount of time. |
02:30:00 | [Saint] | You could likely do all this on a LiveCD as well. |
02:30:14 | [Saint] | But this extends far beyond the scope of Rockbox support. |
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02:32:33 | pubwsli | Yeah, I'm on Windows 7. I'm sure the Linux ones still work, but I'd rather not set up a virtual machine if I can help it. And yes, we've gotten way off topic, something I tend to be pretty good at. |
02:33:26 | pubwsli | Thanks again. Have a good night. |
02:33:30 | [Saint] | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD |
02:33:50 | [Saint] | (descibes both LiveCD/DVD and LiveUSB techniques) |
02:34:02 | pubwsli | Cool, I might have to use that |
02:34:12 | [Saint] | The benefit of which being nothing on the host system will be touched. |
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05:19:50 | [Saint] | *hopes, even. |
05:20:03 | [Saint] | I've been saving that one up for about a week. |
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05:36:28 | [Saint] | "cold welding"...very weird shit. |
05:37:02 | [Saint] | (it doesn't necessarily have to be a vacuum, cramming two surfaces together under intense force with hydraulic rams also works apparently) |
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07:11:18 | [Saint] | whoops. |
07:11:43 | [Saint] | That was intended for a whole other channel. Apologies. |
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11:55:55 | pamaury | copper: ping |
11:56:03 | copper | pamaury: pong |
11:56:14 | pamaury | did you finish the fuze+ benchmark ? |
11:56:20 | copper | pamaury: Fuze+ 6ac481e: 31h 10m https://outpost.fr/tmp/vEy.txt |
11:57:51 | pamaury | great thanks |
11:58:13 | copper | pamaury: I'm confused, why are you benchmarking commits that predate the 40 hour mark? |
11:58:29 | pamaury | so apparently the regression happened between july and aug since my august run gives 26h and your from september gives 30 |
11:58:32 | copper | as opposed to benchmarking revisions that came AFTER |
11:58:40 | pamaury | no they are after |
11:58:46 | copper | ugh |
11:59:35 | pamaury | your 40h run is c4f2a46, which is july |
11:59:53 | pamaury | all the revisions we have benchmarked so far are between this commit and HEAD |
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12:02:34 | copper | 2013/11/24 19:35:22 UTC <pamaury> copper: all revisions we are testing are older than the 40hours one |
12:03:02 | pamaury | sorry I meant older from the reverse point of view ^^ |
12:03:11 | copper | That's what confused me :) |
12:03:21 | copper | also, what? |
12:03:29 | copper | "older from the reverse point of view"? |
12:03:41 | copper | confused copper be confused! |
12:03:46 | copper | :P |
12:04:11 | pamaury | try to understand my thinking: they are older in the usual time line |
12:04:24 | pamaury | but they are more recent in the commit order (which is reversed !) |
12:04:36 | pamaury | anyway :p |
12:04:39 | copper | what |
12:04:49 | copper | in what timeline do you live? |
12:04:51 | pamaury | I have identified a few potential culprit commits |
12:05:37 | pamaury | in the usual one don't you ? though I admit pushing all those commits sometimes gets confusing |
12:06:15 | pamaury | culprit #1: 462adf2a0fefbfdbccfafa11c999ac6beb114e8a (imx233: always keep cards in TRAN mode) |
12:06:26 | copper | yeah I still can't wrap my head around the fact that september 2013 is "older" than july 2013 |
12:06:44 | copper | oh |
12:06:47 | copper | oh geez |
12:06:53 | copper | you mean like a person |
12:06:53 | pamaury | culprit #1: 96d355abba19f3f099f94a8b2d3e95be32c39be7 (imx233: fix drive strength for sd/mmc) |
12:06:58 | pamaury | *#2 |
12:07:00 | pamaury | exactly |
12:07:03 | copper | oh wow |
12:07:07 | pamaury | that's what usual people are like no ? |
12:07:18 | copper | that is a super weird way of talking about software |
12:07:41 | wodz | pamaury has very sophisticated TMU (time management unit). It is virtual time is multistage mapped with help of various JTLB (joined time lookaside buffers) :P |
12:07:42 | pamaury | if I were a robot you would be insulting me ! |
12:08:13 | pamaury | wodz: exactly, at least someone understands me |
