| 00:00:31 | [Saint] | it should, yes. |
| 00:00:40 | gevaerts | I wouldn't expect a failed first database init to come back to haunt you after a reboot though |
| 00:00:54 | [Saint] | no, that is odd. |
| 00:01:08 | gevaerts | It also doesn't explain why the OF is being equally difficult |
| 00:02:22 | [Saint] | No. It doesn't. I just wanted to point out that the Rb Database init wasn't ever going to complete. |
| 00:02:33 | [Saint] | I have no idea of the underlying issue. |
| 00:05:09 | gevaerts | Hmmm |
| 00:06:30 | gevaerts | Does the clip+ have a reset settings onboot button? |
| 00:06:56 | gevaerts | Also, is it scanning for the database, or for dircache? |
| 00:08:41 | dizzylizzy | Interesting |
| 00:08:53 | gevaerts | ok, no reset settings button |
| 00:09:25 | dizzylizzy | I was aware of the not having any media files problem, but only after I started having this problem, and I can't put any media files on to test it. I could insert my microSD card, but now that the player will not power on whatsoever that won't help much |
| 00:11:09 | gevaerts | The question is, is it powered off, or is it powered on with the screen off? |
| 00:11:57 | gevaerts | If the former, I'd say there's something fundamentally broken. If the latter, if holding power for a minute or so doesn't help, waiting for the battery to run down should |
| 00:12:01 | [Saint] | sensitive iems or an amp will tell. |
| 00:12:16 | [Saint] | (if its on) |
| 00:13:18 | toehser1 | What does it do when you go through the sequence -power button for over one minute -hold center button while plugging into USB |
| 00:13:33 | toehser1 | holding power button for over a minute should _ensure_ it is off |
| 00:13:58 | toehser1 | plugging into USB then should do _something_, best bet is with center held |
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| 00:15:43 | gevaerts | toehser1: I'm not sure how that's different from booting and then plugging in |
| 00:16:33 | toehser1 | OF has a special thing about what happens when it plugs in with center button, and I think RB respects it, at least, it does different things for me. |
| 00:17:33 | gevaerts | as far as rockbox is concerned, holding a button while detecting USB just makes it not do USB |
| 00:17:45 | toehser1 | booting then plugging I get the usb screen icon and both drives (internal and sd) |
| 00:18:03 | toehser1 | plugging while center from off, I get a black screen and only the internal drive, not the sd drive |
| 00:18:11 | gevaerts | Well, "not do USB" is a bit inaccurate, but close enough in this case :) |
| 00:18:41 | toehser1 | but the dmesg says rockbox so I don't think I'm getting OF version of it. |
| 00:18:59 | toehser1 | But definitely DIFFERENT than booting and plugging. and definitely NOT "not do USB". |
| 00:19:11 | gevaerts | Hmmm |
| 00:19:41 | gevaerts | Sounds like bootloader behaviour then |
| 00:19:44 | * | gevaerts looks at code |
| 00:20:07 | gevaerts | Ah, yes |
| 00:20:28 | gevaerts | I said I'm not too familiar with the clips I think :) |
| 00:20:40 | gevaerts | So yes, that's definitely worth a try |
| 00:22:21 | gevaerts | That's *before* the bootloader tries to access the filesystem, so any filesystem corruption shouldn't be an issue here and be fixable from the host |
| 00:24:24 | toehser1 | I was able to get into the Sansa USB, also - I held *BOTH* the "left" and "center" while plugging from off - and made it into Sansa USB without the refreshing-media crap. |
| 00:27:05 | toehser1 | Looks like that is the same as just holding "left" while plugging USB from "off". |
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| 00:42:26 | saratoga | is there some reason theres no bootloader USB mode on the AMSv2 series? |
| 00:42:35 | saratoga | seems like an obvious way to avoid problems like that |
| 00:42:46 | saratoga | i thought we had it workign at one point |
| 00:43:56 | toehser1 | Isn't what I just described with "hold the center button while plugging into USB with power off" a "bootloader USB mode"? |
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| 00:46:04 | saratoga | looking at the bootloader source now |
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| 12:38:54 | bluebrother^ | hmm. So my forum signature has some messed up characters in it, but when I try to change it I run into the size limit of 255 characters with the [url]s in it. Any chance to work around this? |
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| 14:04:26 | kugel | PurlingNayuki: ping |
| 14:06:15 | PurlingNayuki | kugel: pong |
| 14:06:33 | kugel | PurlingNayuki: you mentioned USB problems. can you try the latest build again? |
| 14:06:51 | kugel | i fixed a possible memory corruption |
| 14:07:43 | PurlingNayuki | sure will try, but not now |
| 14:08:11 | PurlingNayuki | Tomorrow later? |
| 14:09:07 | PurlingNayuki | And USB works sometimes actually −− at least for today morning when I tried to copy some musics |
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| 16:08:23 | kugel | PurlingNayuki: thanks again for your lcd sizes list |
| 16:08:34 | kugel | PurlingNayuki: I integrated that and updated the list separator branch |
| 16:13:38 | PurlingNayuki | kugel: Uh.. Where's the list? |
| 16:14:05 | kugel | g#729 |
| 16:14:08 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #729 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/729 : by Thomas Martitz (changes/29/729/1) |
| 16:15:18 | PurlingNayuki | Sorry I didn't notice the new commit.. |
| 16:15:41 | PurlingNayuki | What do you think about G#727? |
| 16:15:42 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #727 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/727 : by Purling Nayuki (changes/27/727/1) |
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| 16:25:40 | kugel | looks goo |
| 16:25:42 | kugel | d |
