| 00:26:27 | [Saint] | TheSeven: headset buttons |
| 00:26:45 | [Saint] | re: MiKey |
| 00:30:22 | TheSeven | already suspected that |
| 00:30:32 | TheSeven | but user890104 found something that suggests it might actually be audio recording |
| 00:31:20 | [Saint] | There's a *very* new product by the same name. |
| 00:31:29 | [Saint] | But, it runs off the lightning adapter. |
| 00:31:40 | [Saint] | So, I doubt you'd find it in iPod FW that's ~8 years old. |
| 00:31:42 | TheSeven | it also works with all generations of classics though |
| 00:31:51 | TheSeven | (according to the manufacturer) |
| 00:32:10 | TheSeven | and I haven't found any other thread name that looks like audio recording |
| 00:32:31 | [Saint] | Well, I know it as the HID driver for their headsets and apple approved headsets. |
| 00:33:23 | TheSeven | seems more logical anyway, because I only have trouble with it on the 3g, which is the only one supporting headphone remotes |
| 00:33:28 | TheSeven | btw, even more threads: http://paste.pm/i3g.pl |
| 00:33:33 | [Saint] | Perhaps easier to snoop out what it does if you have access to a Mac. |
| 00:33:41 | [Saint] | I've discovered it there, too. |
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| 01:26:59 | TheSeven | does anyone have a clue what kind of hardware is at 0x39a00000 on s5l87xx? |
| 01:27:47 | TheSeven | likely related to power management somehow, but we don't seem to be ever touching it |
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| 01:38:05 | saratoga | does anyone understand FS #12987? |
| 01:38:36 | saratoga | I think hes basically saying that shuffle only happens when he selects the shuffle option, but he expects it to happen everytime he loads playlist? |
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| 01:43:41 | saratoga | hmm no, that is the current behavior |
| 01:52:41 | [Saint] | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,48309.msg228807.html#msg228807 |
| 01:52:43 | [Saint] | too much? |
| 01:52:55 | * | [Saint] felt the need to be a little forceful here |
| 01:53:16 | [Saint] | (if its too much, I'll tone it down, but I'm shit at parsing such things) |
| 01:57:10 | [Saint] | saratoga: the way I parse it is "Shuffle isn't actually random unless I trigger shuffle manually" |
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| 02:01:41 | K1773R | i have a problem with the current dev build for ipod classics. it panics out with the following message: usb_storage_init_connection() : OOM |
| 02:01:46 | K1773R | OOM? OutOfMemory? |
| 02:02:04 | K1773R | where can i find older development versions to get it working? |
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| 02:03:59 | [Saint] | There's no need to. USe the fallback image. |
| 02:04:07 | [Saint] | That's why its there. |
| 02:04:32 | [Saint] | (well, and to facilitate initial installation, but, anyway...yeah) |
| 02:05:03 | [Saint] | tl;dr: use the fallback image for USb connectivity if you're on a Windows machine |
| 02:07:47 | [Saint] | K1773R: that was for you, BTW. |
| 02:08:07 | K1773R | [Saint]: thanks, this seems to work. i found an older build which i had earlier to put on. |
| 02:09:19 | [Saint] | Generally speaking, using an older build isn't advisable. |
| 02:10:55 | [Saint] | With these type of targets, we actually like it when people use the bleeding edge revisions. |
| 02:12:00 | K1773R | cant really use it as it panics out everytime i connect it to a PC |
| 02:12:30 | K1773R | is this bug known? is there a bugtracker with an entry for it? |
| 02:13:12 | [Saint] | Well, you can use it...'cos, fallback image. |
| 02:13:40 | [Saint] | And, yes, USB craziness on Windows machines is a well known issue. |
| 02:13:53 | K1773R | No Windows thanksfully :) |
