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| 00:20:27 | [Saint] | ensemble doesn't actually seem to be a valid tag. |
| 00:20:42 | [Saint] | ...why am I not surprised. |
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| 01:38:11 | diatom | Hello |
| 01:39:37 | [Saint] | Hi. If you have a (Rockbox related) question, just ask it. |
| 01:39:42 | diatom | Guys, should ibuy a Yp r0 for10$? |
| 01:39:58 | [Saint] | If you want one. Go for it. |
| 01:41:08 | diatom | Is a rockbox Firmware out for the yp r0? |
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| 01:42:09 | pamaury | there is an unstable port yes |
| 01:42:22 | [Saint] | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SamsungYPR0 |
| 01:42:30 | [Saint] | The YP-R0 port is a bit "special" |
| 01:42:48 | diatom | Why? |
| 01:42:50 | [Saint] | As its one of the very few times where Rockbox is a full firmware replacement. |
| 01:43:07 | [Saint] | *isn't I mean. |
| 01:45:02 | diatom | Thanks for the answer. Should I install rockbox on it or should I just wait until a stable port comes out? |
| 01:45:53 | [Saint] | A "stable" port may never come out. And the "stable"/"unstable"/"unusable" classifications aren't particularly useful to users. |
| 01:46:50 | [Saint] | They don;t necessarily mean what a user thinks they do. Its mostly a set of internal requirements that it needs to meet to reach a particular classification. An "unusable" target, for instance, may be perfectly "usable", and seemingly "stable". |
| 01:47:53 | diatom | So I can install it without fear |
| 01:48:19 | [Saint] | With the YP-R0, yes. |
| 01:48:31 | [Saint] | There is a 100% recovery rate, IFF the hardware is functional. |
| 01:49:07 | [Saint] | (I had one die inexplicably on me, but it had nothing to do with Rockbox at all. It was just that players time to go. :)) |
| 01:49:21 | diatom | Okay. |
| 01:49:51 | [Saint] | It is definitely better than the original software. |
| 01:49:58 | diatom | Thanks again Guys |
| 01:49:59 | [Saint] | Very much so. |
| 01:50:36 | [Saint] | Come back and see us when it gets delivered. $10 is a pretty good deal if its all working and functional. |
| 01:51:03 | [Saint] | I sold a completely dead one for more than that. |
| 01:51:45 | diatom | The Guy who wants to sell it to me says that the device is very buggy. |
| 01:52:46 | diatom | I could tell him about Rockbox, but I won't :) |
| 01:55:43 | [Saint] | The original firmware is terrible. |
| 01:55:50 | [Saint] | So, yeah. Socore. :) |
| 01:55:54 | [Saint] | *score |
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| 02:00:21 | * | kuldeepdhaka requested some pudn files, anyone thought of helping the poor guy? |
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| 02:08:47 | ikeboy | <[Saint]> There is a 100% recovery rate, IFF the hardware is functional. Doesn't everything work except the times it fails :) |
| 02:09:17 | [Saint] | Yep. 100% of the time when it works, it works. ;) |
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| 03:11:02 | chrisjj | [Saint]: "ensemble doesn't actually seem to be a valid tag." I think you're mistaken. It works fine. |
| 03:11:41 | [Saint] | tagcache.c does absolutely nothing with it. |
| 03:11:57 | [Saint] | so in turn, I can't see how tagnavi does. |
| 03:13:49 | [Saint] | WHat is the basis for saying "it works fine". |
| 03:13:54 | [Saint] | It works fine *where*? |
| 03:15:36 | [Saint] | Ugh. FUck me. How did I miss that. |
| 03:15:43 | chrisjj | "tagcache.c does absolutely nothing with it." See tagtree.c |
| 03:16:02 | chrisjj | http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e9766477b37579bfa0249fa17818da8d348db7f |
| 03:16:16 | chrisjj | "WHat is the basis for saying "it works fine". Usage results. |
| 03:16:29 | chrisjj | "It works fine *where*?" tagnavi |
| 03:27:26 | [Saint] | Huh. My mistake indeed. Its a clone of albumartist. |
| 03:27:39 | [Saint] | I wonder what purpose that serves. |
| 03:28:35 | [Saint] | I was looking in tagcache.c solely (where it technically is catered for, but not as "ensemble"). |
| 03:30:20 | chrisjj | The purpose I guess is accordance with ID3-compliant TPE2 : "Band/orchestra/accompaniment". |
| 03:32:45 | chrisjj | Bye for now. |
| 03:32:48 | [Saint] | I've only ever known TPE2 to be "Album Artist". |
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| 03:36:29 | chrisjj | Let's agree to disagree on the the importance of standards. |
| 03:38:18 | [Saint] | I can't off the top of my head think of any app that doesn't treat TPE2 as album artist. |
| 03:38:32 | [Saint] | If not solely because "its what everyone else was doing". |
| 03:38:40 | [Saint] | Oh. I think Foobar might be the outlier. |
| 03:42:32 | [Saint] | Its all a mess I guess. id3v2.4 makes no mention of "ensemble" anywhere, so I guess its open to interpretation. I suppose something, somewhere, used it for it to be added as an albumartist clone to tagtree in the first place. |
| 03:45:26 | * | kuldeepdhaka got finally got pudn.com account active. happy to help others. :) |
| 03:46:56 | [Saint] | With my understanding of how the tags are used, TPE1 would be a better fit for "ensemble" as I understand the word. |
| 03:47:07 | [Saint] | Yay for odd made up frames. |
| 03:48:38 | [Saint] | TPE2 would just be "Joe Blogs", whereas TPE1 could be "Joe Blogs ft. Sammy, Billy and Bobby" which seems like a better fit. |
| 03:58:30 | chrisjj | That's a bad fit. TPE1 is Lead performer(s) / Soloist(s). |
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| 04:00:25 | chrisjj | "id3v2.4 makes no mention of "ensemble" anywhere" ensemble is a synonym of group or band. ID3 defined TPE2 using the term band. |
| 04:05:57 | chrisjj | Using TPE2 for album artist is an abuse, pioneered by iTunes and Winamp. Sadly Mp3tag recently changed to follow that, breaking script/config compatibility. |
| 04:06:40 | [Saint] | Its all getting very meta, but, TPE2 as album artist is what pretty much everything but Foobar does. |
| 04:06:59 | [Saint] | Even Foobar may now, I forget. |
| 04:07:29 | chrisjj | Everything but MP3tag too, until recently. |
| 04:08:16 | chrisjj | But now recently Mp3tag has switched - breaking compatibility with its own script/config format |
| 04:09:16 | chrisjj | Miika clearly knows his stuff. By covering both uses of TPE2 in tagnavi, he's avoided dumping RB into that mess. |
| 04:10:44 | chrisjj | Strange though that the standard RB tagnavi does not make use of this - to offer Band on the menu. |
| 04:11:13 | [Saint] | Probably because it would be confusing having two identical fields. |
| 04:12:18 | chrisjj | They wouldn't be identical in name, and the name here avoids confusion on which usage is current. |
| 04:12:52 | chrisjj | It would be even more confusing to have band appear as Album Artist, as was the case in Mp3tag. |
| 04:13:26 | [Saint] | Sadly, this is a case where, spec or no spec, if you're the minority - you're doing it wrong. |
| 04:14:13 | chrisjj | Because RB support both ways, it is right regardless. |
| 04:15:23 | chrisjj | What was wrong was ID3 dictating a fixed field set. This mistake was not repeated e.g. later by Vorbis comments. |
| 04:15:24 | [Saint] | Right. ANd there's nothing stopping users from editing the tagnavi so it says Album Artist, Band, or Wicky Wacky Woo, but it would be confusing (IMO) if there were two differently named fields with identical content. |
| 04:15:34 | chrisjj | Agreed. |
| 04:15:58 | chrisjj | RB, unlike Mp3tag, has to cover a complete library simultaneously. |
| 04:16:38 | chrisjj | Oops, I retract that Agreed. |
| 04:17:05 | chrisjj | What I do think would be confusing is a mixture of tracks using the different interpretations. |
| 04:17:22 | [Saint] | They would all end up in the same place. |
| 04:17:50 | chrisjj | Two menu items showing the same content is less than ideal, I agree, but less confusing to someone who deliberately uses only one. |
| 04:18:20 | [Saint] | whether tagnavi sorts by "album_artist" or "ensemble", its still going to come up with the same results. Regardless how the tag is used. |
| 04:18:34 | [Saint] | as both point to the same tag. |
| 04:18:53 | chrisjj | Sure, but at least both kind of user are catered for. |
| 04:19:19 | chrisjj | e.g. If you use TPe2 for Band, you ignore Album Artist. |
| 04:19:24 | chrisjj | And vice versa. |
| 04:21:25 | chrisjj | Must go. |
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| 05:43:25 | scorche | forums are going into maintenance mode for a while - going to see about a number of upgrades |
