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| 01:05:07 | [Franklin] | foolsh: I got up/down working... though it's an ugly hack |
| 01:05:15 | [Franklin] | an up/down index for each element |
| 01:05:42 | [Franklin] | but it works! :) |
| 01:05:50 | foolsh | yeah, cool |
| 01:06:32 | foolsh | I'm ready to pull my hair out been on g#656 all day |
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| 01:06:55 | nialv7 | Can anyone review this: http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/958? this fix decoding of id3v2 tags for me |
| 01:07:20 | [Franklin] | now to get a dev to review it :) |
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| 01:09:49 | foolsh | [Franklin]: compiling ptable now |
| 01:10:32 | ZincAlloy1 | who's the android widget expert here? |
| 01:10:39 | byteframe | all y'alls roque bocks techno-jargon is receiving for me, a woodrow wilson. |
| 01:13:50 | foolsh | [Franklin]: Yeah thats how i imagined it could work last night before I went to bed ;-) |
| 01:16:41 | foolsh | [Franklin]: That's nice! Now to write the docs and an update to the manual |
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| 01:20:13 | [Franklin] | foolsh: ah... stupid manual |
| 01:23:43 | [Franklin] | foolsh: so what should the manual entry say? |
| 01:23:51 | [Franklin] | "periodic table is a periodic table |
| 01:23:52 | [Franklin] | " |
| 01:24:39 | * | [Saint] wonders how up-to-date it is with the newfound super-heavey elements that keep popping up |
| 01:24:48 | [Franklin] | yeah, me too |
| 01:24:56 | [Franklin] | it has everything up to 118 |
| 01:24:58 | [Saint] | I assume its the "classical" periodic table of elements |
| 01:25:02 | [Franklin] | yes |
| 01:25:12 | [Franklin] | 1-118, hydrogen-ununoctium |
| 01:25:23 | ZincAlloy1 | just read the wikipedia article on perodic table for inspiration |
| 01:25:48 | [Franklin] | so I'll get the manual entry, and it should be ready to go |
| 01:27:21 | foolsh | [Franklin]: A brief description of features and controls will do, it is after all pretty much self explanatory *cough* cheat sheet for chemistry *cough* |
| 01:27:39 | [Franklin] | yep :D |
| 01:28:06 | [Franklin] | All I can think of is "Periodic table is a periodic table viewer" |
| 01:28:10 | [Franklin] | any ideas? |
| 01:29:31 | [Franklin] | but wait... the up/down isn't exactly how it should be |
| 01:29:44 | [Franklin] | yttrium is "up" from lanthanum |
| 01:29:49 | [Franklin] | which is wrong |
| 01:32:02 | [Franklin] | instead, yttrium should be "right" of actinium |
| 01:32:34 | [Saint] | (Pe)(R)(IO)di(C) table. |
| 01:32:50 | [Franklin] | but the code doesn't allow that easily... so who cares? |
| 01:33:14 | dfkt | [br]eaking[ba]d |
| 01:33:20 | [Saint] | No point in doing a period table if the relationships are wrong. |
| 01:33:29 | [Saint] | No point. At all. Really. |
| 01:33:43 | [Franklin] | (instead, it has barium to the left of lanthanum |
| 01:33:51 | ZincAlloy1 | you could simply save a picture of the periodic table |
| 01:34:04 | [Franklin] | and [Saint], it's just the navigation of the table that's wrong |
| 01:34:16 | [Saint] | "just" |
| 01:34:30 | [Saint] | ZincAlloy1: is quite correct, though, we have am imageviewer. |
| 01:34:53 | ZincAlloy1 | I used to use it all the time for subway maps :D |
| 01:35:06 | [Franklin] | Just 3 elements for which it is barely wrong, and even so, it has no impact on the accuracy of the table |
| 01:35:18 | [Franklin] | IE, the data is all correct |
| 01:35:25 | ZincAlloy1 | still a bug |
| 01:35:34 | [Saint] | A rather glaring one. |
| 01:35:59 | [Franklin] | woohoo time to rewrite the whole plugin :) |
| 01:36:09 | [Saint] | If you're going to releationships to the mix, I'd kinda expect it to get it right. |
| 01:36:23 | [Saint] | But, then, honestly, I sincerely doubt anyone will be consulting their DAP for a periodic table. |
| 01:36:34 | * | foolsh s not sure [Saint] is pushing [Franklin] to do better and improve, or just being mean ;-) |
| 01:36:39 | [Saint] | So I doubt anyone would notice. |
| 01:36:42 | [Franklin] | LOL |
| 01:36:57 | * | [Franklin] thinks the latter |
| 01:37:02 | [Saint] | foolsh: replace mean with realistic. |
| 01:37:33 | foolsh | [Franklin]: "The periodic table plugin allows easy browsing and viewing of details of elements, giving a detailed output for each selection. Navigate the table using the direction keys, pressing back or exit quit the plugin" note that I've done your job ;-) |
| 01:37:50 | [Franklin] | Copy+paste time! :) |
| 01:38:22 | [Saint] | "except if you want to look at elemental relations, in which case, it'll get it wrong" ;P |
| 01:38:45 | * | [Franklin] finally gets what [Saint] means |
| 01:38:51 | [Franklin] | and agrees |
| 01:39:08 | ZincAlloy1 | "don't blame us for your chemistry grades" |
| 01:39:14 | [Saint] | hahahaha |
| 01:40:17 | [Franklin] | [Saint]: if I made lanthanum right of strontium, the behavior would be weird |
| 01:40:32 | [Franklin] | putting it to the left of barium just makes sense |
| 01:40:58 | [Saint] | Its certainly an interesting conundrum. |
| 01:41:16 | [Franklin] | make it feel right, or be right |
| 01:41:26 | [Franklin] | good,fast,cheap... choose any 2 |
| 01:41:32 | * | [Franklin] chooses fast and cheap |
| 01:41:51 | ZincAlloy1 | I'm for good and cheap |
| 01:42:19 | [Franklin] | but I could just add a special case for the back/forward keys to do that |
| 01:42:23 | [Franklin] | easy peasy |
| 01:44:09 | [Franklin] | and then the atomic numbers wouldn't be increasing by one each time |
| 01:44:34 | foolsh | not sure that an issue if navigation "feels right" |
| 01:45:05 | [Franklin] | but then the atomic numbers wouldn't be increasing over the whole table |
| 01:46:07 | foolsh | That how the plug was written at first but, by adding up and down that idea kinda got tossed out |
| 01:46:23 | [Franklin] | but also, it's really not that hard to implement |
| 01:48:35 | foolsh | I think just having navigation "feel right" is more important than incrementally stepping through the elements, which again kinda got tossed out with Up an Down navigation, people are smart they'll know whats up |
| 01:48:57 | foolsh | well some are smart |
| 01:49:34 | ZincAlloy1 | it's the not so smart people who will need this for cheating |
| 01:49:41 | [Franklin] | LOL |
| 01:49:55 | ZincAlloy1 | or the smart but lazy ones.. |
| 01:56:40 | [Franklin] | oh yeah, wikipedia is great |
| 01:56:46 | [Franklin] | (on rockbox) |