| 02:14:09 | [Saint] | Wait...so, its panicing on a linux box? |
| 02:14:15 | K1773R | yes |
| 02:14:16 | dfkt | K1773R, USB works for me *only* when connecting during playback, but then it works all the time |
| 02:14:27 | [Saint] | TheSeven: ^ |
| 02:14:32 | K1773R | wierd |
| 02:14:43 | [Saint] | K1773R: Hmmmm...I can't reproduce this at all. |
| 02:15:04 | [Saint] | Can you give me dmesg output from a plug attempt? |
| 02:15:20 | [Saint] | (in pastebin, please don;t shit out several hundred lines in channel ;)) |
| 02:15:38 | TheSeven | I guess that is without my USB patches? |
| 02:16:03 | [Saint] | Current git head "Just Works" for me. |
| 02:16:06 | [Saint] | As it always has. |
| 02:16:07 | TheSeven | in that case forget about it for now... will likely go away once those are finally committed |
| 02:16:41 | TheSeven | I've seen these OOM's before, and they were apparently the result of some confusion inside the USB stack whether it's plugged or not |
| 02:16:52 | [Saint] | What can I do to help with that, btw? |
| 02:16:54 | K1773R | TheSeven: i installed with the RockBoxUtility |
| 02:16:55 | TheSeven | which was likely caused by a misbehaving driver |
| 02:17:07 | [Saint] | Last time I poked at it I couldn't even get the fucxking driver to compile with our toolchain. |
| 02:17:21 | K1773R | The older version is working well (i can check which one it is, if you want to know) |
| 02:17:22 | TheSeven | [Saint]: if you're willing to take away some legwork from me, get that driver rid of those bitfields |
| 02:17:57 | K1773R | http://pastebin.com/YQ9r10nv <−− here you go |
| 02:17:59 | TheSeven | we know what caused that compilation problem by now, old gcc versions don't support one of the features that I used there |
| 02:18:26 | [Saint] | Hmmm. Must've missed that in the logs. |
| 02:19:15 | [Saint] | Wheeeee... |
| 02:19:29 | [Saint] | sde 'aint a happy drive. |
| 02:20:35 | [Saint] | K1773R: it kinda looks as though this is a trashed filesystem manifesting itself in odd ways |
| 02:21:02 | K1773R | [Saint]: with the older version it has no problems at all |
| 02:21:47 | [Saint] | Hmmmm. SO, dmesg is clean with an older build? |
| 02:23:25 | K1773R | yes, no problems there |
| 02:23:48 | [Saint] | That's fucking odd. |
| 02:24:06 | K1773R | fallback also worked (on the current dev version) |
| 02:24:31 | [Saint] | That's expected. Its a VERY old Rockbox binary. |
| 02:25:11 | [Saint] | Think of the fallback as an entirely separate install, sans resources, plugins, and codecs, embedded into the firmware. |
| 02:26:32 | K1773R | Thats what i thougd too, but wasnt sure if it really is a really old version. i didnt check while having it booted |
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| 02:40:24 | saratoga_ | the new g#566 looks ridiculous |
| 02:40:29 | saratoga_ | almost 20000 lines |
| 02:43:19 | [Saint] | Holy fuckballs. |
| 02:44:10 | * | [Saint] particularly likes the whole: |
| 02:44:29 | [Saint] | "Hey, could you perhaps y'know...changelog?" |
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| 02:44:40 | [Saint] | "Nah...'cos, effort, and stuff" |
| 02:49:17 | JdGordon | only a little change... |
| 02:54:29 | saratoga_ | JdGordon: i'll try and test your latest patch later |
| 02:55:09 | saratoga_ | have you tried it on a grayscale player yet? |
| 02:55:16 | JdGordon | saratoga_: thanks, I didnt change anything which would fix your crash though, and I have no idea how to get you going |
| 02:55:21 | JdGordon | nop |
| 02:55:28 | saratoga_ | you should buy a clip+ |
| 02:55:30 | JdGordon | my mini2g is out of action at the moment |
| 02:55:36 | saratoga_ | i think they go as cheap as 20 USD sometimes |
| 02:57:55 | saratoga_ | on a side note, you could make the skin engine use the log to disk feature :) |
