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#rockbox log for 2014-09-08

00:00:14[Saint]What does?
00:00:32[Franklin]sansa dock patch
00:00:40chrisb[Saint]: my compile of git-master rb with sansa lineout patch
00:00:49fs-bluebot Add setting to enable/disable lineout on Sansa Fuze V2 (patches, unconfirmed)
00:01:51[Saint]Ah. Ancient abandoned patches failing to apply is not uncommon.
00:02:23[Franklin]it applies with error, chrisb, did you resolve it?
00:03:26[Franklin][Saint], it's "just" three years old! :)
00:05:01jhMikeSit's probably from before audio.c cleaning, thus probably won't work at all
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00:06:02[Franklin]lesson learned: don't try to use old patches without making any changes!
00:06:08[Franklin]cuz it won't work!
00:07:08ZincAlloymy AA folder is only 29kB. something must have gone wrong when I unpacked it
00:07:35jhMikeStenthdb2master is now vol_tenthdb2hw
00:07:37[Franklin]unifont is 62M by itself
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00:15:52ZincAlloyI guess 7Zx just doesn't cut it then..
00:16:40[Franklin]try the real 7z
00:17:32ZincAlloyyeah, gotta start up the windows partition later
00:18:13[Saint]Grab them straight from my old tree.
00:19:49ZincAlloygreat! thanks a lot!
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00:26:32ZincAlloyah, much better!
00:37:34[Saint]OK. Right. That's the kicker then. I'll edit the link to point to a friendlier, but MUCH larger, archive instead.
00:37:53[Saint]The bandwidth saving isn't worth these issues.
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00:38:37[Saint]It'll be a fairly giant archive though. Maybe I'll split out the GNU Unifont conversions into their own set.
00:39:04[Saint]For people that specifically require wide glyph coverage.
00:39:41[Franklin]Or maybe tar+xz it?
00:41:01[Saint]Nah. Just good 'ol .zip, Joe Average friendly on a wide range of platforms.
00:41:39[Franklin]btw, how do you generate the AA fonts?
00:41:39[Saint]The problem with this archive was using an obscure bleeding edge 7zip compression method.
00:42:22[Saint]convttf and a whole metric fucktonne of manual cleanup and sizing.
00:42:37[Franklin]metric tonne
00:43:05[Franklin]LOL again
00:57:14ZincAlloyrockbox for android appears to be working alright
00:57:42ZincAlloyI just need a good theme now
00:59:48rojanyone know how to get a fuze v1 to work with the original sansa firmware again once it munged? i get the message fat partition corrupted. i was here earlier and triedimaging a normal non-rockboxed fuze via dd to the afflicted one but no go. rockbox usb on the fuze v1 is a disaster - can't copy files without hanging etc. onmy fuize v2 it's passable (refuses to connect at full speed unless you switch on the device first and then connect it) but th
00:59:48roje fuze v1 is a complete no-show. unfortunately one such hang toasted rockbox and the fuze firmjware. i can install rockbox on it still and charge it but as i said, copying music is a waste of time. so, how can i get my fuze to get back to the OF with a corrupted fat partition?
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01:01:32rojwill leave the irc client open pening replies. thanks for any help
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01:50:21rojfound my own answer. for anyone unfortunate enough to use rockbox with a fuze v1 and get a usb hang resulting in the player corrupting the fat partition where the firmware lives, download and install the sansa updater. it willrecreate the required partitions. then download and copy the latest v1 firmware to the root of the player and reboot. this may require a couple of times. you'll eventually get back the sansa operating system
01:51:12[Franklin]roj, thank you
01:51:36roji am NOT at all happy with the latest usb implementation for the fuze v1. it is inherently completely unstable when copying files to the device. i have tested this on TWO 8gtb fuze v1s and also a 4gb fuze v1.
01:52:00rojyou are welcome. i literally spent five hours on this today
01:52:13[Franklin]roj, latest git HEAD?
01:52:18[Franklin]Like a week new?
01:52:50roji'm using the latest stable release. i never use experimental builds
01:53:10[Franklin]that release is 1+ years old
01:53:20roj3.13 - in earlier releases it was more stable - a LOT more stable
01:53:25[Franklin]in the open source world, thats a millenium
01:53:28rojyes it is
01:53:44[Franklin]try the latest build - the bug may have been fixed
01:54:01rojthe player is even older -a nd yes i know it's horrendously old. but on my fuze v2 it's a LOT more stable
01:54:37[Saint]That really shouldn't be the case for pretty much any target that has a stable release.