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| 06:00:22 | scorche | snapshop being created... |
| 06:00:46 | scorche | rather, snapshot created |
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| 07:04:51 | scorche | looks like themes. and translate. didnt make it past the dist-upgrade - diagnosing now... |
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| 08:13:48 | scorche | thats better - taking another snapshot before attempt to upgrade forums... |
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| 11:20:58 | kugel | the ypr1 is pretty horrible |
| 11:21:55 | lebellium | what exactly? |
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| 11:23:47 | kugel | the OF |
| 11:23:52 | lebellium | ah |
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| 11:24:21 | kugel | hw-wise I don't like the lack of microsd and volume buttons on the side |
| 11:24:34 | lebellium | fortunately you don't have my sample device with beta firmware 0.77. Imagine how bad it is compared to latest v3.07 :D |
| 11:24:35 | kugel | and the proprietary usb cable. why did they do that |
| 11:24:59 | lebellium | I wrote the wiki page some weeks ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YP-R1 |
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| 11:26:51 | lebellium | about the USB cable, you don't know the Samsung history enough if you ask that |
| 11:26:54 | lebellium | :) |
| 11:27:20 | kugel | clearly |
| 11:28:29 | kugel | hm, it has a deep sleep mode? |
| 11:28:39 | kugel | can we possibly use that too? |
| 11:29:00 | kugel | lebellium: where is lorenzo92 these days? |
| 11:29:50 | lebellium | It has the same sleep mode as YP-R0. And it's a battery killer. I asked Samsung Korea to remove this stupid feature but it was too much work so they said 'no' |
| 11:30:07 | lebellium | So I hope we'll never use that sleep mode in Rockbox :) |
| 11:30:29 | kugel | how's it a battery killer? |
| 11:30:32 | lebellium | kugel: he's probably busy with university |
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| 11:52:59 | [Saint] | What makes you think I can do any more about it than you can? |
| 11:53:22 | [Saint] | Prodding me to do something you can do yourself is a little crap. |
| 11:53:54 | [Saint] | Newsflash: I have little time for hobby projects. |
| 11:54:03 | AlexP | if someone wants to fix whatever it is I'll commit it :) |
| 11:54:35 | lebellium | [Saint]: I already sent you the dirty fix for progress bar long time ago so that you can check if it's OK and if it is, make a patch or commit it, you know that I can't and won't do that |
| 11:55:07 | [Saint] | then you shouldn't expect me to. |
| 11:55:12 | [Saint] | or anyone else. |
| 11:55:28 | lebellium | you could at least tell me if my fix is OK... |
| 11:55:40 | lebellium | even if you don't want or don't have time to publish it |
| 11:56:20 | [Saint] | It's a single digit change, it don't recall it needing approval. |
| 11:56:38 | lebellium | it was more than that... |
| 11:57:03 | lebellium | for the cabbiev2 128x128 text position, it's a single digit change indeed, but not for the progress bar in cabbiev2 240x400 |
| 11:57:36 | [Saint] | Anyway. Ive had zero time for months. It really isn't my fault you have issues with gerrit. |
| 11:57:40 | [Saint] | Im sorry. |
| 11:57:44 | [Saint] | But it isn't. |
| 11:58:28 | lebellium | at least now you replied and I understood. It's better than ignoring my words like you did the last times |
| 11:58:46 | kugel | lebellium: I'm sorry that he's frustrated but my spare time is limited as well |
| 11:59:09 | [Saint] | we're all getting old. :) |
| 11:59:10 | kugel | and to be honest, it could have been merged earlier if he didn't make the same mistakes again and again |
| 11:59:39 | lebellium | AlexP: If I send you a new WPS for a minor fix in cabbiev2, is it OK? Or do you necessarily need a gerrit patch? |
| 11:59:50 | lebellium | cabbiev2 128x128 * |
| 11:59:59 | kugel | I reviewed a lot of his patches, they're fine for the most part (technically) but he repeats the same style guide violations |
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| 12:00:26 | AlexP | lebellium: I'd prefer it as a diff, but it doesn't have to be gerrit |
| 12:00:59 | [Saint] | I'm sure AlexP could "rewrite" it, for licensing's sake. |
| 12:01:55 | AlexP | does lebellium not have a real name or something? |
| 12:01:56 | kugel | lebellium: you seem to be thinking that [Saint] can commit to rockbox git master which isn't the case |
| 12:02:21 | [Saint] | Not for lack of me mentioning this... |
| 12:03:00 | lebellium | I just thought he doesn't want to commit to git master, I was not sure about his real rights |
| 12:03:52 | [Saint] | I had no desire to be a committer even when i was active. |
| 12:04:03 | [Saint] | gerrit review suited me fine. |
| 12:04:23 | [Saint] | In many ways its better. |
| 12:05:16 | lebellium | AlexP: http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=blob;f=wps/cabbiev2.128x128x16.wps;h=86062ab5d9ea0679113cc29ac2643ff149692694;hb=7272a95 just replace at line 51: 70 by 73 so that we get http://imageshack.com/a/img191/8049/p3y3.jpg instead of current http://imageshack.com/a/img835/5600/ubna.jpg |
| 12:05:21 | [Saint] | To be fair, the change log could make who is a committer and who isn't totally non-obvious, though. |
| 12:05:36 | [Saint] | As youd see a from commits from me. |
| 12:05:56 | AlexP | lebellium: ok, name? |
| 12:05:56 | [Saint] | But, thats a bit of gerrit trickery. |
| 12:06:12 | lebellium | AlexP: I have no real name :) |
| 12:06:27 | AlexP | Oh |
| 12:06:38 | lebellium | well I have one on the wiki now: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/LudovicJacques |
| 12:06:42 | [Saint] | Thats why i said earlier about "rewriting". |
| 12:06:48 | AlexP | uh huh |
| 12:06:50 | [Saint] | Else it gets problematic. |
| 12:06:58 | AlexP | well for this it doesn't matter |
| 12:07:08 | AlexP | there's only one way to do that |
| 12:07:26 | lebellium | when people commit something for which I helped a bit, they just write "lebellium" |
| 12:07:50 | [Saint] | Right. But that would break policy here. |
| 12:08:03 | AlexP | not really in keeping with the real name policy |
| 12:08:22 | lebellium | lebellium">http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git&a=search&h=7272a95&st=commit&s=lebellium |
| 12:08:22 | AlexP | for this it is fine, but not other stuff |
| 12:08:27 | kugel | lebellium: so what name do you go by at public authorities? |
| 12:08:39 | lebellium | kugel: nice try |
| 12:08:48 | AlexP | I'm not sure about those |
| 12:09:09 | AlexP | we've rejected much bigger contributions before for lack of openness |
| 12:09:17 | [Saint] | commit messages dont count. |
| 12:09:32 | [Saint] | we could call you Jane there :) |
| 12:09:39 | AlexP | if someone is unwilling to be open with us, then sorry |
| 12:09:52 | [Saint] | ^totally this |
| 12:09:57 | lebellium | I'm officially Ludovic Jacques on the Rockbox wiki. Use that one if you really want to... |
| 12:10:02 | AlexP | no |
| 12:10:13 | AlexP | as we know it is made up |
| 12:10:30 | lebellium | then don't credit |
| 12:10:32 | lebellium | just make the change |
| 12:10:35 | lebellium | I really don't care |
| 12:10:40 | lebellium | I just want things to be fixed |
| 12:10:41 | AlexP | that isn't the point |
| 12:10:45 | [Saint] | Knowing that. it shouldn't even exist. |
| 12:10:47 | AlexP | then be open |
| 12:10:54 | [Saint] | The wiki has a real name policy too. |
| 12:10:59 | AlexP | for this change it is fine |
| 12:11:13 | AlexP | But not for more in depth stuff |
| 12:11:30 | lebellium | AlexP: I will never make more in depth stuff, I'm not a dev |
| 12:11:36 | AlexP | I'll fix that one in a bit when I'm at a computer not a tablet |
| 12:11:42 | AlexP | ok then |
| 12:11:54 | kugel | lebellium: so you do have a real name but don't want to tell |
| 12:12:10 | lebellium | kugel: we already discussed that many times here, please... |
| 12:12:24 | AlexP | is a bit sad |
| 12:12:24 | [Saint] | Just remember that this could've been over months ago with a patch submission to gerrit. |
| 12:12:33 | * | kugel didn't take part in that discussions |
| 12:12:45 | AlexP | But if people are paranoid there isn't much you can do |
| 12:12:49 | [Saint] | Allbfor the sake of a bame thats out there if you look hard enough abyway. |
| 12:12:52 | [Saint] | itbis sad. |
| 12:12:57 | [Saint] | *it is |
| 12:13:54 | lebellium | I don't see why a website would force me to give my real name. Well, there is google/youtube now... but before rockbox was the only one. |
