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| 10:57:04 | ParkerR | rasher, [Saint] the most recent rockbox build crashes after extracting assets |
| 10:57:11 | ParkerR | Android that is |
| 10:57:26 | ParkerR | And then crashes on each subsequent launch |
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| 11:05:03 | ParkerR | http://withg.org/parkerlreed/out.txt |
| 11:05:09 | ParkerR | Theres the logcat |
| 11:05:15 | ParkerR | I think I launched it about halfway down |
| 11:05:49 | PaulFertser | Hi there. I've just broken the LCD of my wife's player and now need a replacement. What would you folks recommend that is available in retail, works stable and has a reasonably big screen (i.e. not like sandisk sansa clip's)? |
| 11:06:29 | ParkerR | PaulFertser, Umm what device... that'd be agood start |
| 11:06:39 | ParkerR | Ohh replacement device |
| 11:06:45 | copper | PaulFertser: iPod Classic, SanDisk Fuze+ |
| 11:07:23 | PaulFertser | copper: classic is only second-hand, right? I'm considering Fuze+, thank you for the advice. |
| 11:07:31 | copper | no, why |
| 11:07:46 | copper | the iPod Classic hasn't been discontinued yet |
| 11:07:56 | copper | they're still selling them new, including on apple.com |
| 11:08:35 | PaulFertser | Hm... I'm not really sure I'd like to pay apple for anything but probably that's a reasonably good option. |
| 11:09:03 | copper | my review of the Fuze+ (with Rockbox): http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71807 |
| 11:09:17 | copper | some caveats listed there, that you should know |
| 11:09:51 | copper | read the whole page |
| 11:10:27 | copper | as for the Classic, I think it's great (with Rockbox) |
| 11:10:52 | * | ParkerR is partial to the Clip Zip |
| 11:11:00 | copper | just a bit slower when loading music for playback, because of the HDD |
| 11:11:23 | copper | and much heavier than the Fuze+ |
| 11:11:52 | copper | which may be a problem for a woman |
| 11:12:22 | copper | (like, if her purse is already full of stuff) |
| 11:12:53 | copper | (or if she likes to hold her DAP while walking) |
| 11:14:41 | copper | PaulFertser: what was the DAP that you broke? |
| 11:14:59 | PaulFertser | She's carrying a 10 litres backpack with here all the time :) |
| 11:18:14 | PaulFertser | (she had iriver e150 with vendor's firmware) |
| 11:18:34 | copper | cute |
| 11:19:14 | copper | well, the Fuze+ is about the same form factor |
| 11:20:12 | copper | exists in red http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-Sansa-Fuze-4GB-Radio/dp/B0042RUCXC/ |
| 11:20:17 | copper | and purple |
| 11:20:21 | PaulFertser | Hm, funny, Fuze+ is not available in retail in russia, so I'd had to wait for the international delivery. |
| 11:21:41 | PaulFertser | Oh my, ipod classic is expensive. |
| 11:21:42 | copper | well, I can't see how she could be disappointed if you buy her an iPod Classic :) |
| 11:21:46 | copper | indeed it is |
| 11:23:22 | PaulFertser | She'd also prefer to have a DAP that can be changed via a microUSB port with an EU-standard wall charger (D+ and D- shorted). |
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| 11:23:57 | PaulFertser | s/changed/charged/ |
| 11:24:06 | copper | Fuze+ then! |
| 11:25:39 | PaulFertser | Yep! Sandisk used to have an insane not-quite-like-apple's-but-similar special cable but luckily they got saner now. |
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| 11:33:02 | PaulFertser | Thanks a lot everybody! |
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| 11:43:29 | [Saint] | It's just a ridax cable. |
| 11:43:52 | [Saint] | For both iPod and the SanDisk variant you speak of. |
| 11:44:03 | [Saint] | But, drastically different pinouts. |
| 11:44:14 | copper | a what? |
| 11:44:16 | [Saint] | Each will kill the other device, etc. |
| 11:44:19 | [Saint] | Ridax. |
| 11:44:28 | [Saint] | Name of the standard connector. |
| 11:44:39 | copper | ah yes, I vaguely remember a discussion about this |