| 02:57:59 | JdGordon | $35 inc postage is about the cheapest on ebay, from uk. i actually have one but the battery balooned and had to be chucked, so maybe i can hook up something to make it work |
| 02:58:51 | JdGordon | maybe :) if you're super bored can you see if you can track down that data abort pretty please? :) |
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| 03:06:21 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: hey, so your giant filesystem changes, any chance that will make it easier/nicer to have a single filetree scanner built on top of it? |
| 03:06:53 | JdGordon | i.e g#224 |
| 03:24:00 | * | [Saint] wonders if this iteration actually compiles |
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| 05:05:45 | jhMikeS | single filetree scanner? |
| 05:05:51 | jhMikeS | JdGordon |
| 05:06:01 | jhMikeS | WTF is that? |
| 05:13:24 | jhMikeS | If it's that thing re: the threads, I already have dircache making a temp thread. It could possibly use an external thread with a callback to its own routine |
| 05:15:41 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: instead of having dircache + tagcache doing their own scans of the filesystem I wanted to add a thread to do it once with callbacks to the things interested in files |
| 05:18:10 | jhMikeS | dircache is a rather unique scanner though, not at all like the user ones |
| 05:20:12 | JdGordon | why? |
| 05:20:17 | jhMikeS | It doesn't use the filesystem code, it is the filesystem code and gets special synchronization and handles raw streams very directly |
| 05:20:38 | jhMikeS | It doesn't open handles for one |
| 05:20:57 | jhMikeS | next it's synchronized with and updated on the fly by file file functions |
| 05:20:59 | [Saint] | Any particular reason for that, or is it purely historical? |
| 05:21:25 | jhMikeS | every reason, it can't be racy like normal scan and it's far more efficient at memory |
| 05:21:27 | JdGordon | right, i stopped working on my patch when it looked too difficult to make dircache use it. Would it be possible to add hooks in there so we only have one thing doing a fs scan? |
| 05:22:14 | jhMikeS | with live updating while scanning, using normal directory reading is not possible |
| 05:22:47 | JdGordon | if the callbacks just want a filename that isnt a problem |
| 05:22:48 | jhMikeS | it keeps it all sorted in filesystem order and needs notifying about every change |
| 05:24:40 | jhMikeS | it also holds filesystem locks for that reason |
| 05:28:27 | jhMikeS | I suppose it's ok for the likes of tagcache and such |
| 05:29:22 | jhMikeS | tagcache doesn't want to visit everything though (with the ignore files) |
| 05:29:52 | JdGordon | pretty much, I wanted to build a list of all .m3u's on the filesystem and not tie it into the database, but also not have to rescan the entire disk a possibly 3rd time |
| 05:30:05 | JdGordon | the patch i linked earlier handles ignore files well enough |
| 05:30:23 | JdGordon | as long as the callbacks happened in a sensible order (read: directory tree order) |
| 05:31:02 | jhMikeS | with dircache scanning, it will speed up the other scans since entries will become available as it goes |
| 05:32:19 | * | [Saint] is reminded that he wanted to look into getting RaaAoA to trigger a mediascan |
| 05:33:20 | [Saint] | Things get REAL complicated with Android |
| 05:34:29 | [Saint] | Notably the bullshitness of applications no longer have ready access to the sdcard outside of /blah/whatever/data/<packagename> |
| 05:35:16 | jhMikeS | so, it's becoming useless and hostile to users? |
| 05:35:25 | [Saint] | And the fact that unless you trigger a mediascan, if you drop .ignore files, or change the content in any way (delete, add, rename) nothing is actually going to be aware of that until mediascan has been run. |