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| 16:29:26 | bluebrother^ | wtf ... why doesn't the bot terminate when I'm trying to shut it down? |
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| 16:33:32 | kugel | bluebrother^: did you see FS #12947 ? |
| 16:34:21 | bluebrother^ | yes |
| 16:34:30 | bluebrother^ | it's not really much of a problem though |
| 16:34:49 | bluebrother^ | and somewhat non-trivial with the current approach |
| 16:35:17 | bluebrother^ | since "installing" the manual can be done separately, and in that case there's (currently) no way to figure the "correct" one |
| 16:36:08 | bluebrother^ | plus, given that the manual isn't updated that often (and release manuals thus aren't too accurate anyway) I'm seeing this as a minor problem :) |
| 16:36:59 | kugel | there is a "won't fix" close reason for that situation |
| 16:37:34 | kugel | although I think it would be nice if it could be fixed, perhaps by looking at what version is selected in the other tab |
| 16:38:26 | kugel | or by creating a similar drop down menu in the manual tab |
| 16:39:31 | bluebrother^ | there are ways to address this so it's not something that qualifies for "won't fix" imo |
| 16:39:52 | bluebrother^ | could be "later" though :) |
| 16:40:10 | bluebrother^ | anyways, I'm going to look into this. No idea when / how long it will take though |
| 16:40:26 | kugel | right but if you aren't going to work on this because it's too minor is pretty much a "won't fix" (you still acknowledge it's a bug, otherwise it would be "Not a bug") |
| 16:40:40 | kugel | okay |
| 16:41:33 | kugel | perhaps the release / current / rc selection could be promoted so it applies for all tabs |
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| 16:42:26 | bluebrother^ | that's one option |
| 16:42:38 | bluebrother^ | another one would be to merge the manual tab with the Installation one |
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| 16:43:10 | bluebrother^ | which kinda would make sense. |
| 16:43:33 | bluebrother^ | and maybe make the Manual tab display the HTML manual directly. Though that would need some work for proxy handling |
| 16:43:44 | bluebrother^ | unless Qt supports this now. It didn't some years back |
| 16:44:16 | kugel | good idea |
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| 16:45:18 | bluebrother^ | oh, nice |
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| 17:07:17 | ildarion | Hi there ! |
| 17:08:17 | bluebrother^ | where? |
| 17:08:33 | ildarion | I was able to update my Sansa Fuze + on Bootloader V2 (OF dosen't trigger before) but now, when I plug it on Windows, the device seem to be not detected |
| 17:08:45 | ildarion | It's normal or .... ? |
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| 17:32:57 | gevaerts | bluebrother^: I've now increased the signature limit to 300. Shout if that's still not enough |
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| 18:41:38 | ildarion | Hey, i Just upadate my Sansa Fuze + with the bootloader V2 and now, windows don't detect the device, it's normal ? |
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| 18:49:15 | ildarion | When my sansa is OFF, I plug, and he stay with a black screen. If I do the same with volum down, same |
| 18:49:29 | ildarion | I have no idea what to do |
| 18:51:33 | ildarion | With rockbox ON and plug : USB Keypad Mode, the device is detected by windows by "unknow" |
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| 18:57:58 | ildarion | If i unplug when sansa was ON, seem to be block (need to force shutdown) |
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| 18:59:31 | ildarion | format using the OF can resolve this ? |
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| 19:11:08 | ildarion | weird.... Work on my other PC on XP, but on my win 7 no... But my other device, work on Win7, only sansa |
| 19:16:53 | ildarion | Yeah ! I succed ! |
| 19:17:12 | ildarion | I tunr on my sansa and during the loading screen, plug it |
| 19:24:20 | ildarion | just get this error when i plugged : http://titanpad.com/3D0XHuPWhn |
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| 19:31:24 | funman | ildarion: yeah, USB is buggy on some Sansas |
| 19:32:44 | kugel | hm |
| 19:33:03 | kugel | git HEAD seems to panic on boot on the hwcodec/Player |
| 19:33:27 | kugel | the indicated erroneous instruction is a simple pc-relative bt |
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| 19:36:59 | ildarion | it's a good idea if i format ? |
| 19:37:12 | ildarion | or it will be worse ? |
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| 19:42:21 | ildarion | after formating, issue sitll here |
| 19:42:35 | ildarion | So this is a bootloader issue ? |
| 19:44:51 | ildarion | I guess I will wait paumary |
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| 19:57:58 | pamaury | ildarion: ping |
| 19:59:08 | pamaury | funman: afaik USB is not particularly buggy on the Fuze+, contrary to the AMS based ones |
| 20:00 |
| 20:03:39 | ildarion | hey pamaury, i just posted a post on the forum |
| 20:04:00 | ildarion | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,26284.msg226410.html#msg226410 |
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| 20:06:35 | pamaury | I saw, it is strange because the V2 bootloader is supposed to be quite stable wrt to USB. If I understand correctly nothing happen when you plug your device ? |
| 20:07:15 | ildarion | before i format yes, or the device what no reconized |
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| 20:07:46 | pamaury | so you formatted and is it better ? |
| 20:07:48 | ildarion | I was able to connect him on win XP and copy my rockbox backup |
| 20:08:03 | ildarion | now, it' the same |
| 20:08:15 | pamaury | I doubt formatting would have any impact because the bootloader is not loaded from the file system |
