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#rockbox log for 2014-08-12

00:00:15saratogafranklin: sorry I've been busy
00:00:23franklinOh it's fine
00:00:24saratogais 2048 compiling on all targets where its enabled?
00:00:29franklinYes! :D
00:00:39saratogaok i'll hit the button and see if you're correct
00:00:51franklinI hope...
00:01:26fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3New build round started. Revision b61553c, 253 builds, 30 clients.
00:01:49saratogaprobably something will fail, so stick around for a few in case in need you to fix some red
00:03:35franklinok... 4 minutes
00:03:42saratogamy bet is either coldfire or one of those rare hosted targets that is really hard to build for
00:04:02franklinHaven't tested on those :/
00:04:23franklinDoes android build plugins?
00:04:55franklin3 minutes...
00:05:47franklin2 minutes...
00:06:23franklinAnd it's fine if the Recorder doesn't work, right?
00:06:47franklin1 minute...
00:07:11franklinI'm betting on Android not working
00:07:15saratogarecord doesn't have >1 bit so it shouldn't build
00:07:19franklinIf it builds plugins
00:07:19saratogai think android doesn't build plugins
00:07:25franklinok then...
00:07:29franklin20 seconds...
00:07:39saratogathat number is approximate by the way
00:08:16franklinof course...
00:08:52fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3Build round completed after 446 seconds.
00:09:06franklinwow all green
00:09:39saratogayeah lets call that one a success
00:10:12franklinBut does it work? :/
00:10:51saratogaas long as it builds
00:11:00franklinBut does it RUN?
00:11:08saratogathats your problem
00:11:32franklinSoon enough, people will start complaining... if something's wrong
00:12:09franklinWell, thanks :)
00:12:42franklinBut again, I was kind of hoping to get to patch set 88 so it would be Gerrit #888/88 :)
00:12:45fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #888 at : 3Added 2048 game by Franklin Wei
00:13:25franklinsaratoga, you have an ipod?
00:13:43franklinand what about the wiki page?
00:13:49saratogaan old 3g, but not handy
00:13:56saratogafunamn has my nano2g i think
00:14:16franklinSo you want to try the new piezo patch?
00:14:42saratogai'm not even sure the 3g has piezo working
00:14:47saratogathat port was never really completed
00:15:32saratogadoes it compile on the older ipods?
00:15:45franklinSims work, but IDK about HW
00:15:50franklinJust 1g/2g sim
00:16:42franklinAnd classic 6g
00:17:51franklinon hardware
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00:30:08lleelooundefined reference to `find_first_set_bit', but find_first_set_bit in ffs.S still present
00:30:13lleeloogive me advice
00:45:52jhMikeSwhere is it undefined? codeclib?
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00:49:23[Saint]The viewers icons have been fucked up for years.
00:49:29[Saint]And, no one knows why.
00:49:45[Saint]The code that governs them is fucking nightmarish.
00:49:59[Saint]And, at the end of the day, no one really gave a shit.
00:50:20jhMikeS[Saint]: which viewers?
00:50:22franklinBut check out the patch anyways... :)
00:50:47[Saint]jhMikeS: all of them, given the right conditions.
00:51:20[Saint]The entire viewer/icon display code is garbage.
00:55:04jhMikeSone thing I noticed is icons are messed up if the text is too small rather than the line height being the max of the icon or the text
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00:56:20[Saint]Indeed. But we currently have no way to have the line height be anything other than the text height.
00:56:36[Saint]Well...except on touchscreen, with that weird line height padding.
00:56:54[Saint](which shouldn't be touchscreen specific, but, is...)
00:57:17*[Saint] should probably fix that
00:57:57[Saint]But even then the line height padding isn't smart enough to take icons into account and will still crush them.
00:58:19jhMikeS[Saint]: there should be no global line height bs really
00:58:46[Saint]While I agree, lists aren't as simple as they appear to be.
