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| 00:48:29 | kugel | my work was quite a ram size win |
| 00:49:33 | kugel | this is because previously the line buffer for scrolling was per-line |
| 00:49:55 | kugel | now there is a single one, and it gets re-used in a whole-display scroll cycle |
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| 00:50:48 | kugel | gevaerts: recorder build broken again |
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| 00:53:49 | [Saint] | Well done, Sir. Well done. |
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| 01:52:40 | chrisjj | Hmmm... I cant find the Creative Zen X-Fi3 in the current RButil, V1.3.1. Is it just me? |
| 01:56:25 | [Saint] | That would be intentional. |
| 01:57:06 | [Saint] | AFAIK the only unusable target that appears there is the Classic, and I'm not too fond of that to be honest. |
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| 01:58:01 | [Saint] | It seems wrong to offer a way to update Rockbox on a target where installation is totally unsupported. But, mah. |
| 01:58:07 | [Saint] | *meh |
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| 02:16:54 | chrisjj | [Saint]: OK, thanks. BTW, which is this unusable Classic? If you refer to iPod Classic (iPod 6g), well that too does not show for me: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9573/af05.png |
| 02:17:48 | [Saint] | Well..you'll also notice that you don't have "Show disabled targets" checked. |
| 02:18:11 | chrisjj | :) Thanks. |
| 02:26:39 | chrisjj | Does Rockbox Utility have a designated maintainer? None is mentioned in docs/MAINTAINERS. |
| 02:32:28 | [Saint] | bluebrother |
| 02:35:42 | chrisjj | Thanks. |
| 02:35:49 | chrisjj | bluebrother: see above :) |
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| 02:39:17 | [Saint] | I'm unsure of what you think needs attention. |
| 02:39:50 | chrisjj | MAINTAINERS. |
| 02:40:28 | [Saint] | There's nothing stopping you from adding it. |
| 02:40:42 | chrisjj | Sure about that? |
| 02:40:52 | [Saint] | Absolutely. |
| 02:42:41 | chrisjj | Thanks. I see so many amends that apparently all the Devs have been apparently stopped from making, that I wonder. |
| 02:43:44 | chrisjj | bluebrother: If you're around, you might like to know the "Read the manual" links for Archos Jukebox Recorder v2 (20GB) are broken. |
| 02:44:27 | [Saint] | I mean this in the nicest possible way, but, sometimes, most of the time, I have no idea what you're talking about. Or if you do. |
| 02:45:45 | chrisjj | If you try those links, you'll know what I mean. |
| 02:46:12 | [Saint] | I'm not talking about that. I mean all these devs that have apparently been shut down. |
| 02:46:26 | [Saint] | That's flatly untrue. |
| 02:48:20 | chrisjj | OK, I guess they all have better things to do that e.g. maintain MAINTAiNERS. |
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| 02:52:27 | chrisjj | BTW, are archived Rockbox Manual builds available anywhere? I find see the archived code builds, but not any Manual builds. |
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| 02:54:31 | [Saint] | I don't think so. |
| 02:54:36 | [Saint] | I doubt it makes much sense. |
| 02:55:16 | [Saint] | The manual very rarely changes. Not enough that it makes sense to offer ~3 archived builds. ~99% of the time they'd be identical. |
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| 03:01:10 | chrisjj | " don't think so." OK, thanks. |
| 03:01:46 | chrisjj | " ~99% of the time they'd be identical." Not if they were the last three changed versions. :) |
| 03:03:06 | [Saint] | Those archived builds are provided purely for convenience. The general view is that if you want a specific version, you'll build it. |
| 03:05:24 | [Saint] | There are very rarely ever cases where there will be a change which means a new manual will no longer apply to an older build. Very rarely. |
| 03:05:54 | [Saint] | Worst usual case is that the new manual will simply list features the old one doesn't. The rest should still apply. |
| 03:07:24 | [Saint] | unless you're talking about extreme cases where either the manual or the binary is /drastically/ older than the other, it shouldn't be an issue. |