| 01:56:59 | ZincAlloy1 | :) |
| 01:57:00 | [Franklin] | links, fast search :O |
| 01:57:14 | [Franklin] | I mean, that's 50GB of text to search! |
| 01:57:30 | ZincAlloy1 | wow |
| 01:58:20 | [Franklin] | well, 200MB of titles to search |
| 01:58:27 | [Franklin] | and 300MB of redirects |
| 01:58:34 | [Franklin] | but still... 1 second! |
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| 02:01:21 | [Franklin] | foolsh: I see complaints for this design in the future :) |
| 02:01:46 | foolsh | How so? |
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| 02:02:22 | [Franklin] | people will go on the forums with posts like "Periodic table design sucks!" |
| 02:02:31 | [Franklin] | and come on IRC and complain, too |
| 02:03:08 | [Franklin] | if it happens, just comment out lines 624-652 and 664-694 :) |
| 02:05:02 | foolsh | I think the it still needs tweaked in some ways, but it is what it is, really whats to complain about |
| 02:05:16 | [Franklin] | how so? |
| 02:07:07 | foolsh | By introducing movement up and down to adjacent blocks and rolling over to the next element at the bottom or top of the same column... |
| 02:07:32 | [Franklin] | that's done |
| 02:07:56 | foolsh | now left and right feel out of place, by jumping to the next row or previous row instead of staying in the same row |
| 02:07:57 | [Franklin] | except one more tweak |
| 02:08:15 | [Franklin] | ahh... that will be rather hard to do |
| 02:08:28 | foolsh | I know, at least as it is now |
| 02:08:35 | [Franklin] | but really, who cares? |
| 02:09:00 | [Franklin] | one time issue left with up/down, and then it should be commitable |
| 02:15:33 | [Franklin] | ok... it's good |
| 02:16:30 | [Franklin] | now just need a review+commit :) |
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| 02:17:56 | foolsh | "pressing back or exit quit the plugin" should read "pressing back or exit quits the plugin" |
| 02:18:13 | [Franklin] | you can do that ;) |
| 02:18:25 | foolsh | Or even "pressing back or exit quit the plugin" should read "pressing back or exit, quits the plugin" |
| 02:18:47 | [Franklin] | actually, no. I'll do it |
| 02:18:56 | foolsh | right ;-) |
| 02:19:13 | * | [Franklin] can be distracted very easily |
| 02:19:13 | foolsh | use the comma |
| 02:19:46 | [Franklin] | git commit -m " |
| 02:19:49 | [Franklin] | ah |
| 02:20:26 | * | foolsh points look [Franklin] over there −−> |
| 02:20:32 | * | foolsh steals [Franklin]'s gerrit task while he's not looking |
| 02:20:38 | [Franklin] | that's my other terminal |
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| 02:41:40 | [Franklin] | ah... wifi broke up |
| 02:44:49 | GloomyJD | I've just been testing out the ZEN X-Fi port, even at this stage of development it is nicely stable. USB is significantly more reliable than my Clip+ and Clip Zip interestingly. |
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| 03:02:08 | mudlord | question: will the following card work on a rockboxed sansa clip zip? |
| 03:02:09 | mudlord | http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-Reader-MB-MP64DB-AM/dp/B00JEVHYLO/ref=sr_1_12?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1410656498&sr=1-12&keywords=microsd+reader |
| 03:02:26 | mudlord | its a samsung evo 64gb |
| 03:02:46 | [Franklin] | most likely |
| 03:02:51 | mudlord | cool |
| 03:02:55 | mudlord | just was making sure |
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| 03:03:04 | [Franklin] | Just make sure it's FAT formatted |
| 03:03:17 | mudlord | and not FAT32? |
| 03:03:20 | [Saint] | any sdcard will work. |
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| 03:03:38 | [Saint] | (assuming its FAT32) |
| 03:03:48 | [Franklin] | yes, FAT32, not FAT16 ;) |
| 03:03:58 | [Franklin] | (usually, when I refer to FAT, I mean FAT32) |
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| 03:11:13 | foolsh | I'd like to talk about http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/922/ (full address since our bot buddy is missing) these 3 new DSPs are nice and I'd like to advocate them to the testers here, its something I'd like to see included, but with out thorough testing a patch like this might go stale |
| 03:11:51 | [Franklin] | I tried it a while back, it didn't work |
| 03:11:57 | [Franklin] | but I'm guessing it will now |
| 03:12:16 | foolsh | It should,I've been running it for a week now |
| 03:12:22 | [Franklin] | what target? |
| 03:12:53 | foolsh | fuze+ , have a e200 but yet to test it |
| 03:13:24 | [Franklin] | ok, trying for ipod6g |
| 03:13:28 | foolsh | So go find some music you like [Franklin] |
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| 03:14:27 | * | [Franklin] has no "real" music |
| 03:14:33 | [Franklin] | except those tinny piezo tunes |
| 03:14:49 | [Franklin] | imperial march, fuer elise, etc. |
| 03:14:53 | [Franklin] | SMB theme :) |
| 03:15:59 | [Franklin] | which actually sounds decent |
| 03:16:11 | [Franklin] | all the others are just terrible |
| 03:16:24 | [Franklin] | unless [Saint] has something to say about them :) |
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| 03:18:54 | nialv7 | where can I find the datasheets for S5L8702? |
| 03:21:31 | [Saint] | AFAIK, you can't. |
| 03:22:29 | drvink | http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/S5L8700_datasheet there is (was) for the s5l8700 here, dunno how similar they are |
| 03:23:00 | nialv7 | [Saint], oh ok.. |
| 03:23:14 | foolsh | Could be dupulicate, as far as chip makers go, but most likely has a few more features |
| 03:23:20 | [Franklin] | they're slightly different, I.E., Timer C doesn't exist on 02 |
| 03:23:25 | * | [Saint] should clarify |
| 03:23:28 | [Franklin] | so no DOOM without a dirty hack |
| 03:23:37 | [Saint] | I was assuming you mean specific to the Classic? |
| 03:23:50 | [Saint] | In which case, that Datasheet will be /mostly/ helpful. |
| 03:24:02 | [Franklin] | but as I said, it's not exactly the same |
| 03:24:04 | [Saint] | But, there's rather a lot of differences there as I understand it. |
| 03:25:45 | drvink | looks like you'll need to ask someone for the file, as the rapidshit is dead |
| 03:26:54 | [Franklin] | foolsh: the 3 DSPs are nice! |
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| 03:27:17 | nialv7 | or if someone could explain to me how ipod6g ata driver works, that'll be great |
| 03:27:26 | [Franklin] | nialv7: ask TheSeven |
| 03:29:27 | foolsh | [Franklin]: I freakin told ya! |
