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#rockbox log for 2014-07-11

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11:42:52[Saint]Hmmmm.
11:45:26[Saint]Why isn't "/path/to/rockbox/source/rockbox/tools/configure −−prefix=/home/saint/path/to/preferred/installation/directory" actually installing in ~/path/to/preferred/installation/directory when I do "make install"?
11:54:20kugel[Saint]: that should work
11:54:41*[Saint] nods
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14:49:33copperRockbox needs a polarity inverter DSP
14:51:57preglowwhat for?
14:54:41copperfor wonky hardware that inverts polarity, for some mysterious reason
14:54:58coppersome say polarity inversion isn't audible
14:55:09coppersome say it's audible with specific sounds, such as drums
14:56:13copperthis guy seems to have been able to ABX it: http://www.hydrogenaud.io/forums/index.php?showtopic=28925
14:56:57copperI haven't tried ABXing it, but sure enough, the music sounds "normal"
14:57:50preglowi very, very much doubt a 180 degree phase shift is audible
14:58:00coppervOv
14:58:31copperheadphone / speaker membranes aren't symmetrical, are they?
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14:59:18preglowthey're very much designed to be
14:59:43preglowbut sure, if you've got assymetrical speaker membranes, then inversion might be audible
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15:00:01preglowi'd rather stick to the stuff that reproduces sound properly
15:01:12copperI don't actually know (about membranes)
15:02:05copperI can't think of a reason why they would make asymmetrical membranes
15:02:46coppersince headphones / speakers should be able to reproduce sine waves without distortion
15:02:50preglowthey really wouldn't :>
15:02:58preglowbut it might be the case
15:02:59preglowno idea
15:03:11preglowcould be some assymetrical distortion elsewhere in the signal path too
15:04:20copperhttp://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l149/lowyat/bassmiddle.jpg
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15:04:30copperdoesn't look symmetrica
15:04:33copperdoesn't look symmetrical
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15:05:05preglowkinda hard to see without it moving
15:05:12preglowthe excursion is all that counts
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17:54:44franklinIs there something similar to splash_show() and splash_hide() in the plugin API?
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19:51:39JordiGHHm, how do I build an installer from the git repo?
19:52:17JordiGHLike the Windows .exe? It doesn't have to be an .exe, since I'm using Debian, but I just don't get how to actually install the rockbox I built.
19:52:48JordiGHLike, overwrite the original bootloader?
19:55:32gevaertsJordiGH: qmake && make in rbutil/rbutilqt
19:55:51JordiGHAh! Thanks.
19:56:38gevaertsI can't remember right now how that deals with bootloaders though.
19:56:58JordiGHAh, uisimulator, I can actually test a plugin without trashing my clicker, right?
19:57:07JordiGHClicker := Sansa Clip+
19:57:27gevaertsI mean, the installer usually downloads bootloaders from the server. I'm not sure if you can get rbutil to install local bootloaders
19:57:36gevaertsYes, mostly
19:57:49gevaertsJust pick "S" from configure to build a simulator
19:58:13JordiGHAt last, mwahahah, I will have 2048 on my clicker.
19:58:15gevaertsIt's a simulator though, not an emulator, so there will be some differences
19:58:36gevaertsIt should be quite difficult to brick a device from a plugin though :)
19:59:01gevaerts(except of course the nand flash plugin on the irivers...)
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20:10:15franklinJordiGH: 20
20:10:18franklinJordiGH: 2048
20:10:25franklinJordiGH: :D
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20:12:08franklingevaerts: How can I use threads from a plugin?
20:12:36kugelfranklin: use the threading functions provided by the API
20:12:47gevaertsAren't there thread_*() functions in plugin.h?
20:12:50franklinThere are none, AFAIK
20:13:15franklinNever mind!
20:13:36franklinEmacs only searches forwards...
20:14:14kugelwe all know emacs lacks a decent editor
20:14:44franklinBut has EVERYTHING else :D
20:20:31franklingevaerts, kugel: Or is there a better way to show a splash when saving a game?