00:59:07[Saint]There's quite a lot of shit going on in the background to draw those relatively simple lists.
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00:59:29jhMikeSthen the code should be disposed of because it's a friggin' list and that isn't a terribly complicated thing
00:59:46[Saint]It is when you involve our theme engine.
00:59:56[Saint]And, you know damn well we can't dispose of it.
01:00:00jhMikeSmaybe there's something afoul in the design
01:00:02[Saint]What will we replace it with?
01:00:33[Saint]Its all very well and good saying its shit and it needs replacing, but saying it doesn't get it done. ;)
01:00:36jhMikeSthe theme engine was hacked into existing code, not designed into the thing from the start
01:00:51[Saint]I disagree with that immensely.
01:01:03[Saint]Its plainly untrue.
01:01:05jhMikeSI was there when it happened :)
01:01:20[Saint]You apparently weren't there when it was re-worked from the ground up...
01:02:03jhMikeSI guess not. So why's it so troublesome then?
01:02:27[Saint]Because humans are involved.
01:02:48jhMikeSwhat else would be?
01:03:00[Saint]It mostly comes from theme authors doing things that were *never* thought of during implementation.
01:03:24[Saint]If one was to use the theme engine as intended its surprisingly robust and durable.
01:03:32jhMikeSthat and the "kinetic" thing
01:03:56jhMikeScode at this level isn't robust if it only survives intended use
01:05:00[Saint]Well, do feel free to do your thing and cut yourself off from the outside world for ~6 months and come back with a massiver patch that walks across the entire source tree and fix it up. ;)
01:05:16jhMikeSIsn't that what I always do? :)
01:05:44jhMikeSchange 10k line? no problem! Just do a little every and you get there.
01:05:48jhMikeS*every day
01:06:38jhMikeSI'd have to know what the particular issues are though and where they would originate
01:08:47*[Saint] chuckles
01:09:01[Saint]I *love* it when people ask questions like that.
01:09:10[Saint]I suspect OP won't be as amused.
01:09:44[Saint]Oh noes! My post count is 1234...gah.
01:09:47jhMikeSmaybe it's enough
01:09:55jhMikeSyou can never post again!
01:10:01[Saint]Such a pretty number. Don't want to break it. Gah.
01:12:10ZincAlloyYou'll have to if you ever want to reach 1337
01:13:11[Saint]Indeed. I'm just about to ruin it now.
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01:25:04franklin[Saint]:,48463.msg229240/topicseen.html#msg229240... because of VID/PID?
01:26:19jhMikeS[Saint]: I see problems like the list caring about the scrollbar height. This is bad. It should only have to consider it's own display area.
01:27:26[Saint]People disagree with me here, but, I think our no regressions policy really fucked us in the ass here.
01:28:02[Saint]The refusal to break compatibility lead to lots of hacker and bullshittery in the code to keep the legacy shit glued together.
01:28:05jhMikeSAnd "KISS"
01:28:18*jhMikeS drinks to that
01:28:35jhMikeSIt's call the stovepiped antipattern
01:28:44[Saint]I understand *why* it was done, but, hindsight is a beautiful thing.
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01:29:06jhMikeSI bitched about it 10 years ago\
01:30:47jhMikeSI knew the project would have to adapt to changes like what it's encountering now and if it can't, it will die because it will get stuck
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01:32:52jhMikeSThere's a reason for certain design patterns. They aren't just something acedemic or something a boss makes you do to annoy you. It really matters where it starts as to how easy it is to keep scaling it to new stuff.
01:34:15jhMikeSI remember being told how lack of abstracting memory and managing it was a good thing. I didn't think so but others were convinced.
01:39:09jhMikeSI'm sure it can be rectified though but not without going for broke and risking regression, which might not actually happen if the overall quality improves.
01:44:45franklinHey, does the ipod Classic have a mic?
01:45:45jhMikeSdoes it have a mic source option?