| 03:29:36 | [Franklin] | Haas surround is the best |
| 03:30:17 | [Franklin] | though I can't see what PBE does |
| 03:30:22 | [Franklin] | it sounds the same to me |
| 03:30:59 | [Franklin] | the sound just sounds different with Haas surround |
| 03:31:03 | [Franklin] | not with PBE |
| 03:31:23 | mudlord | any chance of reverb/echo or are some targets too weak for that? |
| 03:31:32 | mudlord | I wish I knew fixedpoint arithmetic |
| 03:31:42 | [Franklin] | anything is possible |
| 03:31:47 | mudlord | otherwise i could port some FB2K DSP code I did |
| 03:32:14 | [Franklin] | Is MIDI DSP'ed? |
| 03:32:39 | mudlord | with FB2K? Yes, all input components feed floats |
| 03:32:48 | mudlord | to the DSP/output/vis |
| 03:33:13 | [Franklin] | no, does rockbox run MIDI output through the DSPs? |
| 03:33:22 | mudlord | oh |
| 03:39:49 | foolsh | I have no idea [Franklin] test a midi out I guess |
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| 03:42:18 | [Franklin] | hey saratoga |
| 03:42:28 | saratoga | midi is a plugin, so no DSP effects AFAIK |
| 03:42:30 | saratoga | sup |
| 03:42:38 | [Franklin] | so yeah, try superdom |
| 03:42:45 | [Franklin] | (my patch for it, that is) |
| 03:42:56 | saratoga | assuming it compiles, i think it can go in |
| 03:42:59 | saratoga | you had several right? |
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| 03:44:33 | saratoga | the code itself looks good, but i didn't test on target |
| 03:44:45 | [Franklin] | so commit and test :) |
| 03:45:07 | saratoga | i'll push g940 now, stick around for a few in case it breaks something |
| 03:45:37 | [Franklin] | yeah |
| 03:46:01 | saratoga | huh merge conflict? |
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| 03:46:26 | [Franklin] | huh? |
| 03:46:33 | saratoga | does it depend on the other patches? |
| 03:46:43 | [Franklin] | yeah |
| 03:46:45 | [Franklin] | :( |
| 03:46:48 | saratoga | oh |
| 03:46:49 | saratoga | damn it |
| 03:46:52 | saratoga | i didn't notice that |
| 03:46:55 | saratoga | ok let me look over it |
| 03:47:05 | [Franklin] | so first whitespace cleanup |
| 03:47:08 | [Franklin] | then code cleanup |
| 03:47:13 | [Franklin] | then game improvements |
| 03:47:47 | saratoga | ok those look fine |
| 03:47:49 | saratoga | here goes |
| 03:48:57 | [Franklin] | fingers crossed. |
| 03:48:59 | [Franklin] | ... |
| 03:51:56 | saratoga | mudlord: fixed point is annoying but not really that hard |
| 03:52:13 | saratoga | basically, you call a function that does a multiply followed by a shift |
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| 03:58:13 | [Franklin] | yay all green! :D |
| 03:58:23 | saratoga | kugel, JdGordon: you guys ok with the DX50/90 port as it stands? the code looks fine to me and is reported to not break anything on Android |
| 03:58:56 | saratoga | and in 20 minutes we'll know if the other patches worked :) |
| 03:59:12 | [Franklin] | LOL |
| 03:59:33 | * | [Franklin] would run a build node if he had a faster machine |
| 03:59:39 | [Franklin] | it's slow enough already |
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| 04:00:00 | [Franklin] | so unless a raspberry pi is needed in the build farm... :) |
| 04:01:40 | * | [Franklin] can't contribute much |
| 04:02:11 | [Franklin] | what's iridium? |
| 04:02:14 | [Franklin] | (build node) |
| 04:02:28 | [Franklin] | some server? |
| 04:02:47 | [Saint] | they're a;; "some server", technically speaking. |
| 04:02:52 | [Saint] | *all |
| 04:03:15 | [Franklin] | true, but a "purpose-built server"? |
| 04:03:27 | * | [Franklin] 'll ask pamaury |
| 04:04:10 | [Franklin] | iridium took 1 second for some builds :O |
| 04:04:22 | * | [Franklin] can do 1 minute best with a full ccache |
| 04:05:37 | saratoga | has anyone benchmarked the new DSP effects in g#922? test_codec should be able to do that |
| 04:06:23 | [Franklin] | test_codec? |
| 04:06:26 | [Franklin] | a plugin? |
| 04:06:48 | saratoga | its a viewer technically |
| 04:06:57 | saratoga | you have to enable the test plugins when you run configure |
| 04:07:10 | saratoga | for some reason everyone insisted that it not be included in all builds ages ago |
| 04:07:20 | [Franklin] | so speed test with dsp? |
| 04:07:33 | saratoga | but it lets you benchmark codecs or DSPs with different files and also will output the PCM values to a .WAV file if you want |
| 04:07:44 | [Franklin] | which is useful |
| 04:08:00 | [Saint] | Not for Joe Average it isn't. |
| 04:08:09 | [Saint] | And anything that doesn't end up in "what is <this>?" is a good thing, to me. |
| 04:08:29 | [Saint] | If you actually _want_ test_codec, reconf, its trivial. |
| 04:08:34 | [Franklin] | true... but for everyone else, it's great |
| 04:08:38 | * | [Franklin] has it |
| 04:08:47 | saratoga | its not super useful for the average user, but for things like testing EQ settings it can be nice |
| 04:08:56 | [Saint] | The thing is "everyone else" is like a half dozen people. |
| 04:08:58 | [Franklin] | and converting to WAV |
| 04:09:07 | [Saint] | Joe Average couldn;t care a fuck about codec efficiency. |
| 04:09:30 | saratoga | theres probably people who wouldn't mind running RMAA on a DSP effect or seeing how much slower a format or effect is but don't know how to compile |
| 04:09:53 | [Saint] | Good thing we have a wiki that explains it then, huh? ;) |
| 04:10:14 | saratoga | provided you don't mind downloading a half gig of files at least |
| 04:10:53 | [Saint] | That really shouldn't be a concern in this age. |
| 04:11:42 | [Franklin] | what's wrong the build farm? |
| 04:11:43 | [Franklin] | *with |
| 04:12:10 | [Saint] | I guess the thing is, where do you stop? There's likely an argument for including every test plugin if you look carefully enough. |
| 04:12:14 | [Franklin] | Is it just me, or is it only building for ~12 targets? |
| 04:12:43 | [Franklin] | saratoga: with MP3 and Haas surround, 418% realtime |
| 04:13:06 | saratoga | hit the "toggle" button |
| 04:13:24 | saratoga | i'd recommend wav, but you can compare that to without that effect enabled too |
| 04:13:36 | saratoga | DSP overhead = with - without |
| 04:14:08 | [Franklin] | ahh... toggle :) |
| 04:14:21 | [Franklin] | but something's wrong with ares-obo |
| 04:14:23 | saratoga | anything else I should push while i'm here? |
| 04:14:50 | [Franklin] | DOOM workaround if you want |
| 04:14:59 | [Franklin] | and the rest of the superdom fixes |
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| 04:15:18 | * | [Saint] would prefer that DOOM workaround NOT go in. |