12:10:01 | pamaury | copper: someone showed up yesterday and said he could do some fuze+ benchmarking so if you prefer to stop here for the sake of your battery, I would prefectly understand |
12:10:52 | pamaury | now I need a coffee, which is my natural source of energy |
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12:12:33 | copper | yup, thanks |
12:13:34 | copper | pamaury: i'm gonna stop the battery benchmarks here because 1) my last clip+ benchmark didn't produce the expected results, which means I would be shooting in the dark, and 2) I actually don't really care all that much about battery life :P |
12:17:53 | pamaury | ok :) |
12:19:16 | wodz | Are you sure that regression is imx233 specific? This reports about classics make me think we might have some general problem (and imx problems *maybe* on top) |
12:19:34 | copper | my Fuze+ was so badly discharged that it didn't even manage to charge itself off a wall wart charger |
12:20:47 | pamaury | wodz: at least on fuze+ we have a small window in which something *bad* happened, let find it and see |
12:20:57 | pamaury | copper: even with OF ? |
12:21:05 | copper | didn't try the OF |
12:21:18 | copper | I keep forgetting Rockbox isn't the Fuze's native firmware |
12:22:54 | pamaury | I noticed that sometimes rockbox won't boot on very low battery |
12:23:07 | pamaury | I'm unsure if this a rockbox problem or rather a problem with the fuze+ stubs |
12:23:35 | copper | right now it's connected to my computer in bootloader USB mode |
12:23:41 | copper | dunno if it's charging? |
12:25:08 | pamaury | rockbox USB ? |
12:25:17 | pamaury | or OF USB ? |
12:25:18 | pamaury | both charge anyway |
12:25:34 | pamaury | so stupid question ^^ |
12:26:48 | copper | rockbox bootloader USB |
12:32:56 | pamaury | good |
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14:59:04 | gevaerts | Yes |
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16:16:58 | copper | pamaury: my Fuze+ is not charging :( |
16:17:14 | copper | when unplugged, I can't even turn it on, at all |
16:17:41 | copper | when I plug it into my computer, it starts in rockbox bootloader usb mode, but doesn't seem to be charging |
16:17:57 | copper | when I plug it into a wall wart, it keeps rebooting over and over without even reaching the rockbox logo |
16:20:11 | copper | it's been doing that ever since my last battery benchmark finished |
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16:27:49 | chrisjj | Any idea why I get no Edit button on FS http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/9662/2972.png ? FS docs http://flyspray.org/manual:editing_task_details "You are the creator of the task and 24h have not yet passed since creation" indicates it should be there. |
16:32:31 | pamaury_ | chrisjj: I don't know, you can always post a comment no ? |
16:33:16 | Zagor | chrisjj: I added you to "Reporters" user group now. any change? |
16:33:46 | pamaury_ | by the way, the behaviour [Saint] mentionned on the forum is that you should avoid answering *every* post, especially if it adds no information (like "ok", "thanks", "understood"). And you can answer several questions in one post too. |
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16:35:12 | chrisjj | pamaury: Yes, I can apparently add a comment. |
16:35:24 | chrisjj | pamaury: No change. |
16:35:44 | copper | pamaury: is the "bootloader USB mode" supposed to charge the device? It doesn't seem to, and it seems that's my only chance of restoring my Fuze+ battery… |
16:36:26 | chrisjj | pamaury: I see Edit should be allowed additionally by the fact my permissions include http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9629/qoe8.png do include "Modify own tasks". |
16:37:12 | pamaury | copper: which bootloader version do you have ? |
16:37:39 | copper | says "Boot version: 1.0" |
16:37:40 | pamaury | copper: have you tried booting to the OF instead of RB in USB mode ? |
16:37:49 | copper | yup, not enough juice |
16:38:01 | copper | nothing boots, except the bootloader when I plug it into a computer USB port |
16:38:13 | copper | nothing boots even a little bit |
16:38:18 | copper | screen never turns on, at all |
16:39:02 | copper | (except in bootloader USB mode) |
16:39:21 | copper | It is le dead :( |
