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00:31:46 | pamaury | chrisjj: I am working on the ZEN X-Fi |
00:32:10 | pamaury | I managed to replicate the "black screen of death" fairly consistently and I am narrowing down the issue |
00:32:18 | pamaury | it is clearly a lcd driver issue |
00:33:58 | pamaury | I *think* it may be related to DMA: I reset the LCDIF dma channel *before* ungating it's clock, which looks like a bad idea |
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00:51:24 | pamaury | maybe the LCDIF block needs to be properly running for the reset to work properly |
00:52:45 | pamaury | nope |
00:52:50 | pamaury | now this is getting weird |
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01:16:17 | [Saint] | If someone's gettin' happy on bar draw direction for touchscreen, I'm pretty sure RTL bars are still using LTF touch gestures. |
01:16:39 | [Saint] | (rather similar to the verticalbar stuff I saw mentioned earlier) |
01:16:54 | [Saint] | *LTR |
01:21:25 | [Saint] | Very odd to see someone so happy about giving up a Rockboxed device with some of the cleanest audio output possible for...a nasty little gimmicky touchscreen cube. |
01:21:36 | [Saint] | [07:32:51] <ytm> i just returned my old 1g nano for a brand new 6g nano w00t !ç |
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01:35:07 | kugel | copper: that issue should be fixed as well now |
01:36:32 | [Saint] | COngratulations on your scrolling roll, Sir. |
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01:37:09 | [Saint] | copper's little fix for the fg/bg colors made me cringe too - but it worked, so I couldn't really fault it |
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01:37:47 | kugel | what do you mean? |
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01:38:18 | kugel | text tags on the same line as %V? |
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01:42:12 | [Saint] | Yes. I'm pretty sure its not supposed to work, either. |
01:42:23 | [Saint] | As well as being hard to follow. |
01:42:59 | [Saint] | But there's some bloody odd formatting allowed in there that I never bothered learning and I'm not sure whats allowed and what isn;t anymore. |
01:43:01 | kugel | yea, it's not supposed to work, and it didn't in my recent tests |
01:43:43 | [Saint] | JdGordon made some form of indented flow for themes I could never follow. |
01:43:56 | [Saint] | ANd since then I was never /too/ sure what was legal and what wasn't. |
01:49:04 | toehser1 | Any tips on throwing rockbox source into an IDE to help my brain navigate it - useful experience on, say, whether to use code::blocks or eclipse-CDT or something else, if anyone has already reverse-engineered project files, or anything else to make such a crutch easier to get building? |
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01:53:41 | foolsh | toehser1: Even though I don't use one, I helped a person over in the forums with setting up rockbox on Eclipse http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,43503.msg221093.html#msg221093 |
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01:54:37 | foolsh | I prefer a shell, grep, find and nano, for an IDE has to many distractions |
01:56:47 | JdGordon | [Saint]: I did what? |
01:57:49 | [Saint] | You came up with some indented flow for theme files I'm not sure is documented anywhere. |
01:58:12 | toehser1 | Once I understand the code, that is fine - it is the source-navigation while I'm trying to figure it out (easy 'goto-declaration' or 'show-references' kind of stuff). I'll check the forum thread. |
01:58:23 | JdGordon | didnt i just allow it tp skip whitespace in tag params? |
01:59:32 | [Saint] | I think you could also arbirarily sprinkle newlines around willy nilly too. :) |
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03:03:18 | toehser1 | I get lockups with the tips of git now, I guess I'll go back a day or so. |
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03:51:02 | toehser1 | just sounds better that way... |
03:51:47 | toehser1 | what is "queue_post ovf q=01064160 |
03:51:49 | toehser1 | " |
03:52:32 | toehser1 | Seems that a couple days ago works. Current I get a lockup. In the sim, it locked up, and I saw that message when I ctrl-C killed it. |
03:54:11 | toehser1 | 2a471c9e84ddc4f6f407d4fe3ad2a21a1d0e3723 seems to work. |
03:54:17 | toehser1 | I'll double check... but... |
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05:03:24 | toehser1 | whoops, maybe I'm looking at 2 different methods? |
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08:34:37 | SovonHalder | hi guys..I updated rockbox 2 days ago..I have now encountered a new issue..my playlist of songs gets frozen & entire ipod freezes every time I browse through the list of songs |
08:35:01 | SovonHalder | I have to manually reset ipo by play+menu |
08:35:05 | SovonHalder | any solution ? |
08:35:42 | SovonHalder | I'm using iPod Classic 6G 160G with rockbox daily builds |
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09:30:28 | SovonHalder | anyone ??? |
09:32:56 | ter2 | Ah, yes, the classsic. |
09:33:07 | ter2 | Mine just does that sometimes. |
09:33:14 | ter2 | But does it do that ever time? |
09:33:18 | ter2 | *every? |
09:41:30 | SovonHalder | yes |
09:41:47 | SovonHalder | my iPod froze almost 20 times since last night |
09:42:07 | SovonHalder | actually i didn't check my iPod in last 2 days after I updated rockbox |
09:42:47 | SovonHalder | last night when I tried to listen to some losssless music, it started freezing in the file list / track list /playlist & even database |
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10:06:01 | SovonHalder | anyone here ?? |
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10:19:22 | copper | kugel: awesome! That works indeed. |
10:20:20 | copper | I have one last issue: FMS artwork doesn't load when first starting the FMS; it only loads after either going back to the main menu and then back to the FMS, or after switching FM radio stations |
10:22:39 | copper | but at least I can update my themes |
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10:30:47 | kugel | toehser1: which theme? |
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10:31:37 | kugel | and target |
10:34:21 | copper | kugel: actually your fixes make my unmodified themes work too |
10:35:06 | copper | er, no |
10:35:21 | copper | the unmodified Fuze+ themes work, but not the iPod ones |
10:35:31 | copper | I'll update them all anyway |
10:48:06 | kugel | pixelma: why do you use negative x and y for %pv? |
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10:53:42 | kugel | I don't think that's legal |
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11:10:40 | pixelma | it is (though I don't remember using it, maybe something I tried out). IIRC that's supposed to be an offset from the right side of the screen or so |
11:11:54 | [Saint] | negative offsets should be legal for anything that wants an x,y |
11:12:21 | [Saint] | and they're very handy. |
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11:15:51 | pixelma | as I said that .wps is more like a playground one, just things to try. I didn't have a good grasp of what I wanted for my phone's theme yet though that slowly builds up in my head currently. The second problem is motivation because RaaA doesn't work very reliable for me especially when running in the background and then going back |
11:16:27 | kugel | pixelma: that only works for viewports |
11:16:33 | kugel | not for any other tag |
11:17:45 | pixelma | need to go back and see what I did there, maybe it's a mistake |
11:17:58 | pixelma | or workaround |
11:19:24 | kugel | [Saint]: perhaps it might be handy but it's not handled like that in the code so we should better reject it now (and reserve it for future use this way) |
11:19:30 | pixelma | ah hmm, I wanted to suppress the outline of the drawn progress bar there |
11:20:05 | kugel | which outline? the border? |
11:20:14 | pixelma | yes |
11:20:30 | kugel | i see |
11:21:35 | pixelma | more like "hide it", would be nicer probably if the drawn bar could have an option to be shown borderless? |
11:21:50 | kugel | could add a noborder param for this, in line with the nofill one |
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11:22:50 | pixelma | yeah, that's what I was thinking now |
