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#rockbox log for 2014-08-29

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00:43:44[Franklin]fs#7136
00:43:46fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7136 3Turn based strategy Game (DOS clone) (patches, closed)
00:52:04*[Franklin] is considering letting food spoil in superdom
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01:01:27[Saint]JdGordon: WPS and main menu. WPS and context menu. WPS and playlist viewer. WPS and quickscreen.
01:01:33[Saint]...any screens, really.
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01:32:55[Franklin]Has anyone else noticed that some menus overwrite parts of the theme?
01:33:08[Franklin]Not MENUITEM_STRINGLIST menus, but set_int menus
01:38:31[Saint]That simply points to an incorrectly written theme.
01:39:06[Franklin]arc-en-ciel
01:39:29[Franklin]Bug (if any), seems to be in option_screen()
01:39:47[Franklin]apps/gui/option_select.c
01:41:11[Franklin][Saint]: if it's a bad theme, how does do_menu work, but not set_int?
01:41:56[Saint]If the theme is using ui viewport correctly, there shouldn't even be the opportunity for the lists to draw over any theme assets.
01:42:25[Franklin]OK then... I'll try a different theme
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01:43:05[Franklin]Same thing happens with Redux theme
01:43:28[Franklin]do_menu menus are in the right viewport, but set_bool/set_int menus overwrite
01:43:52[Saint]The screenshots for the theme show me that the author is doing some absolutely batshit crazy stuff.
01:43:58[Saint]So, I don't particularly care.
01:44:04[Saint]Abuse the theme engine, expect issue.
01:44:06[Franklin]ok, I'll try another
01:44:28[Franklin]happens with naranjada, too
01:44:54[Saint]What is the issue you're actually seeing?
01:45:03[Franklin]I'll get a screenshot
01:45:07[Franklin]hang on...
01:45:51[Saint]turns out I misinterpreted the screenshots on the theme site, but there is some questionable coding in the theme.
01:49:30[Franklin]ok, http://fwei.tk/shot.png
01:50:04[Saint]yay...the slowest webserver in the world.
01:50:28[Saint]hasn't even responded to the query yet.
01:50:30[Saint]uuugh.
01:50:37[Saint]what was wrong with imgur?
01:50:56[Franklin]haha
01:51:05[Saint]yeah - fuck this. use a proper service.
01:51:12[Franklin]It needs to cross the pacific...
01:51:12[Saint]your server hasn't even responded yet.
01:51:19[Saint]timed out.
01:51:26[Franklin]haha
01:51:49[Franklin]ok, I'll try mega
01:51:53[Saint]use a proper service, please, if you want me to actually be able to view this.
01:51:56[Saint]imgur.
01:52:01[Saint]use imgur.
01:53:03[Franklin]https://mega.co.nz/#!ypUTVThS!24rI7FQriXKfPo43nFIwPHy7c_ZfCrYAmVy2hY1_fAk
01:53:09[Franklin]:p
01:54:39[Saint]yeah - that just looks to me like a theme that isn't aware of when it should or shouldn't be trying to draw a wps.
01:54:43[Saint]*.sbs
01:55:54[Saint]coupled with the fact that Rockbox doesn't seem to be correctly clearing backdrops presently.
01:56:34[Saint](which can be evidenced by changing themes when one of them isn't setting a backdrop)
01:58:06[Franklin]but this happens with pretty much every theme I've tried
01:59:40[Franklin][Saint], is there a theme that DOESN'T do this?
01:59:45[Franklin](sry for caps ;))
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02:00:04[Saint]cabbie doesn't.
02:00:06[Saint]mine don't.
02:00:36[Franklin]cabbie doesn't because the viewport is at 0,0
02:00:54[Franklin]wait... no
02:01:51[Franklin]So it is a bug in the theme
02:02:08[Saint]This seems to me that its a case of themes failing to check for whether or not its safe to draw an .sbs
02:02:20[Saint]Not entirely surprising that authors would forget about plugins.
02:02:42[Franklin]haha
02:03:07[Saint]the author could check for the case of a plugin using %cs and then swap out their ui viewport with a fullscreen viewport.
02:03:13[Saint]but they're probably...not.
02:03:13[Franklin]It happens with pretty much every theme on the theme site
02:03:40[Saint]probably every theme that uses an .sbs
02:03:44[Franklin]I'd like it for set_int menus to look the same as do_menu menus...
02:04:09[Saint]well, just do your tests with cabbie.
02:04:22[Saint]it doesn't need to work with any of the user supplied themes.
02:04:32[Saint]there's far too much crazy shit a theme could be doing.
02:04:45[Saint]you can't accommodate them all.
02:05:04[Franklin]:(
02:05:13[Saint]just make sure it works as expected with the default theme we ship.
02:05:18[Saint]that's all we need to care about.
02:05:33[Franklin]because now, the menu hides the top status bart
02:05:36[Franklin]bar
02:05:57[Franklin]soo... how"?
02:06:10[Saint]how what?
02:06:28[Franklin]to make cabbie work "normal" with plugins?
02:06:49[Saint]it does already.
02:07:01[Franklin]except for the set_* menus
02:07:06[Franklin]the status bar is hidden
02:07:14[Franklin](I know... a bit OCD again :))
02:07:38[Franklin]But still... how?
02:08:09[Saint]the status bar is visible here on all the screens I would expect it to be.
02:08:18[Saint]unless you've very recently fucked something up.
02:08:50[Franklin]not here
02:09:19[Saint]then it seems you've broken something, my dear.
02:09:36[Saint]the only time the statusbar isn't visible here is in the game map.