16:39:39 | chrisjj | FS docs http://flyspray.org/manual:editing_task_details , these seem to apply to a different version of FS. Anyone know how to find the RB FS version? Or its correct docs? |
16:39:41 | pamaury | copper: the normal procedure to boot OF in USB is: hold volume down, plug usb and keep holding volume down for some time |
16:39:53 | pamaury | copper: your bootloader is obsolete, current version is 2.0 |
16:40:22 | copper | how do I update it? |
16:40:44 | pamaury | boot into OB USB, recharge and use RockboxUtility |
16:40:55 | Zagor | chrisjj: that page says "Last modified: 2010/10/02" so yeah it seems a bit old |
16:41:09 | copper | aaaah, OF seems to be charging it |
16:41:23 | copper | didn't know about that procedure with the USB cable plugged in, thanks |
16:41:41 | copper | so it's not dead? :D |
16:41:46 | chrisjj | Zagor: And is that older than the RB FS? |
16:41:53 | Zagor | chrisjj: yes |
16:42:51 | pamaury | copper: it is described on the wiki ! |
16:42:57 | pamaury | and probably in the manual too |
16:43:11 | copper | Meh. |
16:43:20 | copper | I knew about the volume down thing when unplugged |
16:43:23 | pamaury | it cannot die anyway |
16:43:31 | copper | didn't know that it worked while plugged in |
16:43:43 | copper | pamaury: why, is it immortal? |
16:43:47 | copper | There can be only one! |
16:44:08 | pamaury | well it cannot that easily |
16:44:11 | pamaury | *cannot die |
16:47:15 | chrisjj | Zagor, OK, so what date is the RB FS, please? |
16:47:48 | Zagor | chrisjj: 2012-05-28 |
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16:48:43 | chrisjj | Coo... rather poor that it links to docs nearly two years out of date... |
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16:52:38 | chrisjj | It seems FS 2012 didn't have a manual: http://web.archive.org/web/20101027224826/http://flyspray.org/ . |
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16:52:55 | chrisjj | Correction: It seems FS 2010 didn't have a manual: http://web.archive.org/web/20101027224826/http://flyspray.org/ |
16:54:30 | chrisjj | pamaury: re forum posts. thanks for the explanation. Bye for now. |
16:56:02 | copper | pamaury: er, someone asked me how often they should update the bootloader on the Clip Zip, I told them they only need to install it once… was I wrong to say that? |
16:56:50 | pamaury | On the Zip probably not |
16:58:31 | pamaury | because the Zip is not the first device on SansaAMS, the port is mature. The fuze+ is the first port to imx233 so it's normal that when you first installed the bootloader it wasn't really mature |
16:58:56 | pamaury | Let's put it differently: until a platform is stable, there might be bootloader changes. That seems like a reasonable statement |
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17:01:59 | copper | I see, thanks |
17:02:12 | copper | indeed, I installed the bootloader when I got my Fuze+ ages ago |
17:02:56 | copper | never thought to update it |
17:03:16 | copper | what's new with version 2 of the rockbox usb bootloader? |
17:05:25 | pamaury | faster boot, charging |
17:05:36 | pamaury | mostly |
17:05:50 | pamaury | and general stability improvements |
17:06:13 | copper | nice |
17:06:59 | copper | now, if SanDisk would just give me Proof of Life on my microsdxc replacement… |
17:07:18 | copper | they haven't even acknowledged receiving the faulty one |
17:18:00 | * | copper is wondering if he should update emCORE |
17:19:09 | copper | they're still listing emCORE r859 (2012-01-02) |
17:21:19 | copper | but there are newer files from this year |
17:21:25 | copper | https://outpost.fr/EaE Index of /targets/iPod classic |
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19:01:45 | lorenzo92 | pamaury: g#678 |
19:01:46 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #678 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/678 : by Lorenzo Miori (changes/78/678/1) |
19:02:01 | lorenzo92 | bot working \o/ :D |
19:03:13 | lorenzo92 | pamaury: I know this breaks your ports, but I tought it would have been better to explicitly define the behaviour, do you think? |
19:03:50 | pamaury | lorenzo92: isn't the logic reversed ? |
19:04:31 | lorenzo92 | I actually had 2 minutes of thinking ^^ looking at the datasheet 1 (CAP_MODE) is the reset value, and you were clearing it to set CAPLESS_MODE |