| 20:08:18 | ildarion | I can only connect on OF MSC |
| 20:08:33 | ildarion | the device still unknow |
| 20:08:52 | pamaury | device is unknown under RB bootloader but not under OF ? |
| 20:09:34 | ildarion | No now, because i was format, i just have the OF (rockbox file was formated) |
| 20:11:09 | pamaury | oh you mean you reinstalled the OF without RB bootloader ? |
| 20:11:22 | ildarion | If i plug when my sansa is OFFi get really nothing |
| 20:11:49 | ildarion | the screen stay black and i need to reset with holding power |
| 20:11:53 | funman | pamaury: does it use the same controller? |
| 20:11:57 | pamaury | no |
| 20:12:12 | funman | then it's normal that it doesn't share the same sets of bugs ;) |
| 20:12:28 | pamaury | it doesn't sound like a USB bug, if the screen stays black |
| 20:13:01 | funman | I was refering to the data abort |
| 20:13:26 | funman | oh I didn't see that ildarion has a Fuze + ... sorry about this |
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| 20:14:14 | ildarion | I'm not sur i was reinstall OF without RB |
| 20:14:23 | ildarion | I was install RB |
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| 20:14:32 | ildarion | and after format under the OF |
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| 20:15:03 | ildarion | So now, I have the bootloader v2 (i guess) but not the rockbox file (formated) |
| 20:15:31 | ildarion | I maybe shouldn't format |
| 20:15:53 | ildarion | I was format using the option in OF |
| 20:15:55 | pamaury | ok so rockbox bootloader is still there |
| 20:16:00 | ildarion | yes |
| 20:16:11 | ildarion | the issue is : can't plug into windows |
| 20:16:25 | ildarion | so can't install using rockbox utility |
| 20:16:32 | pamaury | even in OF ? |
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| 20:16:43 | ildarion | in OF, just nothing happend |
| 20:16:50 | ildarion | scree stay black |
| 20:16:50 | [Saint] | Worth trying a less picky OS? |
| 20:17:11 | pamaury | hum, something very wrong must have happened, maybe bad storage |
| 20:17:45 | ildarion | before the update it was cool under the old bootloader :D |
| 20:18:13 | ildarion | but the alarm wasn't working^^ |
| 20:18:22 | [Saint] | It may be simply very poor timing for a HW failure. |
| 20:18:46 | pamaury | indeed, it is probably best to recover |
| 20:18:50 | [Saint] | I'm not sure how Rockbox could cause this directly. |
| 20:19:00 | bluebrother^ | who has access to the theme site? |
| 20:19:42 | bluebrother^ | it is missing the ipod6g |
| 20:19:42 | pamaury | ildarion: I'll be back in 30 min and explain you how to recover |
| 20:21:05 | ildarion | pamaury: ok, i'am not hurried. if i't long process maybe other day if you want |
| 20:25:20 | gevaerts | bluebrother^: it's not *missing* the ipod6g as such. It's just that we haven't really agreed that it should be there, given its "unusable" status |
| 20:26:23 | gevaerts | I think we should add it, but do we have a consensus? |
| 20:26:47 | gevaerts | stupid question, I know. this is *rockbox* :) |
| 20:26:49 | bluebrother^ | I agree we should add it. |
| 20:26:59 | bluebrother^ | so we two have a consensus I'd say :) |
| 20:27:26 | gevaerts | If we do it quickly enough, we can probably avoid people objecting in time :) |
| 20:27:35 | bluebrother^ | yes! |
| 20:28:36 | bluebrother^ | plus, we don't loose much anyway. |
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| 20:29:08 | bluebrother^ | we have the Ondas there as well and they are unusable according to the front page |
| 20:29:32 | bluebrother^ | so not having the ipod6g there because of its status doesn't make much sense in my book :) |
| 20:29:56 | gevaerts | There! |
| 20:30:34 | bluebrother^ | \o/ |
| 20:30:44 | bluebrother^ | thanks |
| 20:30:49 | bluebrother^ | user890104: ^^ |
| 20:31:05 | bluebrother^ | gevaerts: btw, Rockbox Utility uses the ipodvideo image |
| 20:31:09 | gevaerts | Of course now someone has to put a picture in the right place |
| 20:31:44 | [Saint] | chrisjj becomes relevant |
| 20:31:53 | gevaerts | I'm re-running checkwps on all themes. With any luck, that will give the thing some actual themes |
| 20:32:08 | [Saint] | and filter out some thatfailed since. |
| 20:32:13 | bluebrother^ | it currently shows 17 themes |
| 20:32:26 | user890104 | gevaerts: it is referred as "ipodclassic" not "ipod6g" in rbutil IIRC |
| 20:32:34 | bluebrother^ | user890104: wrong |
| 20:32:44 | bluebrother^ | http://themes.rockbox.org/rbutilqt.php?target=ipod6g&release=&revision=&rbutilver=1.4.0 |
| 20:32:45 | [Saint] | it _should_ be ipod6g |
| 20:32:52 | bluebrother^ | that definitely states "ipod6g" |
| 20:32:53 | [Saint] | everywhere |
| 20:33:33 | * | user890104 checks again |
| 20:33:51 | bluebrother^ | it _was_ ipodclassic some time in the past |
| 20:34:03 | bluebrother^ | but when cleaning up all the device names that was changed as well. IIRC. |
| 20:34:09 | bluebrother^ | at least these days it's ipod6g |
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| 20:34:42 | bluebrother^ | ah, here: |
| 20:34:48 | bluebrother^ | fs-bluebot: .describe e3cddc2e |
| 20:34:49 | fs-bluebot | bluebrother: I just crashed |
| 20:34:59 | bluebrother^ | oh, nice. Yet another thing that broke :( |
| 20:35:10 | bluebrother^ | well, that's the commit that changed it from ipodclassic to ipod6g |
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| 20:35:32 | gevaerts | user890104: you have a classic, I presume. Can you provide a nice svg we can use to generate all needed images? ;) |
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| 20:39:13 | user890104 | bluebrother^: yes, the target name is indeed fixed |
| 20:39:20 | copper | uh |
| 20:39:33 | copper | why are my theme not listed on the iPod Classic theme page? |