01:46:02franklinNo, but the wiki says "Recording does not work"
01:46:14franklinSo does that mean it has a mic, but you can't record?
01:47:11jhMikeSthe config just defines a line in
01:48:09jhMikeS#define INPUT_SRC_CAPS (SRC_CAP_LINEIN)
01:48:43franklinSo does that mean it has a mic?
01:48:55jhMikeSno, cause it would have SRC_CAP_MIC too
01:49:10[Saint]Since when has line in == has mic?
01:49:35jhMikeSnot until today I guess :p
01:50:15jhMikeSfranklin: I guess you'll need a preamp
01:50:22franklinWhat's INPUT_SRC_CAPS then?
01:50:40[Saint]Use the source, Luke.
01:50:51jhMikeSall the ways it can take audio from the outside world
01:51:35jhMikeSMIC/LINEIN/SPDIF/FMRADIO so far are defined
01:52:13jhMikeSREC_SRC_CAPS are allowed to differ if recording isn't possible on one or more of them
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03:34:56franklinWould it be possible to turn Tonebox (Gerrit #909) into a codec? It uses the piezo to play tones from a file
03:34:58fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #909 at : 3Added piezo functions to plugin API, as well as some demo plugins by Franklin Wei
03:35:33[Saint]Possible, but not really workable in any realistic way.
03:35:54[Saint]You'd need to do a bunch of filtering to (try to) strip out the vocals.
03:36:16[Saint]And it would be rather computationally expensive, and sound like ass.
03:37:57saratogaif you want to add codecs, do TAK or WMA Lossless or something like that
03:38:26[Saint]...or lossyflac.
03:38:28*[Saint] runs
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03:38:56[Saint](side note: implement lossyflac and I'll stab you in the face)
03:38:58saratogawe already support that
03:39:04saratogaunless you mean as an encoder
03:39:33[Saint]I do. Sorry, that was rather unclear.
03:39:34alexbobphow about opus
03:39:54[Saint]Recording to opus would be very nice, indeed.
03:40:11[Saint]Not quite sure how it would work, though.
03:40:14alexbobpis opus playback already there?
03:40:26[Saint]FOr about 2 years now?
03:40:36[Saint]Perhaps more.
03:40:39[Saint]So - yes.
03:40:41[Saint]Yes it is.
03:41:04*[Saint] suspects he just blew alexbobp's mind
03:43:05saratoganot super hard to do opus encoding, but i'm not sure how useful it would be, most people will probably prefer something lossless or at least very compatible like mp3
03:43:24saratogai suggested lossless codecs because they are generally very easy to port
03:44:05[Saint]it'd be great for use as a dictaphone.
03:44:11[Saint]opus encoding, I mean.
03:44:47[Saint]spoken word can be VERY low bitrate in opus whilst still having very acceptable quality.
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03:50:54franklinSo can I access the plugin API from a codec?
03:51:44jhMikeScodec is a lib so not really
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03:57:29alexbobp[Saint]: sorry, no, was driving home from work :P
03:58:10[Saint]But, yeah, we've supported opus playback for about 2 years now I believe.
03:58:22franklinBut could I do a dirty hack and include piezo.h?
03:59:00[Saint]franklin: the real question is - why?
03:59:11franklinSo I can play tonebox from the WPS screen
03:59:12[Saint]This is tremendously unlikely to be accepted.
03:59:24franklinI know... then just for personal use
03:59:40[Saint]If its for personal use, do whatever you want.
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04:04:04franklinIt'd be revinventing the wheel to add a play/pause/forward/back interface to tonebox
04:04:17franklinso... no
04:04:29franklinjust keep it in a plugin like midi?
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04:13:25franklinHey can someone add me to the wiki users group? [Saint]? saratoga?
04:14:09[Saint]Full name?
04:14:44franklinFranklin Wei...
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04:18:55franklinsorry my internet went out
04:20:10franklinHow can I add a topic on the wiki?