02:09:49[Franklin]how about settings->something?
02:10:08[Franklin]I have never messed with the theme code... never
02:10:29[Saint]what do you mean "settings" in superdom?
02:10:53[Franklin]from the main menu (not pause menu), got to "Settings" :)
02:11:19[Saint]Ohhhhh, aha. right.
02:11:29[Franklin]then choose any one
02:12:21[Franklin]BTW, that's also on my personal todo list for superdom (making pause/main menus more similar)
02:12:37[Saint]Dunno. Not sure its too much of an issue. I wouldn't worry about it personally.
02:12:58[Saint]Some themes are capable of disabling the statusbar anyway.
02:13:03[Franklin]No, to make the pause menus and main menus similar
02:13:09[Franklin]Not the status bar disappearing
02:13:15[Franklin]... that's too minor
02:13:42[Saint]But, anyway, on a slightly related note: make sure you do all your plugin testing with cabbie. Its the only theme that matters.
02:14:15[Saint]Other themes can introduce far too much unexpected weirdness to accommodate.
02:14:49[Saint]As for how to make sure the statusbar is displayed in these screens, I'm really not sure.
02:15:02[Saint]But I suspect the plugin itself should give you a clue.
02:15:42[Franklin]Nope
02:15:46[Franklin]just a call to rb->set_int
02:15:49[Franklin]nothing else
02:15:59[Franklin](which is a good thing.. easy!)
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11:26:55foolshpamaury: Logs g#939 and g#677 Can we merge?
11:27:01fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #939 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/939 : 3Add touchpad deadzone entry in Rockbox manual by Benjamin Brown
11:27:01fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #677 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/677 : 3Fuze+: add a configurable deadzone area for touchpad buttons by Amaury Pouly
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12:08:15[Saint]http://pastebin.com/u5EyPutE
12:08:19[Saint]jhMikeS waz here!!1!one!
12:09:07[Saint]that filesystem WIP is truly monumental.
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12:42:27[Saint]jhMikeS: (logs) your filesystem WIP patch set compiles for SDL hosted (tried for AMD64 and ARMv6/v7), but it throws a metric _fucktonne_ of warnings regarding ignoring the return value of read like...everywhere.
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15:36:12wodzpamaury: have you tried crosscompiling rockbox with clang lately? This suggests http://clang.llvm.org/docs/AttributeReference.html that they implemented 'IRQ' and 'FIQ' attributes
15:36:44pamauryno, last time I tried IRQ and FIQ was implemented and it was crashing iirc
15:36:49pamaurybut that was some time ago
15:37:59wodzthe documentation referred is for clang 3.6 which is not out yet
15:42:08wodzpamaury: Do you remember what exactly was wrong with clang generated rockbox binary?
15:42:42wodzpamaury: I mean wrong irq handler prologue, epilogue, both or something else?
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16:19:06pamaurywodz: I don't recall
16:19:26pamauryI'm not sure the problem was with the IRQ/FIQ by the way
16:21:34wodzpamaury: I vaguely remember we concluded it was IRQ/FIQ problem as not irq driven hwstub was working
16:22:58pamauryah yeah maybe
16:24:51wodzpamaury: and I recall you posted question about this in llvm ML and the answer was that nobody needed this so far and hence it was not implemented
16:25:16wodzmaybe I'll try next week
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19:23:02copperAm I dreaming, or does this http://cdn.head-fi.org/f/f7/f79aa0ca_DSC04361.jpeg look a lot like http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=2043&target=sansafuzeplus ?
19:24:09copperhttp://cdn.head-fi.org/3/34/34923eb5_DSC04355.jpeg
19:26:40copperhmm, not quite http://outpost.fr/tmp/6xL.jpg/
19:27:18copperthough the top status bar looks very familiar too
19:28:18coppersound volume to the left, "Now Playing" in the center, battery icon to the right
19:29:22copperhttp://fiio.net/UploadFiles/main/Files/2014/3/20140312171910.jpg
19:29:59ZincAlloylooks like an ipod/clip zip hybrid
19:31:48copperit's the FiiO X5
19:32:59copperhttp://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=2174&target=ipod6g
19:33:26copperwell
19:33:55copperI guess I can't bitch about similarities
19:34:06copperconsidering my iPod rip-offs
19:34:19coppersorry
19:34:21copper"homages"
19:34:22copper:P
19:36:01copperactually the top status bar thing was there on the first iPod in 2001
19:36:36*copper shrugs
19:37:44gevaertsDon't forget those DAPs that actually have a separate screen colour for the top bar :)
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23:26:54[Franklin] /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER [Franklin] gxixsuovvkcy
23:26:57[Franklin]woops
23:27:11[Franklin]well... wouldn't be much use, anyway
23:31:36preglowhaha
23:32:41[Franklin]had a space
23:32:47[Franklin]otherwise it would have worked...
23:33:01[Franklin]ok... gonna work on AI for superdom
23:40:33preglow /msg preglow what
23:40:35preglowhah
23:40:39preglowit really should strip the space
23:40:52preglowgod knows how many of those i've seen
23:41:32gevaertsuh, please no...
23:41:40gevaertsSometimes you want to say things that start with /
23:41:45preglow /say
23:41:54preglow/msg preglow guess what
23:42:00gevaertsYes, but that needs thinkingQ
23:42:03preglowheh
23:42:16preglowlike most things, i got used to it
23:42:31preglowand having spaces stripped would have spared me quite a few awkward moments on irc...
23:43:13gevaertsSounds like a client feature anyway
23:44:00[Franklin] /like this?/
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23:46:58[Franklin]Any chance this could get into master? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,48083
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