19:04:51 | lorenzo92 | and so in debug menu I correctly see 1 for z5, before it was 0 |
19:05:18 | lorenzo92 | feel free to correct me if I'm wrong :) |
19:06:20 | pamaury | ah yeah sorry, it's in the pwrdn register |
19:06:26 | pamaury | you're right |
19:07:50 | pamaury | however I don't like the name of its, it's not consistent with other defines |
19:08:02 | pamaury | it should be IMX233_AUDIO_something |
19:08:45 | lorenzo92 | ah indeed, I had the same problem ^^ okay, I'll fix that |
19:08:47 | pamaury | if you look closely, there is a pattern in names: |
19:08:47 | pamaury | IMX233_driver_setting |
19:09:11 | pamaury | and if the setting is an enum, then the pattern for values is: |
19:09:11 | pamaury | acronym_name |
19:09:33 | lorenzo92 | yes I see, i'll fix that |
19:09:46 | pamaury | example: button lradc driver, IMX233_BUTTON_LRADC_HOLD_DET -> BLH_ADC |
19:09:57 | pamaury | BLH is an acronym for BUTTON_LRADC_HOLD |
19:10:23 | pamaury | same with fmradio: IMX233_FMRADIO_POWER -> FMP_GPIO |
19:10:30 | pamaury | FMP is FMRADIO_POWER |
19:10:30 | pamaury | :) |
19:10:30 | lorenzo92 | IMX233_AUDIO_COUPLING_MODE = CAPLESS_MODE or CAP_MODE ? |
19:10:42 | lorenzo92 | wops |
19:11:10 | lorenzo92 | ACM_CAPLESS_MODE? I just want to be precise ;p |
19:11:12 | pamaury | so in your case it should be IMX233_AUDIO_COUPLING_MODE -> ACM_CAP or ACM_CAPLESS for example |
19:11:21 | pamaury | I find the _MODE redundant |
19:11:25 | pamaury | it's already in ACM ;) |
19:11:27 | lorenzo92 | yes indeed |
19:11:29 | lorenzo92 | ;) |
19:12:10 | pamaury | and if you need subsettings (ie depend on a particular setting), then it's acronym_value_opt |
19:12:15 | pamaury | example: FMP_GPIO_BANK |
19:12:21 | pamaury | depends on FMP_GPIO ;) |
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19:13:12 | pamaury | Maybe we should have a wiki page for all these things about imx233 |
19:13:21 | pamaury | in case someone want to make a port, and for reference |
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19:30:21 | pixelma | music plays on as normal though. Maybe it has something to do with sleeping the lcd or something (wasn't there some bug report recently?, now that I think about it). I never understood when it goes into this state but it's always been doing this for me. |
19:31:08 | * | copper thinks someone should modify the Rockbox simulator to build a fully fledged desktop player |
19:32:16 | copper | just needs a good UI, really |
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19:32:57 | copper | pamaury: does the Fuze+ OF ever show the battery as fully charged? |
19:33:01 | copper | it's been hours |
19:33:41 | copper | 3 hours |
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19:33:48 | copper | hmmm, maybe not quite enough |
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19:34:14 | pamaury | copper: I don't remember |
19:34:26 | pamaury | but you can use rockbox to charge if you want, now that it will boot |
19:34:40 | pamaury | did you update the bootloader ? |
19:34:41 | copper | what's worrying is that it doesn't give an indicator of how close it is to full charge |
19:34:48 | copper | yup, I did |
19:35:07 | copper | ah, 93% |
19:35:09 | copper | good |
19:36:03 | copper | erm |
19:36:05 | pamaury | don't trust the percentage though, the curve seems a bit off |
19:36:08 | copper | it still says "Boot version: 1.0" |
19:36:16 | pamaury | did you reboot to OF to update ? |
19:36:18 | copper | yes |
19:36:25 | copper | but i didn't update RockboxUtility |
19:36:28 | copper | does that matter? |
19:36:50 | pamaury | in theory no, did you update with rockbox utility in OF USB mode or RB USB mode ? |
19:37:04 | copper | OF USB mode I think |
19:37:10 | copper | yes |
19:37:18 | copper | OF USB mode, definitely |
19:37:31 | copper | should I try again in RB USB mode? |
19:37:32 | pamaury | did it show the upgrading screen when you rebooted ? |
19:37:39 | pamaury | no it won't work in RB USB mode |
19:37:59 | pamaury | (rebooted to OF I mean) |
19:38:07 | copper | what? |
19:38:11 | copper | I'm confused |
19:38:22 | copper | should I run the RB utility in RB USB mode or OF USB mode? |
19:38:28 | pamaury | OF USB mode |
