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| 00:38:28 | myndzi | is there a one-color rockbox logo? |
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| 01:13:43 | gevaerts | myndzi: something like http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=blob;f=apps/bitmaps/native/rockboxlogo.160x53x1.bmp;h=7e34b23c6b21b22826b8f001c01c11de6ca3b3b8;hb=HEAD maybe? |
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| 01:17:59 | gevaerts | Althought given that the regular logo is really only three colours, taking just the black from http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=blob;f=docs/logo/rockbox-logo.svg;h=a33189cefb84a5e9b34c33ab9fd7def9e87934e6;hb=HEAD *might* be reasonable |
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| 01:21:31 | nonMOOSE | sup |
| 01:22:21 | nonMOOSE | so hey, I just loaded rockbox on my gf's 2gb ipod nano- and am totally confused (as it doesn't seem to work the way my old 30gb ipod classic did w/ rockbox installed)... |
| 01:22:24 | nonMOOSE | like |
| 01:23:26 | nonMOOSE | I wanna take the songs she's already got on the device, and de-itunes them (convert to regular filenames/folders, etc.)- and then set it up so I can just copy mp3's etc... onto the device like it's a jump drive |
| 01:23:36 | nonMOOSE | well the latter is the most important piece... |
| 01:24:06 | nonMOOSE | we can always re-rip and/or re-get all the songs she's got in her itunes library right now |
| 01:24:34 | nonMOOSE | (my goal is also to completely avoid using itunes- or any apple software if I can( |
| 01:25:43 | nonMOOSE | so yeah anyways... It's prolly been 4 or 5 years since I had that 30gb ipod w/ rockbox installed.... |
| 01:26:32 | nonMOOSE | I somehow managed to lose the free ipod someone gave me :( |
| 01:27:10 | nonMOOSE | well at least I've still never given apple a single cent of my money ;0 |
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| 02:19:38 | soap | nonMOOSE, what is your question? |
| 02:19:58 | soap | How to remove the iTunes-loaded songs and readd them properly named? |
| 02:20:19 | soap | Or "why does Rockbox not look like I recall it looking 4 or 5 years ago"? |
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| 02:33:30 | myndzi | gevaerts: turns out i need it too small, i wound up tracing by hand in photoshop and adjusting for fire, plus removing the line details |
| 02:33:56 | myndzi | almost done except the treble clef intersects itself and i don't want it to cut out :( |
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| 03:28:40 | myndzi | http://imgur.com/9mB6Jyl http://imgur.com/iZK9VHE ? |
| 03:29:05 | myndzi | first definitely i think |
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| 14:46:02 | lebellium | wouldn't it be possible to send an email to the authors who made a now broken theme? I feel sad seeing so many themes broken due to the new theme engine restrictions :( |
| 14:59:21 | copper | restrictions? |
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| 15:02:18 | lebellium | yep |
| 15:02:38 | lebellium | the theme engine is now more restrictive about width and height |
| 15:02:46 | lebellium | that's why so many themes are broken |
| 15:03:45 | lebellium | check here for more info: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,29851.0.html |
| 15:09:38 | copper | https://outpost.fr/viewimg/a8E.png |
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| 15:25:35 | nonMOOSE | soap: well, back when I was using it before- the interface/theme seemed pretty similar, however the MUSIC, VIDEO, ETC. directories were clearly the 'main' focus- until a track started playing- at which point it did the old 'current playlist' deal, and then brought you right back to the music folder(s) and told you to queue up more songs.... |
| 15:27:50 | nonMOOSE | dunno, this revision (at least on the ipod nano) basically hid the itunes tracks completely, and didn't create a MUSIC or whatever folder automatically- which 'kind of' leaves the n00b/dinosaur user going "Wait a minute, I thought this was a fucking mp3 player..? NOT ANYMORE!" heheh |
| 15:28:50 | nonMOOSE | heh- only a 2gb player is kinda pushin' the limits on minimum amount of storage |