| 11:45:17 | PaulFertser | But the different pinouts make connectors unsuitable even if one is going to resolder them. |
| 11:46:07 | ParkerR | [Saint], did you get my message above? :) |
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| 16:19:10 | pamaury_ | does anyone have a Samsung M1 or knows a way to buy one second-hand ? |
| 16:24:06 | pamaury_ | lebellium: maybe you know ? |
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| 16:48:52 | lebellium | pamaury: It's one of the few that I don't own |
| 16:48:54 | lebellium | too expensive :) |
| 16:49:20 | lebellium | my contact at Samsung used to lend it to me when I asked |
| 16:49:27 | lebellium | but it was quite a long time ago now |
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| 16:49:56 | pamaury | I'm quite interested because it's tegra, but it's virtually impossible to find at a reasonable price |
| 16:50:17 | lebellium | yeah, there are only 2 Tegra 1 devices |
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| 16:50:21 | lebellium | Zune HD and Samsung M1 |
| 16:50:42 | pamaury | yeah, zune hd might be possible to find |
| 16:50:45 | pamaury | but M1... |
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| 16:51:40 | lebellium | I could ask my contact but I haven't talk to him for a while now. That would be quite "opportuniste" ;) |
| 16:51:45 | lebellium | talked* |
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| 16:54:05 | lebellium | pamaury: I wanted to try that http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64956 but never had the opportunity to do it unfortunately |
| 16:55:02 | pamaury | yeah could be fun |
| 16:56:19 | pamaury | well, if you have the opportunity to get one, tell me, although I'm not too optimistic |
| 16:56:43 | lebellium | I've seen a few on ebay.de |
| 16:56:47 | lebellium | but it's always too expensive |
| 16:56:57 | lebellium | I don't understand why so many people are interested it |
| 16:57:05 | lebellium | in it |
| 16:57:07 | lebellium | * |
| 16:58:26 | pamaury | yeah it's too expensive, I'm only interested because it's tegra |
| 16:58:49 | lebellium | Is something doable with tegra? It's not a close source? |
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| 20:00:08 | [Saint] | Do you support patience? |
| 20:00:12 | [Saint] | Fucker. |
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| 20:07:20 | ploco | hi [Saint], about the balance problem on Android. should I fix it by DSP or not? |
| 20:09:09 | [Saint] | Sorry I didn't respond earlier. Frankly, I don't care. Android is only one of many hosts where this runs. |
| 20:09:17 | [Saint] | Its not like its Android only. |
| 20:11:05 | [Saint] | My current work is merely a playground which I'm using to experiment in. |
| 20:11:24 | [Saint] | Nothing is final. I'm testing fail cases and ideas. |
| 20:11:37 | ploco | so every host have the same issue? sorry i have check the sdl build yet |
| 20:13:39 | [Saint] | Issue with what? |
| 20:14:03 | [Saint] | Issue with a WIP completely untested patch? ...maybe |
| 20:14:15 | [Saint] | Dunno. |
| 20:14:18 | ploco | the sound balance, never work on Android |
| 20:14:23 | [Saint] | No. |
| 20:15:16 | [Saint] | AFAIK android is the only place it doesn't work. |
| 20:15:27 | ploco | audiohw_set_volume(l, r); |
| 20:16:08 | ploco | I know this is the point. so gonna hook up a dsp from there. |
| 20:19:22 | RiD | [Saint] doesn't work in maemo either |
| 20:19:40 | RiD | but then maemo is for only one device, so... |
| 20:21:20 | gevaerts | Two :) |
| 20:21:26 | ploco | ok, maemo and android.. anymore? |
| 20:22:13 | RiD | gevaerts i think rockbox is only in maemo5 |
| 20:22:28 | RiD | oooh i see, N8xx |
| 20:22:52 | [Saint] | Easy to forget about. You're forgiven. ;) |
| 20:23:21 | RiD | hehe |
| 20:23:48 | [Saint] | gevaerts is one of the seven people in the universe that cared about maemo. |
| 20:24:06 | RiD | if n900 didn't have rockbox, i probably would have switched to another device already |
| 20:24:59 | [Saint] | It also doubles as a handy set of weights for your workout. |