11:23:58 | [Saint] | maybe the ability to pass negative x,y coordinates to everything was accidentally shed in the theme engine rework. |
11:24:58 | kugel | if that's true then it was clearly by mistke |
11:30:15 | SovonHalder | guys please help..my ipod classic with latest rockbox daily build is freezing on file list / tracklist /playlist |
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11:30:42 | SovonHalder | this has happened more than 50 times already |
11:31:51 | SovonHalder | every time I turn it on it seems okay..but as soon as I browse through the file list or database, it freezes..please help |
11:31:54 | pixelma | SovonHalder: do you use a daily or a development build? |
11:32:10 | SovonHalder | yeha |
11:32:16 | SovonHalder | I have today's version |
11:32:27 | [Saint] | pixelma: ? |
11:32:39 | [Saint] | there are only dev builds. |
11:32:48 | SovonHalder | I am using 0a0d61e |
11:33:54 | [Saint] | Check the filesystem. |
11:34:02 | SovonHalder | I am a total n00b |
11:34:08 | SovonHalder | tell me what to do |
11:34:19 | pixelma | ah, daily builds don't seem to be available for the 6G |
11:34:20 | [Saint] | Ask Google about specific directions for your setup. |
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11:34:56 | SovonHalder | pixelma: http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=ipod6g this is where I download rockbox versions from |
11:35:04 | [Saint] | pixelma: dailies are, sure, but daily/dev is the same thing. |
11:35:20 | [Saint] | There's no release. |
11:35:56 | SovonHalder | [Saint]: I followed the guide found in Head-fi.org to install Rockbox a year ago..I had no kind of issues till a month ago |
11:36:11 | pixelma | [Saint]: I am referring to the "Archived development builds" |
11:36:43 | pixelma | *developer |
11:36:43 | SovonHalder | what should I do now ? what specific directions of setup are you telling ? |
11:38:29 | kugel | SovonHalder: did you hit that issue before today? |
11:39:02 | SovonHalder | never in my experience of last past year since I've been using rockbox |
11:39:31 | kugel | SovonHalder: which theme are you using? |
11:39:59 | SovonHalder | 1 sec |
11:40:31 | SovonHalder | http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=1931&target=ipodvideo |
11:40:35 | SovonHalder | this one |
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11:43:42 | SovonHalder | is it the theme causing the issues ? |
11:45:51 | kugel | SovonHalder: no, but it easier to reproduce if our systems are similar |
11:46:54 | SovonHalder | sorry..what ? |
11:47:09 | SovonHalder | I justc checked with cabbiview2..it's still freezing.. |
11:47:32 | kugel | yea I can reproduce it here, with yett another theme |
11:48:24 | SovonHalder | my iPod is still frozen..what should I do ? |
11:48:33 | kugel | reset |
11:48:53 | SovonHalder | I do that...every time.. |
11:49:19 | SovonHalder | I've done this already 100 times since last night...each time I browse for my audio files it gets frozen |
11:49:21 | kugel | yes, wait for a fix |
11:49:32 | kugel | I'm working on it |
11:50:08 | SovonHalder | Sure..thanks.. |
11:50:09 | kugel | in the meantime, IIUC, it should be less likely to happen with a smaller font |
11:50:47 | SovonHalder | for now, is there any older version of rockbox which I can use till the fixed version of rockbox is released ? |
11:51:13 | [Saint] | We understand it is frustrating, but you are using an unreleased, experimental firmware, targeted at developers. |
11:51:21 | [Saint] | bugs are expected. |
11:51:29 | kugel | http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=ipod6g |
11:51:51 | kugel | it doesnt appear on the daily build page but changing the url seems to yield something |
11:52:04 | SovonHalder | I don't complain..I never complain..you guys are GODs of coding..that's perfectly fine with me.. |
11:52:20 | SovonHalder | i can wait |
11:52:28 | kugel | SovonHalder: older builds are on the page I linked to |
11:52:42 | SovonHalder | but is there any relatively stable older version which i can use at this moment ? |
11:52:58 | SovonHalder | which one should I go for ? |
11:53:45 | SovonHalder | which of all the older versions ? |
11:53:50 | kugel | the second one |
11:54:10 | kugel | the most recent one is from today and probably has the bug |
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12:07:35 | SovonHalder | I installed 10th January version 2 days ago which has the bug.. |
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12:08:13 | SovonHalder | I'll try a version that released before 2nd january. |
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12:13:38 | kugel | SovonHalder: should be fixed now |
12:13:51 | kugel | well, when the build completes in a few minutes |
12:14:55 | SovonHalder | okay..I'm waiting |
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12:24:46 | kugel | SovonHalder: ^ |
12:29:58 | SovonHalder | http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=ipod6g |
12:30:10 | SovonHalder | still isn't available in this page |
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12:45:59 | copper | woah |
12:46:09 | copper | Fuze+ HEAD is fucked up |
12:46:41 | copper | on the actual device |
12:47:29 | pamaury | what is the problem ? |
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12:47:50 | copper | when I go back to the SBS from the WPS, the screen gets scrambled |
12:48:21 | copper | it gets scrambled and flikers, heavy graphics corruption |
12:48:28 | kugel | SovonHalder: use the current build |
12:48:36 | pamaury | I guess that's another memory corruption issue |
12:48:44 | pamaury | or does that happen with the default theme ? |
12:49:20 | SovonHalder | kugel: when will the new build be alailable for downloading ? |
12:49:27 | copper | pamaury: with cabbiev2 too, yes |
12:50:01 | kugel | SovonHalder: it is already |
12:50:13 | copper | pamaury: I guess I'm seeing the same thing as this guy: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showpost.php?p=642911&postcount=96 |
12:50:17 | SovonHalder | it doesn't show up in the daily rockbox build page |
12:50:22 | kugel | the current build is available immediately after the build finished |
12:50:37 | copper | pamaury: and it doesn't happen in the sim |
12:50:41 | kugel | right, the day builds are updated one per day |
12:50:59 | kugel | current builds are here: http://build.rockbox.org/ |
12:51:10 | pamaury | I can have a look but nothing has changed for a long time, I doubt it's fuze+ specific |
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12:51:30 | copper | it's like "static" in motion |
12:52:09 | copper | and now my Fuze+ just froze |
12:52:13 | SovonHalder | I mean mine is iPod Classic 6G..so i download daily builds from this page: http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=ipod6g |
12:52:33 | kugel | SovonHalder: I told you to go to the current build page |
12:52:36 | kugel | day != current |
12:52:44 | kugel | daily != current* |
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12:56:40 | SovonHalder | I realy am sorry for wasting your time but I'm slightly confused as to which rockbox should I try right now for my iPoc Classic 6G 160G. If anyone could kindly provide a direct link to the zip file, it would really help me. |
12:57:51 | kugel | SovonHalder: I linked you to the current build page, download the ipod6g build from there: http://build.rockbox.org/ |
12:58:25 | pamaury | copper: I'm still fighting a problem on the ZEN but when I'm done I'll try. Did you do anything special to get this corruption ? Did you reset the settings ? |
12:58:26 | kugel | copper: the freeze might be fixed with the very latest build |
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13:01:05 | copper | kugel: nope, "very latest" is the one I built |
13:01:36 | kugel | just saying, I committed a freeze fix a few minutes ago |
13:02:18 | SovonHalder | I don't know what is wrong with me. And I understand it's getting very annoying to you guys for me being here but I can't find iPod classic or iPod 6g on this page: http://build.rockbox.org/ |
13:02:21 | copper | Current branch master is up to date. |
13:02:24 | copper | that's what I built |
13:02:37 | copper | pamaury: nothing special, and I reset the config |
13:03:35 | kugel | SovonHalder: sorry, I thought it would be there. where did you get your preious builds from? |