19:38:32 | pamaury | then reboot to OF |
19:38:35 | copper | let me try again |
19:38:39 | pamaury | then it should show an upgrade screen |
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19:39:01 | copper | ah, there it is |
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19:40:32 | copper | it's showing the OF update screen, but it's taking its sweet time |
19:40:38 | copper | it's plugged into USB |
19:40:46 | copper | ah, good |
19:40:55 | copper | completed, showing RB booloader v2 |
19:41:08 | copper | chargin status: trickle |
19:41:15 | copper | 81% |
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19:41:33 | copper | Die temp: 44°C |
19:42:00 | copper | pamaury: thanks for your help |
19:42:39 | pamaury | good |
19:43:37 | copper | I was about to send you a request for my money back ;) |
19:43:59 | copper | the entire €0 and not a cent less |
19:46:05 | copper | eh, it's doing its fully charged thing again |
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19:46:18 | copper | rapidly switching from 84% to 96% |
19:46:25 | copper | back and forth |
19:48:05 | copper | 4192 mV |
19:53:22 | pamaury | yeah the curve is a bit off as I said |
19:53:30 | pamaury | what you should trust is the charging state |
19:53:38 | pamaury | if you reach topoff it means it's finished |
19:55:09 | copper | "topoff"? |
19:55:22 | copper | is that russian for "fully charged"? :D |
19:56:04 | pamaury | no, it's a standard technical term about battery li-ion charging |
19:56:12 | copper | ah, indeed, it's saying "topoff" now |
19:56:28 | copper | i was expecting a picture of a semi-nude brunette |
19:56:34 | copper | I'm slightly disappointed. |
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20:00:08 | copper | Well, I'm glad my Fuze+ isn't dead. |
20:00:39 | lorenzo92 | haha :D |
20:00:51 | lorenzo92 | that is topless ^^ |
20:02:02 | lorenzo92 | pamaury: g#678 |
20:02:03 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #678 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/678 : by Lorenzo Miori (changes/78/678/2) |
20:04:26 | pamaury | lorenzo92: I have a few comments, I will review the patch |
20:06:14 | lorenzo92 | ;) |
20:07:11 | pamaury | done |
20:07:36 | lorenzo92 | ah that was quick ;) |
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20:18:27 | lorenzo92 | pamaury: thanks ;) |
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20:25:28 | * | bertrik got the "Missing log file" thing again :( |
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20:36:19 | Water | pamaury: Still need someone to help regress the Fuze+ battery time? |
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20:58:34 | pamaury | Water: yes |
20:59:23 | Water | Okay, I need the build, and audio files (or I can encode my own). |
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21:00:51 | pamaury | for the audio files, it doesn't really matter as long as the sum of all files your play in the playlist is much bigger than the audio buffer |
21:01:06 | pamaury | so basically it should account for at least 32MB |
21:01:14 | pamaury | for the build, wait a minute |
21:02:02 | Water | Okay −− playlist over 32MB. What about codec and bit rate? |
21:02:13 | gevaerts | pamaury: actually, wouldn't comparing a playlist that needs rebuffering and a playlist that doesn't be interesting too? |
21:03:05 | pamaury | gevaerts: not really because I suspend the bug might come from poor storage power management, and it doesn't depend on whether you rebuffer or not |
21:03:23 | pamaury | but since we started with these condition, it's important to keep them to be consistent |
21:03:25 | gevaerts | OK, if you have actual suspicions, that's different :) |
21:03:36 | pamaury | Water: any codec, usually we do MP3 with high bit rate |
21:03:51 | pamaury | gevaerts: well I didn't at the beginning but now I have a potential culprit commit ^^ |
21:04:01 | gevaerts | Ah, excellent! |
21:06:39 | pamaury | Water: I'm compiling, I will upload the build in a few minutes |
21:06:52 | pamaury | For reference, I'm assigning you revision acaedfd |
21:07:07 | Water | What about mSD card? Should one be in the Fuze+? Should the playlist be on internal or mSD? |
21:07:21 | gevaerts | Oh, you're trying out distributed bisecting? |
