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#rockbox log for 2014-07-30

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02:40:30franklinIs there a function in PLA that returns a string based on an action?
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02:50:53JdGordonfranklin: no, you get generic action values, not strings
02:50:59JdGordonyou'll need to make a table for that
02:51:06franklinJdGordon: a HUGE table
02:51:20franklinJdGordon: I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing pointless work
02:52:49[Saint]There's still room for that.
02:52:52[Saint];)
02:53:59franklin[Saint]: what?
02:54:17[Saint]doing pointless work.
02:54:24franklinSAS® Analytics Pro: 8,700 USD :O
02:54:58franklin[Saint]: so should I write that? something like const char* pluginlib_getactionname(int action)?
02:55:50[Saint]What is it you're trying to achieve? And for what means?
02:56:17franklinLike in the Star plugin, the help screen shows the controls
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02:56:45franklinI want a function that does that, instead of it being hard-coded like in Star
02:57:35[Saint]Its 2048...the controls should be fairly intuitive I would think.
02:57:48[Saint]Its not really rocket science.
02:58:17franklin[Saint]: just for future and existing plugins
02:58:58franklin[Saint]: the plugins really need some more consistency, so I think all the games should have a help menu to start with
02:59:17[Saint]that's what the manual is for.
02:59:32[Saint]no real need to shit help dialogue into the bianry.
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03:00:25franklin[Saint]: how long does it usually take for a patch to get accepted?
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03:01:14[Saint]As long as it takes to get it to a commitable state, and get reviewed.
03:01:30[Saint]At present, it wouldn't be accepted.
03:01:34franklinWhy?
03:01:43[Saint]No documentation.
03:01:58franklinDocumentation as in...
03:02:03franklinCode comments?
03:02:08[Saint]Manual.
03:02:18franklinI have to write a manual for 2048?!?!
03:02:26[Saint]...yes.
03:02:42franklinAside from that, what else"?
03:03:07[Saint]Aside from that, I don't know, the last time I looked at it was about twenty thousand commits from you ago.
03:03:13franklinWhat languages does it need to be in?
03:03:35[Saint]en-uk, always en-uk.
03:03:45[Saint]translators take care of the rest. you don't.
03:03:50franklinwhew
03:03:59franklinSo what format? wiki? plain text?
03:04:06[Saint]TeX
03:04:17franklinMore stuff to learn...
03:04:17[Saint]..you have seen our manual, right?
03:04:57franklin[Saint]: like how detailed of a manual?
03:05:26[Saint]I think you need to take a look at our manual.
03:05:41franklinJust did
03:06:06[Saint]If you wanted to, you could /probably/ submit manual text in plain text, but that would just mean someone else would need to write the manual entry before it got committed.
03:06:39[Saint]regardless who writes it, it needs a manual entry before it hits the source.
03:06:49franklinLike: "Press right to make all the tiles go right. Press left to make all the tiles go left" and so on?!
03:07:52[Saint]...kind of. Except we don't hardcode keys in the manuals. Its best to take a look at an existing entry.
03:08:01franklinYeah, I am right now
03:08:14[Saint]One manual entry needs to encompass all targets it is enabled for.
03:09:03[Saint]You could almost certainly submit the text in plain text, but I couldn;t say who would then write the manual entry. Nor when.
03:09:25franklinI'd like to see this by next millenium
03:09:55[Saint]Well, its no secret that this project has very few active members presently.
03:10:14franklinLike you, saratoga, gevaerts?
03:10:17[Saint]And those that are active have time enough for their own endeavors.
03:10:41[Saint]Actually, none of us of those three are particularly active.
03:11:20franklinWho is, then?
03:13:19[Saint]http://www.rockbox.org/since-release.html
03:14:02franklinabout 10
03:20:35franklin[Saint]: how many screenshots do I need to make?! One for each target res and color depth?
03:26:44franklin[Saint]: is there an automated tool to make screenshots with?
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03:30:45franklin[Saint]: how were the screenshots created? each one by hand?