13:03:55 | SovonHalder | http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=ipod6g |
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13:04:53 | kugel | SovonHalder: I mean before I showed you the daily build page |
13:05:09 | kugel | anyway, the current build is here http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipod6g.zip (the link points always to the latest) |
13:06:30 | kugel | gevaerts: do you know why the 6g isnt on the current/daily build pages? |
13:07:51 | SovonHalder | the latest version available on that page has this revision number: 0a0d61e-140112 |
13:09:19 | SovonHalder | this version has that bug |
13:09:24 | SovonHalder | but the revision which was built less than an hour ago is of version no this: 6e882b4 −− it isn't available on the daily build page of the iPod Classic 6G. |
13:09:46 | kugel | the daily build for today is already built |
13:10:00 | kugel | the next one will appear there tomorrow |
13:10:09 | kugel | use the zip I just linked to |
13:10:20 | kugel | that points to the current dev built |
13:10:23 | SovonHalder | I downloaded it.. |
13:10:39 | SovonHalder | it is the 0a0d61e-140112 |
13:10:39 | kugel | right |
13:10:47 | SovonHalder | not 6e882b4 |
13:11:17 | kugel | download http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipod6g.zip, I verified its 6e882b4 |
13:12:05 | SovonHalder | 1 sec |
13:14:00 | SovonHalder | yeah it's 6e882b4 |
13:14:51 | SovonHalder | is this okay if I completely delete the .rockbox folder from ipod & copy the new one ? |
13:14:58 | SovonHalder | instead of overwriting files |
13:15:04 | kugel | yes but it's not necessary |
13:15:18 | SovonHalder | there are lots of files like database_0.tcd etc.. which was not there before |
13:15:31 | SovonHalder | *were |
13:15:56 | kugel | right, rockbox creates a handful of files, such as configuration files, the database, some persistent caches |
13:16:25 | kugel | but you generally do not need to delete those before upgrading |
13:16:32 | SovonHalder | okay |
13:19:24 | SovonHalder | I updated |
13:19:29 | kugel | pixelma: I suspect you don't want a bg colored border, but no boarder at all right? |
13:20:06 | SovonHalder | it still freezes.sorry... |
13:21:15 | copper | SovonHalder: don't use my Googley themes with the latest build |
13:21:31 | copper | use cabbiev2 for now, until the bugs get fixed and I update my themes |
13:22:36 | copper | the Googley themes that you have a not compatible with the latest builds |
13:22:54 | SovonHalder | cabbiv2 is also freezing |
13:25:20 | kugel | i cannot reproduce freezing anymore |
13:25:34 | kugel | is it freezing in lists or on the wps? |
13:26:28 | SovonHalder | in the file list or database access on track list |
13:27:09 | SovonHalder | I moved back to 31st December 2013 version |
13:27:52 | SovonHalder | Copper: can you please link me to the modified googly classic theme where it shows next track instead of codec ? |
13:28:01 | kugel | SovonHalder: did you delete everything or not? |
13:28:11 | kugel | before upgrad |
13:28:56 | SovonHalder | I didn't delete anything |
13:29:10 | SovonHalder | I said yes to the permision of overwriting files |
13:29:39 | kugel | hm, can you try again with deleting everything? |
13:29:53 | kugel | I'm unable reproduce the freeze |
13:30:31 | SovonHalder | I can but I am woreied..I've reset my iPod about 100 times since last night.seriously.. |
13:30:48 | SovonHalder | is this gonna cause any permanent damage ? |
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13:32:26 | kugel | no |
13:32:47 | kugel | SovonHalder: instead of deleting everything just rename the .rockbox dir before upgrade |
13:32:52 | copper | kugel: freezing on my Classic in the WPS while playing music |
13:33:27 | copper | with HEAD |
13:34:30 | copper | freezed again while browsing files |
13:34:46 | kugel | with cabbie? |
13:34:52 | copper | actually it's not so much a freeze, as the controls that become unresponsive |
13:35:10 | copper | music keeps playing, and the display times out as normal |
13:35:21 | copper | but the scroll wheel is unresponsive |
13:35:25 | SovonHalder | exactly |
13:35:29 | kugel | aha |
13:35:30 | SovonHalder | music keeps playing |
13:35:40 | SovonHalder | control is interrupted |
13:35:48 | copper | and I have to reset the iPod with menu+select |
13:35:54 | kugel | that's bit is kind of important guys :) |
13:35:57 | SovonHalder | exactly |
13:36:06 | copper | kugel: yes, I figured :) |
13:37:05 | SovonHalder | copper: I'll be using your theme..if you don't update your themes, I won't update rockbox.. |
13:37:20 | kugel | copper: lines keep scrolling too or not? |
13:37:27 | copper | nope |
13:37:32 | SovonHalder | http://outpost.fr/rockbox/Googley-Classic-All-2013-08-22.zip it's from your last mail to me..it's dead |
13:38:51 | copper | kugel: no scrolling and no artwork |
13:39:03 | copper | music keeps playing, display dims out |
13:39:28 | kugel | does the display go back on if you press a button? |
13:39:32 | copper | nothing gets updated on the display |
13:39:49 | copper | display goes back on if I touch the scroll wheel |
13:39:55 | copper | but doesn't get updated |
13:39:58 | kugel | interesting |
13:40:13 | kugel | but there are lines long enough to scroll right? |
13:40:21 | copper | yup |
13:40:29 | kugel | can you try to see if it also happens on your fuze+? |
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13:40:33 | copper | hmmm now the display won't go back on |
13:40:57 | copper | actually the display is on but not the backlight |
13:41:39 | copper | and the display won't turn off now |
13:41:46 | copper | display stays on and backlight stays off |
13:42:57 | kugel | copper: I don't have 6g, so either I can reproduce it on the sim (no luck yet) or on a different device; or you have to bisect for me :) |
13:43:28 | copper | doesn't happen on the Fuze+, but the Fuze+ is currently fucked up on it own |
13:43:31 | copper | its* |
13:46:47 | copper | bisecting on the actual device would be quite cumbersome |
13:47:09 | copper | and I confirm that neither problems (on the Classic, and on the Fuze+) show in the sims |
13:48:20 | copper | kugel pamaury: can you guys reproduce the graphics corruptions on the Fuze+ |
13:48:21 | copper | ? |
13:48:52 | kugel | my fuzev2 does fine it seems |
13:49:12 | copper | hmmm |
13:49:14 | kugel | I don't own a fuze+ |
13:49:17 | copper | should I try the Clip+ too? |
13:49:58 | copper | yeah I'm gonna try HEAD on the Clip+ |
13:53:23 | copper | no problem whatsoever on the Clip+ |
13:54:07 | kugel | i guess ipod6g and fuze+ are not stable targets for a reason, although I do have no idea what could be causing the freeze |
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13:54:23 | copper | both ipod6g and fuze+ worked fine not long ago |
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13:57:38 | copper | 00b3fd2 is said to be OK on the Fuze+ |
13:59:30 | copper | sigh |
13:59:43 | copper | I guess I'm going to have to bisect them both |
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14:00:29 | SovonHalder | is there any way I can download a 2 month older version of rockbox daily builds for iPod Clasic 6g ? |
14:03:18 | kugel | no |
14:03:37 | kugel | you can build it yourself, though |
14:03:46 | SovonHalder | how ? |
14:04:45 | kugel | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/HowToCompile |
14:04:59 | kugel | you should be running linux |
14:08:22 | pamaury | kugel: I haven't tried yet, I'm busy with something else at the moment |
14:08:53 | kugel | pamaury: ? |
14:10:18 | pamaury | sorry, copper |
14:10:54 | pamaury | ok, downloading HEAD... |
14:14:34 | pamaury | copper: how am I supposed to trigger the bug ? |
14:17:50 | copper | play something in the WPS, go back to the SBS (and vice versa) |
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14:18:27 | pamaury | I don't get any corruption for the moment |
14:20:00 | pamaury | I'm running 6e882b4 |
14:20:39 | PurlingNayuki | JdGordon: Finished initializer today and am working on a menu following eq_menu.c. |
14:25:20 | copper | pamaury: bisecting the Fuze+ now, starting from 00b3fd2, which is confirmed good |
14:26:06 | pamaury | ok thanks |
14:26:08 | pamaury | :) |
14:28:30 | copper | it's going to take a bit longer since I'll have to test every build on the actual device |