| 12:14:06 | AlexP | it isn't the website |
| 12:14:12 | AlexP | it is to contribute |
| 12:14:14 | lebellium | if you don't want my help because I'm not "open" (lol), then don't. |
| 12:14:17 | [Saint] | try,"license requirement". |
| 12:14:23 | AlexP | we don't |
| 12:14:38 | [Saint] | its not just us makig an arbitrary decision. |
| 12:14:49 | kugel | lebellium: I personally don't care about your real name but licensing stuff requires this |
| 12:15:15 | AlexP | anyway, it doesn't matter for this thing, I'll fix it later on |
| 12:15:30 | lebellium | kugel: just put your name instead, I won't suie you because I'm not credited as the original author or whatever, I don't care |
| 12:18:18 | lebellium | It's so boring |
| 12:18:33 | [Saint] | I'm a little uneasy about it being out in the open now that the wiki's realname policy was duped. |
| 12:18:48 | lebellium | [Saint]: nothing new |
| 12:18:57 | lebellium | but maybe you didn't follow the discussions like Kugel |
| 12:19:07 | [Saint] | Me knowing it personally was one thing, it being a "fact" now is another. |
| 12:19:38 | [Saint] | Everyone else either abides or maintains the charade. |
| 12:19:47 | lebellium | do what you want, that really starts to get on my nerves |
| 12:20:20 | kugel | and uber-paranoid people get on my nerves |
| 12:21:30 | lebellium | then delete my account and stop annoying me with that |
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| 12:26:27 | kugel | right, I've suspended your write access to the wiki |
| 12:26:39 | kugel | please respect our policy even if you don't agree with that |
| 12:27:03 | lebellium | I won't |
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| 12:29:51 | lebellium | But good to see how you encourage the few people still active not to help further you because of a few administratives problems |
| 12:30:05 | lebellium | -you |
| 12:31:12 | AlexP | It's a very long standing policy |
| 12:31:21 | AlexP | It is you who are being problematic here |
| 12:31:30 | AlexP | But anyway, this argument is pointless |
| 12:31:38 | AlexP | I propose it stops now |
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| 12:42:47 | lebellium | Is there a particular way to reach the steering board? |
| 12:43:20 | kugel | well, contact any of its members I'd say |
| 12:43:26 | AlexP | I think there is an email address |
| 12:43:31 | kugel | but the steering board is not needed |
| 12:44:06 | kugel | I guess pamaury just made a mistake or wasn't aware how serious we take the policy. let's hear him first |
| 12:44:27 | AlexP | lebellium: rsb at rockbox.org for referrence |
| 12:44:46 | kugel | oh right |
| 12:45:16 | lebellium | he probably thought making an exception so that I can help is more important than respecting stricly the policy without analysing the context |
| 12:45:26 | lebellium | thanks Alexp |
| 12:45:27 | kugel | I'm not sure what you're on now, you said "do what you want" and that you do not care |
| 12:46:44 | AlexP | I don't want to be difficult by the way |
| 12:46:48 | lebellium | kugel: I said "do what you want" because I know you have the powers and can do what you want regardless what I say |
| 12:47:11 | AlexP | The discussion in my opinion is at what point is the cut off |
| 12:47:18 | lebellium | But I want to help further the way I have done it for 2/3 years now |
| 12:47:36 | AlexP | IMO it is to contribute code |
| 12:47:42 | kugel | your help is appreciated (and still is) |
| 12:47:45 | AlexP | (Forgetting the wiki for the minute) |
| 12:47:55 | AlexP | Reporting bugs etc., no problem |
| 12:48:15 | lebellium | I know that coding would be way more useful than what I do currently |
| 12:48:21 | AlexP | The question comes with what other contributions need it? |
| 12:48:27 | AlexP | And I don't know what the cut off is |
| 12:49:20 | kugel | we only care about real names when touches copyright law, that is code and artistic contributions. we don't need it for testing or bug reports or user support in this channel |
| 12:50:06 | lebellium | so why do need real name for the wiki? |
| 12:50:22 | lebellium | I don't have a dev account |
| 12:50:34 | lebellium | I don't commit anything |
| 12:50:40 | kugel | I respect and accept that you do not want give your name but you have to respect and accept that we cannot take significant code and artistic contributions this way |
| 12:50:53 | kugel | but you can still help out massively in other ways |
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| 12:51:40 | lebellium | What I edit on the wiki is not a code or artistic contribution (note that I gave my real real name for themes publishing) |
| 12:52:18 | kugel | if you give your real name for theme publishing why don't you give it for the wiki? |
| 12:53:28 | kugel | that name is presented on our website |
| 12:55:22 | lebellium | because I was obliged to if I didn't want my themes to be removed. Since I really wanted my themes to be available to download, I made this concession but I sweared it would be the only one. What you ask for the wiki or minor wps fixes suggestions is too much |
| 12:55:48 | copper | why can't someone else take credit for it? |
| 12:56:47 | copper | if the change is sound and trivial, who cares |
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| 12:58:26 | kugel | copper: right |
| 12:59:06 | kugel | copper: we can take trivial things, like said earlier, but nothign significat |
| 12:59:23 | gevaerts | Sometimes, yes, on a case by case basis, if someone wants to do it |
| 12:59:29 | copper | I don't quite understand the big deal about "real names" - it's not like you ask for a picture of official ID |
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| 13:00:15 | gevaerts | But then you don't get to complain if the patch isn't looked at for a while |
| 13:02:07 | lebellium | copper: the big deal is that for some reasons I don't want my real name and my nickname to be associated and only Rockbox forced me to do it. Even google hasn't (yet). And I don't want/have to explain why I don't want them to be associated. It's a not a police interview. I'd just like not beeing forced. Internet should let me free to choose. |
| 13:02:24 | AlexP | Sure, you can choose |
| 13:02:35 | copper | I know |
| 13:02:35 | AlexP | But by doing so you eliminate yourself from certain things |
| 13:02:41 | gevaerts | You *are* free to choose |
| 13:02:45 | gevaerts | so are we |
| 13:02:58 | ZincAlloy | how about a new nickname? |
| 13:03:03 | copper | lebellium: why didn't you just use a pseudonym from the get go? |
| 13:03:09 | copper | like "Antoine Valentin" |
| 13:03:15 | AlexP | I can choose not to go to work if I don't feel like it, but then I get sacked |
| 13:03:21 | AlexP | Still a free choice |
| 13:03:46 | copper | Antoine Valentin actually sounds great, now that I think about it :D |
| 13:04:09 | AlexP | Sure, we rely on people being honest |
| 13:04:27 | AlexP | Sadly some people aren't |
| 13:04:47 | copper | not to mention, "used name", "akas" have some official value |
| 13:04:58 | copper | "go by" names |
| 13:04:58 | lebellium | I see that more as blackmail as free choice. To involve into Rockbox I need to give my real name. Do you really call that "free choice"? |
| 13:05:04 | AlexP | yes |
| 13:05:08 | AlexP | You can choose not to |
| 13:05:18 | AlexP | If you want to travel you need a passport |
| 13:05:18 | lebellium | blackmail is the same |
| 13:05:22 | AlexP | Is that blackmail? |
| 13:05:24 | copper | what |
| 13:05:25 | AlexP | Don't talk shit |
| 13:05:32 | gevaerts | Are you actually being serious? |
| 13:05:33 | AlexP | In no way is it blackmail |
| 13:05:38 | copper | lebellium: it's just a restriction |
| 13:05:40 | kugel | as mentioned you can participate with us without giving your real name |
| 13:05:42 | copper | a requirement |
| 13:05:44 | AlexP | To do lots of things there is a requirement |
| 13:05:58 | AlexP | If you are going to resort to talking bollocks this conversation really is pointless |
| 13:06:05 | copper | Rockbox people won't do something bad if you refuse to give your real name (THAT would be blackmail) |
| 13:06:19 | lebellium | ok true that |
| 13:07:17 | lebellium | kugel: I noticed that. But I thought I would be limited at a dev level. Here we're talking about basic wiki editing or minor changes. |
| 13:08:28 | kugel | the wiki is part of our official documentation and knowledge base, this is why we extend the policy to it |
| 13:08:32 | copper | can't we just settle this with a pseudonym? |