03:31:25franklinthere's 53 devices for which there are manuals
03:31:29franklin55, sorry
03:36:15franklin[Saint]: I've written the manual, do I need screenshots?
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03:42:20franklinTheSeven: does a manual entry NEED a screenshot?
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11:35:41krnlynghi, i am trying to build rockbox with the infones plugin as found here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/2911 i had to fix a few calls to pcm_play_data, and now it builds, but during link time i get these errors: http://pastebin.com/SiCLf2zp any ideas what could be causing this?
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11:38:03dongsi just installed rockbox using rockbox-utility on sansa clip+
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14:11:54gevaertspamaury: is that for the crosstools one?
14:12:00pamauryyes
14:12:17gevaertsIf so, the crosstools-ng version we try to build is incompatible with gnu make 4.0
14:14:01pamaurywhat can I do ?
14:14:50gevaertsIIRC the issue is something silly. Let me have a look...
14:17:28gevaertspamaury: you need http://pastebin.com/7D0xiABc
14:17:54gevaertsUnfortunately I'm not familiar enough with rockboxdev.sh to know how to apply it
14:18:08pamauryI have tried to make the arm cross compiler only and it worked
14:18:21pamaurywhich cross compiler uses crosstools ?
14:18:35gevaertsarm-app
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14:29:51fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3New build round started. Revision 78f4f7b, 253 builds, 29 clients.
14:29:55gevaertspamaury: fixed
14:30:00gevaertsWell, that bit, anyway :)
14:30:03pamaurygreat thanks :)
14:32:04pamauryI'm building all the other cross compilers at the moment, I'll test afterwards
14:32:13pamaurywe will soon have a new build client ;)
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14:46:36pamauryhttp://pastebin.com/J5We7tWj
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14:50:39*gevaerts tries something
14:54:16pamauryI'm testing a few builds before setting up the client
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15:12:19gevaertspamaury: I've pushed another fix, which handles the failing download
15:12:36gevaertsI now suspect something isn't compatible with gcc 4.9 :)
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15:35:45pamaurygevaerts: my build client is up
15:36:14pamauryis there a way to test it ?
15:36:26gevaertsYes. Commit something :)
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15:54:56*sobukus wonders if there is actually anyone interested in a final version of http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/887/ to be submitted as proper patch
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16:01:01franklingevaerts, does a manual entry need a screenshot?
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17:14:19franklinDoes a manual entry for a plugin need a screenshot?
17:15:05pamauryfranklin: what do you mean by screenshot ?
17:15:21franklinLike in the manual, most of the plugins have a picture to go with them
17:18:13pamauryah I seee, yeah probably, I don't know much about the manual though
17:18:36franklinI didn't either :)
17:19:22franklinpamaury: how should I create the screenshots?
17:19:33pamaurywith the screendump functionality
17:19:40franklinEach manual for each target has a target-specific screenshot
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17:19:54franklinSo I need a screenshot for every target rockbox runs on.
17:20:02pamauryhum, probably not actually
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17:20:09pamaurylet me see
17:22:02pamauryfranklin: apparently there is one screenshot per screen size / bit depth
17:22:04pamaurymake sense
17:22:16franklinwell, still, thats at least ten different targetsd
17:23:59pamauryyou can do it with the sim
17:24:10pamauryI'm not sure it's absolutely mandatory though
17:24:12franklinThat's at least 10 sims I need to compile
17:24:20franklinThere must be an easier way
17:25:06pamauryyou can probably cheat and resize the image ^^
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17:30:47franklinpamaury, also, is there some way to have a function called on idle shutdown? I have just verified that atexit does not work.
17:31:44pamaurynot that I know, what do you want to achieve ?
17:32:59franklinsave game on shutdown
17:33:08franklin2048, of course :D
17:35:48pamauryprobably the code should be fixed to call atexit on shutcode
17:36:03pamauryI'm trying to have a look at how it works
17:37:39pamauryor maybe you can react to the SYS_POWEROFF event
17:39:34franklinSYS_POWEROFF? An action?