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| 03:17:29 | chrisjj | I want to cite a specific page, so I need a permalink to a fixed copy. But no matter. Thanks. |
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| 09:30:10 | lolcats_ | yo, recently i installed rockbox on a 6th gen ipod, however when i first boot into rockbox i receive the message "loading rockbox.ipod failed! trying fallback image..." . |
| 09:30:38 | lolcats_ | as such i can put media onto the device but when i try to play anything it does not work |
| 09:30:54 | lolcats_ | anyone else have this issue? any imput would help thanks |
| 09:31:16 | [Saint] | That just means you didn't follow the instructions through and forgot the actually load a Rockbox binary onto the device. |
| 09:31:35 | [Saint] | *to actually |
| 09:32:04 | lolcats_ | the rockbox.ipod and rockbox files are on the device |
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| 09:32:10 | lolcats_ | should i just start fromt he beginning? |
| 09:32:11 | [Saint] | http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipod6g.zip <−− extract this .zip to the root of the device |
| 09:32:27 | [Saint] | Oh. Hmmm. I see. |
| 09:32:55 | [Saint] | That points to the filesystem being corrupt then, one guesses. |
| 09:34:31 | lolcats_ | k extracting that zip to the root. ill let you know if it fixws it |
| 09:34:34 | lolcats_ | fixes* |
| 09:35:26 | [Saint] | Sorry, my answer was a little hasty (the symptom you described is a regular user error). |
| 09:35:47 | [Saint] | If the files are actually there, then, that changes things. |
| 09:36:17 | lolcats_ | i just replaced them with the files from the link you provided and everything is fine now. |
| 09:36:21 | lolcats_ | you are a wizard sir. |
| 09:36:52 | [Saint] | You should still inspect the filesystem, otherwise there's every chance this may continue to happen. |
| 09:37:18 | [Saint] | And it might choose to chew up and spit out data you care about next time. |
| 09:37:32 | [Saint] | ("it" being "the filesystem corruption goblin") |
| 09:37:43 | [Saint] | {they're very real...} |
| 09:38:08 | lolcats_ | ill be on guard |
| 09:38:11 | lolcats_ | thank you sir |
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| 17:38:03 | Szczepancio | lebellium: Have you done any work on e370 series? |
| 17:38:40 | Szczepancio | After my absence. |
| 17:42:28 | lebellium | Szczepancio: I don't do anything, I'm not a dev :) |
| 17:42:47 | lebellium | pamaury is |
| 17:44:10 | Szczepancio | I know that pamaury is an dev :) |
| 17:44:23 | lebellium | So why do you ask me? :) |
| 17:44:38 | Szczepancio | Because pamaury said you is interested in keymapping. |
| 17:44:57 | Szczepancio | I thinked that you did something or so. |
| 17:45:05 | Szczepancio | I was thinking* |
| 17:45:16 | lebellium | Yes I reworked the keymapping as I already told you last time |
| 17:45:36 | Szczepancio | But no plugin mapping, yup? |
| 17:45:40 | Szczepancio | Do you have an e370? |
| 17:45:47 | lebellium | and as I also told you last time I'm not interested in doing the plugins keymapping |
| 17:45:54 | lebellium | I have a E360 |
| 17:46:03 | Szczepancio | But I was thinking you made a change :) But you didn't. |
| 17:46:31 | Szczepancio | It's not bad at all. |
| 17:47:37 | lebellium | As pamaury is working on dozens of targets at the same time, I don't believe he will work on the NWZ plugins keymapping anytime soon. If you want it done, you should consider doing it yourself! |
| 17:47:54 | Szczepancio | I can it make done, but on e470. But no hack avalibe. |
| 17:48:24 | Szczepancio | I can done it on e370 too, but I am too no interested it in. |
| 17:51:29 | lebellium | E470 may have raw nand like E440, which makes the port difficult. Pamaury is trying to reverse the FTL but no luck so far |
| 17:52:39 | Szczepancio | What is FTL? |
| 17:53:25 | lebellium | I guess Flash Translation Layer? |
| 17:53:31 | lebellium | Not sure though |
| 17:54:14 | Szczepancio | Yep, it is it. |
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| 18:03:11 | lebellium | Szczepancio: And I don't know if you already noticed it, but the battery life has been improved with the November, 30th build. On E360 it is now 20hrs instead of 10hrs. |