14:29:44 | kugel | copper: litte trick: do only "make bin" and copy "rockbox.sansa", that should make it a quicker process |
14:30:10 | pamaury | definitely, I was about to say it: only rebuild the main binary |
14:31:10 | pamaury | don't forgot to copy it to <path to root>/.rockbox/rockbox.sansa |
14:31:15 | pamaury | and not at the root of the device ;) |
14:31:44 | pamaury | sounds stupid but I've done it ^^ |
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14:34:01 | copper | thanks for the tip |
14:34:37 | copper | you're absolutely sure that the bugs couldn't be caused by something other than the main rockbox.sansa file though? |
14:35:14 | pamaury | I think that's a safe assumption in this context yes |
14:35:22 | kugel | the revision you're starting at is recent enouggh |
14:38:00 | pamaury | I almost wish I had not discovered why the ZEN locks up sometimes on boot, it brings more question than it actually solves |
14:45:43 | pamaury | the good thing is: with hwstub, I can nearly do post-moterm analysis of the device |
14:47:57 | [Saint] | hwstub is a really beautiful thing. |
14:48:05 | [Saint] | scary beautiful. |
14:48:07 | copper | 99f3f77ee87ad06e0d5a7572c2ebaaf76c526ac1 is the first bad commit |
14:48:11 | copper | skin_engine: Pass string to put_line() via $t because they can be very large. |
14:48:34 | [Saint] | I should've said that sooner. It really deserves praise. |
14:49:06 | pamaury | [Saint]: it's very simple, but very useful indeed |
14:49:57 | copper | kugel: ^^ that's yours :P |
14:51:26 | pamaury | that's really really puzzling: if resetting a dma channel fail, how I am supposed to do anything safe on this SoC ? |
14:53:09 | kugel | copper: can you try to run HEAD+this reverted on top? |
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14:53:21 | copper | how do I do that? |
14:53:45 | kugel | checkout master and run "git revert 99f3f77ee87ad06e0d5a7572c2ebaaf76c526ac1" |
14:54:16 | pamaury | chrisjj: I have identified the ZEN black-screen-of-death culprit, but I don't know how to solve it at the moment, it's a complete mystery |
14:54:21 | copper | doing it |
14:55:40 | copper | kugel: HEAD + reverted commit works (no bug) |
14:56:08 | kugel | do you have (very) long lines on the wps? |
14:57:04 | copper | er |
14:57:06 | copper | wait |
14:57:14 | copper | I think I fucked up somewhere |
14:57:31 | copper | how do I reset my git tree |
14:57:43 | kugel | git reset −−hard |
14:58:05 | kugel | but that undos any local changes too |
14:58:41 | [Saint] | might be best to stash first if theres anything you care about in there. |
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15:00:49 | [Saint] | but maybe it's just me that constantly seems to have uncommitted work scattered around 24/7 |
15:00:50 | copper | ah, shit |
15:00:52 | * | kugel can't find anything wrong in that commit |
15:00:53 | copper | I fucked up |
15:01:02 | copper | it's not that commit |
15:01:06 | kugel | ah ok |
15:01:15 | copper | apparently I didn't encounter the bug on a bad commit |
15:01:24 | copper | I know how to make sure to reproduce the bug now |
15:01:34 | copper | but I have to start bisecting all over again |
15:01:37 | copper | :( |
15:01:39 | kugel | :/ |
15:01:53 | kugel | but it is sure appreciated |
15:02:18 | [Saint] | Its like, 6 to 8 runs, if youre unlucky, I think. |
15:02:32 | [Saint] | But that's still more than enough to get tedious. |
15:03:00 | [Saint] | #guestimatedmath |
15:03:51 | [Saint] | I no longer have a working Classic. But I could probably make one out of the three corpses I have here. |
15:11:22 | pamaury | I think I have definitely run into a hardware bug |
15:11:28 | pamaury | And I don't have the errata for this chip |
15:13:36 | copper | eec89a90ffdd077d687914fe18a9e48028f07fb4 is the first bad commit |
15:13:41 | copper | lists: Adapt put_line(). |
15:13:45 | copper | This enables removing large portions of code, simplifiyng the drawing routine. |
15:13:49 | copper | All of the removed code is functionaltiy now available through put_line(). |
15:14:20 | copper | kugel: I hope I didn't fuck this up this time |
15:14:29 | copper | can I try the same HEAD + reverted change thing? |
15:15:04 | kugel | that won't work I'm afraid |
15:15:08 | copper | I figured |
15:15:13 | kugel | because the functions previously used are now removed |
15:15:24 | copper | I'm going to double check though |
15:19:40 | copper | ugh |
15:19:55 | copper | did I accidentally commit something? |
15:20:18 | kugel | don't know |
15:20:20 | kugel | check git log |
15:20:41 | copper | I did |
15:20:45 | copper | it shows my "commit" |
15:21:05 | kugel | you can undo the latest commit with git reset −−hard HEAD^ |
15:21:28 | copper | thanks, that did the trick |
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15:22:56 | kugel | pixelma: ^ |
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15:25:20 | copper | kugel: ok, this time I'm sure: eec89a90ffdd077d687914fe18a9e48028f07fb4 is the bad commit |
15:25:32 | copper | I double checked |
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15:25:45 | kugel | the revision before works fine? |
15:26:08 | copper | yup |
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15:26:29 | copper | you just committed something new? |
15:26:38 | copper | skin_engine: New param "noborder" for the bar tags. |
15:26:47 | kugel | yes |
15:27:08 | copper | well, let me know when I can test a fix |
15:28:23 | copper | ugh, looks like a lot of work |
15:31:50 | kugel | does the bug appear with default settings (did you try deleting config.cfg?) |
15:32:00 | kugel | s/deleting/renaming/ |
15:32:05 | kugel | copper: ^ |
15:32:34 | copper | yeah I reset the config when I checked and double checked |
15:32:34 | kugel | also, how does the corruption look like? |
15:32:57 | copper | kugel: like the bullshit graphical interference on a hacked computer in some silly cop show |
15:33:04 | copper | :P |
15:33:12 | kugel | all over the screen, or just an area? |
15:33:15 | copper | all over |
15:35:41 | kugel | copper: please try if that patch has any effect http://pastie.org/8626419 |
15:36:51 | copper | ok |
15:38:56 | copper | kugel: bug is still there with the patch on top of eec89a90ffdd077d687914fe18a9e48028f07fb4; I only rebuilt the binary (make bin) |
15:39:26 | kugel | hm |
15:39:55 | kugel | did text scrolling in lists stop working with that patch? |
15:40:55 | copper | file names don't scroll in the file browser |
15:41:24 | copper | the current directory name does scroll though |
15:42:22 | [Saint] | why on earth woukd this be target specific? |
15:42:52 | kugel | that's a good question |
15:48:10 | kugel | copper: try this http://pastie.org/8626455 |
15:48:28 | copper | on top of the other patch? |
15:48:48 | kugel | no |
15:48:56 | kugel | instead of that |
15:48:57 | copper | on top of eec89a90ffdd077d687914fe18a9e48028f07fb4 or HEAD? |
15:49:09 | kugel | any of them |
15:49:15 | copper | ok |
15:49:17 | kugel | what's your reproduce recipe? |
15:49:29 | kugel | better HEAD because that's where I'm at |
15:49:43 | copper | reset config, go in the file browser, open a directory with music files, go up and down the list of files |
15:50:36 | toehser1 | get_line_desc () at /home/tom/rockbox/git-tip/rockbox/apps/gui/line.c:68 |
15:50:36 | toehser1 | 68 } while (this->used); |
15:50:45 | toehser1 | theme tomsway2 |
15:50:49 | toehser1 | target Clip Zip |
15:50:57 | toehser1 | the while loop goes all infinite |
15:51:32 | toehser1 | When I try to look at it in gdb it seems like the line_index++ never takes effect and line_index stays "4" |
15:51:42 | toehser1 | when it freezes |
15:51:59 | copper | kugel: patch doesn't help |
15:52:06 | toehser1 | I haven't updated today, that was yesterdays change to line.c |
15:52:10 | toehser1 | that broke it for me |
15:52:21 | kugel | toehser1: update today |
15:52:41 | toehser1 | in progress - update, make coffee, test |
15:55:55 | copper | kugel pamaury : video of the graphics glitch: http://youtu.be/9F66xPfTzo8 |
15:57:28 | kugel | ah hmm |
15:58:31 | kugel | that could be target specific indeed |
15:58:34 | [Saint] | You're glimpsing the matrix, man. |
15:58:42 | copper | yes, my Fuze+ is getting hacked |
15:58:45 | copper | over the air |
15:58:58 | [Saint] | what color pill did you take? |
15:59:02 | copper | PINK |
15:59:09 | kugel | copper: http://pastie.org/8626480 |