| 15:29:35 | nonMOOSE | seeing as the first mp3 player ever (diamond mm 64mb) was well, 64mb's- and came out in ~1997/8 if I recall |
| 15:30:11 | copper | I have no idea what you mean |
| 15:31:11 | copper | but then I have no idea what Rockbox looked like 5 years ago |
| 15:31:33 | copper | also, what theme are you talking about? Cabbiev2? |
| 15:33:41 | copper | I think you want to use the database |
| 15:34:08 | copper | since iTunes renames music files when transfering them, to something that's unusable |
| 15:34:28 | copper | the database will read the metadata and present your tracks neatly organized by artist, genre, etc… |
| 15:35:29 | copper | alternatively, you can delete all music files present on the iPod and copy the original files in your iTunes music directory on your PC, which should have a usably file and directory structure |
| 15:35:50 | ZincAlloy | or do both :) |
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| 16:24:21 | bertrik | pamaury: I'm thinking the clip sport is either an AMSv2 (like the clip zip) or like a fuze+. Is there any way to tell? Like the presence of a bootloader mode that can be triggered, or a specific USB configuration? |
| 16:25:47 | pamaury | bertrik: recovery mode can tell you yeah |
| 16:26:25 | pamaury | imx recovery mode has usb 066f:3780 and is typically reached by holding a button when plugging usb |
| 16:27:35 | pamaury | or by plugging usb, holding the power button and pressing reset |
| 16:28:13 | bertrik | hm, now all we need is someone with a clip sport to try stuff like that! :) |
| 16:28:34 | pamaury | yeah, I asked on ABI but got no answer |
| 16:28:53 | bertrik | I wonder if the 128x128 resolution is easy to port, there was quite a bit of work for 96x96 |
| 16:30:49 | pamaury | do we have 128x128 targets ? |
| 16:31:03 | ZincAlloy | yes, iriver h10 |
| 16:33:00 | bertrik | gogearhdd1630, lyreproto1, mpiohd200 are 128x128 and creativezenv is close with 132x132 |
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| 17:04:39 | soap | nonMOOSE, Even 4-5 years ago you had to create the tagcache database before you would have been able to see your iTunes loaded music. |
| 17:05:29 | soap | If I'm hearing you correctly you're complaining that on the 2GB Nano you don't automagicly have your music / videos waiting for you upon boot but you did have that on your older player some years back. |
| 17:06:31 | soap | If I'm hearing you correctly I'm telling you that you misremember, as there was never a period in time where iTunes-added music was so easily available and never a time in which itunes videos are playable. |
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| 17:19:01 | soap | but copper has outlined where you need to go to deal with the situation I believe |
| 17:31:02 | wodz | pamaury: Any news with yp-cp3? I have some free time this evening so I could help |
| 17:31:50 | pamaury | no |
| 17:34:28 | wodz | anyone have an idea why adding struct declaration to firmware/export/config.h breaks codecs.make ? |
| 17:35:52 | pamaury | wodz: maybe because it parses it and expect it to contain only #define stuff |
| 17:37:38 | wodz | yeah, it must be something like this |
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| 17:40:27 | pamaury | I don't see anything suspicous but that must the explaination somehow |
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| 17:55:13 | wodz | pamaury: I started experimenting with elfloader again. Now I would like to resolve external symbols (just like kernel modules works in linux). The problem I see is the considerable space increase as the symbols are referenced by name so you have to hold string + value for every exported symbol |
| 17:56:52 | wodz | I was thinking it should be wise to use hash instead of string. Do you have an idea how this could be done wrt to build system? How to build such array of structs {hash, value} and link it into the binary not affecting addresses obviously? |
| 17:58:16 | pamaury | what is the advantage of using symbols instead of a vtable ? |
| 17:58:43 | pamaury | appart from the obvious simplification from a programming/linking point of view ? |
| 17:58:59 | wodz | what do you mean by vtable? |
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| 17:59:41 | pamaury | just like for codecs |