| 13:09:00 | kugel | yes you don't put code there, but other stuff affected by copyright |
| 13:09:04 | copper | it's not illegal to use pseudonyms |
| 13:09:04 | AlexP | copper: No, not now we know |
| 13:09:10 | AlexP | As it would be the same thing |
| 13:09:37 | lebellium | you already knew. At least it was a public discussion here on this chan |
| 13:09:39 | lebellium | nothing new |
| 13:09:48 | lebellium | it was not a secret discussion with pamaury |
| 13:09:56 | AlexP | I didn't at least, hence my question this morning asking for your name |
| 13:10:33 | kugel | the real name policy has also social value for us, we don't want to be a random crowd of all-anonymous people |
| 13:10:42 | kugel | at least for me |
| 13:12:14 | lebellium | nicknames have a strong value for me. "Kugel" I directly know who we are talking about. "Thomas blabla" is more difficult to remember, it's more anonymous to me |
| 13:12:45 | kugel | right, that's why we have both :) |
| 13:13:30 | copper | lebellium: just "disappear" and come back in a week with a pseudonym |
| 13:13:37 | copper | problem solved |
| 13:13:45 | pamaury | I think you are doing too much fuss, why do you care of lebellium and not about Torne then ? The way I see it I prefer someone we *know* to contribute, it's not like lebellium is a complete stranger coming out of the blue |
| 13:14:12 | AlexP | That very much isn't the policy |
| 13:14:30 | AlexP | Anyway, I'm off now |
| 13:16:15 | kugel | pamaury: torne convinced us that he's going by that name in real life (e.g. when dealing with public authorities) |
| 13:16:22 | kugel | that qualifies as real name |
| 13:16:25 | lebellium | I once found the old 2002 mail archives, the real name policy was first introduced so that there is no problem in case of legal issues, court cases etc... what is the risk with me? close to zero. I'm even sure in case someone needs to track me for legal reasons, my nickname would help more than my real name |
| 13:18:08 | pamaury | kugel: open your eyes, lookup for lebellium on google, if a court wants to know who he is, I bet they will have no problem. It's actually better that he calls himself lebellium everywhere, at least we know it's the sale person |
| 13:18:26 | pamaury | *same |
| 13:18:57 | kugel | I'm not going to discuss the validity of our real name policy now. it's in place and I like it the way it is |
| 13:20:10 | pamaury | I'm not trying to discuss it, I'm saying one little exception won't kill anyone |
| 13:22:06 | kugel | gevaerts: do you know if the Player has a binsize limit too? |
| 13:22:13 | kugel | looks like I'm hitting it |
| 13:22:58 | kugel | region FLASH is full |
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| 13:25:29 | gevaerts | kugel: no idea. I'll ask the Swedes some time today |
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| 13:27:06 | kugel | gevaerts: do you see that at fosdem? |
| 13:27:39 | lebellium | hum many themes are said to be incompatible with the current build. For example here http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?target=sansaclipzip. An idea? |
| 13:27:57 | gevaerts | Bagder is sitting two chairs over, LinusN and Zagor are in a different room |
| 13:28:35 | kugel | gevaerts: perhaps you could bring up the topic of how we can effectively maintain our infrastructure in the face of retiring Swedes if you have time for a quick rockbox-related chat |
| 13:29:05 | gevaerts | Ah, yes. I'll have a go at that |
| 13:29:57 | kugel | lebellium: probably because i made a change to the bar tag so that the width/height are checked more strictly |
| 13:30:46 | kugel | speaking of RSB: Do we even have one? we forgot about voting last year |
| 13:31:44 | gevaerts | I'd say we do, although we do need to vote soon |
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| 13:36:40 | lebellium | kugel: oh indeed, that pointed out an issue in my FMS I never noticed before^^ I put 126px width while the screen is 112px width |
| 13:41:44 | gevaerts | kugel: re. the player: yes, there is a similar limit |
| 13:43:01 | kugel | gevaerts: it's not the same error message as for the recorder though. it says FLASH is full even before ucl compression is attempted |
| 13:44:25 | diatom1 | Guys i installed Rockbox on my YP-R0. It worked out. I wanted to play some games, but the player crashed. Now, it is stuck in the Samsung loading screen. How can i fix it? |
| 13:44:58 | kugel | rockbox doesnt boot anymore? |
| 13:45:19 | diatom1 | Solved the Problem. Just pressed the Reset button. |
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| 13:52:37 | diatom1 | Whats the Highest playable Video Resolution for my Yp-R0? |
| 13:53:16 | [Saint] | There's only one resolution playable, and it must match the LCD resolution exactly. |
| 13:53:29 | chris______ | Zagor: and any anyone else who maintains the FlySpray config, Reported Version doesn't have the current RButil. |
| 13:54:46 | lebellium | diatom1: for video playback, you should rather use the OF (more codecs supported, resolution up to 720x480) |
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| 13:55:28 | diatom1 | What is OF? |
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| 13:55:54 | kugel | diatom1: original firmware, i.e. the official samsung os |
| 13:55:57 | [Saint] | Original Firmware |
| 13:57:54 | diatom1 | mp4? |
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| 13:58:13 | lebellium | diatom1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YP-R0 |
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| 14:00:01 | lebellium | diatom: I wrote the wikipedia page so it should be correct but otherwise you can check directly the last page of the user manual |
| 14:00:35 | diatom1 | Okay. |
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| 14:00:48 | diatom1 | Which formats does Rockbox support? |
| 14:02:30 | lebellium | diatom1: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginMpegplayer |
| 14:02:43 | lebellium | I assume you talk about the video formats |
| 14:03:11 | diatom1 | yeah |
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| 14:03:53 | chris______ | lebellium: <<wrote: "I'm officially Ludovic Jacques on the Rockbox wiki. Use that one if you really want to..." Thanks. Added to http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcNicks . |
| 14:04:20 | lebellium | chris______: it's useless, kugel removed my writing rights... |
| 14:04:30 | lebellium | so this account should be deleted |
| 14:04:52 | chris______ | pamaury: " at least we know it's the sale [sname] person". Except of course that anyone can join this IRC channel under the nickname lebellium :) |
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| 14:05:43 | chris______ | "kugel removed my writing rights..." Where's that on record? |
| 14:06:20 | pamaury | chris______: you can request a cloak on Freenode so that's easy to solve |
| 14:06:38 | JdGordon | gerrit dead? |
| 14:06:52 | pamaury | JdGordon: yeah apparently |
| 14:07:03 | gevaerts | you don't actually need a cloak |
| 14:08:29 | lebellium | chris______: 12:26 GMT +1 |
| 14:08:29 | kugel | right, just register with nickserv |
| 14:08:33 | chris______ | A cloak solves the problem of impersonation? |
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| 14:11:41 | lebellium | my nickname is not registered but I don't see why someone would take it instead of me. It's a serious chan here. Maybe some people would do that for fun on other chans |
| 14:11:56 | chris______ | lebellium: Thanks. Sad to see suffering from "uber-paranoid people get on my nerves" lead to a ban. |
| 14:12:28 | [Saint] | Its not a ban. |
| 14:12:35 | [Saint] | But lets not get into this agin... |
| 14:12:41 | lebellium | I'm not banned, I'm here :) |
| 14:12:44 | * | [Saint] throws a random a in there |
| 14:15:44 | chris______ | I meant banned from wiki editing. |
| 14:16:03 | chris______ | kugel: "I've suspended your write access to the wiki ... please respect our policy even if you don't agree with that" |
| 14:16:14 | gevaerts | it could easily happen to anyone |
| 14:16:47 | gevaerts | chris______: why are you polluting the channel with random quotes from earlier? |
| 14:16:51 | kugel | hmm |
| 14:16:54 | chris______ | FAOD I'd like to see this policy. I'd not like myself to be banned from editing through an inadvertent breach. |
| 14:16:56 | kugel | what's rombox? |
| 14:17:20 | pamaury | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RomBox |
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| 14:17:31 | gevaerts | chris______: you're not actually involved in this |