| 20:25:08 | RiD | haha |
| 20:25:14 | [Saint] | Or a brick. Or a bludgeoning device. |
| 20:26:32 | RiD | or a rockbox powered audio player |
| 20:26:54 | [Saint] | Pfffft. |
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| 21:08:17 | pamaury | lebellium: something is definitely doable |
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| 21:18:07 | * | [Saint] giggles about worm percussion |
| 21:18:19 | franklin | saratoga, there's a bug in 2048: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,48475.msg229326.html :O |
| 21:18:28 | saratoga | i saw that thread |
| 21:19:08 | saratoga | ploco: adding a DSP based balance feature for devices that can't do it in hardware sounds reasonable |
| 21:19:12 | franklin | I don't get what [Saint] meant by "That solution makes zero sense, without a score, its useless, and it sounds like even if it weren't drawing over areas it shouldn't its still largely unplayable."... 2048 is perfectly playable just by color :) and without a score :) |
| 21:19:13 | [Saint] | Translation: my testing protocol sucks |
| 21:19:55 | [Saint] | If you dont get your final score its irrelevant. |
| 21:20:03 | franklin | You do when you lose/quit |
| 21:20:12 | franklin | (if you get a high score) |
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| 21:20:20 | franklin | Hmm... good point |
| 21:20:39 | franklin | (if you don't get a high score) |
| 21:21:05 | [Saint] | Honestly I'd just look at disabling it on this device, but that's my opinion. |
| 21:21:42 | [Saint] | 96x96 is too small to realistically do much of anything with. |
| 21:22:29 | franklin | it works with color :) |
| 21:22:57 | [Saint] | Well...that's me screwed. Do you offer colorblind sets? |
| 21:23:50 | saratoga | add a colorblind mode to the whole OS :) |
| 21:23:55 | franklin | :) |
| 21:24:09 | franklin | Exactly. |
| 21:25:00 | [Saint] | That's actually quite doable. |
| 21:25:12 | [Saint] | A fair bit of work...but, doable. |
| 21:25:23 | franklin | To the LCD driver? |
| 21:25:34 | franklin | Actually, that's a great idea saratoga :P |
| 21:26:16 | [Saint] | The easiest option is just flipping everything to greyscale. |
| 21:26:29 | franklin | Yeah, that's what I was thinking |
| 21:26:45 | franklin | So just find the average of the RGB values, and draw that |
| 21:26:52 | saratoga | although i don't know how practical that is |
| 21:27:19 | saratoga | wouldn't the average of RGB be worse? that basically reduces the contrast by half for someone with dichromatic vision |
| 21:27:30 | franklin | Then turn it off :) |
| 21:27:56 | saratoga | probably you want to look to see if R and G are much different, and if so, map that onto a new 2 color channel space spanned by RG and B |
| 21:28:09 | franklin | [Saint], also I need a version of the game for the blind :) |
| 21:28:40 | [Saint] | ...can we voice plugins? |
| 21:28:46 | [Saint] | Iiuc....no? |
| 21:29:13 | franklin | lol a joke :) |
| 21:29:24 | [Saint] | Tiny speex files of individual digits would be doable I guess |
| 21:29:24 | ploco | saratoga: almost finished. :) testing.. |
| 21:29:31 | * | franklin thinks [Saint] takes things too seriously sometimes |
| 21:30:01 | franklin | So you would say "Score %d" "Grid space 1: %d" and so on? |
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| 21:30:07 | [Saint] | Says the guy about the community that implemented 1d tetris |
| 21:30:12 | [Saint] | ;) |
| 21:30:25 | [Saint] | ...we do things right! |
| 21:30:36 | franklin | 1dt*tris is just useless... |
| 21:31:01 | [Saint] | That's a feature. |
| 21:31:06 | franklin | haha |
| 21:31:38 | [Saint] | If it were useful, I'd consider lodging a bug against it. |
| 21:32:20 | * | franklin laughs again :) |
| 21:33:18 | [Saint] | saratoga: I was thinking mixing down to say, a dozen shades of grey. |
| 21:33:36 | [Saint] | (Not fifty...) |
| 21:33:58 | [Saint] | That's bdsm.rock |
| 21:34:10 | franklin | And regarding the timer bug on ipod6g, timer D is not present on the SOC, either, TheSeven |
