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00:17:26franklinTheSeven, it does /not/ work with timer A :)
00:17:48franklinIt makes a buzzing/beeping sound, but INT_TIMERA is never called
00:18:10TheSevenso compare with the timerB code, that does definiely work, or rockbox wouldn't be running at all
00:18:34franklinah ok
00:19:46franklinhmm, maybe we need VIC0INTENABLE=1<<IRQ_TIMER?
00:20:42franklinor maybe setting 1<<6
00:22:36TheSevenVIC0INTENABLE=1<<IRQ_TIMER should be done by the tick setup code
00:22:45TheSevenand what's 1<<6 supposed to be?
00:23:19franklin"unknown bit external 12MHz clock(?)"
00:23:27TheSevenin which reg=
00:23:41franklin(I'm trying timer H)
00:25:05franklinhmm.. still doesn't work
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01:00:53[Saint_]git stash && git pull −−rebase && git stash pop
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01:05:10franklinwhat went wrong?
01:06:48[Saint]nothing. I just had the wrong screen session.
01:08:33franklinI do that all the time... why is the log spammed with "ls"'s? :)
01:18:26[Saint]jhMikeS: (logs) - full logcat of Rockbox crash on startup:
01:19:11[Saint](the log is trimmed so that it begins with application start and ends with the "shit fucked up, yo" confirmation box)
01:26:19[Saint]jhMikeS: (logs) "<jhMikeS> [Saint]: what the hell is real android hardware?" - unsurprisingly, ...real Android hardware. Like, an actual Android handset.
01:26:28[Saint]It doesn't fail in simulation.
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01:56:31OiDHi, can someone tell me what is the first file/function rockbox loads? I need to set a bit as soon as possible on boot
01:57:40franklinthe *first*?
01:57:47franklinprobably in the firmware tree somewhere
01:58:09franklinhow early do you need?
01:58:18franklinlike first instruction executed?
02:00:57saratogaOiD: if you can wait until after the bootloader runs, then main() function is called first
02:01:12saratogaotherwise, see the bootloader
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02:09:21saratogado we add translators to the credits file?
02:11:27saratogaapparently we do
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02:12:26OiDWhere can I find the firmware tree? ASAP, it's to enable high speed USB charging on a Philips HDD1430. Ideally I'd like to set it in the OF but I'll see if it's good enough when rockbox boots
02:13:22saratogathe firmware directory, however, the main function isn't in that folder
02:13:45saratogaif you want o change how charging works, I'd suggest the power management driver for your device
02:14:09OiDI have tried in main.c, but it boots the display before my code. Ideally I'd like it to set it 1st thing on power on
02:14:12saratogaalthough if you need to unconditionally set something, i suppose that could be done during the general hardware init
02:14:23saratogathat would be the bootloader than
02:14:35saratogathe splash screen you see on power up is the bootloader, not rockbox
02:15:00OiDIdeally it would be the best place in the power management, but if the battery is empty i't wont boot and won't charge.
02:15:05OiDOh, I see
02:15:31OiDAnd how shoudl I go about editing the bootloader?
02:15:40saratogamost likely rockbox simpy shuts down if the battery is too low
02:15:51saratogaalthough if you are externally powered that may not be necessary
02:16:17saratogamake you changes, compile a new bootloader and then flash it to your player
02:18:16franklinsaratoga, would you mind reviewing a patch for 2048? not done yet, but soon
02:18:25franklin(soon as in today)
02:18:30saratogasure, i'll check later
02:18:38franklinok thanks
02:19:11franklinI'm adding clip+ support just because gevaerts said I was too lazy to do so :)
02:19:16franklin:P gevaerts
02:19:18saratogano problem
02:19:23saratogaso long as it compiles i'm sure its fine
02:19:50franklinand refactoring some of the code
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02:21:14OiDCould you tell me which files are the bootloader? Do I have to decrypt the firmware or is there a C like file?
02:21:32saratogaOiD: see the bootloader folder in our source
02:22:03franklinUse the source, Luke
02:22:05saratogathere should be one file there for your target, although it will likely call other files in the firmware folder (e.g. the display driver)
02:26:20franklinIn the firmware tree, the code will be under firmware/target/CPU/TARGET
02:31:49franklinsaratoga, I just love grouping unrelated stuff into one commit, dont I? :)
02:32:43franklinTBH, I /would/ have done this: "Added 2048 game, fixed chip8 plugin and rfk plugin" :)
02:38:47[Saint]JdGordon_: what is the expected syntax for using a percentile for skin element position is?