04:20:34franklinoh, never mind
04:20:59[Saint]FranklinWei added to WikiUsersGroup
04:21:15franklinAnd can the page name have numerical chars?
04:21:28franklinNope... :)
04:22:06franklinActually yes... :)
04:23:14franklinneed to check "Enable non WikiWord"
04:23:29franklinWriting 2048 wiki page now...
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04:37:21franklinok, enjoy my masterpiece: :D
04:38:14[Saint]Interesting definition of "fun".
04:38:28franklinOr "amusing facts"
04:38:37franklin"interesting facts"?
04:43:22franklinHmm... why doesn't 2048 show as linked in
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04:55:02franklinWhy doesn't link to Plugin2048 like it should?
04:55:17franklinIt's just plain text while all the others are link
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06:13:26leftrightjhMikes : H140: Yesterdays Build: I flashed to RAM and ROM (set as boot), NO problems so far : Thank you for resolving the H140 flash issue.
06:15:03leftrighterr.... jhMikeS
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07:07:39alonivHello...I removed apple firmware from ipod using ipodcatcher. Now I only have rockbox. When plugging in ipod when locked (red button) I get rockbox but without my themes. Why is that?
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08:37:51gnutooI've a "Sandisk Sansa Fuze+",
08:38:04gnutooso I downloaded the update from Sansa
08:38:17gnutooand I gave it to the rockbox installer
08:38:31gnutooit patched it and tried to install the bootloader and so on
08:38:58gnutooand nothing happened on the bootloader side
08:39:05gnutooit has the 02.36.03 version
08:39:14gnutoo(that's what sansa about screen says)
08:39:28gnutoobut I gave rockbox installer that zip:
08:39:39gnutooso I guess I'd have to update the stock firmware manually somehow
08:39:46gnutooand then to install rockbox?
08:47:23gnutoodidn't work
08:47:26gnutoohow do I reboot?
08:47:34gnutoothe rockbox uttility says to reboot
08:47:39gnutoohow can I reboot?
08:48:18gnutooI'll format to make it close to stock
08:48:31gnutooand retry....again....
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08:56:40gnutoostill not installed
08:56:46gnutooshould I go more manual
08:56:58gnutoobecause it did update the sansa firmware to the new sansa stock one
08:57:21gnutooso I guess all I have to do is copy the patched bootloader to the mount point
08:57:30gnutooand then umount
08:57:34gnutooand remove the usb cable
08:57:36gnutooand wait
08:58:04gnutooI really hope that rockbox is still developped
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08:59:08gnutooor is the rockbox uttility not usable for the sansa fuze+?
08:59:22gnutooI've the device in MSC mode
08:59:49gnutooI've updated it with the file that is linked to in the wiki, for beeing patched
08:59:55gnutoothen I ran the rockbox uttility
09:00:02gnutooand I installed it with that uttility
09:00:11gnutoothen I removed the usb cable as requested
09:00:14gnutoothen it updated
09:00:19gnutooat least that's what it said
09:00:26gnutoothen it booted into stock
09:00:33gnutoothen I holded the power button
09:00:46gnutooit seemed to have powered off
09:01:00gnutoobut I've no idea how it worked behind the scenes so I can't guarantee it
09:01:16gnutoothen I pressed the power button again
09:01:24gnutooand it went back to stock!!!
09:03:17gnutooHow can I be sure the patched bootloader is there?
09:05:50gnutoowhere's the source download for mkimxboot?
09:07:36gnutooI guess I'll install another bootloader
09:07:45gnutooI don't need dual-boot right now anywa
09:07:54pamaurygnutoo: I don't have the time to stay, but when the Rockbox Utility copies the bootloader to the device, it may happen that the update doesn't trigger, in which case best is to try again. You never installed rockbox before ?
