#rockbox 2014-03-06

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#rockbox log for 2014-03-06

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00:14:56	JdGordon	[Saint]: which targets have that problem?
00:15:53	[Saint]	From memory, very few. I'd need to check properly when I get home.
00:16:29	JdGordon	adding a %cc for it would be simple
00:20:42	JdGordon	looks like the 160*128 size screens
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00:25:59	Bice	Hi. I was in here yesterday with the problem that my iPod video running Rockbox had started only playing the first track of a playlist and then it froze up. A couple guys walked me through how to run chkdsk on the iPod's hard drive and then reinstall Rockbox, and that fixed it.
00:26:06	Bice	But now I'm having another problem...
00:26:43	Bice	The iPod will play sound through the headphone jack, but it doesn't put out any sound through the other connection (I'm not sure what it's called - its the one on the bottom that the USB cable hooks up to).
00:27:08	Bice	I've got an adapter in my car that hooks into that connection, and now when I hook it up, no sound comes out.
00:27:12	Bice	Any ideas?
00:27:55	Bice	Is there a setting that might have changed that would cause it not to put audio out to that "USB" output? I looked through the settings and didn't see anything obvious.
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00:32:29	saratoga	wodz: probably jhMikeS, although i might be able to help if the question is very simple
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00:37:07	Kevin578	is there a way to get rockbox to auto-shutdown after a period of inactivity?
00:37:35	alexbobp	yes, it's a default feature actually
00:37:36	Kevin578	the closest thing I found is idle power-off but that doesn't work if the player is playing something
00:37:43	alexbobp	ahh you want the sleep timer then
00:37:45	Bice	Funny you should ask that - I just read the documentation on that while trying to figure out my problem...
00:37:47	alexbobp	playing something isn't inactivity :P
00:38:12	Kevin578	well, sorta. I'm looking for a feature that would power off rockbox if I don't push a button for like 15 min
00:38:16	Bice	Oh, I was about to paste the URL, but yeah, it doesn't count playing a track as inactdivity.
00:38:21	saratoga	sleep timer
00:38:28	saratoga	FS #12957 is interesting
00:38:30	alexbobp	the sleep timer is in the same menu with idle poweroff
00:38:43	Kevin578	but the sleep timer would shut rockbox down regardless if I was using it
00:38:46	saratoga	never ceases to amaze me how many valid mp4 streams one can find
00:38:59	alexbobp	Kevin578: I see... sadly what you want doesn't exist in rockbox
00:39:36	Kevin578	I sometimes take take my rockbox off without turning it off, and its still playing music. so the idle-timer doesnt work. And I dont want to use the sleep timer since it would shut down ieven if i was using it
00:39:41	Kevin578	alexbobp: oh ok
00:39:50	saratoga	Restart Sleep Timer On Keypress
00:39:55	saratoga	isn't that what you are asking for
00:40:01	Kevin578	yeah, thats it
00:40:22	Kevin578	is that a feature?
00:40:27	saratoga	yes
00:41:24	Bice	Can anyone take a stab at my problem? If you didn't see it - I connect my iPod Video up to my car stereo via an adapter that connects to the wide, thin port at the bottom (I'm not sure what it's called - the one the USB cable connects to). Since I re-installed RockBox yesterday, it no longer puts out sound through that connection (I get no sound in the car). Headphone jack works fine though.
00:41:43	Bice	Is there a setting that got changed or something? I've been searching, but I'm not coming up with anything.
00:42:16	alexbobp	ohh ok, don't listen to me
00:42:19	alexbobp	thanks saratoga!
00:44:01	saratoga	Bice: did it ever work in rockbox?
00:44:34	Bice	Yeah, it has worked fine for around four years, up until yesterday when I re-loaded Rockbox.
00:44:36	alexbobp	whoah I just tried to register on flyspray and apparently I have an account
00:44:40	alexbobp	it must be half a decade old XD
00:45:17	saratoga	i guess one of IAP updates over the years broke it for your player
00:45:41	Bice	Think I should try loading an older version?
00:46:07	saratoga	which are you running now? 3.13 or current build?
00:46:17	Bice	3.13, I think.
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00:46:26	saratoga	i would try updating first and see if its fixed
00:46:39	Bice	Yeah, 3.13, I just checked.
00:47:09	Bice	Updating to what? Isn't 3.13 the most recent version?
00:47:29	saratoga	its a year old stable build
00:47:38	saratoga	IAP has been changed quite a bit since then
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00:48:07	Bice	I have to go take my daughter to a flute lesson - I'll be back in about half an hour or so...