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01:54:47[Franklin]just try the latest build, and if it doesn't work, you can always go back to whatever build you want
01:54:54[Saint]^ this
01:54:59[Franklin][Saint], it's always worth a try
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01:55:16roji may - when the wounds heal :) :) ;)
01:55:50rojdude (or girl - not sure from the nym), i even did a dd from a normal fuze to the afflited one. no go
01:55:57rojit's been frustrating
01:56:10[Franklin][Saint] is male
01:56:19rojah - sorry
01:56:29[Franklin]as are 90% of IRC users
01:56:39rojnot surprised
01:57:03roji'm an irc noob but go way back in online - we're talking back to the old dial in bbs days
01:57:24rojand yeah i'm no pilgrim to open source either :)
01:57:42rojyou guys have done what i can only call in incredible job
01:57:49[Saint]Offtopic. But, its incredibly hard to get accurate data on this. Many femaly users specifically won't identify their gender online, to save from creepy PMs from salivating neckbearded weirdos.
01:58:21rojjust five days ago on a flight out to vegas, i recommended your os to a kid with an old ipod nano. he practically hugged me
01:58:35[Franklin]go to #rockbox-community to discuss this
01:59:02rojin any even, there's the fix for the problem i posted earlier. hope it helps someone else sometime
01:59:16rojcheers and goodnite
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02:00:36[Franklin]that guy typed some giant messages...
02:03:02[Franklin]hey, anyone looked into a GPS port?
02:03:22[Franklin]they have some pretty decent specs these days
02:03:29[Franklin]2GB DDR2 RAM :O
02:04:37[Franklin]I mean, who uses their GPS's for navigation anymore?
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02:10:22plocothe iram overflow because my dsp is odd. I compiled for fuze without liker error. Maybe some other patches also consume more iram?
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03:23:43ZincAlloyis there an easy way to get back to the wps in rockbox for android?
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03:41:45chrisbwhen i look at git log for rockbox, the most recent commit is 50778c8, from 2013 and the second most recent commit 489c9a6 is from 4 days ago. why?
03:42:16[Saint]Gerrit tasks confuse the fuck out of it.
03:42:34[Saint]It'll be listing the date of the gerrit task instance.
03:44:05[Saint]aha - yep.
03:44:06[Saint]UploadedApr 11, 2013 7:22 AM
03:44:17[Saint]optimize WSPLL work for iriver h100 and h300 series
03:44:24chrisb[Saint]: ok, thanks. i follow another project using did gerrit get so popular so fast? is it a response to the kernel tree break-in via ssh several years ago?
03:44:47[Saint]Not as far as I'm aware.
03:45:02[Saint]And, as far as I know, Gerrit _isn't_ particularly popular at all.
03:45:07[Saint]It is widely hated.
03:45:18[Saint]As is Git in general.
03:45:28chrisbgit is loved!
03:46:32[Saint]Excuse me...
03:46:58[Saint]Ha! Ha ha. Ha...ha bloody ha. Ha. Oh, what it is to laugh. Tee Hee. Ha.
03:46:59chrisbgerrit seems like a way to allow third party control of commits/committers
03:47:48chrisb[Saint]: well magit-mode in emacs makes it an amazing experience to use git
03:48:05[Saint]We don't make full use of it like we should, really.
03:48:16[Saint]I mean, its nice, but for the way we're using it, its largely overkill.
03:49:19[Saint]Regarding popularity, several of our regular committers fell off the map entirely due to git being a truly frustrating experience at times.
03:49:45[Saint]After the switch to git, several committers just never bothered re-requesting commit rights.
03:49:49[Saint]It was...unfortunate.
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03:53:20[Saint]Gerrit would be a lot more useful if it allowed committers/submitters to auto-try a build via the build farm.
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03:53:43[Saint]But, that could be abused.
03:53:48[Saint]Rather scarily, in fact.
03:54:16[Saint]The build farm is rife for abuse if a committer went on a rampage.
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03:54:41chrisbi don't know anything about the build farm, or builds
03:54:47[Saint]If it allowed people to try builds from gerrit submissions, things could get amusing pretty quick.
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03:58:21[Saint]But, that would be a fair amount of effort to compromise only a few dozen machines for a period of around 24 hours max.
04:00:24[Saint]To be perfectly honest - I wouldn't have any issues with removing direct commit access completely.
04:00:56[Saint]So that only a single toplevel committer has direct access, and _everything_ must go via gerrit.
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04:40:39chrisb[Saint]: which player do you like?
04:42:52jhMikeSIf [Saint] the beareaucrat gets his way, this will be no fun...submit your commit to the central planning office
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05:57:17[Saint]roj: there is no release scheduled at present
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05:57:55[Saint]It is highly recommended to use the development builds for the stable targets at present.
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05:59:36[Saint]If you have issues with USB, you can always resort to using the SanDisk firmware for transfer.
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09:20:26foolshIt would be presumptuous of me to assume it's ok just as a point of fact since rockbox is opensource
09:24:19foolshI was inspired by reading the irc logs today
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11:09:07wodzpamaury: did I remember correctly that you used some clever way to tell ld to include binary image of hwstub in some of your work?