| 14:17:41 | chris______ | I'd not like myself to be banned from editing through an inadvertent breach. |
| 14:20:28 | diatom1 | Guys, if you want to download a youtube video without software, just write ss in the link. it should look like this: www.ssyoutube.com/video . Then you can choose a video format and you can download it easily. |
| 14:21:14 | gevaerts | diatom1: that's quite far off-topic here |
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| 14:21:31 | diatom1 | i know, just wanted to say :) |
| 14:21:41 | gevaerts | don't |
| 14:23:22 | kugel | oh so my changes break rombox |
| 14:24:04 | gevaerts | kugel: size? |
| 14:26:44 | kugel | no idea |
| 14:26:57 | kugel | it just says FLASH section is full |
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| 14:29:23 | gevaerts | Sounds like size to me. Try disabling a random feature, if it goes away it's size |
| 14:29:32 | | Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0/20140127194636]) |
| 14:29:48 | gevaerts | And then I'd recommend not caring too much |
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| 14:30:50 | kugel | try to find a random feature of the Player :) |
| 14:31:07 | gevaerts | shuffle :) |
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| 14:33:34 | gevaerts | kugel: in the lds file, you can increase the size of the flash (not to actually usr, just to check that this is the problem) |
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| 14:38:24 | kugel | hm, changing boot.lds doesnt have an effect (?) |
| 14:38:55 | | Part jitt ("Leaving") |
| 14:40:02 | kugel | wth, firmware/rom.lds is the right file! |
| 14:44:12 | gevaerts | of course :) |
| 14:49:32 | AlexP | If chrisjj is here can someone tell him I deleted his flyspray bug report from the forums, that isn't the place for them |
| 14:52:13 | AlexP | There are some others I'm going to delete soon too. |
| 14:52:40 | AlexP | Bug reports belong on flyspray, not the forums. Discussion should take place on the bug report, not fragmented across the forums and here |
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| 15:00:10 | chris______ | AlexP: You've somewhat defaced http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12950 by deleting the forum message containing the detail of the bug. Perhaps if you still have the text of the message you'd deleted, you'd be kind enough to add it to the task. Thanks. |
| 15:02:17 | chris______ | AlexP: "Bug reports belong ... not the forums. " You're mistaken e.g. "Audio Playback, Database and Playlists - Discussion of Playback routines, and bugs relating to them." |
| 15:03:26 | [Saint] | Discussion of bugs is like "Oh, hey - errr, this happens. Is it a bug?"; "Yes, now, go report it on flyspray" |
| 15:03:37 | [Saint] | Not "report bugs here" |
| 15:03:56 | kugel | the forum description is ambigious and should be changed |
| 15:04:20 | kugel | who can do that? |
| 15:04:53 | AlexP | kugel: Which description? |
| 15:05:34 | kugel | the one of the "Audio Playback, Database and Playlists" subforum |
| 15:05:37 | [Saint] | there's quite a few... |
| 15:05:41 | [Saint] | Recording also. |
| 15:05:53 | AlexP | yes, that is ambiguous |
| 15:06:10 | AlexP | It should be I'm not sure if this behavious is a bug or not before reporting |
| 15:06:35 | AlexP | RBUtil not getting the link to the manuals right does not need discussion about whether it is a bug or intended |
| 15:06:50 | kugel | yes |
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| 15:07:10 | kugel | but the description suggests this is tolerated regardless |
| 15:07:18 | AlexP | it could be read that way, yes |
| 15:07:23 | [Saint] | There's a lot of heading there that are oddly worded if we want to make it clear that confirmed bugs are out, but its cool if you're not sure if its a bug or not. |
| 15:07:30 | AlexP | I can't change it, it needs an admin |
| 15:07:33 | AlexP | e.g. gevaerts |
| 15:07:40 | AlexP | When he's at home :) |
| 15:08:20 | AlexP | It is of course impossible to get the descriptions to cover everything |
| 15:08:37 | AlexP | But once pointed out, I would hope people would adhere to what is meant |
| 15:08:56 | [Saint] | I would've thought a Golbal Mod (you're one, right?) could edit such things. |
| 15:09:04 | AlexP | I am, but don't think I can |
| 15:09:19 | AlexP | I have very limited adminy powers |
| 15:09:29 | [Saint] | Yeah, its actually set up well here. |
| 15:09:46 | [Saint] | Unlike other forums I work with that give out *way* too much. |
| 15:09:55 | AlexP | I can do things to people, but not the forums essentially |
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| 15:35:55 | Rohin | Hi. I have an iPod classic 7th gen. Is there a working port for rockbox. |
| 15:36:25 | Rohin | The iPod classic sound clarity is really terrible! |
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| 15:37:34 | [Saint] | The iPod Classic sound clarity is actually really, really, really good. |
| 15:37:44 | [Saint] | Like, disturbingly good. |
| 15:37:56 | copper | lol |
| 15:38:11 | Rohin | Yes, but my music distorts on the classic. But sound amazing in my touch. |
| 15:38:31 | copper | either you're doing something wrong, or your Classic is broken |
| 15:38:39 | [Saint] | ^ that |
| 15:38:41 | Rohin | I mainly listen to house, trance so I need a good bass eq. |
| 15:38:46 | copper | ah |
| 15:38:47 | copper | ok |
| 15:38:49 | [Saint] | aha :) |
| 15:38:51 | [Saint] | There we go. |
| 15:38:52 | copper | iPod Classic EQs distort |
| 15:39:07 | Rohin | Yes. Exactly! xD |
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| 15:39:09 | copper | especially the "RnB" Eq preset |
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| 15:39:48 | copper | to answer your question, yes there is a Rockbox port for the Classic but it's somewhat difficult to install the necessary bootloader (emCORE) |
| 15:40:18 | Rohin | But I can incase of any errors restore to apple firmware at anytime? |
| 15:40:23 | copper | http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation/iPodClassic |
| 15:40:31 | copper | yes you can restore your iPod with iTunes |
| 15:41:04 | Rohin | That's perfect! Also, it doesn't hang or have any bugs or anything right? Only the installation is longer? |
| 15:41:12 | copper | an easier solution is to keep the original firmware and apply a negative gain to your MP3s with mp3gain |
| 15:41:21 | copper | Rohin: sure it has bugs |
| 15:41:25 | copper | sometimes it crashes |
| 15:41:44 | copper | mostly when connecting it to your PC via USB |
| 15:42:16 | Rohin | Sometimes as in? Like once in a day often Orr like every 4-5 hours often? |
| 15:42:38 | copper | it doesn't have a clock |
| 15:42:42 | Rohin | Only that? My music is already syncd. I don't sync that often! |
| 15:43:13 | Rohin | That's okay too! But is there development for a stable release from rockbox? |
| 15:43:16 | copper | let's put it this way: I have installed Rockbox on my iPod Classic, and I'm not going to revert to the original firmware. |
| 15:43:57 | copper | but then again I'm sensibly more involved than most users |
| 15:44:30 | copper | if you want a seamless experience, the original firmware can't be beat |
| 15:45:18 | copper | I wouldn't get into Rockbox if you're not willing to spend a little bit of time and effort on it |
| 15:45:25 | copper | as far as the Classic goes |
| 15:46:01 | copper | not trying to scare you away, I'm just trying not to make false promises |
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| 15:46:34 | copper | it's worth the time and effort, IMO |
| 15:46:48 | diatom1 | Guys, rockbox doesnt plays my music. I have a YP-R0 |
| 15:47:05 | copper | diatom1: punish it |
| 15:47:23 | kugel | diatom1: it plays mine |
| 15:47:59 | lebellium | diatom1: what happens exactly? |
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| 15:48:42 | diatom1 | When I choose a track, there is the "know playing" screen, but no sound comes out. |
| 15:49:29 | lebellium | hum |
| 15:49:41 | lebellium | maybe there is an issue with the latest build |
| 15:49:47 | lebellium | I haven't updated mine recently |
| 15:50:37 | diatom1 | I have installed rockbox with this tutorial. http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showpost.php?p=620734&postcount=887 |
| 15:51:16 | diatom1 | And the "Timer" doesnt moves, even when i press play |
| 15:53:18 | diatom1 | A Restart fixed it. |
| 15:53:59 | kugel | diatom1: can you check your file system? |