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| 18:17:20 | Szczepancio | lebellium: Interesing. |
| 18:18:47 | Szczepancio | lebellium: On E370 is the same? |
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| 18:19:38 | TheSzczepancio | brb |
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| 18:19:45 | lebellium | yes it should be the same |
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| 18:20:06 | TheSzczepancio | Ok, lebellium, can you say - on e370 is the same? |
| 18:21:23 | lebellium | yes |
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| 18:39:23 | TheSzczepancio | brb |
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| 20:26:13 | pamaury | The E470 is linux based so completely different, and no I haven't made progress on the keymaps, I didn't have much time and spent it on more useful stuff |
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| 20:46:49 | pamaury | I need to build a usb current measurement tool to hunt this battery life problem |
| 20:47:20 | lebellium | on NWZ? |
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| 20:49:12 | pamaury | yes |
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| 20:54:24 | saratoga | pamaury: you mean a current meter and a USB cable? |
| 20:54:47 | saratoga | heh, banning tiolan.net from the forums blocked 893 spammers in the last few days |
| 20:54:48 | pamaury | something like this yeah, I hope it's sufficiently precise |
| 20:55:00 | pamaury | any advise ? |
| 20:55:08 | saratoga | i think a normal DMM should be fine |
| 20:55:11 | saratoga | they are quite cheap |
| 20:55:37 | saratoga | it will only give you the time averaged power wiht maybe 1 second resolution, but that should be fine |
| 20:56:16 | saratoga | for a little more, you can also buy banna plugs that fit into the DMM, and then solder the other end into a cheap USB extension cable |
| 20:56:33 | saratoga | maybe 20-30 USD total |
| 20:56:49 | pamaury | DMM ? |
| 20:56:57 | saratoga | digital multi meter |
| 20:57:00 | [Saint] | It seems like it'd be easier to hack up a cable and use a multimeter. |
| 20:57:01 | pamaury | ah ^^ |
| 20:57:19 | [Saint] | or, I could look up what DMM is... ;) |
| 20:57:59 | * | [Saint] admits to never having heard it referred to in that way before |
| 20:58:49 | pamaury | first I need to find a culprit cable and cut it ^^ |
| 20:59:47 | saratoga | in the USA, amazon has them for a dollar or two |
| 20:59:54 | saratoga | i would order both together |
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| 21:00:15 | saratoga | DMM + 1m USB extension cable + banana plugs |
| 21:00:18 | [Saint] | Whoah, expensive. |
| 21:00:48 | [Saint] | I can make up cables for about $0.80NZD/m |
| 21:01:07 | [Saint] | but I guess it depends what your time and effort is worth too... |
| 21:01:16 | saratoga | alternatively, if you an ADC of some kind that is DC coupled you can make your own |
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| 21:04:55 | saratoga | http://www.amazon.com/Mastech-MS8268-Digital-Manual-Multimeter/dp/B0050LVFS0 |
| 21:05:00 | saratoga | bit more expensive but well rated |
| 21:11:00 | saratoga | cheaper and highly rated: http://www.amazon.com/INNOVA-3300-Hands-free-Digital-Multimeter/dp/B001O1X65A/ref=pd_sbs_indust_2#productDetails |
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| 21:16:34 | saratoga | found my old opus profile results from last year: http://pastie.org/4908106 |
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| 21:16:52 | * | pamaury does not know what DC coupled mean |
| 21:17:17 | [Saint] | saratoga: is there anything interesting to cram back into our sources from Opus? |
| 21:17:29 | [Saint] | Or is it mostly needless (to us) cruft? |
| 21:17:39 | saratoga | pamaury: able to measure a DC voltage |
| 21:17:58 | saratoga | most audio ADCs have a capacitor, so they can only measure 20Hz and up |
| 21:18:39 | saratoga | [Saint]: i don't know, but the tests I did before suggests something like 70% of the runtime was just hte transform step, and it doesn't look liek much has changed there |