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01:18:00	*	[Saint] needs to finish this touchscreen cabbie template stuff
01:18:44	[Saint]	...and the tabbed UI template.
01:19:33	[Saint]	And whatever else is in all these vaguely named branches I'm keeping.
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01:29:26	alexbobp	is it just me or is flyspray search garbage? (aka how do I search for all the words in my query instead of just any one?)
01:29:48	*	alexbobp is trying to make sure he doesn't duplicate bug reports but it's not easy apparently :P
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01:42:41	alexbobp	oh wow, search for all words is a checkbox in advanced
01:42:44	alexbobp	never mind :)
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02:29:13	alexbobp	gevaerts: should I file this as playback, ui, or operating system?
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08:37:19	wodz	saratoga: (log) Why the beginning of ci codec interface struct is dynamically filled on codec load? Is it because of test_codec or is there other reason?
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08:47:04	jhMikeS	wodz: to keep the functions themselves static, really.
08:48:08	jhMikeS	it's all discarded in INIT_ATTR anyway
08:50:08	wodz	jhMikeS: you mean the functions exported from core or what?
08:52:18	jhMikeS	yeah, the implmentations inside codec_thread.c and pcmrec.c
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08:53:12	wodz	void codec_get_buffer_callback(size_t size) doesn't seem particularly static or INIT_ATTR
08:54:21	wodz	jhMikeS: ^
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08:55:02	jhMikeS	mistake? oversight?
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08:58:27	wodz	jhMikeS: So if I simply resolve those to functions from core by other means then current interface it should not have any hidden side effects, right?
08:58:53	wodz	I mean evolution of elfloader
08:59:31	jhMikeS	oh, that one's not in codec.c
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09:00:10	jhMikeS	as long as they're the right ones I don't see a problem
09:01:42	jhMikeS	other codec-calling programs implement their own ci
09:07:34	wodz	jhMikeS: That was my question actually. Is this by design to costomize ci or is this because we don't want to bloat plugin rb api
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09:09:31	jhMikeS	It's never customized. It's just implemented by other codec users.
09:10:19	jhMikeS	it has no great significance, really
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09:11:43	wodz	so if test_codec could resolve thouse functions to the core implementation everything will work I assume
09:14:43	jhMikeS	ummm...no, test_codec needs it's own versions
09:14:48	jhMikeS	*its
09:16:09	jhMikeS	same with warble
09:22:29	wodz	bah
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13:39:01	lebellium	hum about http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=2080 and http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=2075
13:39:15	lebellium	looks like the guy didn't know he can update his theme
13:39:26	lebellium	maybe an admin could remove his 1st version?
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20:17:45	alexbobp	~.
20:17:50	alexbobp	oops
20:18:28	alexbobp	can someone give me advice on bug severities? my bug is a crash that reboots the player, but you have to do something slightly uncommon to trigger it
20:18:31	alexbobp	I'm thinking medium
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20:28:13	alexbobp	ok bug report made: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12958
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20:43:15	copper	pamaury: I've been busy, then I've been away, then I've had server problems, sorry about that
20:43:33	copper	I'm available now though (now and later)
20:44:44	copper	for bug hunting and testing and whatnot
20:55:14	woky	Hello. I let my Sansa Clip Zip run out of battery and I managed to boot stock firmware. Phew! Thanks for support!
20:56:10	woky	The reason was probably damaged FS. >FAT-fs (sde): error, fat_free_clusters: deleting FAT entry beyond EO
20:56:27	woky	I reformatted it through played and I'll try Rockbox git again. :>
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22:03:24	MrFritzle	Good Evening everybody. I read "http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/FlySprayHowto" carefully and my questions is now:
22:03:40	MrFritzle	How To Report Bugs or Problems in Daily Builds or in other words, will it be usefull for project ?
22:04:13	MrFritzle	...sorry how to be usefull :)
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22:04:34	pamaury	MrFritzle: sure it can, just apply the usual checks: make sure it doesn't already exists
22:04:45	pamaury	and be sure to precise which daily build you are using
22:04:59	alexbobp	here's a flyspray tip, expand advanced search and check "include all words" :P
22:05:06	alexbobp	otherwise it can be very hard to even find out if the bug is already reported
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22:06:57	MrFritzle	ok thx a lot. If i found one i wil do my best, to help. Thanks for your work. I really enjoy the product !! ;) !!