21:07:33 | pamaury | Water: internal storage, I did my benchmark without a mSD |
21:07:42 | Water | Will duplicate. |
21:07:44 | pamaury | gevaerts: yeah, it worked pretty well ;) |
21:07:52 | gevaerts | Clever :) |
21:08:05 | pamaury | We have only 20 revisions to go and even less interesting ones to go |
21:10:15 | pamaury | uploading...damn it is slow, I should have done this at the lab |
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21:12:45 | pamaury | gevaerts: by the way, I have a begun some editing on the wiki, I would like to document more how to port rockbox to new targets, especially on the imx233. Maybe that will be useful to other people |
21:13:44 | Water | pamaury: I have time. Any settings important? (backlight, replaygain, etc.) |
21:14:05 | pamaury | yeah, you should reset all settings (you can save yours before) and only enable repeat all |
21:14:08 | Water | Oh, and what about headphones? Earbuds can be plugged in? |
21:14:24 | pamaury | you must plug headphones, any kind your want |
21:14:52 | pamaury | I will explain you everything in a moment |
21:15:23 | Water | Okay, sorry. I'll wait. |
21:19:45 | pamaury | 1) dowload this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bgdu6c1j7velv7d/rockbox_acaedfd.zip |
21:19:45 | pamaury | 2) extract it at the root of device |
21:19:45 | pamaury | 3) put all the music files you need on the device |
21:19:45 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK pamaury |
21:19:45 | pamaury | 4) reboot |
21:19:45 | pamaury | 5) reset settings, enable repeat all |
21:19:46 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
21:19:46 | pamaury | 6) go into Plugins > Application > battery bench, touch play/pause |
21:19:49 | pamaury | 7) make sure it's running by running it again: it should say it's running |
21:19:51 | pamaury | 8) select a playlist and start it |
21:19:53 | pamaury | 9) go into While Playing Screen and lock the player |
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21:34:30 | Water | Okay. Test started on 320kb/s CBR mp3's. |
21:34:36 | Water | pamaury: |
21:37:03 | pamaury | thanks :) |
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21:38:50 | lebellium | pamaury: double typo "which is a rebandred Sigamtel STMP3780" :) |
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21:40:49 | Water | My pleasure. |
21:41:01 | pamaury | lebellium: damn, you follow my every move :) |
21:41:14 | pamaury | if you spot any more mistake, feel free to correct it ;) |
21:42:45 | lebellium | pamaury: feel free to add http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/LudovicJacques to the usergroup :P |
21:42:56 | pamaury | ah yeah |
21:43:01 | pamaury | ok I will, you win |
21:43:19 | lorenzo92 | haha |
21:43:20 | pamaury | you deserve it |
21:43:20 | lebellium | :) |
21:43:25 | lorenzo92 | finally :D |
21:43:53 | pamaury | can you recall me which page I should edit ? |
21:44:04 | pamaury | (that's the entry test) |
21:44:19 | pamaury | you have 1 minute :p |
21:44:29 | lebellium | arg |
21:44:52 | lebellium | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WikiUsersGroup |
21:45:03 | pamaury | thanks ;) |
21:46:02 | lebellium | actually I don't really know what's the best way to find wiki pages when they no longer appear on the home page http://www.rockbox.org/recent.shtml#wiki |
21:46:09 | lebellium | I used the search bar for this one |
21:47:37 | pamaury | this is ridiculous, this page is so large it takes ages to load with my connection |
21:49:02 | lebellium | Anyone knows how to display more than the 20 latest wiki edits? |
21:49:10 | pamaury | no |
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21:51:52 | pamaury | lebellium: it should be done now |
21:52:04 | pamaury | ah no, the wiki timed out on update :( |
21:52:25 | lebellium | great Portuguese connection :D |
21:53:58 | gevaerts | pamaury: shall I do it? |
21:54:05 | gevaerts | Or did you get through by now? |
21:58:40 | bluebrother^ | pamaury: pong |
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21:59:25 | pamaury | bluebrother^: wodz has a problem with my Qt qeditor, can you try it on your box to see if it works ? |
21:59:46 | bluebrother^ | sure |
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22:00:15 | pamaury | and if you spot anything weird |