| 21:34:14 | saratoga | [Saint]: wouldn't that be universally worse ? |
| 21:34:32 | TheSeven | franklin: but you said the register values would be sticking? |
| 21:34:35 | [Saint] | Not for me. Others, not sure. |
| 21:34:39 | saratoga | RG color blindess for instance just means you can't tell the difference between R and G, but you still see both wavelengths |
| 21:34:40 | franklin | All regs are zero directly after writing a nonzero value to TD* |
| 21:34:48 | franklin | But timer F works |
| 21:35:04 | [Saint] | I find greyscale to be a lot easier to pick than most colorblind specific schemas. |
| 21:35:04 | saratoga | essentially, your eye combines R and G, so what does combining R, G, B in software even accomplish other than needlessly removing B? |
| 21:35:13 | TheSeven | and isn't used by anythingelse? |
| 21:35:13 | franklin | TheSeven, I forget now... |
| 21:35:30 | saratoga | if something is designed to be greyscale that is different than just taking a color object and showing intensity though |
| 21:35:32 | franklin | doesn't look like it, but doom doesn't work |
| 21:35:45 | [Saint] | Granted. |
| 21:35:55 | saratoga | think Green text on a red background, its the same in grayscale and color to someone who is missing a cone type |
| 21:36:15 | saratoga | whereas blue text on a green background is much better in color than in greyscale |
| 21:36:42 | franklin | Timer F regs stick, but doom still hangs... |
| 21:37:12 | TheSeven | usec was timer E, right? |
| 21:37:17 | franklin | yes |
| 21:37:24 | franklin | And timer D doesn't exist :) |
| 21:37:24 | TheSeven | so if you use timer F, does its IRQ handler run? |
| 21:37:40 | franklin | haven't checked yet, and I need to run for a second... brb |
| 21:40:26 | franklin | TheSeven, and no |
| 21:41:44 | TheSeven | then check whether the run condition for it (in the demux function in system-s5l8702.c) is true half a second or so after you start it |
| 21:42:43 | franklin | INT_TIMER? |
| 21:42:59 | TheSeven | yes, that one should be calling INT_TIMERF under a certain condition |
| 21:43:04 | TheSeven | check if that condition is becoming true |
| 21:43:26 | TheSeven | (or rather dump the register value that this condition is based on, to see *why* it isn't true, i.e. which bit is missing) |
| 21:43:34 | user890104 | saratoga, franklin, [Saint]: i'm R/G colorblind, so i'll be happy to test a colorblind mode of 2048 :) |
| 21:44:18 | [Saint] | Tritonomaly checking in. |
| 21:44:39 | franklin | user890104, we were considering adding it to all of Rockbox, also :) |
| 21:44:54 | * | [Saint] shakes a fist at his shorty chromosomes |
| 21:45:01 | franklin | But how should I add a setting? A menu with "Colorblind mode"? |
| 21:45:03 | [Saint] | *shitty |
| 21:45:09 | [Saint] | ...and autocomplete |
| 21:45:34 | franklin | haha |
| 21:45:47 | [Saint] | There's several ways to do it. |
| 21:46:11 | [Saint] | 1: shift to accommodate for specific deficiency |
| 21:46:20 | franklin | TheSeven, why .5 seconds? |
| 21:46:46 | [Saint] | (Tritonomoly, dueteuonomy, etc) |
| 21:46:58 | lleeloo | I try to play an mp3 on my cortex-m4 port. Player screen show for about 1 second and then exit to file browser... What wrong with me=) ? |
| 21:47:02 | [Saint] | 2: say "ahhh fuck it" and go greyscale. |
| 21:47:17 | franklin | eh no |
| 21:47:19 | TheSeven | franklin: anything long enough to make sure that the interrupt should actually have fired during that timeframe |
| 21:47:28 | franklin | So 10 seconds is fine? |
| 21:47:29 | user890104 | franklin: can you make the board take all of the screen, and the score to show for 1-2 seconds after a move (over the board), then disappear? |
| 21:47:43 | franklin | Hmm that's an interesting idea |
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| 21:48:01 | franklin | But the disappearing part would require threads or similar |
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| 21:48:14 | franklin | But it is totally possible to draw over the board :) |