| 04:15:28 | [Saint] | Because that's exactly what it is, a workaround. |
| 04:15:44 | saratoga | what does g#932 actually do? |
| 04:15:58 | [Franklin] | makes doom use the plugin timer instead of the HW timer |
| 04:16:11 | [Franklin] | (HW timer doesn't exist on s5l8702) |
| 04:16:16 | saratoga | [WIP] Superdom: AI can now use nukes is no long a work in progres? |
| 04:16:28 | [Franklin] | Yes, it's good now |
| 04:16:41 | [Franklin] | I have it running on my ipod perfectly |
| 04:17:04 | [Franklin] | with all the patches applied |
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| 04:17:36 | [Franklin] | it's getting pretty late here, so I might leave any second |
| 04:17:48 | saratoga | ok i applied the other patches |
| 04:17:56 | saratoga | hmm thats going to take a while to build |
| 04:18:05 | [Saint] | saratoga: regarding 932, it makes bar tags update the config accordingly when that bar tag controls a setting in touchscreen targets. |
| 04:18:11 | [Saint] | there's another patch in thatseries. |
| 04:18:38 | saratoga | bar tags in the WPS? |
| 04:18:50 | [Saint] | or SBS/FMS, yes. |
| 04:19:15 | foolsh | wouldn't mind g#957 going in, all that whitespace makes my spidey senses tingle |
| 04:19:19 | saratoga | i didn't know those existed |
| 04:19:23 | [Saint] | Id talk to mister Gordon before pushing that series. |
| 04:19:28 | saratoga | seems sensible, although someone who knows that code must review it |
| 04:19:35 | * | [Saint] nods |
| 04:19:48 | [Saint] | The DooM workaround I'd rather not go in. |
| 04:19:56 | [Franklin] | remember my massive whitespace patch? :) |
| 04:19:58 | [Saint] | It gives zero encouragement to fix the actual issue at hand. |
| 04:20:02 | [Franklin] | yep |
| 04:20:19 | [Franklin] | But for people who REALLY wanna play doom, it's there :) |
| 04:20:27 | saratoga | i'll leave that one up to TheSeven |
| 04:20:31 | saratoga | that port is his mess |
| 04:20:51 | [Franklin] | LOL |
| 04:21:05 | [Franklin] | saratoga: http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/908/ <−− DONT COMMIT!!! |
| 04:21:27 | saratoga | yeah i'm not doing that |
| 04:21:34 | [Franklin] | what, 90KLOC :) |
| 04:21:37 | saratoga | i dislike changing white space even if its wrong because it screws up the version control |
| 04:21:50 | [Franklin] | yep, that's why I abandoned it :) |
| 04:21:55 | saratoga | that configure thing looks ok to me, but probably someone else should comment on if we want to go around fixing it |
| 04:22:23 | [Saint] | ah, resolution sensitive buffer? |
| 04:22:24 | [Franklin] | and as [Saint] said, it's impossible to review |
| 04:22:42 | [Franklin] | but it's getting really late, so gnite! |
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| 04:27:40 | saratoga | anyone understand the database well enough to answer this: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,48534.msg229608/topicseen.html#msg229608 |
| 04:28:34 | [Saint] | Everyone's been afraid to touch it for years. |
| 04:28:49 | [Saint] | At least the 5(?) years or so I've been around. |
| 04:29:17 | foolsh | looks like madshad is on his way to becoming maintainer of database no? |
| 04:29:57 | foolsh | Give'm a nudge [Saint] |
| 04:30:29 | [Saint] | "This is your life now, embrace it." |
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| 04:50:37 | ivanf | Hello |
| 04:50:47 | ivanf | can a 64gb sd card be used in the clip+? |
| 04:50:57 | [Saint] | Yes. |
| 04:51:07 | [Saint] | Assuming its correctly formatted. |
| 04:51:22 | ivanf | When you say correctly formatted.. what do you mean? |
| 04:51:27 | [Saint] | The standard dictates exFAT. We don't dig exFAt. |
| 04:51:33 | [Saint] | FAT32. |
| 04:51:52 | ivanf | Oh okay |
| 04:52:02 | [Saint] | (...why a standard dictates the filesystem is beyond me...but, yay...standards... :-/) |
| 04:52:04 | ivanf | Anything beyond 64gb though? |
| 04:52:15 | [Saint] | Anything up to 2TB. |
| 04:52:21 | ivanf | :O |
| 04:52:24 | [Saint] | (which won't ever happen) |
| 04:52:35 | ivanf | How come? |
| 04:53:01 | [Saint] | SanDisk has only /just/ released 512GB, and that took...over a decade? |
| 04:53:14 | [Saint] | I should bloody well hope that in another decade, this format is long dead. |
| 04:53:37 | foolsh | Moore's law in reverse? lol |
| 04:54:15 | [Saint] | the tl;dr version is that a 512Gb card was am _amazing_ feat of engineering, and I really don't see anyone approaching 1TB in the very near future. |
| 04:54:24 | ivanf | Meh |
| 04:54:26 | [Saint] | Let alone two. |
| 04:55:28 | ivanf | You never know |
| 04:56:16 | [Saint] | We would need to turn fabrication technology on its head to get near that kind of density. |
| 04:56:26 | [Saint] | Current tech just doesn't allow for it. |
| 04:56:59 | ivanf | Oh |
| 04:57:02 | [Saint] | I hope to God sd dies before anyone has a serious go at attempting it, though. |
| 04:57:16 | [Saint] | It had a good run. |
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| 05:03:24 | ivanf | why? |
| 05:03:29 | ivanf | I mean why do you hate it so much |
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| 05:05:08 | [Saint] | Carrying around sections of personal media is so...barbaric. |
| 05:05:27 | [Saint] | I just stream everything these days. I hope the world wakes up to this sooner than later. |
| 05:08:19 | ivanf | You do understand there are places you can't always stream to right? |
| 05:08:32 | ivanf | Also that nor everywhere in the world they're as connected. |
| 05:09:59 | [Saint] | Thankfully I don't live there. |
| 05:10:20 | [Saint] | Not my fault <locales> telephony and data sucks. |
| 05:11:25 | [Saint] | I don't really see much of a market for large format sd removable storage outside of professional digital photography (which isn't using consumer grade tech anyway) |
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| 05:12:51 | ivanf | In a way I think fragments are good. |
| 05:13:09 | ivanf | Allows me to keep diff genres if I like in diff cards |
| 05:13:22 | ivanf | Also the fact that I can carry and change add or remove whatever I like |
| 05:15:11 | [Saint] | All of my DAPs realistically offer me far more storage than I could ever use during an "away period" from "the mothership" as it were. |
| 05:15:34 | ivanf | That is true |
| 05:15:44 | [Saint] | I used to have this issue, as did we all, but storage progressed a lot. |
| 05:15:54 | ivanf | I mean atm my clip+ has only 8gb and 4gb card I added |