15:59:12 | copper | like Mr. Jesse Pinkman |
15:59:18 | kugel | again, instead of any otehr patch |
15:59:33 | copper | kugel: I see what you did there. ;) |
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16:01:22 | kugel | this looks more like a lcd driver problem to me |
16:01:35 | kugel | because, as you see, the content is fine, it's just shifted |
16:01:49 | copper | bug still there, though less visually brutal |
16:03:08 | copper | I hardly see the kind of corruption on the video, but as I go up and down the list of files, the displays shifts to the left, and back to the right |
16:03:13 | kugel | plus, the statusbar is also affected |
16:03:21 | kugel | but the commit does not affect the statusbar |
16:04:02 | kugel | pamaury: ^ |
16:04:23 | copper | so, your commit just causes an otherwise silent bug to show? |
16:04:35 | kugel | copper: no idea how that commit could make this kind of problem appear, or even make worse |
16:05:01 | copper | sounds like you changed a bunch of stuff, no? |
16:05:05 | kugel | I wonder why pamaury sees no problems |
16:05:12 | copper | because pamaury has a different display |
16:05:32 | kugel | I changed only high level stuff |
16:05:37 | copper | there was another display bug that showed on some Fuze+'s (including mine), but not his |
16:05:50 | pamaury | there are two kinds of LCD on the fuze+ |
16:06:07 | kugel | pamaury: can you take a look at the video he made? |
16:06:35 | pamaury | the one where with the pixel at the bottom instead of the top ? |
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16:06:56 | kugel | 15:55 < copper> kugel pamaury : video of the graphics glitch: http://youtu.be/9F66xPfTzo8 |
16:06:57 | pamaury | copper: can you give me your LCD kind ? It's the debug menu > HW Info > Target |
16:07:21 | pamaury | this is super weird, never seen anything like this |
16:07:32 | copper | pamaury: lcd kind: ili9325 |
16:07:47 | pamaury | I have the other one |
16:08:01 | copper | I know |
16:08:08 | kugel | pamaury: can you try git HEAD with settings reset? |
16:08:09 | copper | how do I get out of the hw info stuff? |
16:08:22 | pamaury | copper: power button |
16:08:28 | pamaury | it will probably crash anyway |
16:08:34 | copper | yeah I think it just froze |
16:08:51 | kugel | if you still see no problems, then it's 99% sure a lcd driver/type problem, because copper sees this issue in the same setup |
16:09:06 | toehser1 | Freezing bug seems to be fixed, now I just have the weird "scrolling fields stop being scrolling fields, bug navigating out of WPS and back makes them scroll again". |
16:09:09 | pamaury | kugel: is there something new ? I mean I tested HEAD like 1h ago |
16:09:17 | kugel | with settings reset? |
16:09:20 | pamaury | yes |
16:09:23 | kugel | ok |
16:09:29 | pamaury | it's the same driver, the only difference is in the init sequence |
16:09:50 | kugel | timing problems? |
16:09:53 | toehser1 | Whoops, just froze on "loading". |
16:09:56 | copper | those super random bugs are scaring me |
16:10:00 | pamaury | there cannot be in the mode used |
16:10:04 | pamaury | I have another fuze+, let me check the lcd kind |
16:10:54 | kugel | so, two fuze+'s with different lcds, same rockbox version and config, one shows the problem and the other one doesnt |
16:11:03 | kugel | what would you think? :) |
16:11:27 | pamaury | yeah but the difference between the two is none on lcd refresh, it's the exact same code :-/ |
16:11:44 | kugel | plus, my samsung ypr0 also doesnt show the problem (same version and display resolution) |
16:11:45 | copper | :( |
16:12:05 | copper | one step forward, one step back |
16:12:15 | kugel | pamaury: perhaps that's the problem and the lcd need to be handled separately |
16:12:47 | pamaury | the OF handles them both the same way too |
16:12:56 | kugel | IMO all evidence is saying that this is a target specific, perhaps even lcd specific, bug |
16:14:37 | pamaury | I agree, but then I have no idea what the problem is :-/ |
16:14:46 | copper | Meeeeh! |
16:14:50 | kugel | although it's very strange that my put_line() makes it appear seemingly out of nowhere |
16:15:13 | copper | it's not just me though |
16:15:22 | copper | it was first reported in my ABI threads |
16:15:24 | copper | thread* |
16:15:36 | copper | "Okay, so I've got Rockbox on my Fuze+, and it is freezing up repeatedly and the screen glitches a lot (flickering, becomes pixelated, etc.)." |
16:15:55 | toehser1 | Hasn't frozen for me yet on the real clipzip with today's tip. Still does the loses-scrolling bug on the real target, too. |
16:16:00 | copper | so I guess that rules out my Fuze+ being special or defective |
16:16:57 | kugel | copper: I wonder what LCD type the other guy has |
16:17:17 | pamaury | I need to wait a bit, it's completely discharged |
16:17:59 | copper | probably the same one |
16:18:03 | copper | I can ask |
16:18:17 | kugel | would be helpful to know |
16:21:11 | pamaury | copper: where do you live ? (which country ?) |
16:21:15 | copper | done |
16:21:18 | copper | pamaury: France |
16:21:30 | pamaury | ah true, forgot that |
16:21:34 | copper | I bought the Fuze+ from a UK shop I think |
16:21:42 | copper | and it's a refurb |
16:22:03 | pamaury | which city ? |
16:22:13 | copper | Perpignan |
16:23:31 | copper | why? |
16:24:33 | pamaury | if you had lived in Paris you could have come and show me the player ^^ |
16:27:23 | copper | eh |
16:27:37 | copper | I couldn't be farther from Paris |
16:27:48 | copper | 50 km more south and I'd be in Spain :P |
16:28:24 | [Saint] | Almost my antipodes I think. |
16:29:03 | toehser1 | I added FS #12931 for my weird scrolling bug. |
16:29:04 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12931 Fields "stop being scrolling fields" until reset by navigating out of WPS. (bugs, unconfirmed) |
16:29:24 | pamaury | both my fuze+ are st7783 kind |
16:30:04 | toehser1 | Any hints where to look in the code, something that maintains a scrolling/not state on a field in the view, but that is reset when navigating out and back to the WPS? |
16:30:11 | [Saint] | perhaps you could swap for a bit? |
16:30:24 | Songs0fFailure | pamaury: hi! how things are with STMFM1000 support in rockbox ? it seems that i found datasheet for this fm chip. |
16:30:41 | [Saint] | pamaury copper ^ |
16:31:05 | pamaury | [Saint]: sadly, my second Fuze+ is a piece of shit, the battery is dead |
16:31:15 | [Saint] | aha. |
16:31:30 | pamaury | Songs0fFailure: I have a working proof of concept (without RDS) |
16:31:38 | [Saint] | and buying a new one is a big gamble. |
16:31:54 | [Saint] | luck would dictate always getting the wrong one. |
16:32:03 | pamaury | Songs0fFailure: I guess you found the "brief datasheet" which is mostly useless, there is no datasheet for this chip unfortunately |
16:32:40 | pamaury | Yeah, the only safe bet would be to buy it from someone who has two of them for example, knowing it's of the right kind |
16:32:55 | * | [Saint] nods |
16:33:05 | pamaury | we can still try a few things remotely on copper's fuze+ I'm sure |
16:34:04 | pamaury | first I'll double check the init sequence, compare with the OF |
16:35:54 | pamaury | then we can check if the bug still exists when always doing full screen refresh instead of partial refresh |
16:36:28 | pamaury | maybe the LCD has some limitations on the partial refresh window |
16:36:32 | Songs0fFailure | pamaury: must be DS, not brief. it's form chinese forum ;) but i need help and i think PurlingNayuki can help to get DS. |
16:36:45 | pamaury | Songs0fFailure: how many pages ? |
16:36:51 | pamaury | do you have a link ? |
16:39:11 | toehser1 | 12931 might be related to 12894, but that one had a fix pushed. |
16:40:48 | copper | pamaury: if I shipped you my Fuze+ for as long as you need, would you be able to study it enough so as to squash potential future bugs? I can use my iPod Classic in the mean time. |
16:41:22 | pamaury | copper: can't be sure, first we should try what I wrote and if it doesn't work, maybe we can try this |
16:41:35 | pamaury | I need to go, I'll be back at 21h |
16:41:49 | copper | alright |
16:42:00 | copper | what about the iPod Classic, should I bisect that too? |
16:51:02 | kugel | sure, if you have time |
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16:53:35 | kugel | I'm investiating the black blocks in the sim UI, perhaps that's related |