| 21:21:43 | pamaury | saratoga: does a circuit with a resistor in series with vddd and an adc to measure the voltage drop accross with <insert random arduino/arm board with ADC> provides reliable measurements ? |
| 21:21:59 | [Saint] | I have played with it briefly on the raspi, but, the analogue out on it is just *sooooo* shit. |
| 21:22:17 | saratoga | pamaury: yes, although the votlage drop will be relatively small so you might need an opamp too |
| 21:22:29 | [Saint] | And its too much effort to swap around the inputs on my amp. |
| 21:22:44 | saratoga | although i guess if the A/D isn't bad you might be ok |
| 21:23:00 | [Saint] | HDMI audio is superb, but, the analogue out is awful. Rather sad really. |
| 21:23:06 | pamaury | the best I have is 12-bit adc on my stellaris board I think |
| 21:23:22 | saratoga | the voltage drop across the shunt resistor drops the voltage to the player, so you probably don't want to have more than a few hundred millivolts to measure |
| 21:23:57 | pamaury | sure |
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| 21:24:48 | pamaury | the simplest method still is the digital multimeter one, I have one somewhere of relatively good quality |
| 21:24:55 | saratoga | this board? http://users.ece.utexas.edu/~valvano/EE345M/LM3S8962_ADC.pdf |
| 21:25:32 | pamaury | yes, I think so |
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| 21:26:45 | saratoga | that looks like it'd probably work if you picked the shunt resistor right |
| 21:26:51 | saratoga | i'd use a DMM though |
| 21:26:57 | saratoga | no reason not to |
| 21:27:05 | saratoga | unless you want higher time resolution for some reason |
| 21:28:34 | pamaury | I'll try and see, thanks |
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| 21:30:21 | saratoga | fwiw, i used a < 100 USD DMM recently at work for measuring power to an AC motor running at KHz with just a few mA of current and it worked quite well |
| 21:30:45 | saratoga | for what you are doing the currents will be large and slowly varying, so the measurement will not be very demanding of the hardware |
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| 21:57:27 | saratoga_ | bluebrother: is there any reason we couldn't do an rbutil release soon? Its been a while since there was a stable and your current development builds are a large improvement over the current release |
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| 22:10:22 | [Saint] | saratoga_: ...any chance of getting the button pushed on g#626 you think? |
| 22:10:24 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #626 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/626 : DSP Compressor: Sidechain, Exponential Atk/Rls by Ryan Billing (changes/26/626/4) |
| 22:10:48 | saratoga_ | i was hoping i wouldn't have to do it because if it breaks something i can never figure out how to fix with git |
| 22:11:07 | [Saint] | Ah. |
| 22:11:25 | saratoga_ | i guess i can |
| 22:11:36 | saratoga_ | have you compiled it recently? |
| 22:12:44 | Szczepancio | pamaury: Just interested, what distro of Linux you are using for developing? |
| 22:12:56 | [Saint] | saratoga_: I have, yes. |
| 22:13:06 | saratoga_ | no wanrings or conflicts? |
| 22:13:38 | [Saint] | I'll re-check, better safe than sorry. |
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| 22:20:33 | [Saint] | I built a variety of targets (which took ages for some reason), all is well in the world. |
| 22:20:52 | [Saint] | Apologies for the delay, there is unusually high CPU/IO usage on my server. |
| 22:21:30 | lebellium | I remember someone said some time ago the new compressor made playback laggy on his player but I can't find the logs :( |
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| 22:22:06 | [Saint] | I'm guessing that would be on PP, and almost certainly with a lot of other stupid settings applied. |
| 22:22:52 | saratoga_ | yeah the benchmarks look quite good, less than 3 MHz speed hit on PP |
| 22:23:03 | saratoga_ | thats basically nothing |
| 22:23:44 | saratoga_ | ok i'll push the button on this |
