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#rockbox log for 2013-12-08

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00:49:59SuperBrainAKboy is my sansa clip zip being slow
00:51:04SuperBrainAKeverytime i connect it to the pc and try to copy a song or two it takes like 30 seconds to respond everytime i do something like opening a folder on the sd card and right clicking
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01:00:51SuperBrainAKi think it has been doing this for quite a while
01:01:39SuperBrainAKif i am managing a good bit of music i will take the SD card out and use a usb card reader
01:02:20[Saint]Out of interest, is the OF any better in this regard?
01:02:39SuperBrainAKhrm i havent tried that
01:02:44SuperBrainAKlets see
01:02:52[Saint]I know that throughput *sucks* on my Classics under Rockbox.
01:03:07[Saint]But there's no waiting on the disk.
01:03:38SuperBrainAKcould it be that it doesnt like having 24gigs of total memory?
01:04:12[Saint]I doubt it.
01:04:33SuperBrainAKnope OF works like a dream
01:05:08[Saint]Interesting.
01:05:15SuperBrainAKyep
01:05:18[Saint]Now, if only I knew what that meant... ;)
01:06:10SuperBrainAKthe OF is really fast at accessing it
01:06:47SuperBrainAKquestion is is only the SD card
01:07:45SuperBrainAKok now both are fast
01:07:52SuperBrainAKin RB
01:07:59SuperBrainAKboth internal and SD
01:08:22SuperBrainAKcould it be full ram?
01:09:40SuperBrainAKi played a song then connected it up it is still fast
01:11:03SuperBrainAKapparently i fixed it for now
01:29:05foolshpamaury: (logs) I've only heard crickets about the documentation g#689 so it must be good enough, I've added the touchpad section option to the tex files, we talked days ago about it, and g#689 is working as you would expect it to, which is just dandy. When they get merged, I'll finish the touchpad deadzone settings in the manual, as well.
01:29:08fs-bluebotGerrit review #689 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/689 : Docs: Manual entry for touchpad settings. by Benjamin Brown (changes/89/689/5)
01:29:08fs-bluebotGerrit review #689 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/689 : by Benjamin Brown (changes/89/689/5)
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01:30:51saratogafoolish: (for the logs) looks good to me, i'll push
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09:29:42lebelliumhum this touchpad sensitivity setting on Fuze+ is dangerous. Below 0 it no longuer recognizes my finger. I'm stuck at -10, I can't do anything now ahaha :D
09:30:56lebelliumAnd there is a typo in the new manual entry
09:30:58lebellium"Touchpad Senstivity."
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09:45:34pamaurylebellium: really ?
09:45:44pamauryI can go all the way down to -25 without problem
09:46:08pamauryhowever I seem to recall code in the OF which distinguish between two versions of the FW w.r.t to sensitivity
09:46:29pamaurylebellium: also what do you think about the dead zones patch ?
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10:17:12lebelliumpamaury: really. Well below 0 was a bit exaggerated but from -10 it's like the touchpad no longer works. I needed 5 minutes to change the setting again...
10:17:20lebelliumI haven't tried the dead zone patch
10:17:42copperme neither but I don't much like the sound of it
10:18:43coppersounds like it would make things harder, not easier, especially considering that the "zones" are invisible
10:20:21pamaurycopper: you can always set the deadzone to 0
10:20:35pamauryand I tried it and had no problem with it
10:21:13lebelliumbah I'm stuck at -12 again.... It's the last time I use the sensitivity setting :D
10:21:30pamaurylebellium: you can use power button to cancel I think
10:21:45pamaurylebellium: can you go into the debug screen: HW Info > Target
10:21:53pamauryand give me the "RMI: " line
10:22:18lebelliumno because I already pressed "select". And yes I can go to the debug screen but only once I can use the touchpad. Give me 5 minutes :)
10:23:03pamaurydelete the cfg file, it will reset the settings
10:23:06pamauryor edit it by hand
10:23:58pamauryin the mean time, I will check how OF distinguish between the two touchpads
10:24:13lebelliumok I got it. I needed to swipe my finger up very heavily and bit by bit I got back to default level 15 again :)
10:25:05lebelliumRMI: id=1533 p=B7 s=E
10:27:18coppersame RMI line here
10:28:57pamaurysame here :-/
10:29:11pamauryif I understand correctly the OF checks the second byte of the product id
10:30:39pamauryI need to check the spec
10:30:53lebelliumcopper: can you easily use the whole sensitivity scale or does it become totally unusable from -10 ?
10:31:27pamaurylebellium: in fact I agree with you, at -10 it's hardly usable ^^
10:31:43pamaurybut someone reported that -25 was fine
10:31:59pamaurywhich makes sense between the difference between the two touchpad models is ~13 "levels"
10:32:14copperlebellium: at 0 it's already very annoying to use
10:33:26pamauryI don't remember who tested the sensitivity setting, I need to check that
10:34:34lebelliumwould it be possible to have a conditional for that? Like if touchpad type 1 > first step -5 and if touchpad type 2 > first step -25
10:34:35lebellium?
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10:36:46pamaurywe can shift the actual setting depending on a conditional
10:38:28pamauryhum, I think what the OF checks is not that "1533" string but something else
10:39:52pamauryyeah it's something else, I will update the debug screen
10:40:10lebelliumwhat does RMI mean actually?
10:40:57pamauryit's the name of the protocol used to talk to the touchpad, I don't even remember what it stands for
10:41:15pamauryRegister Mapped Interface
10:41:15lebelliumok
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10:46:29lebelliumpamaury: for the typo in the manual, can you fix it or should I ask Benjamin Brown or Michael Giacomelli (who are they? f*cking real name policy, I only know nicknames!)
10:47:29pamauryhttp://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcNicks ;)
10:47:32pamauryI will fix the typo
10:51:03lebelliumpamaury: http://www.leboncoin.fr/image_son/583601444.htm?ca=12_s
10:53:33pamaurylol, the guy must have reposted it
10:54:03pamauryI never got an answer for the other one, I will try again
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11:13:33pamaurylebellium: just committed the typo fix and some updated debug screen
11:13:49pamaurywhen the build is finished can you go into the debug screen and give me your "product info"
11:14:04pamauryalso does rockbox crash after the touchpad debug screen on your device ?
11:15:27lebelliumyes
11:15:29lebelliumdata abort
11:16:37pamaurysame here, but I have no idea why
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11:19:23bertrikand again the "missing log file" in the build client, always seems to happen after building the ondavx767
11:21:18copperpamaury: same here
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11:26:44lebelliumpamaury: id=info=01020000
11:29:30pamaurysame here
11:29:58pamauryit is interesting, the OF checks 4th digit: if it's <=2 then it applies a 13 level shift to sensitivity
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11:33:26lebelliumyou should ask the guy who said it's usable at -25 :D
11:39:50pamaurymaybe it was Jean-Louis
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18:29:11lebelliumbluebrother: we forgot bertrik's work: Add support for Clip Zip v01.01.21 firmware :)
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21:02:56saratogakiwicam: yeah we discussed them yesterday
21:03:19saratogaits some weird cpu that probably can't run much of anything interesting
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23:07:02Waterpamaury: You still need help bisecting Fuze+ battery problem?
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23:08:38pamauryWater: no thanks, the problem is solved, as far as I know :)
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