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16:54:22 | kugel | pamaury: is there static data that is specific to that lcd type? |
16:57:52 | kugel | copper: can you try the rockbox_default theme? |
16:58:37 | copper | the what? |
16:58:41 | copper | oh |
16:59:09 | copper | rockbox_failsafe or rockbox_default_icons? |
16:59:31 | kugel | failsafe, sorry |
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17:00:05 | copper | bug still there |
17:00:18 | copper | on the Fuze+ that is |
17:01:54 | kugel | the bad commit also introduces the black blocks in the sim ui |
17:02:45 | copper | oh? |
17:03:29 | kugel | yea, it'ss getting weirder |
17:08:03 | copper | I'm not sure that's a good thing. |
17:11:00 | PurlingNayuki | Songs0fFailure: Anything can help? |
17:11:15 | Songs0fFailure | yes :) |
17:11:40 | PurlingNayuki | I just updated G#697, feeling a little tired. |
17:11:41 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #697 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/697 : by PurlingNayuki (changes/97/697/18) |
17:21:31 | PurlingNayuki | JdGordon: G#697 updated:-( |
17:21:33 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #697 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/697 : by PurlingNayuki (changes/97/697/18) |
17:22:06 | kugel | copper: try http://pastie.org/8626702 |
17:23:46 | copper | ok |
17:24:22 | copper | I'm still just running 'make bin' |
17:24:32 | kugel | thats fine |
17:25:43 | copper | hmmm |
17:28:45 | copper | kugel: bug is gone! |
17:28:59 | copper | scrolling text works too |
17:29:03 | kugel | great |
17:29:23 | kugel | what a strange buf |
17:29:25 | kugel | bug* |
17:29:38 | kugel | but yea, it's entirely my bug, not specific to the fuze+s lcd type |
17:29:54 | copper | uh |
17:29:59 | copper | so, what the hell? |
17:30:40 | copper | I'm trying hard to cause the bug to show |
17:32:19 | copper | nope, seems gone |
17:34:48 | copper | great job! |
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17:40:31 | kugel | copper: try ipod6g again with this fix |
17:40:40 | kugel | overflows can cause all sorts of weird problems |
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17:44:42 | copper | ok |
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17:48:30 | copper | kugel: you just committed that fix, right? |
17:49:57 | kugel | yes |
17:50:24 | copper | ok |
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17:54:02 | kugel | toehser1: can you check if the latest commit also fixes your scrolling problem? |
17:56:19 | copper | I made a full build of HEAD for the Fuze+ and made a clean install with my updated themes: everything works great |
17:56:25 | copper | now, on to the iPod Classic |
17:57:48 | kugel | are the updated themes downloadable? |
17:58:03 | copper | not yet |
17:58:10 | copper | I'll put them on my web site first |
17:59:08 | SovonHalder | https://outpost.fr/ |
17:59:14 | SovonHalder | this site. right ? |
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18:00:16 | copper | https://outpost.fr/rockbox/Googley-FuzePlus-All-2014-01-12.zip |
18:00:24 | copper | https://outpost.fr/rockbox/Googley-Classic-All-2014-01-12.zip |
18:00:28 | copper | SovonHalder: wait |
18:00:39 | copper | I haven't confirmed that the Classic works yet |
18:00:48 | copper | those archives won't work with an old build |
18:00:58 | SovonHalder | I've been waiting all day.. :) it's okay..please take your time |
18:01:10 | SovonHalder | I can wait a week or two.. :D |
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18:05:31 | Sovon | the freezing thing with latest iPod classic rockbox versions were irrespective of themes. iPod froze even on cabbiv2. when approximately will a proper fixed version of rockbox for ipod classic be released ? |
18:05:55 | copper | kugel: everything works great with HEAD on the iPod Classic :D |
18:05:58 | Sovon | I'm currently using 16th Dec 2013 version with your Googley Classic Green |
18:06:25 | Sovon | waiting for rockbox fix...then will upgrade with your updated themes |
18:06:58 | kugel | copper: awesome |
18:07:11 | copper | was gonna say: this is awesome |
18:07:49 | kugel | I installed your fine themes on my ypr0, they are really ncie |
18:07:54 | copper | your work makes a huge difference |
18:08:46 | copper | now there's just the FMS artwork loading thing |
18:08:52 | copper | but that's really minor |
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18:09:07 | copper | i.e. the artwork doesn't load when first entering the FMS |
18:09:15 | copper | it loads after exiting the FMS or changing stations |
18:11:36 | copper | Sovon: as soon as you can download a build from HEAD (193911af760d460198fc7f08bf6da824f74975b7), you can install the new archive I linked to (the Classic one) |
18:11:59 | Sovon | what ? |
18:12:03 | Sovon | HEAD ? |
18:12:07 | copper | I updated them to remove the workarounds that are no longer necessary, and I also added a visually indication of the hold switch |
18:12:17 | copper | visual* |
18:13:40 | Sovon | what did you mean by - 'you can download a build from HEAD (193911af760d460198fc7f08bf6da824f74975b7)' ? |
18:14:13 | copper | I mean a build of the iPod Classic port that's built from the very latest revision |
18:16:43 | Sovon | till this afternoon the latest version of rockbox for classic was 6e882b4...which had the freezing bug |
18:16:52 | Sovon | is it fixed now? |
18:17:39 | copper | yup, everything is fixed, as far as I can tell |
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18:17:55 | copper | you want build 193911a |
18:18:13 | Sovon | I'm checking right now |
18:18:29 | kugel | http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipod6g.zip |
18:19:58 | copper | kugel is now officially my new personal hero |
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18:20:59 | copper | feels good when all the time and effort really pay off |
18:22:06 | Sovon | it's 193911a-140112 . .loading it right now :) |
18:22:46 | copper | Sovon: I suggest completely erasing /.rockbox and unpacking the build and theme archive and start from scratch |
18:23:11 | Sovon | okay |
18:23:19 | copper | my updated themes use new files and no longer use some old files |
18:23:46 | copper | I also dropped the A14/A19/B14/B19 variants |
18:24:03 | copper | takes too damn long to update them, and they're pretty much useless anyway |
18:24:29 | copper | in order to get the behavior that you like, just set the "status bar" setting in the theme settings menu to either "top" or "bottom" |
18:24:47 | Sovon | okay |
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18:24:54 | Sovon | glad to hear it's still there |
18:24:56 | Sovon | :) |
18:25:04 | copper | sure, I wasn't going to remove it |
18:25:36 | copper | after you've made sure that everything works well, I suggest making a full backup of your /.rockbox directory |
18:25:57 | copper | i.e. zip it and save the zip file somewhere safe |
18:25:58 | Sovon | why ? |
18:26:15 | copper | just so that you have a fully working backup in case there's a new bug later in some newer revision |
18:26:32 | copper | so that you can revert back to your working setup |
18:26:59 | Sovon | ah!..that's what i learnt today...around October the versions were fine perfectly.. |
18:27:14 | Sovon | but now they are more or less buggy |
18:27:26 | toehser1 | I'll check when I can but probably have to go out before build will be done, 90% it will be >6hrs til I can test it. |
18:27:38 | Sovon | i'll backup as soon as i see everything is a-okay |
18:28:21 | toehser1 | Maybe if I just make instead of make clean... |
18:28:34 | copper | Sovon: actually what happened here, is that kugel fixed a whole bunch of theme bugs, that my old themes had workarounds for |
18:28:44 | copper | so, yes, it worked, but only barely |
18:28:58 | copper | the slighest modifications would run me into those theme bugs |
18:29:13 | copper | so, updating my themes (or making new ones) was very difficult and annoying |
18:29:29 | copper | now kugel has fixed all that, and I have fixed my themes as well |
18:29:59 | copper | plus the addition of the hold switch indicator (it changes the storage indicator from dots to vertical bars) |
18:30:02 | toehser1 | quick check it seems ok now |
18:30:09 | Sovon | what about future? will your themes be compatible with future rockbox versions ? |