| 20:39:36 | copper | themes* |
| 20:40:10 | user890104 | gevaerts: how do i create the svg? i have a classic, but no design skills :) |
| 20:40:11 | copper | mines and lots others |
| 20:40:14 | gevaerts | copper: for now, I'm going with "because you're too impatient" |
| 20:40:23 | copper | ok ok :P |
| 20:40:31 | gevaerts | It's not *instant* |
| 20:40:51 | [Saint] | maybe some ISP "helpful" caching, too. |
| 20:43:27 | gevaerts | All I can say is that the checkwps run is still going |
| 20:44:15 | copper | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/6G_iPod.svg |
| 20:44:45 | [Saint] | cheat! |
| 20:45:04 | copper | http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:6G_iPod.svg |
| 20:45:06 | [Saint] | You...you...cheaterer...you. |
| 20:45:15 | copper | what |
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| 20:45:23 | copper | CC license |
| 20:45:29 | copper | it's perfect |
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| 20:46:01 | bluebrother^ | fs-bluebot: .describe e3cddc2e |
| 20:46:02 | fs-bluebot | bluebrother: I just crashed |
| 20:46:06 | bluebrother^ | hmm. Still? |
| 20:47:08 | * | gevaerts grumbles |
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| 20:47:59 | gevaerts | "You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor" is fair enough, but then I expect the author to specify this! |
| 20:51:06 | bluebrother^ | comparing the wikipedia image with our images it looks somewhat out of place |
| 20:51:19 | bluebrother^ | kinda too shiny :) |
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| 20:51:52 | gevaerts | I'm sure inkscape has an "add scratches" feature :) |
| 20:52:18 | bluebrother^ | well, swapping grey and white areas on the ipodvideo svn should do most of the work |
| 20:53:18 | gevaerts | Actually, yes, that may be a better option. That way, it will also keep our button names and things like that |
| 20:55:01 | bluebrother^ | http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/ipod6g-front.svg |
| 20:55:15 | bluebrother^ | that's the ipodvideo image with colors for scrollwheel and case swapped |
| 20:55:50 | bluebrother^ | hmm, whait |
| 20:55:53 | bluebrother^ | something went wrong |
| 20:56:53 | bluebrother^ | ah no, my bad. Was looking at the wrong file |
| 20:58:28 | * | gevaerts has something similar |
| 20:58:45 | gevaerts | Except I also swapped the select button colour :) |
| 20:59:54 | bluebrother^ | I just did that as well |
| 21:00 |
| 21:00:03 | bluebrother^ | after noticing the button names to be almost unreadable ;-) |
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| 21:00:30 | bluebrother^ | it might be a good idea to make those even a bit darker |
| 21:02:33 | bluebrother^ | updated |
| 21:03:14 | gevaerts | I'm not entirely sure about the while line near the edge |
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| 21:05:46 | bluebrother^ | updated once more |
| 21:05:52 | bluebrother^ | white line is now grey |
| 21:06:14 | gevaerts | I'm *also* not entirely sure why this checkwps run is so slow |
| 21:07:09 | gevaerts | That looks quite good I think |
| 21:07:24 | bluebrother^ | and select fixed |
| 21:08:02 | bluebrother^ | looks quite ok imo and without that rounded effect (which I guess wouldn't look too good when scaled down) |
| 21:09:40 | [Saint] | inscape can do texturing, yes. |
| 21:09:56 | [Saint] | And I'm fairly sure I have a convincing "burnished" texture somewhere. |
| 21:10:09 | [Saint] | *inkscape, too. |
| 21:10:53 | bluebrother^ | well, scale it to something like 47x80 for Rockbox Utility ... |
| 21:11:10 | bluebrother^ | nothing texture anymore. At least not visible :) |
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| 21:11:39 | bluebrother^ | and given that we don't have any 3d like effects on the other pictures I'd prefer to not add that for the ipod6g |
| 21:14:51 | gevaerts | scorche: ping |
| 21:15:30 | pamaury | ildarion: still here ? |
| 21:20:13 | gevaerts | scorche: never mind, I can't figure out what I actually want to ask :) |
| 21:20:13 | scorche | gevaerts: pong |
| 21:20:18 | gevaerts | ah :) |
| 21:21:06 | gevaerts | scorche: right. Any chance you could run a chown themes:www-data on themes.db-wal and themes.db-shm in the themesite's private directory? |
| 21:21:51 | gevaerts | Right now I can't access the database, so I can't check what the thing is doing |
| 21:22:39 | scorche | done |
| 21:23:06 | gevaerts | Thanks! |
| 21:24:34 | scorche | gevaerts: am i good to head to brunch? =) |
| 21:24:40 | gevaerts | Go ahead! |
| 21:25:52 | ildarion | pamaury i'm bussy this night, it's possible an other day ? |
| 21:26:29 | pamaury | ildarion: sure, maybe tomorrow ? |
| 21:26:55 | ildarion | when you are less bussy :D |
| 21:27:28 | ildarion | it's not hurrie for me |
| 21:28:30 | copper | gevaerts: the list of iPod Classic themes hasn't moved in the last 50 minutes |
| 21:28:35 | gevaerts | I know |
| 21:28:49 | pamaury | ildarion: tomorrow I should be available all evening |
| 21:29:11 | ildarion | ok ok, i will try to remember |
| 21:29:25 | ildarion | thanx for your assistance |
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| 21:44:22 | wodz | pamaury: Do you have images of yp-cp3 internals? |
| 21:45:55 | pamaury | wodz: no, good to remind me ^^ Let me find my tools to open it |
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| 21:47:24 | wodz | pamaury: I noted my findings on the wiki http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SamsungYPCP3 |
| 21:47:55 | pamaury | I saw that, great :) |
| 21:48:39 | wodz | I am now digging in gpio code which is huge mess. I am still not sure how buttons are handled actually |
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| 21:49:23 | [0xAF] | hello |