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| 05:16:01 | ivanf | I would like to have a 128gb in there |
| 05:16:48 | [Saint] | at mp3 320, 12GB is still rather a lot of audio... |
| 05:16:56 | [Saint] | but I do see the point. |
| 05:17:28 | ivanf | I agree |
| 05:17:37 | ivanf | I guess we humans always want more than needed lol |
| 05:17:52 | ivanf | I think tbh 30gb is more than enough for an avg person |
| 05:18:19 | [Saint] | Mobiles put a very big hole in the DAP market. |
| 05:18:22 | ivanf | I bet most have never even listened to 1 song more than once, or even if they did.. they haven't listen to the other 96% of it |
| 05:18:28 | [Saint] | One I honestly don't see it recovering from. |
| 05:18:30 | ivanf | Yes, that it did. |
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| 05:18:50 | ivanf | Unless mobile actually will go for a good dap. |
| 05:19:14 | ivanf | I mean tbh if mobile had good battery life then it's possible |
| 05:20:45 | ivanf | hmm |
| 05:21:02 | saratoga | i think Google claimed something like 50 hours of music playback on a Nexus 5 in airplane mode |
| 05:21:24 | saratoga | compared to running the modem, i think music playback is basically free |
| 05:22:00 | ivanf | Yeah |
| 05:22:32 | ivanf | I'm really shocked with all these advances ... we still can't get a full 24 hours or even 72 hours with full use of everything.. |
| 05:23:23 | saratoga | you can, you'd just have to a get larger phone battery |
| 05:23:45 | saratoga | they pick the battery size so that it lasts a day, and if it lasts longer than that, they shrink the battery |
| 05:24:33 | [Saint] | People need to trickle charge more. |
| 05:24:48 | [Saint] | Sitting down for a bit, see a charger? Charge. At your desk? Charge. etc. |
| 05:24:58 | [Saint] | In the car? ..you know it. |
| 05:25:50 | [Saint] | I honestly can't remember the last time my phone went flat or I needed to budget its charge out. |
| 05:26:17 | ivanf | Yeah |
| 05:26:31 | ivanf | But 48 hours with full 100% usage should be standard |
| 05:26:49 | ivanf | I use my GPS all day.. so I would love to get a full 48 hours out of it |
| 05:27:53 | [Saint] | Isn't network location essentially free and largely good enough in populated areas? |
| 05:28:21 | [Saint] | network triangulation can be scarily acurate. |
| 05:28:29 | ivanf | Yeap |
| 05:28:43 | ivanf | I mean i'm in NYC. So we're good here. |
| 05:28:58 | ivanf | But even so I love having control of my music in my hand I guess |
| 05:29:19 | saratoga | GPS is harder, since the analog electronics required to maintain a lock on the various satellites don't really improve in power consumption much over time |
| 05:29:29 | ivanf | Yeah |
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| 05:30:37 | saratoga | you'll need the GPS modernization program to get off the ground for that |
| 05:31:59 | [Saint] | glwt |
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| 05:47:20 | JdGordon | saratoga: I really don't know anything about the android port, or that one in particular |
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| 05:53:27 | ploco | saratoga: there is no test_codec for hosted target right? |
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| 06:20:36 | ploco | my bad. there is test_codec for Android. and here' my test result: |
| 06:20:41 | ploco | mp3 no dsp: decode time 4.81s, file duration 285.04s, 5925.98% realtime |
| 06:20:46 | ploco | with pbe: decode time 8.13s, file duration 285.04s, 3506.02% realtime |
| 06:20:52 | ploco | with haas: decode time 8.05s, file duration 285.04s, 3540.86% realtime |
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| 06:20:59 | ploco | with afr: decode time 6.81s, file duration 285.04s, 4185.60% realtime |
| 06:21:03 | ploco | with all three: decode time 12.41s, file duration 285.04s, 2296.85% realtime |
| 06:44:43 | saratoga | ploco: maybe try an older version before you added those queue and dequeue steps |
| 06:44:49 | saratoga | they look quite costly |
| 06:48:58 | saratoga | if at all possible, try to take the branch instructions out of the inner loop, they will be quite painful |
| 06:50:11 | ploco | please point me to the line in the codes. (branch instructions?) |
| 06:51:19 | saratoga | if statements |
| 06:51:35 | saratoga | in pbe.c the queue and dequeue instructions involve multiple if statements per multiply |
| 06:53:38 | ploco | there are three buffers associate in that dsp. each pair of enqueue dequeue are dealing with different buffer set |
| 06:56:00 | ploco | patch set 18 has removed all if statement in pbe |
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| 07:01:11 | ploco | but if you mean those inside enqueue, dequeue... its possible not to use if statement, but the code would be really ugly again |
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| 07:02:06 | ploco | because that meaning involve macro |
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| 07:19:52 | ploco | foolsh: would you like to rewrite the manual entry for the 3 dsps? I know my writing skills is extremely bad . |
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| 07:57:40 | mudlord | just wondering if the following SD card would work on a rockbox sansa clip zip |
| 07:57:41 | mudlord | http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=692_1243&products_id=24971 |
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| 08:00:34 | [Saint] | It would, but its absolutel overkill. |
| 08:00:50 | [Saint] | There's absolutely no need to have anything even remotely that fast for a DAP. |
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| 08:01:51 | [Saint] | And it comes with completely irrelevant android "antivirus". |
| 08:02:02 | [Saint] | That should say something about the merchant right there. |
| 08:02:25 | mudlord | well it comes with a microSD card reader and usb reader dongles on the site are 10 bucks each.... |
| 08:02:32 | mudlord | and a sandisk sd card is 49 bucks |
| 08:02:49 | [Saint] | Your clip zip _is_ a card reader. ;) |
| 08:03:06 | mudlord | but wouldnt i need to format it before i use it in rockbox? |
| 08:03:39 | mudlord | and wouldnt the original FW not support 64gb sd cards so I would be able to do a format? |
| 08:04:26 | [Saint] | I'm not sure if SanDisk did in fact cripple the hardware or not. |
| 08:04:51 | [Saint] | If it _can't_ read 64GB, there's no good reason for it and they did it just because they're either shortsighted or because fuck you. |