20:20:48gevaertsWait, you're considering using threads for *that*?
20:20:59franklinIs there a better way?
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20:23:06bertrikI'm quite sure
20:23:14franklinLike...
20:23:27gevaertsJust set ticks to 0
20:23:34gevaertsAnd repaint when you're done
20:23:53franklinThank you!!!
20:24:07gevaertsThat's what every other plugin does
20:24:57franklinNo... They all do splash(HZ, "Saving")
20:25:38gevaertsWell
20:25:43gevaerts7 do that
20:25:46gevaerts9 use 0
20:26:16franklinI'm using BlackJack as my reference plugin
20:26:43franklinWell, thanks!
20:26:58gevaertsIt can pay to look at more than one example :)
20:27:39franklinNoted.
20:28:05bertrikfranklin: I appreciate you working on a 2048 game plugin :)
20:28:27franklin:D
20:28:43franklinCode-review it, then :)
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20:31:24bertrikyou are creating a new version every day it seems, what are you changing every time?
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20:36:53franklinbertrik: all the bugs seem to be fixed, now I'm just making it behave like other plugins
20:37:05bertrikoh ok
20:40:19franklinbertrik: also, im adding a few new features :D
20:43:51franklinDo you have any feature ideas?
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20:49:10franklinbertrik: 2048 is pretty much done now. Perfectly stable, but might have some compatibility issues
20:50:27bertrikfranklin: no, i don't have any feature ideas, just keep it simple IMO
20:50:45bertrikhave you tried how it looks on different targets?
20:51:25franklinIt works on ipod6g, sansa e200 (sim)
20:51:29bertrikthe sansa clip for example, has a square display, would be nice to have it fit exactly and get nice graphics appropriate for the screen resolution
20:51:52franklinbertrik: yes, I have a different screen layout for wide/square displays vs tall displays
20:52:08franklinI just need someone to test it.
20:52:42franklinbertrik: also, I have different resolution tiles for each screen size.
20:53:02bertrikoh cool
20:53:21bertrikare the numbers pre-rendered, or do you write them dynamically using a font?
20:54:00bertrikfor relatively low res displays, it looks nice to have anti-aliased numbers for example
20:54:23franklinThey are pre-rendered.
20:54:39franklinSo they are relatively HQ
20:55:45franklinThe only *big* thing left to do is drawing the grid background. It would be nice if I wasn't on a text terminal :D
20:57:53franklinbertrik: have you tried it?
20:58:40bertrikI tried one of the earlier version on the sansa clip zip simulator
20:59:19franklinHow was it?
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21:00:54bertrikthe sizes of the boxes seemed to have variable width, didn't like that very much yet ... but the game works as I expected
21:01:19franklinThe newer versions have them in pre-rendered bitmaps
21:01:28franklinTry the latest version
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21:17:30bertrikhm, version 17 won't compile for me
21:17:47bertrik/home/bertrik/rockbox/rockbox/apps/plugins/2048.c:964:25: warning: case value ‘128’ not in enumerated type ‘enum plugin_status’ [-Wswitch]
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21:24:16franklinYeah. That only shows when you build the simulator.
21:24:58franklinWorking on it now.
21:25:02bertrikI'm running debian unstable, so I guess I have a relatively new gcc
21:25:25bertrikI have gcc 4.9.0
21:26:39franklinNo, just a bug on my part.
21:27:00franklinShould be very simple to fix
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21:28:16franklinFixed. Compiling now.
21:31:25franklinIt compiles. Now just need to test...
21:32:50franklinbertrik: By the way, I'm using Arch. So I have the GCC build from the git repo :D
21:33:19bertrikah
21:33:35franklin:D
21:36:42franklinIt works! Off to Gerrit!
21:37:44franklinbertrik: try it now.
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22:03:06franklinberkrit: there's still a tiny bug! One-line fix, though.
22:04:06franklinIn Super Domination, shouldn't the computer surrender when it has no more farms/factories?
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