00:02:29 | JdGordon | whats this $ printing? |
00:04:27 | kugel | JdGordon: see apps/gui/line.h |
00:10:48 | toehser1 | Seems fixed. At least, 10 minutes of trying to break in on the player, I couldn't break it. |
00:12:47 | kugel | toehser1: nice, we havent heard such a thing in a long time |
00:13:32 | gevaerts | :) |
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00:14:24 | toehser1 | New weird behavior: Some of the scrolling fields seem to "stop being scrolling fields" after a while... |
00:15:13 | toehser1 | Right now, I'm looking at a display with 5 fields too long and %s ... 1-2-3 are no longer scrolling, but 4-5 are still scrolling. |
00:15:40 | toehser1 | And that is staying, when I switch songs, still the same ones no longer seem to be scroll-fields. |
00:16:08 | toehser1 | Going back to the menu / back to now playing restored scrolling in all fields. |
00:16:21 | kugel | still with tomsway2 theme? |
00:16:26 | toehser1 | yep |
00:16:54 | toehser1 | Seems to be after several song changes, the scrolling stops on lines 1-2-3 |
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00:17:10 | toehser1 | the title-artist-album lines |
00:17:32 | toehser1 | Hitting menu-now playing restores it |
00:17:40 | toehser1 | reproducable so far |
00:19:01 | toehser1 | Now I got it to freeze only the first 2 lines, the other 3 are scrolling. |
00:19:45 | toehser1 | Any navigation to a menu and back to the WPS resets it to working right. |
00:21:27 | toehser1 | The last 2 never seem to fail though. |
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00:21:45 | toehser1 | I wonder if it is because they have the alignment tags before the scroll tag? |
00:21:56 | toehser1 | Could it matter, %ac%s vs %s%ac ? |
00:22:24 | JdGordon | no |
00:22:50 | toehser1 | Btw, there's still a USB bug... ijs |
00:22:52 | JdGordon | alignement and scrolling dont work together |
00:23:12 | JdGordon | if the line fits it wont scroll and will align, if it doesnt fit it will scroll without alignment |
00:23:49 | pamaury | wodz (logs): I don't understand your point about .init: the script put at ENDAUDIOADDR |
00:24:02 | toehser1 | Well, this is obviously a way lower priority than the others - weird, but, only slightly irritating, compared to the segfaults. |
00:24:03 | pamaury | which means the audio buffer will overwrite the .init section and thus reclaim its spacE... |
00:24:45 | pamaury | .init should not overlap with .bss, that would be a complete failure, you need to overlap with something used *after* init |
00:24:51 | toehser1 | I'll see if I see this in the sim too. |
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01:18:30 | Rhinosaur | Hey, I have a problem with rockbox on my sansa clip+. When I turn it on the ''loading'' symbol appears in the top right and does not go away. Then when I go to my database and select ''artist'' or anything else it just freezes. |
01:18:42 | Rhinosaur | Does anyone know how to fix this perhaps? |
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01:23:51 | JdGordon | Rhinosaur: proabbyl filesystem corruption |
01:26:07 | Rhinosaur | Alright, I suppose reinstalling would help then right? Thanks for the help anyway. |
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01:27:59 | JdGordon | Rhinosaur: well no |
01:28:07 | JdGordon | do a filesystem scan on your PC |
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07:03:55 | plain-user | Hello friends! Video IPOD here, using rockbox on it for a year and a half or so. Happy like an elephant, thank you guys! Although I have noticed that it is becoming slow lately. Especially after I have deleted all the files from it and re-creted my directory structure. Currently it is almost empty, but still takes time to navigate the files both within the player and as you browse the file system from a computer. Also |
07:03:56 | plain-user | i noticed it does not handle large video files well (tried to load some lectures recently). Having said that, I would like to ask a couple of questions. 1) How to cleanup the device? Trash-reconfigure the settings, fsck of some sort, reinstall altogether? OR the HDD is simply dying and is having bad blocks? 2) How can I update (if needed at all) the codecs so that it reads my lectures of .random format from the interne |
07:03:56 | plain-user | t (some files don't get read properly, sound goes choppy half way the 40 minute file). Great thanks! |
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07:06:42 | [Saint] | I am unsure what you mean by "how can I update the codecs" |
07:06:52 | [Saint] | This isn't possible at all. |
07:07:49 | plain-user | [Saint]: ok, not a problem, i will convert the necessary files. How about the 1st question? =) |
07:07:52 | scorche` | plain-user: well, you can always try a check of the disk through your operating system |