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| 05:36:26 | [Saint] | (which usually happens at boot, unless an application triggers mediascan specifically) |
| 05:36:54 | jhMikeS | sounds like utter crap |
| 05:36:57 | [Saint] | Things changed a fair bit regarding sdcard access in 4.4, but the mediascan weirdness has always been there. |
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| 05:38:29 | JdGordon | why do we need mediascan? |
| 05:38:54 | jhMikeS | it sounds like because it's the only way you're gonna be able to access files |
| 05:39:30 | jhMikeS | 'cause if it's not in mediascan, it's "no soup for you" |
| 05:41:29 | [Saint] | JdGordon: just a bit of a safety net against non-obviousness. |
| 05:41:44 | jhMikeS | [Saint]: what? |
| 05:42:12 | * | jhMikeS parse error |
| 05:47:07 | [Saint] | Hmmmm. Now I think about it deeper, I'm not certain Rockbox should be sticking its nose in here. If we modify the filesystem, its other applications job to keep track of it if they care, I guess. |
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| 05:50:05 | [Saint] | Complicated, perhaps (actually, not perhaps, definitely), by this being handled differently right across the board. |
| 05:51:11 | [Saint] | I have encountered Android devices that will only trigger a mediascan on boot, and removable storage insertion. And also encountered devices that will trigger a scan after every mount to a host. |
| 05:54:22 | * | [Saint] is mildly interested to see how RaaA copes with stock Android 4.4+ but not interested enough to revert to stock |
| 05:55:02 | [Saint] | PA and CM removed this sillyness regarding who's allowed to write to the sdcard. |
| 05:56:21 | [Saint] | My understanding is that we should only be allowed to write to /storage{0|1}/Android/data/rockbox.foo.bar/ |
| 05:56:35 | * | [Saint] forgets what the real package name is |
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| 06:01:07 | JdGordon | [Saint]: is that not where our crap lands? |
| 06:01:29 | [Saint] | We shit our stuff out in /storage/sdcard0/rockbox |
| 06:01:50 | [Saint] | (which used to be perfectly fine) |
| 06:02:03 | JdGordon | seems like it works fine for me |
| 06:02:18 | JdGordon | stock 4.4.2 |
| 06:04:32 | [Saint] | Hmmm. I wonder if that's Samsung's doing. |
| 06:05:12 | [Saint] | Looking at the code, its VERY trivial to change the expected ".rockbox" dir. So, we may as well put it in the right place. |
| 06:05:25 | [Saint] | Even though that might piss people off on update. |
| 06:06:54 | [Saint] | Ahhhhhh - I was confuzzled. Turns out that only the /external/ sdcard has these restrictions. |
| 06:11:16 | [Saint] | non-system apps can only write to files/folders on the external storage that they have created or taken ownership of, or, their /Android/data/<packagename>/ path. |
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| 06:17:27 | [Saint] | Hmmm. |
| 06:18:08 | [Saint] | That likely prevents us from adding bookmarks or our specific dotfiles. |
| 06:19:41 | [Saint] | Aha. Yep. |
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| 07:50:56 | kugel | [Saint]: rockbox does not "shits the bunch of files it creates on first launch" onto the sdcard |
| 07:51:36 | kugel | the installation files are unzipped into the private data dir (/data/app/org.rockbox or so) |
| 07:52:31 | kugel | files created at runtime, including config.cfg are written to the sdcard, though. the .rockbox folder is created by us as well |
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| 08:22:25 | saratoga_ | [Saint]: IIUC, the new SD card limitations do not apply to app's own folders on the SD storage |
| 08:22:47 | [Saint] | Right, I caught that myself and noted it above. |