18:30:20 | copper | they should be, barring some new bugs |
18:30:41 | copper | actually they are now "correct", they weren't before |
18:30:55 | copper | they weren't before, because I had to work around the theme bugs |
18:31:09 | copper | so the old situation was far from ideal |
18:31:12 | copper | it's much better now |
18:32:25 | copper | and I'll probably be more motivated to make changes or make new themes now |
18:32:55 | copper | because I won't be running into those bullshit bugs that had completely unpredictable consequences |
18:33:20 | copper | it's like my old themes were hanging by a thread |
18:33:27 | Sovon | :D |
18:33:27 | copper | or duct tape |
18:34:07 | copper | like, I had to include a specific number of empty lines at some place in my theme markup, just so that a bug wouldn't show |
18:34:24 | copper | one empty line too many or too few, bam, the whole thing would break |
18:35:10 | copper | now, I'll be curious to see if other theme authors come here to complain that their themes no longer work :P |
18:35:19 | copper | or users |
18:37:32 | toehser1 | So far seems to work on the real hardware too. |
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18:45:24 | Sovon | I deleted the .rockbox folder containing 16th Dec 2013 rockbox for classic 6g..copied the .rockbox folder of very latest 193911a-140112...installed fonts pack..installed Googley-Classic-All-2014-01-12 |
18:46:05 | Sovon | seems okay..is NOT freezing :D |
18:47:03 | Sovon | Things to report: album art for a particular songs aren't showing..(they were showing 10 minutes ago on a 20 days old rockbox) |
18:48:47 | Sovon | when I changed status bar to Top (a song was playing in the background), the song stopped for 2-3 seconds & started from the beginning. is this supposed to happen ? |
18:51:33 | Sovon | copper: you here ? |
18:53:01 | kugel | toehser1: sounds good, let me know on the tracker if/when I can close this issue |
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18:56:25 | kugel | copper: are the lines empty lines? |
18:57:04 | kugel | they're gone from your files at least |
18:58:30 | Sovon | guys, no cd covers are being loaded..of all my albums |
18:58:42 | Sovon | it didn't used to be this way |
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19:01:12 | kugel | embedded or external? |
19:06:55 | Sovon | external |
19:07:04 | Sovon | about 100 KB sized each |
19:07:18 | Sovon | in 400x400 to 500x500 in dimension |
19:07:39 | Sovon | I've been seeing these very covers for last 5-6 months..it's not showing now |
19:08:24 | kugel | my folder.jpg's an embedded covers still work |
19:09:00 | copper | my external cover.jpg files work too |
19:09:21 | Sovon | mine's are also cover.jpg |
19:09:38 | Sovon | maybe the problem is from my end |
19:09:53 | copper | Sovon: the restarting thing when changing themes and theme settings happens for me too… I don't know if it's intended, but it's harmless |
19:10:20 | copper | Sovon: also, re-initialize the database, since you likely deleted it |
19:10:32 | kugel | it's kind of intended |
19:10:41 | copper | kugel: no more empty lines that I can see |
19:11:01 | copper | only one empty line between each block for readability |
19:11:23 | kugel | nice |
19:11:36 | kugel | not sure how I fixed that but great :) |
19:11:53 | copper | there are still very long conditional lines, I didn't test where new line characters are allowed, and where they are not |
19:12:25 | Sovon | fuck me.. |
19:12:28 | Sovon | one reboot |
19:12:38 | Sovon | & the artworks are showing perfectly okay now |
19:12:42 | Sovon | :D |
19:12:43 | copper | there you go :) |
19:12:59 | Sovon | there is a huge difference though..I mean |
19:13:30 | Sovon | I've been using the 16th Dec version for a couple of hours...but now I see the most latest version is way faster |
19:13:52 | Sovon | seriously..at least 3 times faster ..awesome works guys..love you all |
19:13:54 | copper | that may also be due to starting over with a clean setup |
19:14:06 | copper | I observed that as well in the past |
19:14:09 | Sovon | I don't think so.. |
19:14:26 | Sovon | the 16th dec version...i also installed that with a fresh installation |
19:14:35 | Sovon | but that was sloooow |
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19:14:59 | Sovon | current one is A-Okay.. |
19:15:10 | copper | make sure to make a backup |
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19:15:19 | Sovon | I' will |
19:15:52 | * | kugel wonders what makes things appear faster |
19:16:00 | copper | Rockbox code affects so many different targets, that some innocent looking code can produce the weirdest bugs on some targets, like we just saw |
19:16:14 | kugel | pretty sure there was no commit that made anything explicitely faster |
19:16:42 | Sovon | btw..it would be way cooler if rockbox website had a page or a forum that had a Developer's Pick version.. |
19:16:47 | copper | kugel: when I saw the bug on the fuze+, it was indeed very slow |
19:16:48 | kugel | copper: or no bugs at all on other targets (like mine) |
19:17:01 | copper | very laggy |
19:17:17 | copper | and skip on ABI also reported long loading times |
19:17:22 | copper | so, who knows |
19:18:48 | Sovon | Using the Storm theme..it's good for eyes.. :D |
19:19:02 | copper | I use the Clippy theme on both targets |
19:19:06 | copper | I love the retro look |
19:19:25 | copper | makes my iPod look like it's coming from some alternate universe :P |
19:19:50 | fs-bluebot | Build Server message: New build round started. Revision 09e655f, 249 builds, 35 clients. |
19:26:05 | Sovon | new build ??? again ? |
19:27:17 | Sovon | shouild I upgrade once more now ? |
19:27:56 | kugel | not necessary no |
19:29:33 | Sovon | what's new anyway ? |
19:29:57 | kugel | you can read the commit log on our front page |
19:30:19 | fs-bluebot | Build Server message: Build round completed after 629 seconds. |
19:30:37 | copper | kugel: looks like the black areas in the sim are gone too |
19:30:42 | kugel | copper: thank you for your patience and that you didn't give up when you were so frustrated a few days ago |
19:30:42 | lebellium | the commit log is not necessarily understandable by a non-dev \o/ |
19:30:43 | copper | the glitches |
19:31:06 | copper | kugel: you started it! |
19:31:27 | copper | lebellium: better test your themes |
19:31:28 | gevaerts | lebellium: neither is the UI :) |
19:31:54 | copper | unless I'm the only sorry dude who had problems |
19:31:56 | kugel | yes, I was hunting the black blocks |
19:32:18 | kugel | that lead me to the overflow bug |
19:33:10 | kugel | FS #12916 seems fixed too, although that was reported before my put_line() work |
19:33:11 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12916 classic_statusbar freezes Clip+ (bugs, unconfirmed) |
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19:43:09 | copper | iPod Classic sim works fine too |
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19:46:55 | copper | should I upload my updated themes on the theme site now, and say in the description that it requires build XXXX and above, or should I wait for the next stable release (since my Classic themes work on the iPod Video too, which is a stable target)? |
19:47:24 | copper | I can just link to my own archives on the ABI thread in the mean time |
19:47:33 | copper | which reminds me, I need to update that thread |
19:54:25 | kugel | copper: you can update them |
19:54:44 | kugel | themes for targets for which no stable release exists implicitely require the current build |
19:55:00 | kugel | but mentioning it doesnt hurt |
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20:05:38 | copper | yeah but it won't work on the iPod Video |
20:07:19 | copper | hmmm, isn't version 3.14 right around the corner? |
20:08:14 | saratoga | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,46443.msg225072/topicseen.html |
20:08:20 | saratoga | is this wheel problem on the fuze known? |
20:09:41 | copper | any chance that's related to the scroll wheel being unresponsive on the iPod? |
20:09:56 | copper | a whole bunch of bugs were just fixed |
20:10:56 | copper | bugs that affected several targets (Fuze+, Classic and Video) in various weird ways |
20:14:10 | saratoga | IIRC the wheel on the fuze is polled, so starving its thread would probably explain erratic wheel operation |