| 15:54:16 | kugel | something strange is going on on your end |
| 15:54:26 | diatom1 | Where can i see it? |
| 15:54:40 | kugel | see what? |
| 15:54:49 | diatom1 | file system |
| 15:54:59 | diatom1 | sorry for bad english, im german |
| 15:55:30 | kugel | plug your ypr0 into a computer (using the OF or safe mode) and use your OS to check for errors |
| 15:56:07 | diatom1 | okay |
| 15:56:40 | Rohin | thanks for your help. xD |
| 15:56:54 | lebellium | yeah file system corruption seems to happen quite often on YP-R0. Not sure if Rockbox is causing that or not |
| 15:57:43 | Rohin | The steps seem fairly small but it is worth the time right? It doesn't distort on rockbox right? |
| 15:59:04 | diatom1 | Its FAT32 |
| 15:59:17 | [Saint] | I'm going to hazard a guess and say it probably *will* distort in your case. |
| 15:59:44 | [Saint] | As we'd be giving you access to an incredibly powerful parametric EQ that about 4 people in the world seem to know how to use effectively. |
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| 16:00:29 | [Saint] | We give you a much higher chance of making a mess of your settings and making a terrible user experience than Apple can. |
| 16:01:06 | [Saint] | If you don't play with anything you're not familiar with, you'll be fine. |
| 16:03:11 | chris______ | kugel: "the forum description is ambigious" How so? e.g "Plugins/Viewers Questions - Bugs, Discussion of Plugins, Games, and Viewers." looks clear to me. |
| 16:03:12 | diatom1 | I copied 2gb data on my device with OF, before i had the issue. |
| 16:03:54 | kugel | chris______: we dont actually want discussion about bugs (once they're determined to be bugs) to happen on the forum |
| 16:06:13 | chris______ | kugel: Actually what I was asking about is what the forum invites and allows. I'm already aware that some people here would like different. |
| 16:07:02 | diatom1 | How do i exit safe mode? |
| 16:09:36 | copper | [Saint]: nah, he can just use the bass and treble settings |
| 16:15:59 | kugel | diatom1: long press power |
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| 16:36:38 | Rohin_ | Does the rockbox for ipod Classic UI look better than the iOS UI? |
| 16:36:51 | Rohin_ | If anyone has screens, can you please share it? |
| 16:38:08 | pamaury | bluebrother: I guess you know qmake better than me, I want to add a feature to my regedit tool which depends on libusb. I found how to make the compilation depend on unix but I would also like to be able to disable it if the user doesn't want to compile it, how can I do so ? |
| 16:38:59 | Rohin_ | Anybody there? x/ |
| 16:39:57 | pamaury | Rohin_: if someone knows, he/she will answer, you might have to wait a bit |
| 16:40:15 | Rohin_ | Okay! |
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| 17:04:13 | chris______ | pamaury: on ZEN BSoD, your mention of a fix by ugly move of code to the bootloader mystifies me. Because BSoD can occur before the bootloader as well as after. |
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| 17:34:06 | kugel | what's up with gerrit? |
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| 17:55:07 | kugel | grml |
| 17:55:22 | kugel | how do i get the yrp1 port changes now |
| 17:56:32 | kugel | since the git server is still there I assume with some magic git command? |
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| 17:59:01 | kugel | gevaerts: ping |
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| 18:03:15 | bluebrother | pamaury: use a section like this: |
| 18:03:39 | bluebrother | libusb { LIBS += -lusb |
| 18:04:00 | bluebrother | DEFINES += LIBUSB_SUPPORt |
| 18:04:01 | bluebrother | } |
| 18:04:16 | bluebrother | and then invoke qmake with -config libusb to enable that section |
| 18:04:38 | bluebrother | or use !nolibusb { ... } and use qmake -config nolibusb to disable it |
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| 18:36:11 | bluebrother | poor forehead |
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| 18:36:23 | kugel | he deserved it |
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| 18:39:47 | ZincAlloy | I've got the improved version of cabbiev2 for 128x128 targets ready. Should I upload it to the theme site or would you rather have just the files to update it? |
| 18:42:27 | kugel | the theme site isnt the right place for cabbiev2 |
| 18:42:51 | ZincAlloy | right. especially since I want it to replace the current version |
| 18:42:55 | kugel | gerrit would be best but it's down right now |
| 18:43:18 | kugel | did images change? |
| 18:43:23 | ZincAlloy | yes |
| 18:43:34 | kugel | what changed? |
| 18:43:45 | ZincAlloy | I changed everything. |
| 18:43:54 | kugel | in what way? |
| 18:45:20 | gevaerts | kugel: pong |
| 18:45:28 | ZincAlloy | before (with a fix): http://imageshack.com/a/img191/8049/p3y3.jpg after: http://oi62.tinypic.com/mm78rb.jpg |
| 18:45:39 | kugel | gevaerts: can you or the Swedes do something about gerrit? |
| 18:45:58 | ZincAlloy | I also included a radio screen |
| 18:46:15 | gevaerts | kugel: the Swedes are busy catching a plane, and I can't |
| 18:46:30 | kugel | i see |
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| 18:47:17 | kugel | ZincAlloy: not sure regarding fms; other cabbies don't have that do they? |
| 18:48:16 | kugel | but the wps definitely looks improved, I'd say post an image.zip and the diffs to the mailing list |
| 18:48:18 | ZincAlloy | no, they don't. I made the icons ages ago but noone ever used them.. |
| 18:48:35 | kugel | that's not true, they are used |
| 18:49:11 | kugel | I even put a few gimp .xcf files made from these into git |
| 18:49:13 | ZincAlloy | well, there are no other cabbie v2 fm screens out there. |
| 18:49:51 | kugel | right, we're hesitent to ship a cabbie fms only for select targets. should be an all-or-nothing thing |
| 18:50:36 | ZincAlloy | why? it's nice to have it, no matter if it's available on other targets |
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| 18:51:17 | bluebrother | what't the problem with introducing an fms with that theme and later extending it to others? |
| 18:51:25 | kugel | because we generally want stuff to be done for as much targets as possible, to prevent rot etc |
| 18:51:26 | bluebrother | better do it incrementally than never |
| 18:52:30 | kugel | hm, I see some cabbiev2*.fms in our tree |
| 18:52:50 | gevaerts | kugel: I told Zagor about the gerrit issue now (on a google hangout we were on at fosdem), and he says he's "flying to fix it" |
| 18:52:51 | kugel | ZincAlloy: did you see the 128x128x2 fms? it's in git |
| 18:53:12 | ZincAlloy | no, I based it on the one that came with the simulator build |
| 18:53:59 | kugel | well, let's hope they're not too different |
| 18:54:14 | ZincAlloy | Oh, I could change it. got a screenshot? |
| 18:55:27 | kugel | not right now |
| 18:56:14 | ZincAlloy | I'll try the latest build in the simulator then.. |
| 18:56:38 | kugel | i dont even know which target has 128x128x2 |
| 18:56:46 | ZincAlloy | iriver h10 |
| 18:56:50 | kugel | ok |
| 18:57:18 | bluebrother | I don't think so. The h10 has colour |
| 18:57:28 | bluebrother | but it has 128x128 :) |
| 18:57:41 | ZincAlloy | 128x128x16 |
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| 19:02:45 | ZincAlloy | the one I made has the same functionality as this one I made for 96x96: http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=2045&target=sansaclipzip Not sure if it's exactly what we want, but better than nothing.. |
| 19:04:06 | chris______ | If anyone has the post at http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=44703.new;topicseen#new by AlexP that was deleted before I could read it, I'd be grateful for a copy. Thanks. |
| 19:04:39 | chris______ | And FTR "If chrisjj is here can someone tell him I deleted his flyspray bug report from the forums" I didn't make any FlySpray bug report in the forums. I made a FlySpray bug report in FlySpray. |
| 19:05:06 | gevaerts | chris______: grow up or go away |
| 19:06:13 | kugel | chris______: the last post only contains AlexP's reply saying he's going to close it |
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| 19:33:01 | chris______ | kugel: thanks. Quite what the point of posting then deleting your own post is, I don't know. |
| 19:33:46 | kugel | chris______: i don't know about a deleted post |
| 19:34:15 | kugel | the whole topic was removed |
| 19:41:05 | ZincAlloy | the simulator is up to date. definitely doesn't come with an fms |