| 21:48:19 | TheSeven | franklin: 10 seconds should be fine, but takes ages to test :P |
| 21:48:35 | franklin | TheSeven, 4096 is the value of TFCON 10 secs after |
| 21:48:55 | TheSeven | so that's 0x01000 |
| 21:49:02 | franklin | yep :) |
| 21:49:06 | TheSeven | what did you write to it? |
| 21:49:18 | franklin | Metronome plugin |
| 21:49:32 | TheSeven | also what's TFCNT at that time? |
| 21:49:44 | franklin | gotta wait 10 secs :) |
| 21:49:59 | franklin | 19754 |
| 21:50:19 | TheSeven | ok, and what did you write to TFCON during timer setup? |
| 21:51:40 | franklin | no idea... 1<<12 | cs<<8 | 0<<4 |
| 21:51:40 | franklin | So not 4096 |
| 21:51:40 | TheSeven | well if cs==0 then that's 4096 |
| 21:51:50 | TheSeven | anyway, the IRQ enable is set, but not the IRQ pending flag |
| 21:51:58 | franklin | I was thinking binary... :) |
| 21:52:10 | franklin | So... |
| 21:52:27 | TheSeven | and you're absolutely sure that TIMERF is not being called? |
| 21:52:35 | TheSeven | INT_TIMERF I mean |
| 21:52:38 | franklin | I have a panicf in it |
| 21:52:39 | franklin | So no |
| 21:52:41 | TheSeven | hm |
| 21:53:02 | franklin | A panicf right after TFCON=TFCON |
| 21:53:07 | franklin | But before the callback |
| 21:54:09 | TheSeven | ok, dump the whole timer setup, i.e. everything that's written to regs during configuration |
| 21:54:37 | TheSeven | and log the TFCNT values multiple times |
| 21:54:51 | TheSeven | to see if that thing actually wraps around at the point where it should |
| 21:56:35 | franklin | Wait... I'm putting the dump of TFCNT at the end of timer_setup, before timer_start... |
| 21:56:44 | franklin | Should I put it in timer_start? |
| 21:57:58 | franklin | (but I'm still 100% SURE that INT_TIMERF is not being called) |
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| 21:58:27 | TheSeven | does timer_setup start the timer? |
| 21:58:42 | TheSeven | if not, you will of course have to watch things after actually starting it |
| 21:58:55 | franklin | It is supposed to |
| 21:59:15 | franklin | Wait... weird now TFCON is 4864 |
| 21:59:27 | franklin | (after adding in 1.5 seconds sleep) |
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| 22:00:36 | TheSeven | dumping these things as hex would be much easier to read |
| 22:00:43 | TheSeven | so this time, for some reason, cs==3? |
| 22:01:51 | franklin | What's so hard about using a hex<->decimal calculator? :) |
| 22:02:09 | franklin | TFPRE is 0 |
| 22:02:18 | franklin | TFDATA0 is 24107 |
| 22:02:44 | franklin | But TFCNT is 8486 now... |
| 22:03:00 | franklin | But I haven't started the timer yet |
| 22:03:23 | franklin | So just uninitialzed data? |
| 22:04:27 | TheSeven | franklin: it's pointlessly having to copy&paste those numbers instead of just being able to see what it is directly in the IRC window |
| 22:05:00 | TheSeven | dump TFCNT multiple times to check if it's changing |
| 22:05:34 | franklin | Where? |
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| 22:05:56 | TheSeven | generally, whenever you're dumping it |
| 22:06:46 | franklin | ok |
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| 22:09:59 | franklin | TheSeven, TD_ENABLE is already written to TFCMD before returning from timer_set... |
| 22:10:11 | franklin | So never mind about calling timer_start |
| 22:10:20 | franklin | TFCNT is counting, though |
| 22:10:32 | franklin | It is zero until writing TD_ENABLE |
| 22:10:54 | franklin | (and then goes to 4111 after writing TD_ENABLE and sleeping 10 secs) |
| 22:11:10 | franklin | Man, I just spam up the channel :) |
| 22:11:20 | franklin | </rant> |
| 22:11:51 | TheSeven | now disable IRQs, wait at least one revolution of that timer (using udelay or something, which doesn't rely on kernel ticks), then capture TFCON, re-enable IRQs, and log the captured value |
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| 22:13:37 | franklin | what's the function/pseudo-op for that? |
| 22:13:45 | franklin | cli like on x86? |