07:08:06 | scorche` | updating the codecs is done by just updating Rockbox |
07:08:28 | [Saint] | The behavior you describe does sound somewhat like it would be worth checking the filesystem for errors. As for as not being able to play certain random file types, you could always transcode to a file type we do support. |
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07:09:48 | plain-user | Alright, well i happen to be on a unix like os atm, how can i safely check it, just fsck /dev/sdc2? |
07:10:03 | scorche` | that'll work |
07:12:09 | plain-user | The audio part of the file was read ok, just not the video. But i didnt needed it really. The sound went choppy as if the playback is being paused and the resumed in 0.5s again. |
07:12:15 | plain-user | /dev/sdc2: 610 files, 73792/1825497 clusters - that it? )) |
07:13:02 | scorche` | well, Rockbox's video playing capabilities are quite limited |
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07:13:58 | scorche` | you are likely best off demuxing the audio off into a separate file, though that is getting off-topic for this channel |
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07:23:38 | plain-user | Ok! Thank you for the answers. |
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07:44:13 | wodz | pamaury: You are not right WRT .init and .bss overlap. The seqence is as follows: 1) .init section is copied to codecbuffer 2) following noload sections (.stack .bss ...) overlap .init . See imx31 app.lds for details (hint see the address rewinding of .stack). In imx233 linker script there is no sections overlap at all so while you copy off .init to some other place you do not reclaim the space. |
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11:19:48 | wodz | pamaury: see my comment about app.lds |
11:25:39 | pamaury | wodz: I still don't understand your comment |
11:25:55 | pamaury | both .init and .codecbuf are at ENDAUDIOADDR |
11:26:07 | pamaury | sorry .codec |
11:26:38 | * | wodz looks |
11:28:05 | pamaury | maybe I'm missing something but I'm under the impression that it behaves as expected |
11:28:40 | pamaury | the imx31 does it exactly the same way |
11:28:54 | pamaury | except it uses an extra memory region but in the end it does the same trick |
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11:37:56 | wodz | pamaury: http://pastebin.com/k8SQQsc0 (readelf of f+ build) - segment 03 is .init with PhyAddr 0x600aec44 and size 0x01f40, .stack is placed at 0x600b0b84 (hint 0x600aec44 + 0x1f40) - so the memory occupied by .init IS not reclaimed |
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11:46:03 | SovonHalder | would anyone please look at this ? |
11:46:06 | SovonHalder | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,45688.msg224092.html#msg224092 |
11:47:03 | pamaury | wodz: ah yes you're right, I forgot to move the stack/bss segment down |
11:47:12 | wodz | :-) |
11:47:15 | gevaerts | SovonHalder: that looks suspiciously like a bug I fixed a few days ago |
11:47:47 | SovonHalder | holy shit.. |
11:48:04 | wodz | pamaury: if you rearange things a bit you could also reclaim space for .itext |
11:48:08 | SovonHalder | I just updated rockbox & when I disconnected the usb, I got the exact same error |
11:48:39 | SovonHalder | normally rockbox asks fot a reboot permission but now my iPod is frozen on that panic screen |
11:48:43 | SovonHalder | what should I do ? |
11:49:22 | gevaerts | Just reset it, and if the new version isn't installed properly, use the fallback image from the emcore menu to try again |
11:50:08 | SovonHalder | I hold pressed the menu & play..it rebooted |
11:50:26 | pamaury | wodz: you're right again ^^ |
11:50:27 | SovonHalder | the system infro also shows current version..should I still be worried ? |
11:50:33 | gevaerts | You were unlucky though, the version you had was just a few hours after that bug was introduced, so if you had installed just half a day earlier, you'd never have seen it :)_ |
11:52:52 | SovonHalder | you guys do the heavy works. I will never complain about a bug rather than reporting it..but NOW..i am using 837cad0-140109 |
11:52:59 | SovonHalder | do I need to do anything now ? |
11:55:51 | SovonHalder | ????? |
11:56:29 | wodz | SovonHalder: sorry, I don't understand what you mean |
11:57:04 | SovonHalder | I mean my iPod. Do I need to do anything else like updating ..rebooting etc.. ?? |
11:58:15 | wodz | SovonHalder: there was quite a bug squash party yesterday so running current build is recommended in your case |
11:58:18 | wodz | thats all |
11:58:34 | SovonHalder | thank you.. |
11:58:51 | SovonHalder | Long Live Rockbox..Long Live Humanity... |
