#rockbox 2014-03-08

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02:29:29	eraserhead77	just picked up a sansa clip zip, mainly for the gf's use, but i'll be using it sometimes also...i've played very briefly before with rockbox alone on an older device and just used that, but i think she would prefer just to use the original firmware and i'd use the rockbox when using it...where's the best place to put files to show up on both...i see under the files directory a ##MUSIC## folder
02:29:29	eraserhead77	and then regulars MUSIC, PODCASTS, ALBUM,etc folders
02:31:48	the-kyle	She'll love Rockbox.
02:32:45	the-kyle	Either way, the Clip Zip came with some songs preloaded. If you put any new music in the directory where you see those songs, your music should be visible on both.
02:33:45	the-kyle	I don't use the OF myself, but it would appear to work that way.
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02:34:23	eraserhead77	already got rid of those pre-loaded songs...i'll experiment, and yes getting her to use rockbox would be ideal :P
02:34:57	eraserhead77	it's not complicated but just more options than she would need, but she can just avoid that
02:35:06	eraserhead77	the OF is pretty shitty
02:36:03	the-kyle	Lol I got rid of all those directories. I think your songs can just go in the Music directory, but I could be wrong. I took off everything and added directories the way I wanted them. I doubt they'd play in the OF though.
02:37:20	the-kyle	Honestly, I don't see why the OF wouldn't play them. I would check, but I'm visually impaired, and need the firmware to talk, which is why Rockbox is better for me.
02:38:03	the-kyle	Well, it's the most important reason I guess. There's a whole lot of other reasons why I like it.
02:38:30	the-kyle	Opus support is a pretty big deal here :)
02:38:44	eraserhead77	ah, i'll test it out...and yeah, the rockbox voice feature is excellent for that, my vision up close is good (i can't see anything starting like 15 feet away :P)
02:39:09	eraserhead77	but on this tiny screen even good vision close up is rough
02:39:46	eraserhead77	need to experience with the themes
02:39:50	eraserhead77	experiment*
02:39:55	the-kyle	Yeah, the Clip Zip has a bigger screen than the earlier models, but filenames and menu options can be really rough.
02:42:01	the-kyle	You can set up shortcuts and such that will make her Rockbox experience even easier.
02:43:26	eraserhead77	yeah just glancing around the manual right now...i had it once before for about a week before the mp3 player i had it on got left on the subway
02:43:34	the-kyle	Oops.
02:44:10	eraserhead77	yeah :/
02:44:34	the-kyle	The devs do a good job with the manual.
02:44:54	eraserhead77	then someone gave me a newer generation ipod classic which i used for awhile...capacity was nice but thats about it
02:45:13	eraserhead77	lack of FLAC support (not counting their ALAC crap) was highly annoying
02:45:34	the-kyle	Rockbox works on those up to generation 7 I think. It's a rather non-trivial process to make it work though.
02:46:17	eraserhead77	ah, should have checked into that...i thought it only worked up to the fifth generation
02:46:34	the-kyle	Same here, but apparently 7 also works.
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09:56:57	lebellium	which targets do have sw volume?
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10:07:52	bertrik	I don't know of any
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10:13:59	lebellium	so what for is the latest commit?
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10:40:27	lebellium	v3.13 is 1 year old and 3 days :(
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10:42:41	bertrik	lebellium: I think you can find out by looking for targets which have PCM_SW_VOLUME_UNBUFFERED in their config file
10:44:46	bertrik	sorry, that's wrong, should have been HAVE_SW_VOLUME_CONTROL
10:45:52	lebellium	thanks for the information, but I'm not going to check every single target's config to find one with software volume. I was just curious about the latest commit :)
10:46:03	bertrik	hifiman hm60x, ihifi760, onda vx747, hifiman hm801, onda vx777, ihifi960
10:46:41	lebellium	thanks!
10:47:13	copper	grep ftw
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17:23:43	lebellium	arf adding %V(0,0,-,-,-) to my FMS fixed FS #12953 Oo
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18:02:17	lebellium	I know that %V(0,0,-,-,-) is necessary when using the %VB tag as described here http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWPS but I wouldn't have imagined needing it also for FMS where I don't use the %VB tag. And I still don't understand what's the link with the 1st bad commit when bisecting
18:03:09	lebellium	Now I have a working solution but I'm unsure if the problem is JdGordon's commit or my theme code
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19:34:47	saratoga	is there an issue with album art looking bad on the clip zip?
19:35:08	ZincAlloy	everything looks bad on the clip zip :D
19:35:28	saratoga	is it just a crappy display, or is it a bug?
19:37:28	ZincAlloy	some people were mentioning a bug a couple of months ago iirc. not sure what it was. but the display is really crappy and will bring out the worst of some graphics. especially if they use dark shades of grey.
19:38:13	ZincAlloy	I used to think it was calibrated badly, but it turned out it is just as bad with the original firmware..
19:42:38	saratoga	yeah i found a thread where someone said JPEG looked different than BMP of the same image
19:43:01	saratoga	thats odd, although I can't think of why this problem would be specific to the Zip, we have lots of 16 bit displays
19:43:21	ZincAlloy	right. the zip display might make it more visible, though
19:43:24	saratoga	unless the zip's weird color space just makes a subtle bug apparent
19:43:29	saratoga	yeah
19:43:57	saratoga	Unhelpful_: is there anything in the JPEG code that would be specific to the Clip Zip's 128x128 16 bit display?
19:45:47	lebellium	96x96 *
19:45:52	lebellium	128x128 is Clip Sport
19:47:27	saratoga	opps
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20:09:54	bertrik	clip zip can have two variants of the display
20:10:22	bertrik	for one of them (the one I don't have myself), the calibration tables might be swapped
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20:19:36	lebellium	what I said since october 2011
20:19:41	lebellium	the colors are wrong! :P
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20:55:45	funky	one quick question: the best way to put a playlist on my ipod Rockbox ?
20:56:58	funky	Wow soooo many ppl and no body home
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21:01:09	petur	funky: I think the manual mentions some ways? IIRC you can create some with a PC program
21:01:18	petur	(m3u etc...)
21:06:18	funky	is there a program Like media player that makes it simple? (funky is simple minded) but hates iTunes
21:09:01	funky	I messed with my first install of rockbox last night for hours, couldn't get the thing to change playlists i had by accicent created a playlist. Now I can't change it or play anything on it but the created playlist GRRR
21:12:12	copper	funky: not everyone is right there, ready to answer every single question immediately
21:12:54	funky	I have both ubuntu or win7 I can change op systems very quickly if someone has some other suggestions cause I have no Idea what IIRC is I do know about m3u is though
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21:14:23	*	funky is ready to through a hunk of it at his rockbox ipod
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21:19:19	petur	so, if you know m3u, what's the problem?
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21:19:25	petur	right
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21:23:21	funky2	just missed that last message anyone care to repeat it?
21:25:19	funky2	Please :)
21:25:42	funky2	guess I'm check out again then TTFN all
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