| 08:05:13 | mudlord | good point, ill just buy the cheap sandisk 64gb card then |
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| 08:37:50 | copper | 06:00:50 UTC <[Saint]> There's absolutely no need to have anything even remotely that fast for a DAP. |
| 08:37:57 | copper | except for transfering music |
| 08:39:05 | [Saint] | Only if your reader or device actually supports all the UHS goodies. |
| 08:39:25 | [Saint] | And we know the device doesn't. |
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| 08:46:06 | copper | the bundled card reader does |
| 08:48:33 | copper | the real question is how fast can it be written to |
| 08:49:05 | copper | that card has a rated read speed but no write speed (aside from being a class 10 device) |
| 08:57:13 | copper | er, not the bundled adpater, but a laptop card reader |
| 08:57:16 | copper | adapter* |
| 08:58:19 | copper | plus, the card can later be used on some other device (smartphone, tablet, camera), where read / write speed may be more important than on a DAP |
| 08:59:24 | [Saint] | Oh, yeah, sure. That's not in question. |
| 08:59:48 | [Saint] | My original standpoint was justthat for the purposes of a DAP, such speeds are largely overkill. |
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| 09:00:26 | [Saint] | We're talking about the difference between waiting a fairly long time for transfer, and a reasonably long time. |
| 09:00:51 | [Saint] | Not like "dis w1ll totes revolutionz filesharez!" |
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| 13:32:27 | kaniobal | Hello, my clip plus went dead yesterday |
| 13:33:41 | kaniobal | When connected to PC it shows up as 30.6 MB drive that needs to be formatted, is there a way out of this? |
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| 13:48:02 | [Saint] | kaniobal: that's usually a reasonable indication that the storage failed, the AMS umbrick info on the wiki /may/ help, but I wouldn't put money on it. |
| 13:48:51 | [Saint] | (An interesting titbit is that no one here knows what that ~30MB volume actually is) |
| 13:49:30 | kaniobal | Thank you, I will probably try it. When I opened it I found out that the battery is swollen. Do you think it may be connected with the problem? |
| 13:50:23 | [Saint] | I wouldn't think so, but it my be possible. It might just be usual signs of end of life. |
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| 13:54:45 | [Saint] | I should also mention its possible that you might lose the ability to boot the original firmware, if a recovery is possible. |
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| 13:56:14 | kaniobal | The pins are extremely tiny and I am fairly sloppy. Would you have any advice on how to short them? |
| 13:57:09 | [Saint] | Metallic tweezers or a flathead precision screwdriver. |
| 13:57:33 | [Saint] | Bent paperclip works in a pinch. |
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| 14:06:49 | kaniobal | Hm, it's showing up as 32MB drive with damaged table regardless of whether the pins are shortened or not. Am I missing something? |
| 14:13:10 | kaniobal | In the guide, there are two pins circled by red and some other two by blue, what are the blue-circled ones for? |
| 14:19:36 | ZincAlloy | cabbie or not? http://oi60.tinypic.com/2zf38er.jpg |
| 14:22:32 | kaniobal | What is cabbie? |
| 14:22:54 | ZincAlloy | the default theme |
| 14:23:14 | ZincAlloy | trying to come up with a better layout for the android widget |
| 14:29:18 | kaniobal | I don't know if it helps, but I like the upper one a lot more than the bottom one. |
| 14:31:29 | [Saint] | Too bad. ZincAlloy cursed us to a life of black and grey gradients and odd yellow years ago. ;) |
| 14:34:23 | ZincAlloy | :D |
| 14:34:53 | * | ZincAlloy is not into cabbie for touch screens |
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| 14:36:54 | kaniobal | Um, I don't want to flood this channel, but I cannot find what the blue pins in this image: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/pub/Main/SansaAMSUnbrick/sandisksansaclipplusdis.jpg are for. Does anyone know where's the origin of this image? |
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| 14:39:39 | kaniobal | I see now, I forgot to use my eyes, they're not pins... |
| 14:40:48 | ZincAlloy | cabbie or not, my layout would inprove useability |
| 14:47:51 | ZincAlloy | the current one has the icons spaced too closely together: http://oi58.tinypic.com/wa28bd.jpg |
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| 14:58:45 | [Saint] | Donpeople really still use widgets? |
| 14:58:55 | [Saint] | *do people |
| 14:59:08 | ZincAlloy | I'd use it |
| 14:59:13 | ZincAlloy | if it looked nice |
| 14:59:58 | [Saint] | If my screen is on, I can jump to the full screen app, if its off, volume button media navigation ftw. |
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| 15:00:19 | [Saint] | Fortunately Rockbox seems to listen to the system in the regard. |
| 15:00:27 | ZincAlloy | :) |
| 15:00:49 | ZincAlloy | would be nice if there was a way to drag a widget onto the lock screen |
| 15:00:52 | [Saint] | Need to change the volume steps. |
| 15:01:18 | [Saint] | Its fucking painful to change the volume with hardware keys. |
| 15:01:46 | [Saint] | (Unless were on the lock screen in which case sane system volume steps seem to be used) |
| 15:01:54 | ZincAlloy | my phone's audio hardware seems to be rather nice. |
| 15:02:00 | ZincAlloy | sounds better than the clip zip |
| 15:03:01 | dfkt | <ZincAlloy> cabbie or not? http://oi60.tinypic.com/2zf38er.jpg <−− cabbie is awful, as usual - the other one looks quite nice, and should blend in nicely with the rest of an android home screen |
| 15:03:11 | [Saint] | Regarding lock screen widgets, that's probably your vendor fucking youbover. |
| 15:03:15 | ZincAlloy | that's what I was thinking.. |
| 15:03:19 | [Saint] | *you over |
| 15:03:29 | ZincAlloy | ah. damn it :D |
| 15:03:49 | [Saint] | Lockdcreen widgets in android are definitely a thing. |
| 15:04:05 | ZincAlloy | yeah. and it seems they were a thing on the galaxy s3 as well |
| 15:04:06 | [Saint] | The right page should be camera. Left pages are all for the user. |
| 15:04:11 | ZincAlloy | until the 4.3 update |
| 15:04:22 | ZincAlloy | it's missing a couple of features it used to have actually |
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| 15:04:51 | [Saint] | That's touchwiz bastardization. Not really Android. |