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| 22:24:18 | [Saint] | This one was really one I was hoping you'd be around for. |
| 22:24:27 | [Saint] | You do seem to be "codec guy", after all. |
| 22:25:00 | [Saint] | ...which is probably why it sat there for so long, few willing to touch it in case it unleashed demons. |
| 22:26:13 | saratoga_ | i actually only do the codecs, the DSP is completely separate |
| 22:26:19 | saratoga_ | jhmikes is the DSP expert |
| 22:26:34 | * | [Saint] makes notes |
| 22:26:52 | [Saint] | I have a "people to bug about <>" list. :) |
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| 22:27:48 | [Saint] | I haven't seen JhMikes around for a while. |
| 22:28:11 | [Saint] | Last I saw of him he dropped a *massive* FAT rework on gerrit and basically disappeared. |
| 22:28:31 | [Saint] | I really should get that compiling again. |
| 22:28:49 | saratoga_ | he comes and goes, usually with a gigantic patch |
| 22:28:57 | saratoga_ | been doing that since before i was here |
| 22:29:14 | saratoga_ | of course now that I commit i notice this: "Max number of samples to delay960 output (960 = 5ms @ 192 kHz)" |
| 22:29:17 | [Saint] | In my experience, that seems to be the guy's style. A bit of a lone wolf. Come in, drop a massive rework on us, and disappear quietly until next time. |
| 22:30:20 | saratoga_ | ah no, the comment is misleading, much larger delays are allowed |
| 22:30:44 | [Saint] | where are we? |
| 22:30:48 | [Saint] | Oh. Ah. yes. |
| 22:31:07 | saratoga_ | [Saint]: can you try the compressor with the maximum attack time? |
| 22:31:18 | saratoga_ | and the sample rate set to 48khz |
| 22:31:53 | saratoga_ | 48khz times 30 milliseconds is 1440 samples, but the buffer is less than that |
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| 22:32:56 | saratoga_ | ah theres a check for this case, so it simply caps you at the maximum delay allowed for your sampling rate |
| 22:34:16 | [Saint] | There's a tiny bit of initial lag in the fallback (due to the peak meters I believe), but, all is well. |
| 22:34:37 | [Saint] | 48kHz content, -3dB threshold, maximum attack time. |
| 22:34:57 | [Saint] | (320mp3 CBR) |
| 22:35:06 | [Saint] | ...on PP. |
| 22:35:36 | saratoga_ | the buffer is only long enough for 21 milliseconds of history at 44.1k, i wonder why the setting goes to 30 ms |
| 22:36:09 | [Saint] | SO, do we increase the allowable buffer, or decrease the allowable attack time? |
| 22:37:15 | * | [Saint] apologizes for not catching this |
| 22:37:28 | [Saint] | I have a massive case of the guilts right now. |
| 22:38:04 | [Saint] | ...but, if JhMikes didn't, I guess I can rest a bit easier. |
| 22:38:27 | saratoga_ | i'm not sure |
| 22:38:54 | saratoga_ | i think it actually does change things if you set the delay longer than the buffer |
| 22:39:07 | saratoga_ | i don't fully understand the algorithm here |
| 22:39:08 | lebellium | [Saint] saratoga http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20131120 look for "Narod" |
| 22:39:51 | saratoga_ | i'm tempted to cap the compressor at 25 milliseconds just because it'll be less unpredictable |
| 22:40:23 | [Saint] | lebellium: Hmmmm...odd. |
| 22:40:49 | [Saint] | I can't speak for that user, but, I can say that I am currently testing one of the worst possible cases for this, and, its absolutely fine here. |
| 22:41:17 | saratoga_ | yeah i think it works fine, i just suspect that 25 and 30 ms do essentially the same thing |
| 22:41:45 | saratoga_ | actually the buffer is exactly 20 ms at 48k, so that might be a sensible maximum |
| 22:41:46 | [Saint] | compressor+3 bands of EQ with 48kHz content...on 80MHz PP |
| 22:42:07 | [Saint] | I would expect that to show any failure cases or lag, were it going to. |
| 22:42:57 | saratoga_ | in this case it doesn't fail, the code checks for out of bounds, its just misleading since it'll adjust the gain but not actually look further than abotu 20-22 ms |
| 22:43:06 | saratoga_ | not sure how that sounds |
| 22:43:29 | [Saint] | If that's the case, then we should cap the attack lookahead. |
| 22:44:00 | [Saint] | Well...that's my feeling, but if you have a better solution. |