02:39:08[Saint]How does one tell the parser its a percentile and not a relative position?
02:39:23JdGordon_[Saint]: ask ploco :) I think you just use <number>%
02:39:46franklin[Saint], an ETA on when the theme language will be Turing complete? :)
02:40:21[Saint]Can I get an estimation on when you'll stop asking fucking stupid questions?
02:40:24franklinI guess someone might implement an HTML/JS/CSS parser... :)
02:43:19franklinit will happen some day... :)
02:45:13OiDWhen I make the rockbox firmware does that include the bootloader? Or is it a separte make proces?
02:45:26franklinFor what target?
02:45:48franklinFor some (iPod classic), the bootloader is separate
02:46:03OiDPhilips HDD1630
02:46:09franklinno idea
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02:49:16JdGordon_jhMikeS: hey, I tried the patch and no change
02:49:30JdGordon_and no, it isnt auoplaying music on start
02:50:40saratogaOiD: run configure, select your target and choose bootloader instead of rockbox
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03:05:02jhMikeSJdGordon_: any message displayed that gives any hint?
03:06:20JdGordon_jhMikeS: just crashes without much info
03:06:33JdGordon_I'm not sure how to hook up gdb to android :/
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03:21:12franklinI have an idea: a PDF reader?
03:22:36saratogaprobably useless given the screen resolution
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03:25:14franklinOn a 320x240 screen I can see some use for it
03:26:04franklinBut definitely not on a clip zip :)
03:26:48JdGordon_[Saint]: your overflow menu thing is lvely!
03:26:57franklinIf I could read the rockbox manual on rockbox, that would be awesome...
03:28:08OiDThanks saratoga!
03:29:25OiDNow I get 500mA charging as sson as the bootloader starts. I'll test to see if it will provide power in time to boot when the battery is at 0%
03:30:30franklinOiD, does it need to be /that/ early? I mean, can't you wait until RB is loaded?
03:34:21OiDThe Philips HDD1420/1630 has an external 1Amp AC charger or 100/500mAmp USB charger. I do not have the AC charger. The HDD1420 expects the AC charger and will not set the USB charger until it boots into the OF, if the battery is dead the player will not let me boot either rockbox or the OF.
03:35:27franklinah so it does matter :)
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03:39:12OiDWell, the 100mA charge mode means I have to wait a long time to get enough charge into the battery to boot the OF and charge at 500mA. I'm still stuck in 100mA charge but I will have to wait a lot less time to get enough charge to set the 500mA mode in RB. Now it takes 2 seconds to set the charge mode, before booting into the OF took around 15 seconds
03:39:39OiDI'll test some more tomorow and see if it can be improved. But now, I must sleep!
03:39:42OiDGnight all!
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04:15:07saratogai think if the device shuts down in rockbox due to low battery while running off a charger, that is a bug that needs to be fixed in rockbox
04:15:20saratogaif it shuts down in the built in ROM, changing it in rockbox won't do very much
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04:29:06drafti have iPod Nano 4G and it seems Rockbox doesn't support it at the moment. i tried to check if emCORE supports it (, but it doesn
04:29:13draftdoesn't seem to support it officially
04:29:55draftthere's a picture of emCORE running on 4G Nano.. so is there any progress foreseeable in the near future or should i swap this to other model?
04:31:11draftSVN of emCORE also seems to have some development on 4G...
04:31:32draft"Nano 4G: Finally fix a LCD driver bug, thanks to TheSeven" "/emcore/trunk/target/ipodnano4g/lcd.c"
04:32:24draftso if anyone here has Rockbox running on 4G Nano could you please help me out? i'm also willing to betatest software which is not stable.
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04:37:07draftRockbox currently doesn't run on the 4th generation iPod nano and no code to do so has been written.
04:37:10draftPort Status
04:37:13draftThird party code runs on the 4G, and LCD/USB drivers have been developed by the linux4nano project but not added to rockbox
04:37:17drafti guess that answers my question...