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| 21:50:10 | [0xAF] | i'm trying to compile RB for iPod Classic (target #29), but there are missing includes, like "lang.h" and "rockboxlogo.h" |
| 21:50:18 | [0xAF] | any ideas ? |
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| 21:51:31 | gevaerts | [0xAF]: are you building in a clean directory? |
| 21:51:34 | bluebrother^ | those are generated |
| 21:51:42 | bluebrother^ | run make clean, then try again |
| 21:51:59 | gevaerts | Check what's there after that make clean |
| 21:52:26 | [0xAF] | yup, in ./rockbox/build/ |
| 21:52:56 | [0xAF] | only these files: autoconf.h Makefile |
| 21:53:17 | gevaerts | ok, those are allowed |
| 21:53:22 | gevaerts | (and expected) |
| 21:53:39 | [0xAF] | and my wrapper script called "arm" to add PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH for the toolchain |
| 21:54:23 | gevaerts | How are you using that? |
| 21:54:50 | gevaerts | I mean, are you sourcing it, or just running it and expecting the environment to be changed after it exits? |
| 21:55:05 | wodz | build just fine here |
| 21:55:31 | [0xAF] | i'm hacking canon cameras and have few toolchains laying around, so i'm using arm-elf-eabi toolchain |
| 21:55:35 | [0xAF] | the "arm" script contents: |
| 21:55:39 | [0xAF] | #!/bin/bash |
| 21:55:40 | [0xAF] | export CROSS_COMPILE=arm-elf- |
| 21:55:40 | [0xAF] | export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/af/arm/arm-elf-toolchain/lib |
| 21:55:40 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK [0xAF] |
| 21:55:40 | [0xAF] | export PATH=$PATH:/home/af/arm/arm-elf-toolchain/bin |
| 21:55:40 | [0xAF] | $* |
| 21:55:59 | [0xAF] | calling it like this: "./arm make" |
| 21:56:00 | gevaerts | And you run ./arm make, presumably? |
| 21:56:07 | gevaerts | OK, that should work I'd expect |
| 21:56:18 | [0xAF] | works for canon dslr hacks |
| 21:56:32 | [0xAF] | and i see no reason for it to make troubles... |
| 21:56:35 | gevaerts | Hmm, wait |
| 21:56:54 | gevaerts | I don't know about that CROSS_COMPILE one |
| 21:57:16 | [0xAF] | copyed from canon hacks ... im using it there in the Makefile (to prefix the toolchain) |
| 21:57:23 | [0xAF] | it's not needed for RB actually |
| 21:57:36 | gevaerts | Well, configure uses CROSS_COMPILE for some stuff |
| 21:57:58 | [0xAF] | couldn't hurt IMO, since most other scripts use CROSS_COMPILE to prefix the toolchain |
| 21:58:00 | [0xAF] | i can remove it |
| 21:58:24 | [0xAF] | hah |
| 21:58:38 | [0xAF] | quite strange ... it seems it was breaking the compilation |
| 21:58:41 | [0xAF] | stupid me ... |
| 21:58:50 | [0xAF] | i should check where it's used in RB |
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| 21:59:22 | [0xAF] | thanks for the hint :) |
| 21:59:28 | gevaerts | No problem :) |
| 21:59:40 | gevaerts | copper: all themes should be there now |
| 22:00 |
| 22:01:48 | [0xAF] | unfortunately i should recompile the arm-eabi toolchain ... this one would not link the RB binary |
| 22:02:28 | gevaerts | Well, we do provide scripts to build one :) |
| 22:02:39 | [0xAF] | yeah... just looking at them ;) |
| 22:02:52 | [0xAF] | or it will be faster to get the VirtualMachine i guess... |
| 22:03:19 | wodz | building single crosscompiler is pretty fast |
| 22:03:41 | [0xAF] | will give it a try |
| 22:14:19 | pamaury | wodz: I didn't manage to open the YP-C3 so far |
| 22:14:54 | wodz | pamaury: thats unfortunate |
| 22:15:07 | pamaury | I wonder if it's not glued |
| 22:16:15 | pamaury | I'll keep trying, stay tuned |
| 22:17:06 | wodz | pamaury: I see only two gpios probed for state so maybe buttons are handled by adc |
| 22:18:14 | lebellium | wodz: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64069 |
| 22:19:14 | pamaury | oh wow, never heard of the YP M1 |
| 22:19:26 | lebellium | you should |
| 22:19:36 | pamaury | is it good ? |
| 22:19:43 | lebellium | it's the only player along with the Zune HD to have a Tegra chip |
| 22:19:54 | wodz | lebellium: Where did it come from? rk2706B is supposed to run at 200MHz max |
| 22:20:14 | lebellium | pamaury: read my review, as usual :P http://labo.generationmp3.com/2010/03/11/test-et-videos-du-samsung-yp-m1/ |
| 22:21:05 | wodz | heh not speaking that the core is arm7-ejs not arm7-ejc :P The same error as in rockchip datasheet |
| 22:21:10 | lebellium | wodz: from my contact at Samsung |
| 22:22:26 | copper | gevaerts: great, thanks! |
| 22:24:39 | wodz | if this is really rk2706b I'd love to see actual cpuid signature and maybe rom dump |
| 22:25:19 | lebellium | that may be wrong, you know, there are often mistakes in Samsung internal documentation :P |
| 22:25:57 | wodz | the type in core name is granted :-) |
| 22:26:45 | lebellium | but the audio DAC should be correct |
| 22:26:46 | wodz | anyway SDK never sets pll higher then 200MHz so this doesn't matter really |
| 22:27:26 | wodz | lebellium: judging from disasm it is either wm8750 or wm898x so this seems to match |
| 22:32:19 | wodz | I am still amazed by the volume of the dead code in rk firmware |
| 22:37:57 | user890104 | gevaerts bluebrother^: looks like all of the ipod6g themes are listed now (125 in total), i am trying to install all of them on my classic using rbutil, just to test if everything is fine |
| 22:38:25 | user890104 | uhm, it failed on the theme with id 995 |
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| 22:46:03 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 22:46:03 | * | [Saint] suddenly clicks that if checkwps let them through in the first place that it is unlikely to catch any other cases without a bit more poking |
| 22:46:19 | [Saint] | ...I have no idea why I thought that would "Just Work". |
| 22:46:42 | [Saint] | It needs a bit of a helping hand wrt allowable syntax apparently. |