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| 22:45:56 | [Saint] | Its a nice feature, and I think it agreeable that it is wanted, but I also believe that if it is misleading any any way or form as to its abilities that should be addressed. |
| 22:46:22 | [Saint] | Again, I apologize for not catching this myself. |
| 22:46:40 | [Saint] | I only checked it functioned and the code was sound, not that all the math made sense. |
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| 22:50:58 | [Saint] | lebellium: there's also a high chance that user's issues were caused by the current state of the target used |
| 22:51:29 | [Saint] | At this stage now I wouldn't expect the 360 to be anywhere near perfect. Let alone then. |
| 22:51:40 | lebellium | [Saint]: well, I have the E360 myself so I could try and confirm or not what the user says. But I don't even know what a DSP compressor is for :D |
| 22:52:27 | [Saint] | It would've been helpful to grab his config.cfg to look at, but, nevermind. |
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| 22:52:48 | lebellium | I'll have a look on my E360 tonight or tomorrow and I'll let you know |
| 22:52:55 | [Saint] | At this stage I'm just going to believe it was a target specific anomaly. |
| 22:54:11 | [Saint] | I have a few PP targets to test on here, and they certainly _should_ show these types of issues, were they going to happen. There's very little room for DSP effects on these targets. |
| 22:54:46 | lebellium | [Saint] even though it's a new port, it's close to Fuze+ with a STMP3780 so I don't see why there would be any issue on NWZ |
| 22:55:04 | pamaury | what is the issue here ? |
| 22:55:14 | lebellium | see my link above pamaury |
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| 22:56:01 | [Saint] | 15:09NarodOh, now that I see the e360 being mentioned: The new compressor seems to cause a few issues on the e360. |
| 22:56:01 | [Saint] | 15:10NarodI pulled the current repo and applied the patch and it built successfully. But after a couple of songs the audio playback starts skipping (plays 1 - 2 seconds, then pauses for another 2 seconds) and the device becomes unresponsive until I reset it. |
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| 22:59:09 | [Saint] | By my understanding, the 360/70 is a fairly capale target, no? |
| 22:59:13 | [Saint] | HW-wise. |
| 22:59:34 | [Saint] | At least comparable or better than the PP iPods? |
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| 23:00:13 | [Saint] | (With DSP related stuff, I like to test on PP as there's such little "wiggle room" there) |
| 23:00:26 | pamaury | yeah it's very powerful |
| 23:00:54 | [Saint] | Right. So that makes very little sense. |
| 23:00:56 | [Saint] | Hmmm. |
| 23:01:35 | pamaury | 450MHz armv5 |
| 23:02:21 | [Saint] | If we start getting a bunch of complaints, I guess we'll know. But I suspect there's going to be few cases that can compete with PP using compressor and EQ with 48KHz content. |
| 23:02:46 | [Saint] | And if that does happen, I would question the sanity of the user's config. |
| 23:03:40 | [Saint] | 450MHz? Aha...so, just a /tiny/ bit more powerful than the PP iPods then? ;) |
| 23:04:13 | saratoga_ | everything is more powerful than the ipods |
| 23:04:29 | saratoga_ | arm7 is almost as old as i am |
| 23:09:30 | [Saint] | Wait...wha? |
| 23:09:39 | [Saint] | Wasn't it like, '94 or so? |
| 23:09:53 | saratoga_ | ah yeah, was thinking 1990 for some reason |
| 23:09:59 | saratoga_ | but yeah, almost 20 years old |
| 23:10:13 | [Saint] | Came in with the Risc PC, iirc. |
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| 23:10:39 | [Saint] | well...came in to popularity. |
| 23:10:42 | [Saint] | (somewhat) |
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| 23:47:09 | lebellium | hum on my E360 I see: Threshold: Makeup Gain, Ratio, Knee, Attack Time, Release Time. The commit comment says "sidechain filtering" and "look-ahead". Where's that? (yes, I don't understand anything about the compressor, sorry :S ) |
| 23:51:51 | lebellium | ah ok |
| 23:51:57 | lebellium | those are not settings |
| 23:52:00 | lebellium | but "features" |
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