| 08:22:55 | saratoga_ | ah ok |
| 08:23:15 | [Saint] | But it doesn't bode well for dropping .ignore files and playlists. |
| 08:23:21 | saratoga_ | sorry, just now caught up on the logs |
| 08:23:25 | [Saint] | np |
| 08:23:34 | saratoga_ | yeah, or file management operations in general |
| 08:24:04 | [Saint] | Playlists in general aren't rules out entirely, assuming the user wants to use the playlist catalogue. |
| 08:25:48 | [Saint] | Hmmm...unless the user wanted to use a directory that was under the control of another application, for whatever reason. |
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| 10:02:35 | [Saint] | The last two patches at http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,48368.msg228806.html#msg228806 don't actually seem like bad ideas to me. |
| 10:03:53 | [Saint] | well - I'm not to fussed on pissing with the duration and sizing. but the themeing seems like a reasonable thing. |
| 10:16:21 | kugel | [Saint]: what theming? |
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| 10:55:25 | [Saint] | Nevermind. On closer inspection its not actually doing what I thought at all. |
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| 16:40:20 | iClassic | my iPod, when plugged into Windows 8.1, tells me to Error Check but when I do, it says I couldn't Errorcheck. |
| 16:40:44 | iClassic | I have the 2009 iPod Classic, and yes, it runs on Rockbox |
| 16:40:58 | copper | you mean Windows say |
| 16:41:01 | copper | not the ipod |
| 16:41:04 | copper | says* |
| 16:41:07 | iClassic | right |
| 16:41:23 | iClassic | Windows 8.1 |
| 16:41:59 | iClassic | I plug my iPod in, and W8 tells me to errorcheck, but when I try to, it says There was an Error checking the disk |
| 16:42:15 | iClassic | my music and rockbox and every thing stays in there. But I can't errorcheck. |
| 16:42:27 | copper | where you ever able to transfer music onto your iPod with Windows 8? |
| 16:42:52 | iClassic | in both cases. |
| 16:42:57 | iClassic | pre-and post-Rockbox |
| 16:43:07 | copper | is that a yes? |
| 16:43:14 | iClassic | yes |
| 16:43:35 | iClassic | in both cases, I would transfer my music to my iPod. Now with Rockbox it's easier. |
| 16:43:38 | iClassic | Obviously. |
| 16:43:45 | iClassic | My one complaint is the Errorchecking |
| 16:44:07 | copper | wait, you mean you manage to copy music onto the iPod even with that error message? |
| 16:44:15 | iClassic | Yeah |
| 16:44:26 | copper | vOv |
| 16:44:53 | iClassic | It's like a USB, you can normally do that. |
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| 16:45:05 | iClassic | When an error message pops up you can still copy things in it |
| 16:45:23 | iClassic | but my iPod- which I only rockboxed yesterday- has a different reaction |
| 16:46:40 | iClassic | Perhaps if I can boot the normal iPod Firmware |
| 16:46:50 | iClassic | then the PC will allow me to Errorcheck? |
| 16:47:08 | iClassic | and then how do I do THAT? |
| 16:47:33 | iClassic | I mean, I'm taking guesses here but... |
| 16:47:37 | ikeboy | can you try errorchecking in a command prompt to see the error message? |
| 16:47:52 | iClassic | I'm sort of new to that |
| 16:48:03 | iClassic | but how can I do that? |
| 16:48:27 | copper | iClassic: you can't boot the OF on the Classic |
| 16:48:32 | copper | original firmware |
| 16:48:37 | iClassic | thanks |
| 16:49:01 | copper | you can re-install it but that's about it |
| 16:49:08 | copper | it's either OF or Rockbox |
| 16:49:18 | ikeboy | start command prompt in admin mode, switch to the drive by typing (for example) F: , (will be different depending on how many drives are attached), then type chkdsk /f |
| 16:49:20 | iClassic | thanks ikeboy |