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| 22:48:33 | [0xAF] | the ipod looses it's usb connection... and i can hear the hard disk ticking once ... sounds like it's off and then turned on, but at this time the usb connection resets ... and the ipod hangs at it's main menu (removing the usb screen)... needs restarting |
| 22:51:16 | [Saint] | Windows host? |
| 22:53:07 | [0xAF] | linux |
| 22:53:22 | [Saint] | Very odd. |
| 22:53:30 | [Saint] | Can you try the fallback image please? |
| 22:53:37 | [0xAF] | it started tonight ... i had no problems in the previous few days (since i have the ipod) |
| 22:53:44 | [Saint] | emCORE main menu - Tools - Run rockbox fallback |
| 22:53:46 | [0xAF] | fallback seems to work correctly |
| 22:53:54 | [Saint] | Very odd. |
| 22:54:16 | [Saint] | I mean, that is expected, but you seem to be the one guy with a linux host that sees issue here. |
| 22:54:27 | [0xAF] | hmm |
| 22:54:37 | [Saint] | Generally speaking, linux has been very permissive of the CLassic's USB issues. |
| 22:54:51 | [Saint] | I haven't ever managed to catch it reliably. |
| 22:55:09 | [Saint] | I don't think anyone actually has been able to when trying to debug this. |
| 22:55:12 | [0xAF] | if i leave the ipod this way (frozen), it turns the backlight off after the timeout ... then the keys will turn it back on, but i cant move over the menus ... so it's not totally dead |
| 22:55:14 | | Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 22:55:20 | [Saint] | ...Windows machines, however, well...yeah. |
| 22:55:36 | [Saint] | We managed to do *something* to piss them off royally over the past two years or so. |
| 22:55:46 | [0xAF] | my latop has only usb3 ports ...if that matters |
| 22:55:51 | [Saint] | No idea what. But, they really seem to hate the Classic USB in git head. |
| 22:56:02 | [Saint] | Yeah, that probably does matter. |
| 22:56:02 | [0xAF] | hm |
| 22:56:14 | [Saint] | Even though it technically shouldn;t matter at all, it definitely seems to. |
| 22:56:30 | [Saint] | emCORE installation falls over hard with USB3 for some reason. |
| 22:56:38 | [Saint] | NFI why. |
| 22:56:49 | [0xAF] | yeah, i had problems with samsung android devices ... their download mode is not quite working with usb3 ports |
| 22:56:57 | * | [Saint] nods |
| 22:57:01 | [Saint] | I have that issue as well. |
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| 22:57:46 | [0xAF] | i've installed emCORE, but the DFU (the 64mb partition) i had to wait about 10 mins to be able to mount it ... |
| 22:57:49 | [Saint] | As far as I understand it, it should be absolutely 100% backwards compatible (weird early version USB3 ports/cables aside). |
| 22:58:00 | [Saint] | That issue is know. |
| 22:58:16 | [Saint] | *known. |
| 22:58:21 | [0xAF] | the strange thing is that i had no problems in the past few days ... never |
| 22:58:55 | [Saint] | There's been nothing obvious committed in the past few days that I would expect to cause this. |
| 22:59:00 | [0xAF] | now it's damn crashing after few seconds |
| 22:59:08 | pamaury | wodz: I'm almost done with opening it, it's a real pain |
| 22:59:21 | [Saint] | It might be worth checking the disk itself. |
| 22:59:41 | [Saint] | These things are absolutely notorious for their terrible disk firmware, and shitting their own disks. |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:11 | [Saint] | smashing the heads against the platter is a fun thing they like to do to amuse themselves. |
| 23:00:41 | [0xAF] | [Saint]: i was thinking to replace the RB with my compilation ... the previous one was from 22.Jan (when i installed it for the first time)... the issue started with the 22th build ... it crashed when i was copying the RB binary... then i had to go to the failback image to put my newly compiled RB |
| 23:00:53 | [0xAF] | but it's failing with mine build too |
| 23:01:25 | [Saint] | I think it might be worth checking the filesystem and disk condition. |
| 23:01:31 | [0xAF] | did that |
| 23:01:36 | [0xAF] | there were fixes |
| 23:01:36 | [Saint] | Hmmm. |
| 23:01:51 | [0xAF] | havent checked the disk condition |
| 23:01:56 | [Saint] | But with the FS repaired, its still being a dick? |
| 23:02:04 | [0xAF] | yup |
| 23:02:05 | [Saint] | Hum. |
| 23:02:16 | [0xAF] | could it be a HDD problem ? |
| 23:02:41 | [0xAF] | just bought the ipod (second hand) few days ago ... so it's quite possible to be with broken disk... |
| 23:02:58 | [Saint] | It very well could be, yes. But there's a problem in determining this reliably/easily. |
| 23:03:20 | [Saint] | Since we wipe out the Original Firmware completely, wer can't check in diagnostic mode trivially. |
| 23:03:25 | [Saint] | *we can't |
| 23:03:50 | [0xAF] | can't i just 'dd' it to /dev/null and see if it reads ? |
| 23:03:53 | [Saint] | ...but, I have noticed that their diagnostic mode isn't guaranteed to give useful information to begin with, so, mah. I guess. |
| 23:04:18 | wodz | pamaury: Is it glued? |
| 23:04:34 | [Saint] | You could, I believe, yes. |
| 23:04:40 | [Saint] | It'll take a damn while, though. |
| 23:05:18 | pamaury | it's bizarre, it is glued but the design is mostly mechanical |
| 23:05:41 | [0xAF] | i wonder why the FB image is working |
| 23:05:41 | pamaury | I have it opened but there is still some plastic over the PCB, I need to find out how to remove it |
| 23:05:49 | [Saint] | I honestly can't think of a single other case where a Classic user has seen reproducible USB issues with a linux host. |
| 23:05:57 | [Saint] | There's always a first, I suppose. |
| 23:06:11 | [Saint] | If you had a Windows host, I wouldn;t be surprised in the slightest. |
| 23:06:29 | [Saint] | ...but this is slightly interesting. |
| 23:06:39 | [Saint] | I just wish I could offer up some usable information. |
| 23:06:40 | [0xAF] | [Saint]: then, the way to reproduce could be a broken disk ;) |
| 23:06:51 | [Saint] | Hahahaha. :) |