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12:01:07 | SovonHalder | BTW, I wanted to ask a dummy question..how do I know if my rockbox is properly installed ? |
12:03:03 | wodz | If it works it is properly installed |
12:05:54 | SovonHalder | Okay..thanks.. :) |
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12:23:32 | wodz | any objections to unify coldfire lds scripts? |
12:33:03 | pamaury | wodz: if you are very courageous, you can try to unify the arm lds scripts, which would be a good idea but not so easy I think |
12:37:08 | wodz | pamaury: I'd rather not touch this |
12:38:53 | wodz | pamaury: there are considerable differences between various arm systems while coldfires are virtually the same (with the only notable exception of MCF5249 vs MCF5250 iram size) |
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15:28:01 | wodz | gevaerts: ping |
15:28:38 | PurlingNayuki | JdGordon: Fixed a stupid bug today and no more time to refactory volume limiter with CUSTOM_SETTING() :( |
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15:34:44 | gevaerts | wodz: pong |
15:37:41 | wodz | gevaerts: Currently linker scripts are at fixed location: RAMLDS := $(FIRMDIR)/target/$(CPU)/$(MANUFACTURER)/app.lds. Is it possible to check hierarchically the presence of app.lds? I mean first check if $(FIRMDIR)/target/$(CPU)/$(MANUFACTURER)/app.lds is present and if so use this otherwise use $(FIRMDIR)/target/$(CPU)/app.lds |
15:37:59 | gevaerts | Hmmmm |
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15:38:04 | gevaerts | Almost certainly :) |
15:43:17 | wodz | gevaerts: how to do that? |
15:45:13 | pamaury | wodz: you can use a if conditional to set RAMLDS I think |
15:46:12 | pamaury | there is a trick with wildcard: |
15:46:12 | pamaury | ifeq ($(wildcard <path to file>,)) |
15:46:12 | pamaury | RAMLDS = blabla |
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15:46:12 | pamaury | else |
15:46:12 | pamaury | RAMLDS = bliblibli |
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15:46:17 | pamaury | endif |
15:46:29 | gevaerts | Possibly vpath |
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15:49:03 | * | gevaerts isn't sure |
15:49:47 | pamaury | VPATH is not really a great idea but there is a clear priority in the choice here |
15:49:57 | pamaury | but /me isn't a Makefile expert |
15:50:03 | pamaury | s/but/because |
15:50:09 | gevaerts | pamaury: vpath and VPATH aren't the same :) |
15:50:35 | gevaerts | https://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/html_node/Selective-Search.html#Selective-Search |
15:51:19 | pamaury | ah, could work then |
15:54:26 | wodz | thats beyond my ability to wrap head around I am afraid |
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16:00:53 | pamaury | the ifeq solution is probably simpler |
16:01:09 | wodz | ifeq ($(wildcard $(FIRMDIR)/target/$(CPU)/$(MANUFACTURER)/app.lds,)) returns *** invalid syntax in conditional. |
16:01:50 | pamaury | ah yeah, small typo: ifeq ($(wildcard <path>),) |
16:01:59 | wodz | ah |
16:04:46 | wodz | ok, that works |
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16:17:08 | wodz | g#713 - tests welcome. I compared rockbox.map before and after change and everything looks ok |
16:17:10 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #713 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/713 : by Marcin Bukat (changes/13/713/1) |
16:19:55 | wodz | I mean I compared for iaudio x5, m3, iriver h100 and mpio hd300 |
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18:06:31 | chrisjj | pamaury: Battery info update carried to http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/bin/compare/Main/TargetStatus?rev1=330;rev2=331 . Wouldn't it be nice for the port capability tables to be common-sourced? :) |
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18:20:54 | pamaury | that would be a pain, not all port pages display the same information, use different formats |
18:21:17 | pamaury | port characteristics only change in the development phase so I don't think that's a real issue |
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18:22:15 | pamaury | thanks for the update anyway :) |
18:23:26 | chrisjj | Unnderstood, though that solvable, and note the master page does show same info in same format. |
18:23:31 | chrisjj | pamaury: at http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TargetStatus I propose to downgrade USB, Display, Button/Touchpad from Yes to Partial, and upgrade Dual Boot to Yes - to accord with the tests results of myself and others. |
18:23:53 | chrisjj | For Creative ZEN and Creative ZEN X-Fi. |
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18:34:43 | pamaury | hum, why button/touchpad ? and usb ? And dual-boot doesn't really work because of the file system limitation. The port has huge stability problem because of power management probably. |