09:09:04gnutooah nice, it's ARM
09:09:19gnutoolooong time ago
09:09:26gnutooI had an archos something
09:09:42pamauryI mean, did the fuze+ had rockbox on it or not yet ?
09:09:52gnutooit never booted
09:10:04gnutoorbutil said it was installed
09:10:12gnutoobecause I asked it to install it
09:10:19gnutoobut rockbox never booted
09:11:00gnutooso there is a .rockbox/
09:11:02gnutooand so on
09:11:13gnutoomy question is rather:
09:11:22gnutoo1) how do I make sure the patched bootloader is in place
09:11:28pamauryfor rockbox to boot you need to install the bootloader, it should have done a "firmware upgrade" on reboot after running rbutil
09:11:36gnutoo2) what does that patched bootloader do
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09:11:48gnutooyes, it did a fimrware upgrade
09:11:58gnutooso I clicked on install in rbutil
09:12:05gnutoothen it somehow finished copying the files
09:12:11gnutooand it told me to remove the usb cable,
09:12:15pamaury1) on boot it will display a black screen with technical writings, instead of OF
09:12:15pamaury2) it boots rockbox (or the OF)
09:12:39gnutoo1) I've no black screen with technical writings, instead I've the same boot logos than before
09:12:55pamauryok, the update didn't work then, can you try it again ?
09:13:01gnutoo0) then it asked me to wait for the update and reboot
09:13:08gnutoo0) so that's what I did:
09:13:12gnutoo0) I removed the usb cable
09:13:21gnutoo0) It updated, at least that's what it said
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09:13:26gnutoo0) then it booted into stock
09:13:34gnutoo0) I pressed the power off button
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09:13:49gnutoo0) I pressed the power button to power it on
09:13:57gnutoo0) and it was back to stock
09:14:04gnutoowell, I tried at least 5 times
09:14:19gnutooso my only hope is probably some kind of manual way
09:14:32gnutoothe sansa firmware is up to date
09:14:39gnutooI just updated it not so long ago
09:14:43gnutoobecause rbutil was failing
09:14:54gnutooso i thought that it was probably because I had an old sansa fimrware
09:15:16gnutooso I've put the from into the mount point
09:15:35gnutooI umounted, removed the usb cable and it updated
09:15:41gnutoothat time I had a clear change
09:15:49gnutooit asked me for a reagion
09:15:52gnutooI've said Europe
09:15:59gnutoomaybe I should have chosen USA
09:16:01gnutooor maybe other
09:16:16gnutoothen I retried to install rockbox several times
09:16:19gnutoonone worked
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09:16:36gnutooso if I put to the mount point, will it update again?
09:17:03gnutooand is power off + power on a reboot?
09:18:04gnutooThere seem to be no stable version for my player
09:18:07gnutoomaybe it's related?
09:18:32gnutoolike rbutil says: b61553c, that looks like a git log −−online hash
09:20:23gnutooI'm trying again one more time, but I umounted before removing the USB cable
09:20:29gnutooI thought that rbutil was doing it
09:20:37gnutoo(I did sudo -E RockboxUtility)
09:20:47pamauryI'm sorry, I really have to leave. That's a shame because I'm the main dev of the port, so I'm really the one who can help, but keep asking, maybe someone help will help. Or else I might be online at 10/11pm tonight.
09:21:00gnutoo(somehow the GUI didn't start without sudo)
09:21:07gnutoook, one quick question
09:21:12pamauryMaybe sansa released a new version of the firmware
09:21:12gnutoois that channel crowded?
09:21:51gnutoolike you said "keep asking"
09:22:01gnutoodo I have some chance to get someone to respond?
09:22:08gnutooor should I try a mailing list instead?
09:22:36gnutoonow I've a black screen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
09:22:41gnutooumount did the trick somehow
09:22:58gnutooah now it boots rockbox
09:23:01pamaurythat's a bit early ;) during holidays not many people are around
09:23:03gnutoothanks a lot
09:23:03pamaurycool, good luck !