17:42:20pamauryyeah, that's an action returned by the action system (which can include buttons and other events such as this one)
17:42:36franklinOK, I'll fix that
17:42:37pamaurybut still, atexit handle should be called on poweroff I think
17:42:42franklinYeah
17:42:46franklinHow would that be done?
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17:43:13pamaurybut it's quite confusing, because some rockbox button function do some processing on top of the actions and won't return SYS_* codes, I never remember how it works
17:43:35pamauryI think the atexit() magic is done in apps/plugins/plugin_crt0.c
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17:45:28franklinSo does sys_poweroff ever get returned as an action?
17:46:22pamauryfranklin: if you get the action via pluginlib_getaction() I think it does, some other functions might do
17:46:46franklinOK
17:46:51pamauryalso I might be wrong but if you call exit_on_usb(btn) the atexit handler will be called on power off (and on usb too).
17:47:16pamaurygrep for exit_on_usb() in plugins to see
17:47:55pamauryrb->button_get() should also return an action for power off
17:48:31pamauryso yeah best is probably to keep your existing code, and in the "default" case of your button handle, call exit_on_usb(btn)
17:48:42franklinso do I use rb->default_event_handler(button)==SYS_POWEROFF?
17:49:28franklinOr just button==SYS_POWEROFF
17:49:52pamaurycheck the return value of default_event_handler()
17:49:58franklinOK
17:50:37franklinand do I do exit_on_usb?
17:50:42pamauryso yeah looking at your 2048 code, you should do res = rb->default_event_handle(button); if(res == SYS_POWER_OFF) { blabla } if(res == SYS_USB_CONNECTED) { bliblibil }
17:51:01pamauryhum, if you handle them by hand I don't think you need to
17:51:33franklinok
17:51:38franklinthank you
17:51:44pamaurywhat you could do though, is to replace the entire if(rb->default_event_handle(...))) by a single call to exit_on_usb()
17:51:51pamauryand then implement saving in atexit handle
17:51:54pamauryI think that would work
17:52:08franklinls
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17:52:55franklinpamaury, what else does 2048 need to be commitable?
17:53:39dfkt_patience ;)
17:53:52franklin^^
17:54:10pamauryI'm not sure but if you have the code, the credits, keymap for all targets, manual entry that should be fine
17:54:22pamaurysomeone should probably review your code before that of course
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17:54:26franklinAll done :)
17:55:02franklinOne final patch set
17:55:42franklinhave you noticed that doom doesn't work on ipod6g?
17:56:01pamauryof course it's better if you have a screenshot for your plugin
17:56:22franklinfor EVERY res and EVERY color depth? Or just one?
17:56:39pamaurybut thinking about it now, I don't think it's too dramatic if you take the same image for all targets, that's better than nothing and way easier than getting all of them
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17:57:14franklinpamaury, well, that made things a *lot* easier :)
17:58:05pamauryto be honest, I'm not convinced all the images for the other plugins were actually produced by building all the sims
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18:00:44franklin I never was
18:02:27franklinpamaury: exit_on_usb calls the exit handlers for USB and poweroff! :D
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18:04:29franklinWeird. XChat just disconnect and reconnected by itself
18:07:48franklinpamaury: ipod6g crashes on screendump with a stack overflow, so I can't create a screendump.
18:09:14pixelmaIIRC the image handle for plugin screenshots in our tex rules expect the images to be of the correct resolution otherwise it won't use it automatically for the build manual
18:09:26pixelma*Handler
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18:10:57pixelmaor at least with the correct name (naming scheme is fixed)
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18:18:12franklinpixelma: I'm not adding screenshots. :p Too much work. I might add AI, though
18:32:43pamauryfranklin: yeah that's a known bug on some targets
18:52:47franklinpamaury: how to fix?
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19:25:36pamauryfranklin: I don't know, I didn't look at it
19:31:38franklinpamaury: why doesn't RBUtil support ipod6g? it works fine to install fonts, themes, game files, etc. Just not bootloader.
19:31:58franklin(it does, but it is unsupported)
19:38:55pamauryI don't know, I know next to nothing about the ipod6g
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19:42:55franklinwhat DAP(s) do you have?
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