| 23:07:05 | [Saint] | I have had one of these crash and burn on me myself. |
| 23:07:39 | [Saint] | One day, fine, next day it booted and didn;t want to do anything except slam the heads into the platter, hard, in a rhythmic fashion. |
| 23:08:02 | [0xAF] | i can hear similar sound ... but rarely ... |
| 23:08:11 | [0xAF] | i though it's just the spinning of the disk (when it's off) |
| 23:08:35 | [Saint] | Right. We don;t seem to handle spindown correctly with CE_ATA. |
| 23:08:49 | [Saint] | It just kinda...abruptly kills power. |
| 23:08:59 | [0xAF] | yeah ... sounds just like that |
| 23:09:01 | [Saint] | Rather than nicely spinning down and halting. |
| 23:09:39 | [0xAF] | btw, if this keeps reproducing and it's not a broken disk... perhaps i could be of help somehow... providing some information ? |
| 23:09:51 | [Saint] | "ka-chunk!....Peeeewwww......" |
| 23:09:57 | [Saint] | That was a familiar sound to me. |
| 23:10:08 | [0xAF] | :) |
| 23:10:12 | [Saint] | Especially if you have fastboot enabled. |
| 23:10:33 | [Saint] | emCORE doesn't get nearly enough time to spin down the disk at boot beofre it hands off to Rockbox. |
| 23:10:43 | [0xAF] | one more thing i just mentioned .... when this was breaking... i was working only in the .rockbox folder ... once my disk is checked, i will try to dig into the music ... |
| 23:10:53 | [Saint] | So the drive just powers down, and then ROckbox takes over. And in between that it makes a godawful noise. |
| 23:11:38 | [Saint] | Just one of the dozen or so reasons its still classed as "unusable". :) |
| 23:12:11 | [0xAF] | btw, just thinking noisly ... could it be something related to the directory caches or similar ? or the RB using it's files while im digging there (shouldn't be a problem though) |
| 23:12:31 | [0xAF] | because in the past few days i had no problems with it, but i was working with my "music" folder only |
| 23:12:43 | [Saint] | Rockbox won;t be accessing the disk at all when connected via USB. |
| 23:12:52 | [0xAF] | mhm |
| 23:13:04 | [Saint] | s/connected/connected and mounted/ |
| 23:13:27 | [0xAF] | it changes the screen to USB mode once i connect it... even if it's not mounted |
| 23:14:14 | [Saint] | Right. The Nano2G does this too, the magic to detect a charger vs. a host is fairly complicated I believe. |
| 23:14:18 | [0xAF] | btw... is there a way to make the ipod detect the charger correctly ... it switches to usb mode once i put a charger .... it's not cool for using it in car... |
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| 23:14:31 | [Saint] | It thinks any power source is an opportunity to enumerate it seems. |
| 23:14:51 | [0xAF] | hmz |
| 23:14:52 | [Saint] | Just hold any button while plugging USB to subvert this behavior. |
| 23:14:55 | pamaury | damned, samsung really didn't want anyone to open this device |
| 23:15:04 | [Saint] | That says "I don;t want you to mount now" |
| 23:15:16 | [0xAF] | [Saint]: cool trick, thanks |
| 23:15:34 | lebellium | pamaury: removing the screw is not enough? |
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| 23:15:58 | [Saint] | Some DAP manufacturers *really* like glue. |
| 23:16:01 | [Saint] | Like, a lot. |
| 23:16:03 | wodz | pamaury: maybe they were ashamed of using rockchip SoC :P |
| 23:16:10 | [Saint] | Hahahaha |
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| 23:16:23 | lebellium | for Samsung it really depends on the device. The YP-Q2 is full of glue, the YP-R0 no |
| 23:16:42 | [0xAF] | [Saint]: it would be better if there is confirmation screen from RB, when the usb is plugged ... (at least for the devices where the charger/usb cannot be decided) |
| 23:16:58 | [Saint] | Isn't the battery glued to the LCD in one or both of those, lebellium |
| 23:17:04 | pamaury | wodz: it's a WM8988L |
| 23:17:08 | pamaury | lebellium: not quite |
| 23:17:28 | [Saint] | [0xAF]: how do you mean? |
| 23:17:32 | lebellium | the Samsung YP-CP3 was designed for the Russian and Chinese market. I harassed the Samsung France Product Manager to get in France too but since it was designed for "developing countries", Samsung thought shitty hardware would be enough for them :) |
| 23:18:18 | [0xAF] | [Saint]: when i plug the ipod to charger or computer, RB can ask if i want to mount it, or just charge it (or give 5 seconds timeout to press a key for mount mode)... this way the default will be charging mode |
| 23:18:22 | wodz | lebellium: Still I don't get why Samsung is not using its own SoCs |
| 23:18:36 | pamaury | I still haven't got access to the back of the PCB |
| 23:19:14 | wodz | at least in reference design the back of the PCB is not that interesting |
| 23:19:25 | [Saint] | [0xAF]: while I don't necessarily disagree, I think for most users that would be an annoyance. |
| 23:19:31 | pamaury | in this case there is the flash and the SoC |
| 23:19:40 | [Saint] | FOr most users, when they plug via USB, they will want the device to mount. |
| 23:19:41 | pamaury | on the front on the dac |
| 23:20:14 | lebellium | wodz: some Samsung players use a Samsung SoC such as YP-U3 but most of them don't indeed :) |
| 23:20:16 | pamaury | and some other small chip labelled 0219 CK60 925 |
| 23:20:18 | [0xAF] | [Saint]: this can be done for devices which do not make difference between charger/computer i guess ... and IMO in most of the cases you will want to charge it, instead of mount it |
| 23:20:41 | [0xAF] | [Saint]: besides, it could be an optional :) |
| 23:20:58 | [Saint] | [0xAF]: this is why we already have a system in place for selectively disabling enumeration. |
| 23:20:58 | pamaury | I have *not* idea how to remove to plastic cover, it seems impossible |
| 23:21:13 | [Saint] | For your case, you could trivially reverse the logic used. |
| 23:21:33 | [Saint] | You could just make it so you held the button to mount, instead of holding it to not mount. |