| 15:05:10 | ZincAlloy | I see |
| 15:05:51 | [Saint] | I have as many pages of lock screen widgets as I want with AOSP 4.4.4 |
| 15:06:01 | ZincAlloy | but it's google that got rid of mass storage mode, right? |
| 15:06:17 | ZincAlloy | I guess I'll look into that sooner or later |
| 15:06:53 | dfkt | ZincAlloy, here's a very old version of the widget i de-cabbie'd once :) - https://imgur.com/a/LU7WR |
| 15:06:57 | [Saint] | You mean MTP? |
| 15:07:27 | ZincAlloy | not bad... |
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| 15:07:35 | [Saint] | If so, that's more limitation than a removal. |
| 15:07:49 | [Saint] | With emulated storage shit gets tricky. |
| 15:08:16 | ZincAlloy | I have to use mtp. my computer doen't see it as a drive when I hook it up |
| 15:08:33 | [Saint] | If there's a real sdcard...you'll get MTP. |
| 15:08:40 | [Saint] | Or should. |
| 15:08:54 | [Saint] | If its emulated, you won't. |
| 15:09:13 | dfkt | you cal always use adb instead of mtp... i never touch mtp at all, since it's unusable |
| 15:09:26 | [Saint] | Says who? |
| 15:09:36 | [Saint] | I use it daily and have for years. |
| 15:10:53 | dfkt | i assume you use it on linux. i have no idea how it handles there. but on windows (xp to 8.1) mtp does not work at all |
| 15:11:30 | ZincAlloy | OSX here. doesn't seem to be working |
| 15:12:13 | ZincAlloy | android suggests to use their file transfer application on a mac, but that seems to be broken as well |
| 15:12:24 | [Saint] | Gotta love those professional OSes huh? ;) |
| 15:12:37 | dfkt | and don't forget who created mtp in the first place :p |
| 15:12:46 | ZincAlloy | microsoft :D |
| 15:13:22 | dfkt | well, adb push/pull, and android commander work nicely |
| 15:23:44 | ZincAlloy | so, dfkt: you must be the one I have to annoy about the widget.. you sure know how to decrap it :) |
| 15:24:48 | dfkt | :) i think that one from the screenshot was very nice |
| 15:25:01 | dfkt | sure like the horizontal layout more than the square one as well |
| 15:25:41 | ZincAlloy | the square or vertical layouts are like little while playing screens |
| 15:25:59 | dfkt | true, the different dimensions have different uses |
| 15:26:04 | ZincAlloy | yeah |
| 15:26:21 | dfkt | i acutally use a "fullscreen" widget for my subsonic client |
| 15:26:23 | ZincAlloy | I guess a smaller horizontal one could be useful, too |
| 15:26:46 | ZincAlloy | some of the music player widgets on my phone can be resized |
| 15:26:56 | ZincAlloy | you can actually pull out a playlist on the bottom if you want to |
| 15:27:47 | dfkt | yeah, resizeable widgets are nice. the launcher i use (apex) can resize anything, but eg. the stock rockbox widget doesn't work too well with it |
| 15:28:04 | dfkt | it resizes, but the album art stays small, and text lines don't get wider as well |
| 15:28:34 | ZincAlloy | it sure could be a much better widget.. |
| 15:28:45 | [Saint] | It resizes well enough for me if I also play with the grid size. |
| 15:29:09 | [Saint] | Ibuse XGELS to shape the launcher to my bidding. |
| 15:29:15 | [Saint] | *I use |
| 15:29:33 | dfkt | interesting |
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| 20:14:44 | fs-bluebot | foolsh: ouch! |
| 20:15:45 | gevaerts | It's *so* nice that when I see my irc client mention activity in this channel, I *know* it's going to be worth reading |
| 20:20:55 | copper | lol |
| 20:21:05 | copper | I usually feel that way about internet forums |
| 20:21:08 | copper | "+1" |
| 20:21:16 | copper | "subscribed" |
| 20:21:26 | copper | or… "lol" |
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| 20:27:42 | nialv7 | my rockbox keeps disconnecting and reconnecting with my computer, even on usb 2.0 |
| 20:27:49 | nialv7 | what can I do? try windows? |
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| 20:28:02 | [Franklin] | what target? |
| 20:28:10 | nialv7 | ipod6g |
| 20:28:27 | [Franklin] | what host? |
| 20:28:34 | nialv7 | linux |
| 20:28:46 | [Franklin] | what desktop environment? |
| 20:28:57 | [Franklin] | those automount environments like to screw things up |
| 20:29:02 | nialv7 | no desktop environment |
| 20:29:13 | [Franklin] | so bare tty? |
| 20:29:29 | nialv7 | I have xorg |
| 20:29:37 | [Franklin] | and openbox? |
| 20:29:49 | [Franklin] | or any of the *box es? |
| 20:29:52 | nialv7 | something like that |
| 20:29:53 | nialv7 | yea |
| 20:30:00 | [Franklin] | techinically, boxen :) |
| 20:30:07 | * | [Franklin] used openbox exclusively |
| 20:30:12 | [Saint_] | Asking all the relevant questions here I see... |
| 20:30:23 | [Franklin] | [Saint_]: it actually does matter :) |
| 20:30:35 | [Franklin] | nialv7: so how do you see that it's connecting/disconnecting? |
| 20:30:43 | nialv7 | dmesg |
| 20:30:55 | [Franklin] | hmm... |
| 20:30:59 | [Franklin] | what build? |
| 20:31:03 | [Franklin] | (of rockbox) |
| 20:31:11 | nialv7 | git HEAD |
| 20:31:18 | [Franklin] | from today? |
| 20:31:20 | [Saint_] | No one seems to have said that USB is fucking known broken and to use the fallback. |
| 20:31:22 | [Saint_] | Jesus. |
| 20:31:26 | nialv7 | yesterday |
| 20:31:32 | nialv7 | and it worked yesterday |
| 20:32:07 | [Franklin] | [Saint_]: USB works just fine for me with the same setup |
| 20:32:15 | copper | nialv7: what build |
| 20:32:19 | copper | what rockbox build? |
| 20:32:20 | [Franklin] | copper: git HEAD |
| 20:32:21 | [Saint_] | Good for you. |
| 20:32:29 | copper | sorry I missed that |
| 20:32:32 | [Saint_] | It doesn't work for a lot of people too. |
| 20:32:36 | [Saint_] | Your point? |
| 20:32:47 | [Franklin] | So it's something with nialv7's setup |
| 20:32:53 | [Franklin] | (host setup) |
| 20:33:00 | [Saint_] | USB issues? Try fallback. This is gospel. |
| 20:33:09 | * | copper disagrees |
| 20:33:40 | [Saint_] | That's the known course of action here and its WAY better than speculation. |
| 20:33:42 | gevaerts | git head isn't actually a useful thing to say |
| 20:34:01 | copper | ? |
| 20:34:04 | [Franklin] | gevaerts: I know... today's git HEAD vs a month ago's git HEAD |
| 20:34:37 | [Franklin] | but it implies that its a recent build |
| 20:34:39 | gevaerts | You need the commit hash |
| 20:34:53 | nialv7 | ok 12f5c63474c03a5f06ea5c04de267a1a8fa36233 |
| 20:34:55 | [Franklin] | a7f23a5d05dcb2c56529bac2fdf1155794a78184 is latest |
| 20:35:22 | [Franklin] | which is like 5 commits ago |
| 20:35:38 | copper | all for "superdom" |
| 20:35:40 | copper | a game |