18:34:57 | pamaury | I have some potential fixes on track |
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18:54:22 | chrisjj | button/touchpad: incomplete e.g. Quick Screen missing. |
18:54:47 | chrisjj | USB: often crashes on plug/unplug |
18:55:14 | chrisjj | Dual-boot: ISWYM. |
18:56:40 | chrisjj | BTW, amongst five ZEN units here I now have units that demo all the issues on which I've received reports from others. |
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18:57:43 | chrisjj | Inc. issues for which there is consistent variation between units. |
18:58:32 | chrisjj | If you add a debug menu item displaying the hardware version number(s), I can list the results. |
18:59:36 | chrisjj | Outside the RB test suite I have another four units so would probably be able to let you examples of different hardware versions. |
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19:00:12 | chrisjj | That's for Creative ZEN - not Creative ZEN X-Fi, which is far harder to obtain. |
19:13:07 | pamaury | that's more an issue with keymapping, not button driver |
19:14:33 | pamaury | and I think the problem with USB is not actually related to USB, but to power management |
19:16:25 | pamaury | anyway, yeah it would be nice to try to understand the difference between the units, if there is one |
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19:31:17 | kugel | JdGordon: grr, %Vf and %Vg are dreaded tags |
19:31:22 | kugel | they shouldnt exist |
19:33:50 | chrisjj | "that's more an issue with keymapping, not button driver" No doubt, but the capability in question is not button driver. It is "Button/touchpad". |
19:35:11 | chrisjj | Re USB, understood, I'm referring to the effect on the user rather than the casue seen by the developer. 'Cause I think this table is for the benefit of users more than developers. |
19:35:40 | chrisjj | "if there is one". No if about it :) |
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19:42:53 | Guest27097 | When I plug my ipod into my computer it says that the ipod is empty and has a capacity of 0 bytes |
19:43:26 | Guest27097 | its an ipod classic with emcore and rockbox v af4c55b-130512 |
19:47:17 | chrisjj | pamaury: I made the revised update: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/bin/compare/Main/TargetStatus?rev1=331;rev2=332 |
19:47:42 | chrisjj | ZEN X-Fi Display remains Yes. |
19:49:36 | Guest27097 | nevermind, it finally worked after like 10 trys |
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19:52:00 | chrisjj | Re wiki, anyone know why edits fails to create revisions in my page http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/Sandbox/TestHistory ? |
19:52:46 | chrisjj | pamaury: Thanks again for your great work on the ZENs. |
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20:00:23 | scorche|sh | chrisjj: it rolls changes within a certain timeframe into the same edit if the author is the same |
20:03:03 | chrisjj | On Port Status e.g. http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaFuzePlusPort , first column's label "driver" is inappropriate to content e.g. Manual, Rockbox Utility. Anyone object to amendment to e.g. "Feature"? |
20:08:20 | AlexP | I don't expect anyone gives a shit, it isn't remotely important |
20:08:26 | AlexP | If it makes you feel better, sure |
20:09:21 | pamaury | chrisjj: I don't mind, I don't think anyone cares |
20:09:51 | chrisjj | Anyone else, you mean :) Thanks. |
20:09:54 | chrisjj | pamaury: FYI, http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/bin/compare/Main/CreativeZENXFiPort Port Status now records my test results on Boot. |
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20:13:01 | chrisjj | PS I know three users care about this :) |
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21:39:36 | pixelma | kugel: I like %Vf and %Vb, making it easy to change colours of text or graphics (when monochrome bitmaps) conditionally, e.g. printing the volume in red or something when above 0dB - and not having to set up different viewports and change whole viewports around. |
21:45:07 | pixelma | viewports with the same content even |
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21:53:26 | wodz | 1) I pushed patch to gerrit ( g#713) from one machine 2) cherry-picked this patch on other machine 3) developed other patch on top of this 3) when attempting to push this new patch (depended on g#713) I get error ! [remote rejected] HEAD -> refs/for/master (no changes made). What do I miss? |
21:53:28 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #713 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/713 : coldfire: Use single app.lds script for all coldfires. by Marcin Bukat (changes/13/713/1) |