11:09:40pamauryit didn't rely on ld actually, wait a second, I'll post the code on pastebin or gerrit
11:10:06wodzpamaury: Also I have feature request for qeditor - diff view between two tabs which shows only registers which differ
11:10:40pamauryby the way I'm going to commit a new version of hwstub which uses its own interface and cleanup the protocol, you might run into some bugs
11:10:46pamauryok, I'll try to implement that
11:11:40wodzpamaury: go ahead, will test
11:12:05pamauryread/write should be fine, but I didn't really test the jump/call feature
11:13:11wodzI don't use those
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11:16:37pamauryI'm going to push to gerrit the trick to include hwstrub
11:18:00pamaury g#951
11:18:03fs-bluebotGerrit review #951 at : debug: run a specified stub on system exception by Amaury Pouly
11:18:24pamauryI didn't test it recently, I basically unstashed an old change
11:18:48pamaurythe way it works currently is that it relies on some #define to indicate the image to load, and it can be specified in the Makefile
11:18:59pamauryor you can just hardcode it in the code for debug purpose I guess
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11:23:53wodzah, I misremembered - this was incbin in crt0.S
11:24:28pamauryyou can do it with ld, but it turns out to be a pain
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11:26:07pamaurywho is a native english speaker ?
11:27:12pamauryAlexP: could you have a look at g#939 and possibly suggest improvements to the wording ?
11:27:15fs-bluebotGerrit review #939 at : Add touchpad deadzone entry in Rockbox manual by Benjamin Brown
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11:43:32foolshpamaury: if you want more, or less, technical details or another way you have in mind to word that you can let me know, I am a native english speaker after all, but I suspected you were after the manual entry when you asked earlier
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12:52:09pamauryfoolsh: ah I didn't think about it :) It's just that I'm not a native speaker and we usually have the manual modifications reviewed by true englishmen ;)
12:52:16pamaurySo I'm going to commit it then
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12:54:55pamauryfoolsh: you already are in the CREDITS ?
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13:02:27wodzhmm, I don't see anything wrong in cp3 configuration but still no sound :-(
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13:05:44pamaurywodz: maybe a gate controlled by gpio ?
13:06:36wodzpamaury: I thought about this, tested various combinations touched by OF without luck
13:07:37pamaurywodz: if I were you I would try to modify the OF to boot hwstub on some condition (like a certain keypress), so you can check the hardware configuration done by the OF
13:09:14wodzpamaury: I did it (sort of) - I forced jump to hwstub from the function responsible for keyclick in OF (so sound hw needs to be ready to play something)
13:11:33foolshpamaury: Yes, I am already in the credits file, thanks BTW :-)
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13:25:14pamaurywodz: and ? So the problem is the codec configuration ?
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13:28:41wodzpamaury: I have no clue honestly. Codec works as master, i2s irq fires which means codec consumes data.
13:29:08pamaurydid you try to read the codec config with hwstub in the OF ?
13:29:35wodzpamaury: wolfson registers are write-only unfortunately
13:30:10pamaurythat's a shame :(
13:30:31pamauryis the reverse engineering of the codec write useful ?
13:32:09wodzpamaury: you mean OF? It looks pretty standard (it is untouched wm8750 driver from sdk)
13:32:39pamauryhum, so maybe it's something else
13:32:55pamauryand if you boot rockbox from hwstub in the OF, does it work ?
13:33:10wodzhmm, didn't try
13:33:29pamaurymaybe try this, if the OF does some magic init you missed, it will work
13:33:48pamauryyou can even disable some codec init in rockbox to avoid messing with the configuration of the OF
13:36:37wodzI keep poking but I thought this will be easy
13:37:37pamauryyeah, I thought too
13:37:45pamauryit's probably a silly problem, as always...
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13:47:11wodzpamaury: How do you load binary file into memory with hwstub actually?
13:47:33pamaurywodz: in utils/hwstub/tools/ you can use hwstub_load
13:47:44pamauryyou need to give it an address and a file
13:47:53wodzpamaury: ok
13:48:02pamauryif the file has been scramble from rockbox, it should automatically remove the header
13:49:07pamauryI have not tested hwstub_load much recently, so the recent hwstub changes may have broken it, in which case tell me
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15:21:59plocofoolsh: two changes I guess might improve g922. 1. move enqueue and dequeue functions to dsp_filter.c 2. put pbe_filter in IRAM.
15:22:02fs-bluebotGerrit review #922 at : three new DSPs (WIP) by Chiwen Chang
15:27:04foolshI'll start testing
15:29:10plocoThank you. without actually target to test with, I couldn't do much
15:33:54foolshThe auditory fatigue reduction is _nice_ love it
15:35:58plocoI make that dsp after suffer in TTS for about one whole week.