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| 18:00:35 | wodz | you cannot easily export from such modules |
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| 18:01:41 | wodz | What I am still thinking about is to split some parts of *core* into loadable modules. |
| 18:01:41 | pamaury | oh you want to expert symbols too, indeed |
| 18:02:14 | wodz | like for example tagcache, radio etc |
| 18:02:27 | pamaury | how much space do symbol take and what is win of using a hash ? I mean real life figures |
| 18:04:18 | wodz | symbol takes strlen(symbol name) + sizeof(void *) + sizeof(char *) |
| 18:04:37 | wodz | with hashes it could take sizeof(int) + sizeof(void *) |
| 18:05:14 | pamaury | "readelf -s rockbox.elf | grep FUNC | wc -l" gives 2900 symbols but I would need a better estimation |
| 18:05:30 | wodz | and searching would be much faster. With names you need to perform binary search with strcmp() each time, with hashes you simpy compare |
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| 18:06:41 | wodz | Not only FUNC, but I am thinking about explicit symbols exporting (like in linux) which should considerably reduce the number |
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| 18:08:39 | ulmutul | Hello everybody! I'm working on a better scrollstrip implementation (my target: Vibe500) |
| 18:09:09 | ulmutul | It should of course have adjustable speed settings |
| 18:10:38 | ulmutul | My question is: in settings_list.c I can use CHOICE_SETTING(...), but I don't like the idea of strings named "fast, super fast, insanely fast, damn slow" |
| 18:10:39 | pamaury | readelf -s rockbox.elf | awk '{ if($4=="FUNC" || $4=="OBJECT") print($8) }' | awk 'BEGIN { size=0; } { size+=length($1); } END { print(size); }' |
| 18:10:39 | pamaury | gives ~82000 so yeah quite a gain spacewise |
| 18:11:38 | pamaury | however it won't be that easy to have hashes instead of names |
| 18:11:45 | ulmutul | so another possibility would be to use TABLE_SETTING(F_ALLOW_ARBITRARY_VALS,...), but it's poorly documented. |
| 18:12:39 | ulmutul | I forgot to mention that the scrollstrip should also have an "off" setting, I think of something like "off, -2,-1,0,1,2" |
| 18:12:41 | wodz | ulmutul: you should ask JdGordon probably |
| 18:13:01 | wodz | ulmutul: why would you like to disable scrollstrip? |
| 18:14:10 | ulmutul | It's better for some games, they just suck with scrollstrip. With strip setting "off" the upper/lower half of the strip is handled like ordinary up/down buttons when touched. |
| 18:15:37 | pamaury | wodz: the problem I see with symbols is for the main binary because these have to be included in the final non-elf binary |
| 18:16:21 | ulmutul | Hm, I think I need some kind of "formatter" that's used for TABLE_SETTING. |
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| 18:16:30 | wodz | pamaury: with strings thats is no issue. macro trickery + ld trickery do the job |
| 18:16:59 | pamaury | I mean for hashes |
| 18:17:04 | wodz | pamaury: with hashes, yes thats problematic and hence my ask for advice |
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| 18:17:22 | pamaury | for modules you can postprocess the file but for non-hash... |
| 18:17:28 | pamaury | for non-module |
| 18:17:33 | Keanu73 | ahem |
| 18:17:35 | Keanu73 | EXCUSE ME |
| 18:17:43 | Keanu73 | CAN SOMEONE QUIT THE NICK "LOGBOT" |
| 18:17:47 | Keanu73 | please? |
| 18:18:03 | wodz | Keanu73: no you can't. This IS our logbot |
| 18:18:07 | Keanu73 | grr |
| 18:18:08 | pamaury | Keanu73: no caps please, this our logbot so no |
| 18:18:20 | Keanu73 | get another nick instead PLEASE |
| 18:18:24 | Keanu73 | like "ChanLogBot |
| 18:18:25 | Keanu73 | " |
| 18:18:34 | pamaury | Keanu73: do you want to get kicked ?? |
| 18:18:38 | Keanu73 | nope |
| 18:18:46 | pamaury | so please so it, like now |
| 18:18:49 | pamaury | *stop it |
| 18:18:59 | Keanu73 | is logbot used with pircbot? |
| 18:19:05 | Keanu73 | this one? |
| 18:19:41 | Keanu73 | or with IRC syntax |
| 18:19:50 | Keanu73 | ??? |
| 18:19:54 | ulmutul | BTW, anyone here with another scrollstrip target? I still have to do some code cleanup and then get into this git/gerrit stuff, but with some parameter tweaking the code should run with pretty much any strip-target. |