| 16:49:49 | ikeboy | you should be able to start a command in admin mode from Windows Explorer |
| 16:52:41 | iClassic | So in my case it's /e |
| 16:52:58 | iClassic | because my iPod reads as REMOVABLE DISK (E:) |
| 16:53:29 | iClassic | so I type E: |
| 16:53:53 | iClassic | and when I enter chkdsk /e, I get this. |
| 16:54:05 | iClassic | The type of File System is FAT32 |
| 16:54:56 | iClassic | An Unspecified Error Occured <666174766f6c2e63 d6> |
| 16:55:06 | iClassic | I used Admin mode |
| 16:55:08 | iClassic | of course |
| 16:55:27 | ikeboy | no, you type ckdsk /f, f is for fix |
| 16:55:34 | iClassic | oh |
| 16:55:49 | ikeboy | just the switching first is depending on your drive letter, sorry for the confusion |
| 16:57:04 | iClassic | Well I used CHKDSK /F on E: and I got this: The type of File System is FAT32. Cannot Lock the Current Drive. An Unspecified Error Occured <666174766f6c2e63 d6> |
| 16:57:54 | ikeboy | are there any writing going on to the drive? |
| 16:58:03 | ikeboy | copying files or such? |
| 16:58:08 | iClassic | I'm not copying anything |
| 16:58:31 | iClassic | I'm just plugged in |
| 16:58:50 | iClassic | I killed iTunes from this comp |
| 16:58:58 | iClassic | completely uninstalled |
| 16:59:05 | iClassic | no trace |
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| 17:02:01 | ikeboy | I'm not having luck googling the error, it might be a corrupt chkdsk program |
| 17:02:33 | ikeboy | can you check C:? Just switch to C:, then chkdsk, no need to fix |
| 17:02:47 | ikeboy | just to see if chkdsk works on your computer |
| 17:04:39 | iClassic | it's certainly running |
| 17:04:46 | iClassic | works just fine with C: |
| 17:04:53 | iClassic | dunno what the problem is with E: |
| 17:05:07 | iClassic | I basically bought the iPod half a month ago |
| 17:05:15 | ikeboy | do you have enough room to back up the iPod and restore? |
| 17:05:20 | ikeboy | I mean reformat |
| 17:06:04 | iClassic | I can get a USB, I just have 5 gigabytes of music |
| 17:06:10 | iClassic | the USB has 8 |
| 17:06:26 | iClassic | I can just back my music up |
| 17:06:31 | iClassic | and then reformat |
| 17:06:37 | iClassic | is that my final option?? |
| 17:06:44 | iClassic | it would seem so |
| 17:09:17 | ikeboy | if it works fine, you might not need to worry about the diskchecking |
| 17:09:34 | ikeboy | You could also try in windows recovery |
| 17:11:54 | iClassic | and I activate that how? |
| 17:15:20 | ikeboy | http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/2269-system-recovery-options-boot-windows-8-a.html |
| 17:16:44 | ikeboy | you need to do this first though http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/2758-safe-mode-add-windows-boot-manager-windows-8-a.html |
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| 17:36:36 | iClassic | another curious question |
| 17:36:54 | iClassic | in accordance to the iPod ads.... 40,000 songs. You can hold that many in the HDD |
| 17:37:04 | iClassic | do they all show up on Rockbox? |
| 17:37:19 | iClassic | like |
| 17:37:32 | iClassic | if I have just one folder. with ALL THE MUSIC |
| 17:37:53 | iClassic | and set my glyphs and cache to load as much as it possibly can |
| 17:37:57 | iClassic | it'll work right? |
| 17:38:16 | copper | "Note: You may need to increase the value of the Max Entries in File Browser setting (Settings → General Settings → System → Limits) in order to view long lists of tracks in the ID3 database browser." |
| 17:38:21 | copper | 15:37:33 UTC <iClassic> if I have just one folder. with ALL THE MUSIC |
| 17:38:24 | copper | that's horrible, don't do it |
| 17:38:36 | copper | it makes puppies cry |
| 17:39:00 | iClassic | That's how I used to have my Sansa Fuze Plus |
| 17:39:24 | iClassic | or rather |
