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#rockbox log for 2014-05-21

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00:23:50pauldgrootYeah well, the dx90 is fully balanced inside so everything is double. Combine that with non optimized software and you get this
00:24:41pauldgrootBut well, if it sounds good..
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02:55:21ter2if they put a mobile DAC in a hi-fi player it would be inadequate, though!
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11:33:31Neihi, if I wanted to make rockbox more beginner (say, kids) friendly, that needs hacking the source right
11:37:01copperyou can set what menu entries will be shown in the config file
11:37:26copperlike this: "root menu order: bookmarks,files,database,wps,settings,playlists,plugins,system_menu,shortcuts,"
11:37:47gevaertsI'd say rockbox more beginner friendly needs defining what that means exactly first :)
11:38:43Neiwell, ideally it would only show WPS and menu key would go to the cover flow page
11:38:58Neiand if you're in the menu, menu should go back to WPS
11:39:04Neiso you cant lose your way so to speak
11:40:35Neia very cut-down version of rockbock. wouldn't matter if all the normal options are still reachable somewhere like from the play+menu together shortcut
11:40:50Neican I change key bindings somehow?
11:41:22coppersounds like you really want an iPod Classic with the original firmware
11:41:30Neihihi
11:41:36copperI'm serious
11:41:48Neiyou're not quite off
11:41:57Neibut rockbox rocks
11:42:05Neiand the original firmware sucks
11:42:18Neiand it doesn't play my music properly for whatever reason
11:42:24copperthe OF works rather well and seamlessly
11:42:44Neiprobably my MP3s are somehow wrong encoded or who knows
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11:43:30copperI just remembered that you _do_ have an ipod classic
11:43:38NeiI did want to use OF but that's a show stopper, plus the annoying ipod-proprietary directory structure/database crapshit
11:44:38copperalso, I would definitely not loan my precioussss to kids who are too young to use Rockbox
11:44:48copperscratch that
11:44:56copperI would definitely not load my preciousss.
11:45:00copperloan*
11:45:01NeiI don't know why but OF doesn't play my mp3s, it plays them as if the disc had a scratch
11:45:17NeiI tried with banshee and with gtkpod
11:45:38Neineedless to say that rockbox fixes all that and it even plays all the other formats like ogg etc
11:46:34Neiso actually I'm pretty amazed by rockbox but it is indeed too difficult to use for too young ones
11:47:19copperwhy do they need a DAP in the first place
11:47:42Neiso they stop destroying physical CDs ;p
11:47:42copperone that costs an arm and a leg
11:48:01copperone that is fragile
11:48:11Neino it's the other way round, getting a childrens player would cost like 40$ whereas I already have this ipod shit laying by uselessly
11:48:45Neiand it seems like a rather solid brick piece to me
11:49:21gevaertsDrop it *once*, and the disk could easily be toast
11:49:31gevaertsSure, you're often lucky, but...
11:50:11gevaertsMost of the time a DAP disk is idle and therefore much less vulnerable, but if it happens to be spinning when you drop it, I'd say it's going to be expensive
11:50:13NeiI dropped it myself a few times. you're right, hdd based devices are probably fragile in that regard
11:50:23copperNei: ok I'll trade your iPod Classic for my Clip+ :P
11:51:11gevaertsBut anyway, to answer your original question, yes, you'll need to dive into the source for that sort of thing
11:52:36NeiI'd trade the ipod classic for a solid thing that the little ones can use; showing cover images would be helpful ;)
11:52:47NeiI found most advertised as "kids mp3 player" to be pretty shitty
11:52:51Neithey only have a digit display
11:53:11Neiand thanks for answering my question ^^
11:53:11copperNei: ok I'll trade your iPod Classic for my Fuze+!
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15:12:05gevaerts[Saint]: your turn: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,48300.msg228432.html#new
15:15:56copper"
15:15:56copperIs there a chance for Rockbox for the ipod classic 6G in the near future or at all?
15:15:59copper"
15:16:02copperlol
15:16:10copper[Saint]: please, tell him it's unusable. Please.
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