04:40:08jhMikeSsomeone just has to do it
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05:55:32TheGuyWhoIsTheGuHi, I recently had an iPod 5.5g but I sold it because it was slow when using the EQ. I would like to know which device is better.
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05:59:51TheGuyWhoIsTheGuNo one :(
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06:26:22plocoJdGordon: [Saint] try cherry-pick my g#894 into latest source, I just did the test. no crash and boots.
06:26:26fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #894 at : 3RaaA: Android work around the Kitkat ART crashes by Chiwen Chang
06:28:16plocoso the reason why it crash could be either threading backend or one of those missing global reference
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12:07:47copperTheGuyWhoIsTheGu: iPod Classic
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12:30:19TheGuyWhoIsTheGuThe iPod Classic handles EQ settings the best? Even if I use every band?
12:33:22copperhold on
12:35:02coppermeh, I can't tell which DAP is faster
12:35:48copperbut it's a parametric EQ, you're supposed to use fewer bands than with a normal EQ
12:36:28TheGuyWhoIsTheGuWell ok
12:37:26copperthe reason you need a lot of bands with a regular EQ, is because the width of each band is fixed
12:37:49copperbut with a parametric EQ, you can make each band the width you want
12:39:24coppernot just the width, but the position (frequency) too
12:41:06TheGuyWhoIsTheGuAhh ok then I'll have to learn more about this and is there a way to create EQ settings on a computer and put them in Rockbox?
12:41:55copperyou could use the simulator">">
12:43:35TheGuyWhoIsTheGuOh yeah you're right, does it work on Ubuntu and to be clear, iPod Classic is the fastest device?
12:44:47copperthat's a windows build
12:44:54copperyou can make your own linux build
12:45:01copperor you can run the Windows build with Wine
12:45:20copperand I can't tell you with certainty if the iPod Classic actually has beefier hardware
12:45:46coppersome rockbox devs should know, maybe hang around for a while
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12:46:37TheGuyWhoIsTheGuOk thanks for your help :) I'll wait and see if I have a answer.
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17:57:52franklinI can compile with USB_ENABLE_HID, but it doesn' work
17:59:40franklin(not on windows at least)
18:04:31*franklin is leaving, but answer anyways... I read the logs :)
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20:40:56fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #916 at : 3Fuzeplus: fixed brightness settings: previously there were 81 settings for only 28... by Avi Eisenberg
20:43:21ikeboyIs something wrong?
20:44:37copperno, I just think it's funny there are somehow 53 redundant values
20:45:10copperthe Fuze+ has two LCD variants though, IIRC
20:45:16copperI wonder if that's the case for both?
20:45:20ikeboybasically, 1=2=3,4=5=6, etc
20:46:06ikeboyI have both, and both have the same problem
20:46:11copperah, cool
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20:53:13saratogalooks good to me, but that is pamaury's port, so double check with him
20:57:34pamauryif you checked on both variants that's fine for me
20:58:09pamauryah he left
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22:36:13franklin_saratoga: g#917
22:36:15fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #917 at : 32048: service pack 1 :) by Franklin Wei
22:37:17saratogafranklin_: is it ready to go?
22:37:23franklin_I hope so :)
22:37:29saratogai'll push
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22:39:41franklinHaven't tested *this* version on clip+, but I think it will work :)
22:42:14bertrikwow, we still owe a lot of our build power to roolku
22:42:50franklinIt takes me about 10 minutes for one build, it takes the farm 5 minutes for 30+ builds :)
22:43:28bertrikfranklin: ccache helps a lot, have you tried that?
22:43:44franklinwith ccache, about 3 mins
22:44:02franklinwith a fresh ccache, about 10 mins
22:44:35bertrikBTW, I did a cleanup of ccache files recently, takes forever on my SSD
22:44:49fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3Build round completed after 414 seconds.
22:45:50franklinyay all green :)
22:47:06franklinhmm... clip+ isn't building 2048
22:47:48franklinah... forgot to commit SOURCES
22:49:26franklinok, g#918
22:49:28fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #918 at : 3Added Clip/+ to 2048 targets by Franklin Wei
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22:54:51franklinsaratoga: g#918
22:54:53fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #918 at : 3Added Clip/+ to 2048 targets by Franklin Wei
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23:07:46bertrikargh, I think my buildserver is acting up again
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