22:07:52	alexbobp	yes rockbox is glorious :D I want to give so many hugs to whoever wrote the goban
22:08:48	gevaerts	alexbobp: FS #7369
22:08:49	fs-bluebot	http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7369 Go/Igo/Weiqi/Baduk game recorder and viewer (sgfbox) (patches, closed)
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22:10:53	alexbobp	ah sweet thanks gevaerts XD
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22:11:14	alexbobp	gevaerts: so is that mudlord?
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22:11:30	mudlord	no
22:11:32	*	gevaerts has no idea :)
22:11:35	mudlord	completely different people
22:11:38	alexbobp	oh ok
22:11:43	alexbobp	I didn't know so many people identify as mud!
22:11:52	alexbobp	so does Joshua Simmons come around irc?
22:12:00	mudlord	Its funny, I was planning of some rockbox updates, but I wish I knew lua for one
22:12:14	mudlord	for instance, boomshine is missing its own menu
22:12:27	mudlord	but i am not sure if Lua plugins allow for rockbox drawn menus
22:12:52	mudlord	I know in the C api there is a entry for plugin menus
22:13:00	mudlord	not sure about lua tho
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22:59:03	fordcars	Does anybody know where I can get the latest bootloader?
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23:02:24	[Saint]	That's a very vague statement.
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23:03:55	[Saint]	Latest bootloader for...? And importantly...why? Generally speaking you shouldn't ever have to update the bootloader unless you're specifically asked to.
23:04:22	fordcars	Sorry, trying to get something out of my rk2706
23:05:33	fordcars	But I need Unix to build, and I have been planning to dual-boot this baby, so I'll do that, later!
23:05:40	fordcars	:P
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23:10:33	[Saint]	Checking out the repo is agonizingly slow.
23:10:37	[Saint]	(－‸ლ)
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23:23:41	Bice	Is it possible to install an older version of RockBox on an iPod Video, and if so, how?
23:24:26	Bice	Ever since I upgraded to the latest version, it's giving me all sorts of problems with my car adapter. Ver 3.13 didn't work at all, and the latest development build kind of works sometimes but always dies after two or three songs.
23:24:34	alexbobp	how much older? you mean older than the latest stable release?
23:24:43	alexbobp	oh wow I see
23:24:48	Bice	Yes, older than latest stable release.
23:25:07	Bice	It was working fine for like three or four years, until I upgraded.
23:25:21	alexbobp	http://download.rockbox.org/release/
23:26:02	alexbobp	if I were you I'd try to find the newest version that does work
23:26:10	alexbobp	and then you can file a bug report saying exactly which release broke it
23:27:09	Bice	So from that download site, I see the various .zip and .voice files for the various versions and players - what do I do with them?
23:27:40	Bice	I've always just used the utility program to install, so I don't know how to do a manual install.
23:28:11	gevaerts	Get the "rockbox-ipodvideo-3.xx.zip" file, and unzip it to the root of the player
23:28:31	Bice	That's it? Simple enough.
23:28:32	gevaerts	Someone else will have to help with the unzipping. I have no clue on how to do that on windows
23:28:39	gevaerts	Yes
23:28:46	Bice	I'm hoping 7-zip can do it.
23:29:19	gevaerts	Make sure it extracts the .rockbox directory properly, and that it doesn't put the lot in a new different directory
23:30:16	gevaerts	Of course, if it does the latter, you can easily move the .rockbox directory yourself
23:34:18	Bice	While I'm in here, does anyone know if sweating on a SanDisk Clip Zip could possibly kill it? Mine died at the gym today, and when I checked it out I found moisture on the external memory card.
23:34:33	maraz	sure.
23:34:40	Bice	Crap
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23:36:18	Bice	It won't even power up, and when I plug it into the USB port, Windows tells me the drive has to be formatted. Is it possible to save this thing, or is it completely dead?
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23:37:49	maraz	suggest using an electronics cleaner to get rid of any possibly conductive... residue
23:38:28	Bice	What's an electronics cleaner? Like a spray?
23:38:36	maraz	yes
23:38:45	maraz	isopropanol, usually.
23:39:04	maraz	i.e. isopropyl alcohol
23:39:21	Bice	Theres a mom-and-pop computer repair place down the road from me, I'll see if they have that. Thanks for the suggestion.
23:39:35	maraz	might not do you any good though.
23:39:57	maraz	electronics generally dislike being shorted
23:41:11	Bice	OK, I've got verson 3.11 loaded - I'm gonna go try it in the car and see what happens. Once Rockbox stops saying "Scanning disk...". Why does it do that?
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