| 22:14:04 | TheSeven | there's some function, but no idea what it's called exactly |
| 22:14:14 | TheSeven | disable_irqs_save() or something like that |
| 22:14:38 | franklin | where's it declared? |
| 22:14:50 | TheSeven | probably in some assembly file |
| 22:15:24 | TheSeven | I guess a quick grep -R '_save\(' will revela it |
| 22:15:28 | TheSeven | reveal* |
| 22:15:43 | OiD | Hello everybody |
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| 22:17:26 | franklin | yo OiD |
| 22:17:32 | franklin | :) |
| 22:17:52 | franklin | Ah not in s5l8702, but in target/arm |
| 22:18:28 | OiD | Hi franklin :) |
| 22:19:48 | franklin | TheSeven, how long is "one revolution of the timer"? |
| 22:20:33 | TheSeven | depends on how the plugin configures it |
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| 22:20:54 | TheSeven | wait at least for one IRQ/callback interval |
| 22:21:05 | OiD | I'm looking for some help with a Phillips HDD1420. I'm trying to modify how it handles usb charging in rockbox but I can't find any info relating the gpio registers and the physical pinout. |
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| 22:23:32 | OiD | Any pointers to where to find any pinouts for the portalplayer 5022 would be a great help! |
| 22:24:18 | pamaury | OiD: the pp5022 is completely undocumented |
| 22:24:30 | pamaury | all information was gathered by reverse engineering |
| 22:24:39 | pamaury | what do you want to modify ? |
| 22:26:02 | OiD | Hi pamaury. I want to change a pin status to take control over the charging method, external charger or usb charger. |
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| 22:26:57 | OiD | In the original firmware it automatically switches to usb charging with the usb cable, in rockbox it is set to charge from the external charger. |
| 22:27:35 | pamaury | I see, first sorry for my ignorance about this port, is HDD1420 supported by the HDD16x0 port ? |
| 22:28:39 | OiD | Yes, it is a different capacity model, 4GB instead of 6GB. I works very well except that I need to boot the oficial firmware for charging via usb |
| 22:30:21 | pamaury | ok give me a second to have a look at the source first |
| 22:30:33 | franklin | TheSeven, using timer F also screws up the piezo... weird. all the beeps are the same frequency |
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| 22:30:58 | franklin | That said, I have some work that needs to be completed *today*... See you all when tomorrow/when it's done |
| 22:31:03 | TheSeven | this suggests that you're in fact writing to timerA somewhere |
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| 22:31:26 | pamaury | ok so charging is done entirely in hardware, but maybe one needs to switch some pin indeed |
| 22:32:49 | OiD | Yes, it is a simple pin toggle (PSEL1, F2 XM2_MA21) and I have no idea what gpio it is. |
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| 22:33:53 | pamaury | where did you get this information from ? |
| 22:35:10 | OiD | The BQ24032 charge IC datasheet and following the schematic for the HDD1630 |
| 22:35:23 | pamaury | oh, you have the schematic ? |
| 22:36:00 | pamaury | oh it's in the service manual |
| 22:36:01 | pamaury | neat |
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| 22:36:09 | OiD | Yes, it is very handy! |
| 22:36:11 | pamaury | let me have a look |
| 22:37:46 | OiD | I'm having some doubts about it being ISET2 on the charge IC (B16 CD3_BCLK) but I have the same problem of not knowing what pin it is |
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| 22:41:27 | pamaury | PSEL should be set to LOW to allow the IC to select USB if available |
| 22:41:35 | pamaury | then ISET2 select maximum current |
| 22:49:58 | pamaury | that's weird, PSEL1 is marked as input of the SoC, PSEL is output, there must be something making the link between those |
| 22:50:51 | TheSeven | likely some level shifter? |
| 22:51:29 | pamaury | still strange, it cannot be the input of two chips at the same time |