| 23:21:38 | lebellium | pamaury: seek and buy the Service Manual, there is always a dissasembly guide inside :P |
| 23:21:43 | [Saint] | very trivial change. |
| 23:21:53 | [0xAF] | [Saint]: good point ;) |
| 23:22:05 | [0xAF] | [Saint]: should look into the code ... any pointers where to look for it ? |
| 23:22:26 | [Saint] | probably somewhere in usb.c |
| 23:22:37 | [0xAF] | [Saint]: thanks |
| 23:22:56 | [0xAF] | [Saint]: btw so far the disk is ok ... |
| 23:23:11 | [Saint] | copper: no issues your end? |
| 23:23:12 | [0xAF] | can i provide any debug information to help you with the usb issue ? |
| 23:23:57 | [Saint] | dmesg after pluging might be mildly interesting. |
| 23:24:16 | [Saint] | When Rockbox does crash, what exactly happens? |
| 23:24:47 | wodz | pamaury: yeah, you need access to SoC or nand to force rkdfu rom mode. And this mode is the simplest and safest to experiment with the hardware :/ |
| 23:24:52 | [Saint] | Is there a panic message, or a segfault, or does it just hang? |
| 23:25:46 | [0xAF] | [Saint]: looks like bad hdd after all ... |
| 23:25:48 | [0xAF] | [84490.007416] FAT-fs (sdd): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck. |
| 23:25:51 | [0xAF] | [84568.173615] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number 27 |
| 23:25:54 | [0xAF] | [84568.230024] sd 27:0:0:0: [sdd] Unhandled error code |
| 23:25:56 | [0xAF] | [84568.230029] sd 27:0:0:0: [sdd] |
| 23:25:59 | [0xAF] | [84568.230031] Result: hostbyte=0x01 driverbyte=0x00 |
| 23:26:01 | [0xAF] | [84568.230033] sd 27:0:0:0: [sdd] CDB: |
| 23:26:04 | [0xAF] | [84568.230034] cdb[0]=0x2a: 2a 00 00 06 90 fc 00 00 01 00 |
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| 23:26:06 | [0xAF] | [84568.230040] end_request: I/O error, dev sdd, sector 3442656 |
| 23:26:09 | [0xAF] | [84568.230043] Buffer I/O error on device sdd, logical block 430332 |
| 23:26:11 | [0xAF] | [84568.230044] lost page write due to I/O error on sdd |
| 23:26:14 | [0xAF] | [84568.230163] FAT-fs (sdd): unable to read inode block for updating (i_pos 2639288) |
| 23:26:15 | [Saint] | someone's gunna get kicked... |
| 23:26:17 | [0xAF] | but it's because the usb is disconnected i guess |
| 23:26:34 | [0xAF] | sorry (will use pastebin in future) |
| 23:26:42 | [Saint] | You are so lucky chanserv didn't kick you for flooding. :) |
| 23:27:01 | [Saint] | Also, hmmm. |
| 23:27:03 | [0xAF] | just got the right amount of lines ;) |
| 23:27:50 | pamaury | hum, I think I see how to unmount it, it's incredibly weird |
| 23:27:57 | pamaury | not sure it can be done easily |
| 23:28:04 | [Saint] | If there is no data on the device that you care about, I would say just to use emCORE to format the data partition. |
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| 23:29:04 | [0xAF] | [Saint]: what good is that for ? I mean emCORE formated it few days ago ... and so far it was unmounted correctly ... so there should be no problems with the FS (until today) |
| 23:30:00 | [0xAF] | actually, what's the internal structure of the HDD ? more than one partition ? |
| 23:31:09 | [Saint] | superfloppy |
| 23:31:38 | [0xAF] | so no partitions ? |
| 23:31:51 | [0xAF] | just like how i see it in linux ? |
| 23:32:05 | [Saint] | No. But it will accept partitioning. |
| 23:32:31 | [Saint] | The default setup is just a superfloppy afaik, though. |
| 23:32:43 | [0xAF] | is there a point to have partitions there ? |
| 23:33:04 | pamaury | dammmmmmmn, this thing is insane |
| 23:33:18 | [Saint] | Depends on your use case. |
| 23:33:34 | pamaury | actually the proper way is probably to unsolder the LCD but I won't do that |
| 23:34:34 | wodz | what purpose this plastic part services (other then protect you from reaching the PCB)? |
| 23:35:01 | pamaury | afaik, none |
| 23:35:08 | wodz | cut it then |
| 23:35:42 | pamaury | well actually it holds everything in place |
| 23:35:57 | pamaury | it's stupid design but the way it is designed it looked needed |
| 23:36:16 | pamaury | and it's hard to cut without removing it but you're right it could be cut at the right spots |
| 23:36:29 | pamaury | still it's hard plastic |
| 23:36:35 | pamaury | not easy to cut with the PCB below |
| 23:36:51 | wodz | maybe melt it with solder tip |
| 23:38:15 | [Saint] | [0xAF]: for the usb charging logic, /rockbox/firmware/usb.c line 132, btw. |
| 23:39:17 | [0xAF] | [Saint]: yeah, already found it, thanks ;) |
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| 23:42:55 | [0xAF] | [Saint]: one more change which could be the problem ... i've rebooted my laptop today... and the new kernel booted (was 3.12.6, now it is 3.12.7) ... though it's very unlikely, there could be some change in the usb stack |
| 23:45:15 | [0xAF] | nothing interesting in 3.12.7 changelog |
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| 23:49:56 | kugel | yay, I ebay'd an ypr1 |
| 23:50:57 | [Saint] | buying or selling? |
| 23:50:58 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:51:03 | [Saint] | I assume the former. |
| 23:52:56 | kugel | right |
| 23:53:07 | kugel | why should I sell daps :) |
| 23:53:13 | [0xAF] | [Saint]: is there a way to save some usb debug info on the hdd ? (i presume you already tried that) |
| 23:54:18 | [Saint] | I'm mostly unsure of the USB subsystem. |
| 23:54:58 | [Saint] | I _think_ we have some form of log-to-disk feature...maybe? |
| 23:56:13 | [Saint] | Right. http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/288/ |
| 23:56:35 | [Saint] | That was pulled in a while ago. |
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| 23:57:27 | [0xAF] | looks interesting ... will try ... |
| 23:58:03 | [Saint] | rebuild with #define ROCKBOX_HAS_LOGDISKF in /rockbox/firmware/export/config/ipod6g.h |
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