22:00:27 | pamaury | on wodz box it fails to start with a ready weird error about pthread |
22:00:38 | pamaury | lebellium: try now |
22:01:03 | bluebrother^ | soc_desc.cpp:106:12: error: ‘UINT32_MAX’ was not declared in this scope |
22:01:40 | chrisjj_ | [Saint] "hops http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,13462.msg221575.html#msg221575 isn;t too assholeish". I'd say not too assholeish. :) |
22:03:54 | lebellium | pamaury: ok I successfully edited my 1st page. I promise the RB community won't regret overlooking my name :D |
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22:05:54 | bluebrother | seems to work |
22:05:58 | bluebrother | at least it doesn't crash |
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22:18:31 | wodz | bluebrother: try to load SoC description XML file thats when it crashes on my box |
22:22:37 | bluebrother | wodz: anyone or a special one? |
22:23:03 | bluebrother | hmm, it hangs for me |
22:23:27 | pamaury | bluebrother: can you trace the problem with gdb ? |
22:23:41 | bluebrother | ah, no. It just doesn't do anything if I haven't clicked New / Register Tab first |
22:25:07 | bluebrother | I now have multiple copies of the same entry in SoC selection but it doesn't crash |
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22:26:07 | bluebrother | hmm, why does it use "rockbox.com"? |
22:26:29 | pamaury | probably a typo :) |
22:26:37 | pamaury | you can load soc desc outside of any tab |
22:26:52 | pamaury | but the software loads standard descs on load already ^^ |
22:27:06 | pamaury | you can try load dumps from the regdumps directory with the right panel |
22:28:05 | bluebrother | ok, loaded one. Works for me |
22:28:23 | wodz | which file, I'll try here |
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22:29:00 | bluebrother | fuzep_2.36.8_regdump.txt |
22:29:52 | bluebrother | tried a couple of others, still no crash |
22:31:49 | wodz | try load File->Load->SoC description and choose any of the regtools/desc xml files |
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22:35:54 | lebellium | pamaury: you already uploaded fw 1.00 for E370 on your dropbox? |
22:36:11 | bluebrother | works fine for me. |
22:36:26 | bluebrother | how did you get Qt? Distro package? |
22:37:10 | wodz | bluebrother: yes |
22:37:28 | pamaury | lebellium: I think, let me check |
22:37:57 | pamaury | lebellium: I uploaded 1.0.1 here; https://www.dropbox.com/s/hbe1xmt7ovj6fcu/sonynwze370_1.0.1.firmware.sb |
22:38:05 | bluebrother | hmm. Strange. |
22:38:30 | bluebrother | I guess you distro didn't split up Qt and made its xml support a separate package? |
22:38:40 | pamaury | lebellium: and with rockbox bootloader: https://www.dropbox.com/s/28kilkwkjdt51uq/sonynwze370_rb_firmware.sb |
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22:38:52 | * | bluebrother tries to remember if that was some kind of Qt plugin or not |
22:39:01 | pamaury | bluebrother: the code is using libxml2 and not Qt xml |
22:39:11 | bluebrother | oh |
22:39:23 | bluebrother | ok, then scrap that :) |
22:39:25 | lebellium | pamaury: thanks |
22:39:38 | pamaury | that's because the desc read code is used by other tools, no using qt |
22:40:28 | pamaury | lebellium: we may have found the fuze+ power regression and I think it might explain nwz poor battery life |
22:40:38 | pamaury | I'm not 100% sure but I'm confident |
22:41:37 | lebellium | that would be awesome |
22:41:39 | pamaury | I will run a NWZ-E360 bench to see |
22:44:01 | lebellium | which is the responsible commit? |
22:44:36 | wodz | I am out of idea why qeditor crashes on my box :/ |
22:45:43 | gevaerts | Zagor: how are the nightly manuals built? tools/version.sh seems not to find .git for those |
22:47:26 | Zagor | by www/tools/buildall-manuals.pl |
22:47:45 | Zagor | what is the error? |
22:48:10 | gevaerts | The symptom is that the footer says "version rUnversioned directory-131125" |
22:48:22 | Zagor | aha |
22:48:25 | gevaerts | "Unversioned directory" seems to be an error from svnversion |
22:48:56 | wodz | bluebrother: What does "Project MESSAGE: Warning: unknown QT: widgets" warning emitted by qmake mean? |