| 19:41:33 | chris______ | Thanks also to he who sent me the deleted text - now reposted at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12950#comments . |
| 19:42:40 | kugel | ZincAlloy: which one? |
| 19:42:57 | kugel | h10 doesnt have one, the fms is for 128x128x2 |
| 19:43:13 | ZincAlloy | h10 5gb |
| 19:43:17 | ZincAlloy | ah, right |
| 19:43:56 | kugel | bluebrother said that earler :) |
| 19:44:07 | ZincAlloy | true :D |
| 19:44:14 | ZincAlloy | I'm just being stupid again ^^ |
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| 19:44:46 | ZincAlloy | the simulator is doing some funny things on the fm screen |
| 19:45:03 | ZincAlloy | after activating auto scan it shifts the backdrop down |
| 19:45:19 | ZincAlloy | going into a menu and back to fms fixes it |
| 19:47:58 | ZincAlloy | ah, wait. I didn't activate auto scan. after auto scan it works as expected |
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| 19:50:09 | ZincAlloy | On H10 the screen will be rather empty as it doesn't support rds |
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| 19:52:30 | kugel | many don't |
| 19:55:04 | [Saint] | or useful .sbs control |
| 19:55:17 | ZincAlloy | yeah. I've included rds for future targets, though. |
| 19:55:25 | [Saint] | but I understand fm touch targets are fairly uncommon in our lineup. |
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| 19:56:12 | [Saint] | well, it wouldn;t need to be touch to be useful. |
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| 20:00:05 | ZincAlloy | it doesn't add much usefulness. it's eye candy |
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| 20:15:43 | wodz | MPIO HD200 is 128x128x2 and I crafted fms for this target |
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| 20:17:49 | wodz | MPIO HD300 is 160x128x2 and the fms in our tree is mine as well |
| 20:18:29 | ZincAlloy | this one? http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-mpiohd200/main_menu/images/ss-fm-radio-screen-128x128x2.png |
| 20:19:25 | wodz | this looks like failsafe to me |
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| 20:19:49 | ZincAlloy | that's why I wondered. so the manual's screenshots aren't quite up to date |
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| 20:20:21 | wodz | thats possible |
| 20:21:39 | * | ZincAlloy is starting windows to check it out on the simulator |
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| 20:26:22 | ZincAlloy | it's a little different from my approach.. |
| 20:27:25 | pamaury | chris______: the same bug applies to the bootloader and the main firmware obviously |
| 20:27:55 | pamaury | the boot procedure is: Creative bootloader > RB bootloader > RB and the last too suffer from this bug |
| 20:28:50 | ZincAlloy | http://oi61.tinypic.com/es9kir.jpg |
| 20:29:08 | pamaury | wodz: did you see my comment about YP-C3 the other day ? |
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| 20:42:22 | chris______ | pamaury: OK, as I thought. But then you can why I doubt the value of moving code from RB to RB bootloader. |
| 20:44:07 | scorche | kugel: AlexP: which descriptions need changing? |
| 20:44:54 | kugel | those that suggest discussing bugs is welcome |
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| 20:45:58 | kugel | audio playback, recording, plugins |
| 20:46:51 | scorche | done |
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| 20:50:36 | chris______ | pamaury: Oops, correction: But then you see can why I doubt the value of moving code from RB to RB bootloader. |
| 20:50:51 | wodz | pamaury: No |
| 20:54:09 | chris______ | I see all invitations for discussion of bugs have been removed from Rockbox Technical Forums. |
| 20:54:19 | chris______ | scorche: If it is your intention to disallow bug discussion in the forums, you'll probably want to close the loophole at http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,5958.0.html |
| 20:54:43 | scorche | chris______: the policy has always been that - it is just being made clearer |
| 20:55:12 | gevaerts | chris______: if it's your intention not to get banned from both here and the forums, you'll probably want to grow up |
| 20:58:05 | chris______ | scorche: "the policy has always been that" Interesting. If you've any evidence of that, I'd be interested to see. I've seen nothing in the forum guidelines saying there's a policy disallowing discussion of bugs. |
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| 20:58:40 | Kick | (#rockbox chris______ :grow up) by gevaerts!~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts |
| 20:58:45 | Mode | "#rockbox -o gevaerts" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 20:58:45 | ZincAlloy | I take it that rockbox-dev is the correct mailing list to submit the updated theme to? |
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| 20:59:53 | scorche | chrisjj: go search for it yourself - there was a long conversation about it when we were re-doing the forums |
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| 21:00:31 | scorche | in the end though, the rules are what we say they are - this is not some grand thing that depends on rules and loopholes |
| 21:01:44 | [Saint] | "Because I fucking say so" is entirely appropriate. |
| 21:01:56 | [Saint] | It's never been a democracy. |
| 21:01:57 | scorche | well, perhaps without the "fucking", but sure |
| 21:02:01 | chrisjj | scorche: Thanks but I have searched. I found no consensus on banning bug discussion. On the contrary, only today here AlexP said bug discussion was acceptable. |
| 21:02:16 | chrisjj | gevaerts: Thanks for the suggestion, but I think there's absolutely no chance of my behaviour being less grown up that the norm around here. |
| 21:02:24 | scorche | chrisjj: there is a difference between discussion and filing reports there |
| 21:02:48 | chrisjj | Sure, and I am talking about discussion here. |
| 21:03:30 | [Saint] | lets fall back to "someone that is able to. said so" and drop it. |
| 21:05:20 | chrisjj | Well Saint, that would just lead to anarchy, wouldn't it? |
| 21:06:33 | gevaerts | If everyone were like you, sure. Luckily that isn't the case |
| 21:06:39 | scorche | anarchy implies that there is no one who can say so, but discussion of this sort of thing is a bit off-topic |
| 21:07:23 | scorche | chrisjj: technically, the discussion happened here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,7679.0.html |
| 21:07:25 | chrisjj | scorche: "there is a difference between discussion and filing reports there" And what is that difference? Since (please correct me if I am wrong) you've aid both are now disallowed. |
| 21:07:34 | scorche | you cant see it, but that doesnt mean it didnt happen ;) |
| 21:08:19 | chrisjj | So I guess "go search for it yourself" was in error. |
| 21:08:57 | scorche | chrisjj: the key point is that a typical user may not know whether they have a bug, something that is due to their own configuration, or something that is intended - they can post inquiries |
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| 21:09:14 | scorche | a bug report is different from that |
| 21:09:44 | chrisjj | Meaning discussion of potential bugs is allowed?? |
| 21:10:58 | scorche | it doesnt really matter what i say - going from your history, no matter what i say, you will continue to "test" and do whatever you wish anyway |
| 21:11:08 | scorche | i dont see the point in having this discussion anymore |
| 21:12:01 | scorche | now i am going to take the forums down for a bit to see if i cant beat them into submission |
| 21:12:27 | chrisjj | "it doesnt really matter what i say " Thanks for the clarification. Bye for now. |
| 21:12:44 | scorche | stop being an ass |
| 21:12:55 | gevaerts | *for now*? Change that and we'll all be happy |
| 21:13:46 | scorche | well, we can easily fix this, but for some odd reason give chrisjj the benefit of the doubt that he will shap up eventually as we have had "problem users" in the past turn into great contributors |
| 21:13:54 | scorche | i am rapidly losing faith in this |
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| 21:56:39 | pamaury | chrisjj: I don't understand your statement |
| 21:56:57 | pamaury | wodz: I managed to upload hwstub to the device but then it fails to enumerate |
| 21:58:39 | chrisjj | pamaury: OK...we agree the BSoD can occur #1 at start of RB bootloader and #2 separately at start of RB proper? Yes? |
| 21:59:14 | pamaury | yes, same code, same issue |
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| 22:00:38 | chrisjj | Good. Then what mystifies me is your suggestion that the ugly code move can fix the issue. Because move if from after #2 to after #1 - and so will have no effect on #2. |