| 18:20:28 | wodz | Keanu73: Whats your problem actually? The nick is taken, get another one, simple |
| 18:20:36 | Keanu73 | :/ |
| 18:20:53 | wodz | ulmutul: I have hd300 somewhere in my drawer |
| 18:20:55 | Keanu73 | wodz: is the bot made with pircbot at jibble.org/pircbot.php? |
| 18:21:16 | Keanu73 | because there's a similar logbot to this one: http://www.jibble.org/logbot/ |
| 18:22:03 | pamaury | wodz: there is an "obvious" solution though which is to include strings and then post process but this way you waste space |
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| 18:23:42 | wodz | I think I first make it work with strings and then I'll start to scratch my head how to do this with hashes |
| 18:26:07 | pamaury | you could do it this way: post-process, add to the final binary (at the end) and then at the first beginning of loading, move it around so it ends up in so dynamically allocated buffer |
| 18:29:39 | wodz | its funny someone popped up with vibe500 while I am testing stuff on exactly this player :P |
| 18:33:01 | pamaury | wodz: I have another idea |
| 18:33:21 | pamaury | wodz: with macros you can add some empty space in the binary for each symbol and the string in another one |
| 18:33:40 | pamaury | then you postprocess the binary to fill the empty section with the hash table from the string table |
| 18:33:54 | pamaury | easy :p |
| 18:34:01 | wodz | could work |
| 18:35:19 | pamaury | actually you would need to prefill the "empty" section with something not-empty of course, like pairs {addr, ptr to string} and then post process to replace by {addr, hash} |
| 18:36:29 | wodz | and strip the section with strings |
| 18:36:50 | ulmutul | wodz: I like this player, because it has all standard connectors. |
| 18:37:09 | pamaury | wodz: yeah exactly |
| 18:37:22 | wodz | ulmutul: I meant its rather rare |
| 18:37:48 | wodz | pamaury: sounds like a plan. I need to make it work for strings first |
| 18:38:33 | pamaury | yeah definitely |
| 18:44:59 | ulmutul | success with my TABLE_SETTING(..). I had to make my own scrollstrip_formatter(). |
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| 18:50:36 | wodz | hell, string version is working |
| 18:53:00 | wodz | pamaury: ^ |
| 18:54:21 | pamaury | wodz: incredible :) nice work |
| 18:55:02 | wodz | I just resolved 2 external symbols. lets switch cube fully :-) |
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| 21:57:36 | pamaury | any ARM expert ? |
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| 22:08:31 | lebellium | kugel doesn't seem to be here but maybe someone else has an idea: FS #12951 |
| 22:08:32 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12951 Menu icons one pixel too down now (bugs, unconfirmed) |
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| 22:35:35 | wodz | pamaury: I am not an expert but You can try to ask the question actually :-) |
| 22:37:26 | pamaury | this code doesn't seem to work: pamaury/9025537">https://gist.github.com/pamaury/9025537 |
| 22:37:51 | pamaury | I don't understand why |
| 22:38:01 | pamaury | (the IRQ and SVC mode are setup to use different stacks) |
| 22:38:47 | wodz | pamaury: first thing is that EABI dictates 8bytes alignment of the stack and you push 9 registers |
| 22:40:20 | pamaury | hum good point but since no code is run in IRQ mode except those two little pieces of code, is that relevant ? |
| 22:40:39 | wodz | dunno, just saying |
| 22:41:37 | wodz | you force SVC 4bytes stack alignment as well |
| 22:41:55 | wodz | ah, scrap that |
| 22:42:54 | pamaury | for SVC I ensure 8-byte alignement |
| 22:43:56 | wodz | do you reach _irq_handler or it fails earlier |
| 22:45:09 | pamaury | most of the time the code seem to work but sometimes I get random crashes and out of the few times I can get an address it's a data abort usually on entry of _irq_handler (ie in the very first push {}) |
| 22:47:11 | wodz | pamaury: the usual return sequence from irq is subs pc, lr, 4, I vaguely remember that you are supposed to update status on return |
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| 22:49:21 | pamaury | I think that's what the "^" is supposed to do in ldm |
| 22:49:26 | pamaury | at least that's my understanding |
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