09:23:09gnutoonow it works totally
09:23:19gnutoonow let's try rockbox, after all theses years
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16:39:48ivanfExpected Delivery Day:Tuesday, August 12, 2014
16:39:58ivanfWaiting for the clip+
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16:48:59franklinWhy isn't 2048 a link on
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17:11:37franklin_Has anyone looked at Gerrit #893? It's a /very/ simple patch...
17:11:41fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #893 at : 3Added highscore highlight to xobox game by Franklin Wei
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17:12:53[Saint]You'll know someone has looked at it when it gets reviewed.
17:13:10franklin_It's a one-line change... how long could it take to review?
17:13:10[Saint]Constantly plugging your gerrit tasks here does little more than annoy.
17:13:41franklinheh.. well... :)
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17:14:35[Saint]Shit, I wish I knew it was that easy...
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17:19:12megal0maniac_uniSeems my client is lazy :/
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18:25:58fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3New build round started. Revision df99ef2, 253 builds, 30 clients.
18:27:08franklinsaratoga, :)
18:27:30franklinmaybe the backlog of patches needs to be cleaned up before the next release...
18:27:45saratogasomeone else needs to review plugins, I've never done anything with them
18:27:56[Saint]I love the way people keep talking about a release.
18:28:55franklinIf there is a next release... or we call dev builds a "release"
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18:43:27franklinStill all green :)
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20:07:48franklinI think Gerrit #808 is VERY useful... It makes disktidy actually recurse into directories
20:07:50fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #808 at : 3Fixed disktidy bug and added a couple of new features to disktidy. by Richard Burke
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20:27:53ZincAlloyyup, disktidy has been broken for way too long.. it's quite a useful plugin
20:28:50franklinIf you want it to get in master, ask saratoga
20:39:49franklinSo, will it be called 3.14 or 4.0?
20:40:50franklinProbably what?
20:41:21gevaertsYes, it will probably be called 3.14 or 4.0
20:42:25[Saint]Carried over from *-community:
20:42:36[Saint]Can people PLEASE stop bitching about gerrit reviews?
20:42:45franklinSorry... :)
20:42:45[Saint]People review what they know, when they can.
20:43:28franklinBTW, Einstein's birthday is march 14th... :P
20:43:46[Saint]If no one reviews your task, it doesn't mean you're getting ignored. It most likely means no one feels confident enough to review it, due to it not being their area of expertise, or a multitude of other reasons.
20:44:09franklinIt's not my task...
20:44:21franklinPointing it out as very useful...
20:44:35[Saint]Its interesting that you believe I'm talking about you directly.
20:44:39[Saint]Guilty conscious?
20:49:58[Saint]TheSeven: regarding release (not the I strongly believe it would happen any time soon anyway, regardless), I believe you're rather correct.
20:50:08[Saint]Now would not be an ideal time.
20:50:29[Saint]So soon after such an extensive change.
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21:00:21copperwhat change?
21:00:31franklinFAT change
21:00:43copperchange is FAT?
21:01:12franklinfilesystem driver
21:01:22franklinFile Access Table lol
21:01:34copperI just re-read the conversation in #rbc
21:01:57copperwell last time it wasn't a good time because of JdGordon's theme engine modification
21:02:03copperseems like it will never be the right time
21:04:07[Saint]Close, but, not quite.
21:04:16[Saint]It was actually worse than that.
21:04:41[Saint]It was a WIP submitted to gerrit that kicked that off...
21:04:50[Saint]That was a weird day.
21:06:36[Saint]Nothing actually hit the codebase, its not like we were in a freeze, and it still sparked a "Hey, could you not? 'Cos...(mystical) release." response.
21:07:25[Saint]Its not important.
21:07:32ivanfYay just got the cip+
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21:11:03ivanfHow do I know if I have clip+ version 1 or 2
21:11:41franklinIs it new?