| 22:01:01 | chrisjj | s/move if/move is/ |
| 22:02:35 | pamaury | I don't know where you read that, I don't want to move code, I want to remove code |
| 22:12:07 | chrisjj | I read it here http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20140201#14:31:10 |
| 22:12:39 | chrisjj | I guess that's not a code move as I thought. |
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| 22:38:05 | diatommy | Guys, my YP-R0 doesnt Starts. Not even the OF |
| 22:38:13 | chrisjj | pamaury: What's ugly about resuming the Creative bootloader's pause? |
| 22:39:02 | diatommy | When I choose one, The display stays black |
| 22:41:19 | diatommy | Can anyone help me |
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| 22:41:24 | wodz | pamaury: Are you sure hwstub is actually run? |
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| 22:43:36 | diatommy | Hello? |
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| 22:45:39 | [Saint] | diatommy: the port's wiki page covers recovery |
| 22:47:01 | diatommy | Do I have to recover it? |
| 22:50:55 | pamaury | wodz: well it manages to load the first two stages and after loading the third one (hwstub), it deconnects USB and fails to enumerate |
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| 22:52:37 | Josh_ | Hi |
| 22:52:55 | Josh_ | hello can anybody help me? |
| 22:52:59 | pamaury | chrisjj: you have to guess the state in which the OF leaves the LCD, if for some reason it leaves it in a different state you are dead |
| 22:53:25 | Josh_ | :( |
| 22:53:59 | pamaury | Josh_: only if you state your problem |
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| 22:54:27 | Josh_ | My Fuze v1 will not turn on. |
| 22:54:33 | | Quit diatommy (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) |
| 22:54:53 | Josh_ | IT has worked fine for years |
| 22:55:13 | Josh_ | But i plugged it in 5 minutes ago and it died. |
| 22:55:19 | pamaury | is the battery low ? did you try to reset it ? |
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| 22:56:01 | Josh_ | Yes i tried everything, battery was full, it gave me a gray screen with some numbers for less than a second and turned off. |
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| 22:56:35 | Josh_ | Held the power button for a minute but nothing |
| 22:57:10 | AlexP | Running Rockbox? |
| 22:57:16 | AlexP | What version? |
| 22:57:21 | Josh_ | Of course. Dev |
| 22:57:27 | AlexP | recent? |
| 22:57:38 | Josh_ | few months. |
| 22:57:47 | AlexP | It might have crashed with the screen off |
| 22:57:49 | Josh_ | One or two. |
| 22:57:53 | pamaury | wodz: do you have a way to ensure hwstub is running ? |
| 22:58:03 | AlexP | In which case you need to let the battery run down until it is dead, then recharge |
| 22:58:16 | Josh_ | How long will that take? |
| 22:58:25 | AlexP | I'm not sure whether that a) was a problem in the fuze and b) if it was fixed or when though |
| 22:58:36 | Josh_ | And could i perhaps open it and disconnect the battery? |
| 22:58:37 | AlexP | If it's full could be a day or two I guess |
| 22:58:50 | AlexP | that would do it too, no idea how doable that is |
| 22:59:03 | AlexP | Nor am I sure this is it, I don't know the Fuze well |
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| 22:59:04 | Josh_ | Ive taken one apart before |
| 22:59:11 | Josh_ | not this one |
| 22:59:14 | Josh_ | but another |
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| 23:00:28 | rockdudeguy | My friend gave me his sansa clip zip to fix and put on rockbox, the problem is that it hangs in the refreshing media screen and will not connect to the computer and even when trying to force msc mode it will still not connect to the computer just hangs in the sansa logo, any ideas? |
| 23:00:38 | Josh_ | Well thank you guys i will try to open it without scratching the plastic, thank you. can i stay connected for 30 minutes? |
| 23:01:09 | AlexP | Sure, as long as you want |
| 23:01:27 | Josh_ | Ok, thanks |
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| 23:04:33 | rockdudeguy | I've been working on this for about 45 minutes already and cannot get the thing to connect to the computer |
| 23:04:37 | rockdudeguy | :( |
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| 23:07:27 | rockdudeguy | still hanging at sansa logo can anyone help me? |
| 23:07:53 | pamaury | rockdudeguy: might be file system error or bad mp3 tags, maybe you should reset it, plug usb and check for errors and then check your tags |
| 23:08:14 | rockdudeguy | how can i reset it? |
| 23:08:28 | diatommy | My Rockbox doesnt starts |
| 23:08:42 | pamaury | But since it's an OF problem, you better search on sandisk forum where there might be an answer. I think you have to hold power for 10 or 20 seconds |
| 23:09:02 | pamaury | rockdudeguy: also if you have a microSD, try to remove it |
| 23:09:53 | rockdudeguy | sandisks chat is not available today, tried that already, no microsd |
| 23:10:38 | ReSeT_W | does the auto utility will install rockbox on my ipod classic(6th) right away? |
| 23:12:01 | [Saint] | No. |
| 23:12:22 | ReSeT_W | what i need to do? |
| 23:12:30 | [Saint] | Rockbox Utility cannot install Rockbox on the Classic. |
| 23:13:28 | [Saint] | The only boot loader, emCORE, is an entirely separate project and not supported by Rockobx. |
| 23:14:25 | [Saint] | see: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation/iPodClassic |
| 23:15:31 | ReSeT_W | ill check it Saint, Thank you |
| 23:15:53 | rockdudeguy | btw I checked the forums and no one had a solution, I thought that someone over here may have some trick to help me get rockbox on the thing |
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| 23:18:03 | pamaury | rockdudeguy: if you cannot boot the OF, I'm not sure you can install Rockbox although I'm not expert. Did you try to reset and plug in to your computer ? Check for file system errors and remove all mp3 files (or maybe move them out of the Music directory if that's what the OF scans), maybe it will do |
| 23:18:53 | rockdudeguy | reset but will not connect to my computer |
| 23:19:39 | pamaury | also refresh ? |
| 23:20:05 | rockdudeguy | what do you mean |
| 23:20:07 | diatommy | Guys, this happens when I start my ypr0, please help me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KnFMqBuU9U&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
| 23:20:54 | pamaury | rockdudeguy: why doesn't it connect ? |
| 23:21:23 | rockdudeguy | it just hangs at that sansa logo |
| 23:22:25 | chrisjj | pamaury: Re ZEN, how about you reset the LCD but not the DMA controller? I'd think the LCD state itself can't be contributing to the lockup. Then perhaps there's no guessing needed, or you have to guess just the LCD state, where trial and error is much easier since you get some visual feedback. |
| 23:24:39 | diatommy | What can I do |
| 23:27:08 | diatommy | Guys come on |
| 23:27:46 | rockdudeguy | thanks for your time pamaury, I have to go now. |
| 23:28:03 | pamaury | diatommy: if we knew we would tell you don't you think ?! The developer of the port is not online so appart from the wiki information we don't know more than you |
| 23:28:53 | pamaury | given the video I would expect you to push of the directional button to select the mode you want ? |
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| 23:29:21 | diatommy | It automatically chooses rockbox |
| 23:29:49 | diatommy | Same thing happens when I choose tye of |
| 23:30:23 | pamaury | maybe kugel knows, I think he has worked on the YP-R0 ? |
| 23:34:52 | kugel | diatommy: what's wrong? |
| 23:35:07 | diatommy | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KnFMqBuU9U&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
| 23:36:01 | kugel | looks lime rockbox fails to start |
| 23:36:12 | kugel | how did I ou |
| 23:36:24 | kugel | you install it? |
| 23:36:59 | diatommy | http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showpost.php?p=620734&postcount=887 |
| 23:38:18 | diatommy | Same thing happens when I start OF |
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| 23:50:37 | diatommy | Is it normal that there is nothing in the neo ghost volume? |
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| 23:56:13 | wodz | pamaury: I used backlight as an indicator when porting hwstub. |
| 23:57:16 | pamaury | how is backlight controlled on the YP-C3 ? |
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