| 22:51:33 | OiD | Thee is a small resistor network but maybe I need to set ISET2. I'm looking at it again and maybe psel is an input and the soc sets the current. psel might be hardware controlled |
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| 22:53:40 | pamaury | ISET2 selects between 100mA and 500mA so it should charge it any case |
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| 22:54:32 | TheSeven | not if it consumes more than 100mA by itself |
| 22:54:52 | pamaury | yeah of course... |
| 22:55:30 | TheSeven | which could be seen as "not charging at all" by the end user |
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| 22:58:02 | pamaury | so yeah we can influence "Current_set/ISET2" and PSEL1 |
| 22:59:41 | pamaury | however there still a major annoyance: PSEL1 is on XM2_MA21 which I have no idea which pin it is, same for current select |
| 22:59:54 | pamaury | so the only reasonable way is to disassemble the firmware |
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| 23:01:38 | OiD | Sounds interesting! |
| 23:02:31 | pamaury | would be much faster to get the disassembly done by the one who did the port initially, if he still has it |
| 23:02:53 | OiD | Would be much faster yes |
| 23:03:56 | pamaury | hum, it's Mark Arigo (lowlight) apparently, he has not been around for some time |
| 23:04:37 | pamaury | but he still answers emails, I will ask him |
| 23:05:04 | pamaury | but he told me he had a drive failure and lost many disassemblies |
| 23:06:27 | pamaury | I can have a quick look at the firmware though |
| 23:08:10 | OiD | Thanks that would be a great help, but if it's a hassle then i might give it a try later |
| 23:09:07 | pamaury | actually I have been doing some work on PP61xx chip lately which is quite close, so I'm probably the one who knows the most about Portal Player SoC now |
| 23:10:05 | pamaury | do we have a firmware patcher for these player ? how is the bootloader image produced ? |
| 23:13:11 | OiD | Sorry I've only started diggin into rockbox today. The firmware is just a file on the disk drive and the player loads it. |
| 23:14:12 | pamaury | yeah the FWImage.ebn, but I don't know which format is uses |
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| 23:14:36 | pamaury | it starts with PPOS, I don't remember what it is, looks unencrypted |
| 23:17:47 | pamaury | ok that's just a mi4 file apparently |
| 23:18:22 | OiD | "The FileFormatMI4 seems to be used for non-iPod PortalPlayer devices." |
| 23:20:02 | pamaury | but mi4code doesn't know the key, that's embarassing |
| 23:25:51 | OiD | Is there any known traces left of Mark's dissasembly on the internet? |
| 23:26:56 | pamaury | probably not |
| 23:27:09 | pamaury | actually I'm not sure he did all the work |
| 23:27:51 | pamaury | some IRC logs suggest it's markun |
| 23:28:13 | pamaury | markun: here ? |
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| 23:34:08 | pamaury | found out, the key is in firmware/target/arm/pp/mi4-loader.c |
| 23:37:56 | pamaury | firmware decrypted |
| 23:40:58 | OiD | I'm still trying to find out where to start decrypting... |
| 23:42:33 | pamaury | you need mi4code to decrypt it |
| 23:42:50 | pamaury | http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4code.html |
| 23:42:56 | pamaury | but you need to modify it to add a key |
| 23:43:18 | pamaury | and first of all, you need to download FWImage.ebn or extract from a firmware upgrade |
| 23:45:03 | pamaury | this is the patch to apply: http://pastebin.com/X1aN4JSN |
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| 23:54:55 | OiD | I'm stuck compiling the mi4code. DSA dependency... I have the FWImage.ebn. Thanks for the help :) |
| 23:56:02 | pamaury | which OS do you use ? |
| 23:56:36 | pamaury | the page says you need to compile using "gcc -o mi4code mi4code.c -lgcrypt" but on my system I don't even need the -lgcryp |
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| 23:57:53 | OiD | Im on windows with an ubuntu vm |
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