21:11:55ivanfYes I just got it from Amazon
21:12:07gevaertsThe clip comes in v1 and v2. The clip+ doesn't
21:12:12[Saint]Its irrelevant. There's no such thing.
21:12:18ivanfDo I pick clip+ or clip v2
21:12:22franklinclip or clip+?
21:12:25franklinoh sorry
21:12:28franklindidn't read
21:12:46franklinThere's only one clip+
21:12:50ivanfOh okay
21:12:52ivanfThank you
21:12:57franklinThat 2048 /doesn't run on
21:13:29[Saint]Man that was an odd question: "Do I select my actual device, or, some completely different one?"
21:13:30ivanfSays mount point does not exist ..
21:13:48[Saint]That likely means you've not read the manual and it isn;t in the correct USB mode.
21:13:58ivanfAhh I see
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21:16:53ivanfbtw can I get the RB clip+ to play in my car via usb>
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21:39:41lleeloostill have the same problem: undefined reference to `find_first_set_bit'
21:39:54franklinPull a fresh copy?
21:40:00jhMikeSlleeloo: I think you'll have to use the builtin version
21:40:06franklinYou'll get the new 2048 plugin, too
21:40:30jhMikeSIt's not referenced in the core in certain builds which causes it to be discarded by the time it links other libs
21:40:43franklinBut the newest builds all work
21:41:05jhMikeSwhen I changed some stuff, I had exactly that problem
21:41:09franklintop row is all green
21:41:23lleelooneed !defined(__thumb__) for builtin version. in my case __thumb__ defined =(
21:41:24jhMikeSsome of the errors below were that
21:41:29franklin(except for the usual offenders)
21:42:40jhMikeSlleeloo: our version is better than GCC's though
21:43:11franklinBut it works!
21:43:12franklinNo error
21:43:18franklinFor me at least :)
21:43:51jhMikeSleeloo: if you made a really effient thumb version for that ASM, remove the __thumb__ exclusion
21:45:23jhMikeSunless it's not compatible with v4 or something you'll have to change the __thumb__ part of that statement to be more particular
21:46:29jhMikeSso, changing firmware/include/bitarray.h could bring it back into the core since that selects the builtin for ARM v5 or higher as it is
21:46:45lleelooi just little modify ffs.S look at this
21:49:39lleeloooh, now i understand what do you mean=) I will try to change firmware/include/bitarray.h
21:49:45jhMikeSyou might just want the built in version ...
21:51:04jhMikeS... && (!defined(__thumb__) || ARCH_PROFILE == arch_profile_m)
21:52:11lleeloodone. thank you for fast reply. now all OK
21:52:29jhMikeSI suspect if it's that simple __builtin_ctz would just inline a few instructions, making it more efficient anyway
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21:53:47jhMikeSwill GCC allow overriding the builtins?
21:58:25lleeloo<jhMikeS> i don't know
21:59:59jhMikeSI think we override the division routines hmm
22:03:48lleeloohm, why i can't use a buildin version of __builtin_ctz?
22:03:52jhMikeSthe gcc __builtin_ctz just ends up calling __clzsi2, which is rather shitty
22:04:16jhMikeSlleeloo: you can, which will probably inline a few instructions (which you can verify with objdump)
22:04:28jhMikeSI just suggested doing so
22:05:07jhMikeSchange to ... && (!defined(__thumb__) || ARCH_PROFILE == arch_profile_m) in system.h
22:05:42lleeloook, i will try...
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22:10:13lleeloowith (!defined(__thumb__) || ARCH_PROFILE == arch_profile_m) in system.h works fine
22:10:38lleeloothanks ones more
22:14:20franklinTheSeven, how do I add a new boot option to emCORE?
22:14:49TheSevenfranklin: by modifying the boot menu app. for testing I'd just use emCORE's USB debugging interface though
22:15:02*TheSeven suggests to move this discussion to #freemyipod
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