| 17:39:29 | iClassic | the 32gb inside it |
| 17:40:06 | iClassic | The 32gb on its own held 8000 songs, add to that the fact that I had the 8gb Sansa Fuze |
| 17:40:09 | iClassic | (plus) |
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| 17:40:28 | iClassic | and oh yeah, I rockboxed it right out of the box |
| 17:40:49 | iClassic | SFplus OF was show |
| 17:40:55 | iClassic | *slow |
| 17:41:04 | iClassic | I digress |
| 17:41:12 | iClassic | I'm backing up my music |
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| 17:41:36 | iClassic | but yes |
| 17:41:54 | iClassic | the question I have is: If I start rockbox again |
| 17:41:59 | iClassic | from scratch |
| 17:42:08 | iClassic | would I still get errorcheck messages? |
| 17:42:13 | iClassic | and even so |
| 17:42:21 | iClassic | it shouldn't be much to worry about right? |
| 17:42:49 | iClassic | I mean, with the Sansa Fuse Plus I had last year, there were absolutely positively no problems, for the one year that it worked :c |
| 17:46:42 | iClassic | Sorry if it seemed as though I was ramblng on |
| 17:46:55 | iClassic | *rambling |
| 17:47:36 | iClassic | and to <copper> , How should I categorize my folder? |
| 17:47:51 | iClassic | I don't want to have so many.... |
| 17:47:58 | iClassic | Mayhaps I should Categorize it by Decade? |
| 17:48:12 | ZincAlloy | depends on how you want to browse your music |
| 17:48:24 | ZincAlloy | but then again you also have the database |
| 17:48:25 | iClassic | I really just use the Database on RB |
| 17:48:42 | iClassic | whatever option there is, depending on my mood |
| 17:48:48 | iClassic | Artist/Album Artist |
| 17:49:04 | iClassic | I figure the only Category not there is a DECADE category |
| 17:49:35 | iClassic | And Copper suggested not to have all my songs in one Folder, when this is how I've been doing it for years. |
| 17:49:59 | ZincAlloy | finding stuff must be a nightmare |
| 17:50:16 | ZincAlloy | I just went for an artist/album file structure |
| 17:50:29 | ZincAlloy | I don't use the database, though |
| 17:50:37 | iClassic | Yep. I just use the database |
| 17:50:47 | iClassic | so it's not astoundingly nightmarish |
| 17:50:48 | iClassic | xD |
| 17:51:07 | ZincAlloy | the problems begin when you need to find a file |
| 17:53:46 | iClassic | Using the DB, all I do is look for whatever song I wanna hear |
| 17:53:55 | iClassic | then just let it shuffle |
| 17:54:06 | iClassic | everything else |
| 17:54:17 | ZincAlloy | shuffle. another feature I never use :D |
| 17:54:38 | ZincAlloy | Guess I'm an album guy |
| 17:54:54 | iClassic | Yeah... at the risk of quoting LMFAO, I use that EVERY DAY. |
| 17:55:16 | iClassic | Literally, everyday I'm shuffling |
| 17:55:38 | ZincAlloy | :D |
| 17:58:48 | iClassic | but yea |
| 17:58:53 | iClassic | what I'mma do from now on, |
| 17:58:58 | iClassic | is categorize by Decade |
| 17:59:04 | iClassic | as far as Folders go |
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| 18:01:53 | copper | yuck |
| 18:02:16 | copper | that requires you to remember if an album was released in the late 80s or the early 90s |
| 18:02:40 | iClassic | again, i use Dtabase |
| 18:02:44 | iClassic | *database |
| 18:02:52 | copper | then don't bother sorting at all :P |
| 18:03:12 | iClassic | XD I know, but in doing the Decade thing, |
| 18:03:19 | copper | stay away from my devices though, I don't want your collection to contaminate mine |
| 18:03:20 | iClassic | that's a category that hasn't been tapped yert |
| 18:03:34 | iClassic | xDDDD lmao Copper |
| 18:03:40 | ZincAlloy | you think his messy collection is viral? |
| 18:04:15 | iClassic | Dude I used to have Over 9,000 songs. 9,800 to be exact |
| 18:04:30 | copper | which only makes it worse |