20:14:52 | saratoga | also i hate stream of consciousness bug reports |
20:15:50 | copper | ? |
20:16:05 | kugel | saratoga: it's polled on the fuzev1 only |
20:16:32 | saratoga | ah |
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21:06:42 | pamaury | copper: here ? |
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21:16:47 | kugel | pamaury: in case you missed, the lcd issues are gone |
21:16:54 | pamaury | really ? |
21:16:57 | pamaury | what was the issue ? |
21:17:16 | kugel | it was my bug, with strange adverse effects |
21:17:50 | pamaury | your fault ! ;) |
21:18:03 | pamaury | very strange indeed |
21:18:25 | pamaury | How did it manage to trigger such a weird effect ? |
21:18:41 | kugel | on the ipod6g it caused freezes, on the sim it caused black blocks on the player pic (outside the rockbox ui!) |
21:19:09 | kugel | and on teh clipzip apparently "only" lines that stop scrolling randomly |
21:20:02 | kugel | pamaury: write somewhere past the lcd framebuffer. the lcd_puts* functons don't do bound checks and I missed to do these in the caller |
21:21:16 | pamaury | good that you found out :) |
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21:51:18 | saratoga | any other changes that should be mentioned here? http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/MajorChanges |
21:55:11 | kugel | saratoga: is USB fixed for real? |
21:55:18 | kugel | lebellium: ping |
21:55:35 | lebellium | kugel: pong |
21:55:36 | kugel | saratoga: radio art is re-enabled |
21:56:00 | kugel | lebellium: there were usb issues with your theme |
21:56:04 | kugel | is this still the case? |
21:56:23 | saratoga | i don't think its fixed, but its probably less likely to corrupt themes and such |
21:56:33 | saratoga | so in that sense its improved |
21:58:32 | saratoga | is FS #12883 still a problem? a lot has changed on the fuze+ and opus since then |
21:58:33 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12883 Opus becomes unresponsive at lowest CPU frequency (bugs, unconfirmed) |
21:58:35 | lebellium | kugel: I only tried a few times one or 2 weeks ago after the "1st USB fix". It seemed to work better but I should try again and longer with the latest build |
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22:01:41 | kugel | lebellium: please do that |
22:03:42 | lebellium | kugel: I'm quite busy so I don't follow carefully the discussions here but I saw you talked about RDS here. I don't know if it was related to FS #12759 |
22:03:42 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12759 Various RDS issues (Clip Zip, YP-R0) (bugs, unconfirmed) |
22:06:03 | copper | FS #12932 |
22:06:04 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12932 FMS artwork fails to load upon entering the FMS (bugs, unconfirmed) |
22:06:24 | kugel | lebellium: no. however a quick test gives good RDS text |
22:06:54 | kugel | lebellium: where can I find the most recent version of your theme? |
22:07:27 | lebellium | the problem is that when I reported the RDS bug, I was in Berlin where the FM signal was strong. Here in Paris suburbs, it's too weak to get RDS data |
22:07:43 | lebellium | kugel: on the theme website |
22:08:00 | * | pamaury manage to get some RDS in Paris suburbs |
22:08:07 | kugel | I am in Berlin and had RDS issue the last time I looked at it |
22:08:08 | pamaury | not on all stations, admitted |
22:08:23 | saratoga | FS #12931 is fixed too right |
22:08:23 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12931 Fields "stop being scrolling fields" until reset by navigating out of WPS. (bugs, unconfirmed) |
22:09:04 | kugel | saratoga: we're waiting for definite confirmation |
22:09:09 | kugel | but it looks like |
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22:10:59 | lebellium | I'll do some tests about USB and RDS and let you know later tonight or tomorrow |
22:12:13 | kugel | lebellium: the "remove %s for %tz" part should not be an issue anymore |
22:12:20 | kugel | re FS #12759 |
22:12:20 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12759 Various RDS issues (Clip Zip, YP-R0) (bugs, unconfirmed) |
22:12:44 | lebellium | really? nice! |
22:12:51 | kugel | copper confirmed %s now works with RDS info |
22:14:46 | kugel | lebellium: RDS info looks great at the moment with your theme |
22:14:54 | lebellium | kugel: which target? |
22:15:02 | kugel | R0 |
22:15:16 | lebellium | no crash anymore? That would be so nice! |
22:15:45 | kugel | yea, no crash with AA font |
22:15:57 | kugel | no blinking, no strange characters (I rememeber these |
22:17:05 | lebellium | I thought that would never be fixed! |
22:17:15 | lebellium | thank you kugel and copper |
22:19:03 | kugel | lebellium: could you double check if all the problems in FS #12759 are gone? (after checking the USB thing) |
22:19:03 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12759 Various RDS issues (Clip Zip, YP-R0) (bugs, unconfirmed) |
22:20:33 | lebellium | kugel: not right now but later sure :) |
22:21:01 | kugel | cool |
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22:29:56 | * | kugel would be too nice to be true if all those weird-ass bugs and crashes would be gone for good now |
22:30:05 | kugel | s,/me,it, |
22:30:27 | kugel | but one can still dream :> |
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22:33:28 | copper | yeah I confirm that scrolling RDS data works on the actual device (Fuze+) |
22:33:46 | copper | kugel: that's a lot of them already |
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22:35:39 | copper | the RDS weirdness comes from the fact that its content gets incremented until it's complete |
22:35:54 | copper | I assume that's how it's broadcast or something? |
22:36:13 | copper | once the RDS content is complete, it scrolls like normal metadata |
22:46:21 | copper | maybe it's a trick they found to animate the RDS data on car stereos and such |
22:46:26 | copper | (totally talking out of my ass here) |
22:51:17 | kugel | copper: I know too little about RDS to tell if this is the right behavior |
22:51:33 | kugel | but it's ever been like this in Rockbox |
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22:59:02 | * | [Saint] should probably see if his case of "have to include empty lines just to stop the theme from imploding" are fixed. |
22:59:30 | [Saint] | you can see the ugliness i need to do in my github cabbie variant. |
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23:00:15 | [Saint] | (other themes aren't immune, im just the only one that seems to use touchscreen variable state checking |
23:00:17 | [Saint] | ) |
23:00:53 | kugel | touchscreen cabbiev2 in git uses skin variables |
23:01:19 | [Saint] | I'll have to see how youre missing the bug then. |
23:01:39 | [Saint] | I need to include more blank lines than my AA viewport is high. |
23:02:01 | [Saint] | Otherwise the variable check draws a fat grey box over AA. |
23:02:18 | kugel | would be nice if you could re-check that |
23:02:41 | [Saint] | Which can be pushed around by adding/subtracting blank lines. |
23:02:57 | [Saint] | My "solution" was to push it out of bounds. |
23:03:37 | [Saint] | I should've been more strict on bug reports. |
23:03:54 | [Saint] | Instead of agreeing to "remind me later". |
23:04:23 | [Saint] | Which had less than stellar results, and was rather soul sucking at times. |
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23:32:45 | copper | [Saint]: the empty lines thing to "push the bug out of bounds" was fixed in my case |
23:33:14 | copper | so you should check with HEAD indeed |
23:34:12 | copper | unless I'm misunderstanding |
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23:35:06 | [Saint] | sounds like a very _similar_ bug indeed. |
23:35:47 | [Saint] | But this one is specific to touchscreen variable set/get/inc/dec |
23:36:47 | [Saint] | copper: out of interest, did your case also draw N lines of grey overtop of where it interfered? |
23:37:03 | [Saint] | Where N == Lines Of Offending Code |
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23:39:46 | copper | in my case I got grey lines yes, and my fix was also to add N empty lines to "push it out of bounds" |
23:40:55 | [Saint] | Which tag(s) showed this for you? |
23:41:34 | copper | %Vl() %Vf() and %s and metadata tags |
23:41:53 | copper | I mean blocks made of the above sequence |
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