21:53:31 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #713 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/713 : coldfire: Use single app.lds script for all coldfires. by Marcin Bukat (changes/13/713/1) |
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22:08:55 | kugel | pixelma: they are a nightmare to support in the code |
22:09:24 | kugel | for colored text there is %Vs |
22:12:09 | kugel | wodz: I found gerrit rejects pushes without any changes |
22:12:17 | kugel | try to push just the new commit |
22:13:45 | wodz | kugel: git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master should push just last commit, no? |
22:14:40 | kugel | I'm not sure what it's supposed to do, but as you found it doesnt do that |
22:15:02 | wodz | hmm |
22:16:26 | wodz | so, how am I supposed to push just last commit? |
22:17:41 | kugel | git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master everything up to HEAD that isn't in master already |
22:18:03 | kugel | apparenty gerrit doesn't allow that in some cases |
22:18:31 | wodz | lovely |
22:18:32 | kugel | to push just the latest I think someting like git push origin HEAD..HEAD^:refs/for/master might work |
22:18:44 | kugel | perhaps torne messed up some config? |
22:19:16 | wodz | error: src refspec HEAD..HEAD^ does not match any. |
22:20:00 | kugel | HEAD^..HEAD? |
22:20:23 | wodz | the same |
22:20:28 | kugel | no idea then |
22:20:56 | kugel | can you git push −−force? |
22:21:40 | wodz | doesn't work either |
22:22:18 | wodz | maybe I'll do dummy change to the commit which is on gerrit already |
22:26:14 | wodz | ha, that did the trick. |
22:26:48 | wodz | so g#718 for brave testers |
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22:28:57 | wodz | kugel: please review g#711 |
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22:33:33 | pixelma | to me mono bitmaps and foreground/ background colours is nicer for the effect(s) I usually want to achieve than having to load different bitmaps that just have different colours. Of course that's just the user/themer's point of view but I really don't want to see them gone |
22:33:51 | kugel | wodz: IMO entire cookie should be summed |
22:33:58 | kugel | i.e. the name field also |
22:37:30 | wodz | kugel: why? If something overflows the buffer there is little chance the crc happens to be correct. The second point is that name is variable len. And third is performance wise - smaller crc range = smaller overhead |
22:37:53 | kugel | underflows |
22:39:14 | wodz | you have cookie0|data0|cookie1|data1|... so if allocation 0 overflows it will corrupt cookie1, no? |
22:39:27 | kugel | yes |
22:39:49 | kugel | I mean bad writes to data1 can corrupt cookie1 |
22:40:03 | wodz | that also |
22:40:21 | wodz | ah, I see what you mean |
22:41:02 | wodz | yes in that case name field can be corrupted but not detected |
22:41:29 | wodz | but this is not critical (although bad of course) |
22:42:00 | kugel | the name_len field can be corrupted |
22:42:03 | kugel | and this is critical |
22:42:11 | wodz | right |
22:42:32 | kugel | anyway if we check the cookie why stop halfway? |
22:43:53 | wodz | ok, I'll look at this |
22:44:00 | bertrik | pamaury: another device question: would me getting a creative zen micro help? for hacking? is there *some* kind of chance I can hack it? |
22:44:21 | bertrik | I see a lot of these in 2nd hand sales |
22:45:40 | bertrik | oh, I see we already have a little bit of information on it :) |
22:45:45 | wodz | kugel: maybe simple byte checksum over cookie will be enough (should be faster then computing crc)? |
22:47:02 | pamaury | bertrik: what is the soc in the zen micro ? I'm not sure it's imx233 |
22:47:38 | bertrik | it has a TI TMS 320 according to the wiki |
22:48:12 | kugel | crc32 should be fast enough, especially with the lut approach |
22:48:21 | pamaury | we have a port for it iirc but I don't know how much work it would be |
22:48:30 | pamaury | I don't have much interest in it though |
22:49:50 | bertrik | pamaury: you mean a compiler for the TMS? or do you mean there is a start of a port somewhere? |
22:52:06 | pamaury | bertrik: we have a ARM port for the tms320 |
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22:52:26 | pamaury | for the creative ZVM |
22:52:44 | pamaury | I don't know the actual state but there is some code |
22:57:21 | wodz | sansa connect uses this SoC also |
22:58:14 | bertrik | the hard part is getting some code running and not bricking it IMO, I was hoping that that was already done |
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23:02:26 | wodz | bertrik: according to our wiki the hard part is that this particular variant has no free documentation http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TexasInstrumentsTMS320 |
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