22:54:14 | wodz | pamaury: Could this be related with my problem? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15791784/c-gtk-segfault-if-call-gtkfilechooser-after-calling-any-function |
22:54:47 | gevaerts | Zagor: I'm going to leave this to you. It seems to depend too much on exactly where the tree is and so on, so not much I can see |
22:55:04 | Zagor | yeah, I'll take a look |
22:56:32 | bluebrother | wodz: are you using Qt5? |
22:56:49 | wodz | bluebrother: no |
22:57:30 | bluebrother | hmm, I'm not getting any warning here |
22:58:18 | wodz | qt 4.8.1 default package for precise (LTS) |
22:58:24 | bluebrother | in the qmake file you have a variable QT. That defines which components of Qt are used. |
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22:58:48 | bluebrother | with Qt5 the widgets part became a separate component, i.e. you need to have QT += widgets in your pro file |
22:58:49 | wodz | yes, warning goes away if I remove this line but app still crashes |
22:59:01 | pamaury | wodz: indeed, it may be related to init of libxml2 outside of the main thread |
22:59:48 | pamaury | that's a weird restriction |
22:59:58 | wodz | pamaury: Actually xmlInitParser() seems to not be called at all |
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23:00:31 | pamaury | yeah that's what I'm seeing |
23:00:32 | wodz | but companion xmlCleanupParser() is |
23:00:35 | pamaury | very bad overlook |
23:02:04 | pamaury | but the examples on the website don't call it either |
23:02:12 | pamaury | ah they use LIBXML_TEST_VERSION |
23:03:12 | pamaury | wodz: can you try to add LIBXML_TEST_VERSION at the beginning of soc_desc_parse_xml() in utils/regtools/lib/soc_desc.cpp |
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23:03:23 | wodz | sure |
23:03:28 | pamaury | wait, it's already called no ? |
23:03:46 | wodz | called what? |
23:04:15 | pamaury | I think I already put this macro in the code so it does not explain the bug |
23:04:50 | wodz | ah, yes it is at the begining of soc_desc_parse_xml() |
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23:05:47 | pamaury | so the only issue I see is that Qt calls the code outside of the main thread |
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23:08:06 | wodz | I am not an expert here. I just did some googling and libxml2 ring the bell |
23:09:22 | pamaury | can you try to remove LIBXML_TEST_VERSION from soc_desc.cpp and put into the main() of qeditor ? |
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23:09:54 | wodz | ok |
23:12:02 | wodz | hmm it is a bit more complicated. I need to add some libxml2 include to main.cpp I guess |
23:13:54 | pamaury | yes |
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23:15:12 | wodz | still crashes |
23:18:57 | pamaury | hum |
23:18:59 | pamaury | same error ? |
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23:41:51 | wodz | pamaury: yes |
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23:43:03 | pamaury | wodz: and does it crash if you don't load an additional soc and load a regular dump ? |
23:43:26 | wodz | pamaury: no |
23:43:56 | pamaury | ok, so that's a good sign that's related to threading |
23:45:47 | pamaury | so in your case you have a trivial fix by putting the rk27xx soc desc in the desc/ directory so that's loaded on startup |
23:47:08 | wodz | Didn't think about it. But then how do I visualize the content of the file? I don't have any dumps yet |
23:47:30 | pamaury | just open a new tab |
23:47:45 | pamaury | it will show you the structure on the left panel |
23:47:59 | pamaury | and you can load dumps |
23:48:10 | pamaury | they don't use libxml2, only the description files do |
23:48:28 | pamaury | you file must be named regs-blabla.xml in desc/ |
23:49:34 | wodz | yeah it works that way |
23:50:51 | pamaury | good, that's not a perfect fix but at least you can work with it |
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23:52:50 | wodz | hmm, I can't unwind some of peripherials |
23:53:40 | pamaury | can you pastebin the xml ? |
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23:55:12 | wodz | http://pastie.org/8508433 |
23:56:34 | pamaury | which devices don't unfold ? |
23:58:00 | wodz | the block from GPIO0 to I2S inclusive |
23:58:24 | wodz | then ADC, GPIO1 and HDMA |