| 18:04:33 | iClassic | From Jazz-Fusion to J-Pop to K-Pop to Top 40 |
| 18:04:42 | iClassic | songs as far as the eye could see |
| 18:04:49 | iClassic | or as far as the ear could hear |
| 18:04:55 | copper | k-pop! |
| 18:04:57 | iClassic | either way you get what I'm driving at |
| 18:05:03 | copper | stay far, far away from my devices! |
| 18:05:14 | iClassic | *laughing so hard* |
| 18:05:33 | iClassic | So because I'm a closet SONE, my sh*t's a mess? |
| 18:05:47 | copper | what's wrong with Artist/Album/Tracks |
| 18:06:02 | iClassic | I use Artist/Album/Tracks |
| 18:06:07 | copper | no you don't |
| 18:06:08 | iClassic | sometimes year and Genre |
| 18:06:15 | copper | you have all your songs in a single directory |
| 18:06:27 | iClassic | but I use Database ti get to those songs |
| 18:06:30 | iClassic | *to |
| 18:06:31 | copper | maybe you're trying to save on inodes |
| 18:07:35 | iClassic | But my question over all: |
| 18:07:40 | iClassic | 40,000 songs, one Folder. |
| 18:07:46 | iClassic | Will it show up or will it bust? |
| 18:08:27 | ZincAlloy | the atomic battery may blow up, causing a minor nuclear holocaust |
| 18:08:56 | iClassic | dude XDD why'd that make laugh so hard |
| 18:08:59 | iClassic | *make me |
| 18:09:10 | ZincAlloy | not sure. are you stoned? |
| 18:09:16 | iClassic | Nah man |
| 18:09:23 | iClassic | I'm straightedge |
| 18:09:27 | ZincAlloy | easily amused then |
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| 18:10:18 | iClassic | Well I just had an iHolocaust due to having lost 9800 tracks |
| 18:10:29 | iClassic | because of installing Rockbox |
| 18:10:35 | copper | why do you care if they all show up in the file browser, since you're not going to use it? |
| 18:10:42 | copper | no problem for the database |
| 18:10:43 | ZincAlloy | ^^ |
| 18:10:52 | iClassic | That's the answer I was looking for |
| 18:10:56 | ZincAlloy | you should have made a backup |
| 18:11:05 | iClassic | Zinc, you're right |
| 18:11:06 | copper | Backup. Sounds interesting. |
| 18:11:24 | iClassic | And the funny thing is, I DID use to have a backup |
| 18:11:50 | ZincAlloy | ironically, as soon as you have a backup drive, your work drive will never fail again |
| 18:12:11 | iClassic | I basically said "hurrdurr, everything's on my iPod and it works, sure enough" |
| 18:12:16 | iClassic | then deleted my own backup |
| 18:12:22 | copper | that's how you learn |
| 18:12:39 | iClassic | I was sure Rockbox wasn't gonna even work on my iPod |
| 18:12:43 | iClassic | having already tried with a used one |
| 18:12:46 | ZincAlloy | the best way to learn is from other people's mistakes |
| 18:12:58 | copper | I had a catastrophic hard drive failure that lost me my entire FLAC collection |
| 18:13:10 | copper | I had to re-rip all my CDs |
| 18:13:24 | copper | now I have one working copy and two backups |
| 18:13:34 | iClassic | I need myself an EHD |
| 18:13:39 | iClassic | just in case |
| 18:14:38 | iClassic | good thing a 500gb one is cheap nowadays |
| 18:14:55 | iClassic | $70something for 500? Good enough! |
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| 19:44:26 | lebellium | I don't know why... |
| 19:44:55 | pamaury | lebellium: weird, did the playlist ended ? maybe your forgot to select repeat all ?. |
| 19:45:40 | lebellium | no it didn't |
| 19:45:54 | lebellium | I had a 25hrs playlist |
| 19:46:05 | lebellium | when I turned it on this morning it lost the playlist |
| 19:46:28 | lebellium | so there was probably a crash at some point |
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| 19:50:37 | pamaury | indeed |
| 19:50:59 | pamaury | well, I guess you can simply resume, it looks like it was going rather well ^^ |
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