15:41:12plocoI bet nobody would want to go thou the develop phase like I did. - test which frequency F the ear the most in high volume.
15:41:45foolshI wouldn't sign up for that no, haha
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15:43:30foolshUpload the two changes anytime you're ready, and I'll start my tests over again, take your time I'm running the control group
15:44:03plocosure. It should be ready in a short while.
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15:44:49plocobtw this actually helps me to make afr
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15:49:49foolshgood link, lots of information to soak up
15:52:09plocowow, you are the first one I know whom appreciate this. :)
15:55:28chrisbhas tenthdb2master(int db) been replaced or dropped in as3514 ?
15:56:20chrisbit also appears in wm8758.c
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16:09:42plocofoolsh: patch 17 uploaded.
16:10:00foolshAlright cool
16:11:32plocohave fun. :) its mid-night over here, I better get to bed soon
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16:33:39chrisbok looks like it has become vol_tenth2db()
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17:51:13*ZincAlloy1 's new theme is gonna be a desaster. Not much going on yet and it's already making all music stop after 19 seconds
17:57:59ZincAlloy1I guess rockbox for android is buggy after all. I've only been loading a wps backdrop, backdrop and album art
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18:26:59pixelmacongrats if this is reliably reproducible. That could possibly help figuring out what's wrong - in contrast to the bugs I've experienced so far which seem to not have a straight forward recipe to reproduce them
18:27:17ZincAlloy1still experimenting
18:27:35ZincAlloy1it's unpredictable
18:27:53ZincAlloy1I've saved a config with settings that work
18:28:55ZincAlloy1but if I load it after having loaded the theme files, playback still stops after while
18:32:56pixelmahmm, yeah. On my phone it also seems to be related to settings save or load in general, I sometimes get Rockbox into this unresponsive black screen state by just browsing and toggling (only tried while music is playing though) some settings but still no recipe
18:33:19pixelmabrowsing and toggling settings I mean
18:35:54ZincAlloy1it's not unresponsive. only playback stops.
18:36:07ZincAlloy1I can load a different song and it will do the same thing
18:37:45ZincAlloy1here's the theme:
18:38:04ZincAlloy1might help you track down the bug
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18:43:25chrisbhow do you decide to upgrade the bootloader?
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18:58:04foolshchrisb: Is this a general question or is something you're digging into? Generally it's not necessary unless some one states that it *is* required for their port
19:00:35foolshor the new bootloader is enhanced in some way and you want those enhancements
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19:03:33chrisbfoolsh: i have an old sansa e250v2 that i haven't touched in 2 years
19:04:06chrisbfoolsh: and i don't know if i need any of the features in the newer bootloader
19:07:41foolshI have some old e200s too. Booted one two days ago and installed a dev build on it with no trouble.
19:08:54chrisbfoolsh: ok, good to know
19:09:01foolshgrep'ing the git logs doesn't show anything interesting for the bootloader of the e2xxv2. If it still boots I think it's fine not to, but it's entirely up to you.
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19:27:41ZincAlloy1pixelma: album art seems to be the problem
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20:09:18chrisbhow often do the builds get done?
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20:13:36chrisbi have a branch which gives lineout in a dock for sansa fuzev2
20:14:19chrisbthat's some build farm. who paid/pays for it?
20:16:14gevaertsThere's a build after every commit
20:17:06gevaertsLots of people run build clients
20:18:20chrisbdo the build images then become available for download from the website?
20:19:17chrisbor is there a step in between, verification on all platforms?
20:19:23gevaertsThe regular firmware builds, yes. Those are the development builds you can download
20:22:42chrisbyes, i can see on the website that the version has already changed
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20:34:41ZincAlloy1how to I activate absolute point mode in a WPS? I can't find the command on the CustomWPS wiki page..
20:34:52ZincAlloy1do I
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20:57:59foolsh g#922 - Is nice, I mean really nice, it makes my $10 desktop speakers sound like $50 ones
20:58:02fs-bluebotGerrit review #922 at : three new DSPs (WIP) by Chiwen Chang
20:59:44foolshI've been testing patch set 17 most of the day without any troubles
21:00:50foolshI might have to rewrite most of his manual entries though ;-)
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21:42:19fmlIsn't there a typo in the new manual entry for the deadzone? "effectivly" should be "effectively" (an "e" is missed)
21:43:00foolshfml: I'll get right to that
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21:49:38foolsh g#952 If anyone around can commit this
21:49:42fs-bluebotGerrit review #952 at : Fix typo in fuxe+ deadzone manual entry by Benjamin Brown
21:49:49foolshopps wait
21:50:23foolshNot my day for spelling obviously
21:50:36foolshokay g#952
21:50:39fs-bluebotGerrit review #952 at : Fix typo in fuze+ deadzone manual entry by Benjamin Brown
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22:10:49foolshpamaury: if it's no trouble ^
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