| 20:35:44 | [Franklin] | lots of stuff can happen in 5 commits... like skynet in superdom learning to use nukes :) |
| 20:35:50 | gevaerts | Nothing useful changed since then |
| 20:36:04 | [Franklin] | so nialv7 try fallback image |
| 20:36:08 | copper | nialv7: did you try rebooting your PC? |
| 20:36:14 | nialv7 | copper, yes |
| 20:36:17 | [Franklin] | gevaerts: "nothing useful" ?!?! |
| 20:36:18 | [Saint_] | I still can't believe I'm the only one bringing up the fallback image. Let's test that so we KNOW if its the host instead of just assuming, sane, yeah? |
| 20:36:25 | nialv7 | [Franklin], you mean the fallback image come with emcore? |
| 20:36:28 | [Saint_] | Can we do that? |
| 20:36:29 | [Franklin] | yes |
| 20:36:37 | copper | [Saint_]: you seem to imply that the fallback build always works |
| 20:36:38 | nialv7 | I've tried that |
| 20:36:41 | [Franklin] | So tools->run fallback image |
| 20:36:48 | [Franklin] | hmm... what distro? |
| 20:36:53 | nialv7 | arch |
| 20:36:56 | copper | [Saint_]: again, IME, the newer builds always work better than the fallback build |
| 20:36:57 | [Franklin] | latest? |
| 20:37:03 | nialv7 | yep |
| 20:37:06 | [Franklin] | if so, you have the exact same setup I have |
| 20:37:17 | copper | if the fallback build fucks up too, it doesn't mean anything |
| 20:37:20 | nialv7 | weird |
| 20:37:25 | [Saint_] | copper: that's why its the fallback. JTS known good and long term verified. |
| 20:37:35 | [Franklin] | is /dev/sdb showing up? |
| 20:37:39 | [Saint_] | *its |
| 20:37:42 | copper | [Saint_]: I have verified that it doesn't always work. |
| 20:37:50 | [Franklin] | no games :( |
| 20:37:53 | copper | I may know what's going on |
| 20:37:58 | copper | erm, no |
| 20:38:25 | copper | nialv7: did you successfully mount your iPod prior to it getting disconnected? |
| 20:38:36 | nialv7 | [Franklin], it shows up then disappears |
| 20:38:47 | [Franklin] | weird... what does dmesg say? |
| 20:39:11 | copper | [Saint_]: the fallback build has all the bugs that were fixed semi-recently |
| 20:39:21 | nialv7 | [Franklin], nothing really. it just report a new usb mass storage, then says it disconnects |
| 20:40:18 | [Saint_] | copper: the bit head build doesn't have any of the USB relevant commits either... |
| 20:40:25 | [Saint_] | *git |
| 20:40:48 | copper | nialv7: did you successfully mount your iPod prior to it getting disconnected? |
| 20:41:05 | nialv7 | copper, yes |
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| 20:41:32 | copper | can you pastebin the relevant dmesg part? |
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| 20:41:42 | copper | I'm running Arch Linux too |
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| 20:41:50 | [Saint_] | As I. |
| 20:42:25 | [Franklin] | So all 4 are using arch... and I'm assuming we all have ipod6g? |
| 20:42:38 | [Franklin] | and also assuming git HEAD or very close to it |
| 20:42:44 | [Franklin] | so something's wrong |
| 20:42:50 | copper | I don't run git head |
| 20:43:04 | copper | I settled on a build that works and applied TheSeven's patches |
| 20:43:25 | [Franklin] | Still... weird |
| 20:43:48 | copper | it may be difficult to even update his build, if the iPod disconnects before the files could be successfully written to the iPod |
| 20:43:53 | nialv7 | http://pastebin.com/KxWF8E2u |
| 20:43:55 | [Franklin] | yeah |
| 20:44:25 | [Franklin] | so a modded HDD> |
| 20:44:27 | [Franklin] | ? |
| 20:44:39 | copper | hmm, it disconnects only a few seconds after showing up |
| 20:44:41 | nialv7 | modded with a msata ssd |
| 20:44:43 | [Franklin] | yeah |
| 20:44:47 | [Franklin] | perhaps the HDD? |
| 20:44:48 | copper | ha! |
| 20:44:50 | [Saint_] | Tarkan strikes again. |
| 20:45:07 | copper | [Saint_]: my patched build should work better with those |
| 20:45:16 | nialv7 | so that's the problem? |
| 20:45:28 | copper | let me upload a copy just in case |
| 20:45:40 | nialv7 | but it worked yesterday. I managed to copy 25G musics to it |
| 20:45:56 | copper | what is the battery level? |
| 20:45:57 | [Franklin] | and then did pacman -Syu? |
| 20:46:09 | [Franklin] | perhaps the new kernel screwed things up? |
| 20:46:10 | nialv7 | copper, near full |
| 20:46:16 | [Saint_] | We did have him over on freemyipod talking to TheSeven directly yesterday |
| 20:46:43 | [Saint_] | That's how things progressed this far. |
| 20:46:52 | [Saint_] | No idea what happened since. |
| 20:47:39 | [Franklin] | maybe try windows |
| 20:48:05 | [Saint_] | Oh...actually...I see no binaries exchanged hands. |
| 20:48:10 | nialv7 | [Saint_], well I successfully installed rockbox. then I try to build rockbox with TheSeven's patch myself. succeeded after some failure. then I copied a couple of songs to it |
| 20:48:16 | nialv7 | and then I went to sleep |
| 20:48:16 | copper | nialv7: fwiw, I'm successfully running this patched build: http://caudec.net/rockbox/rockbox-ipod6g-223038dM-140824.zip |
| 20:48:40 | copper | it has TheSeven's patches |
| 20:48:45 | [Franklin] | which? |
| 20:48:54 | [Franklin] | if you don't tell, it's against GPL :O |
| 20:48:59 | [Franklin] | ;) |
| 20:49:08 | copper | those listed on the emCORE TODO page |
| 20:49:16 | [Saint_] | emCORE requires a fairly particular environment to compile. |
| 20:49:21 | [Franklin] | yes it does |
| 20:49:38 | copper | who said anything about building emCORE? |
| 20:49:42 | [Saint_] | I wouldn't be surprised if it could compile but in a broken fashion . |
| 20:49:50 | [Franklin] | really? |
| 20:49:57 | nialv7 | i didn't build emcore |
| 20:50:00 | [Franklin] | but nialv7 never said he compiled emcore |
| 20:50:01 | copper | ^ |
| 20:50:20 | [Saint_] | Ah. Sorry. I misread. |
| 20:50:48 | [Saint_] | To get all the relevant fixes in...you'll need an updated emCORE. |
| 20:51:17 | [Saint_] | Otherwise there'll be that massive battery drain issue. |
| 20:51:29 | [Franklin] | the what? |
| 20:52:21 | [Saint_] | These adapters helped point out emCORE wasting a fair bit of power somewhere. TheSeven is really the man to talk to there. |
| 20:52:36 | [Franklin] | these adapters? |
| 20:52:58 | [Saint_] | The tarkan adapter plates allowing this to happen. |
| 20:53:30 | [Franklin] | wha? |
| 20:54:57 | [Franklin] | BTW, I think G#950 is ready to go |
| 20:55:00 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #950 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/950 : FS #9583 - periodic table by Franklin Wei |
| 20:56:24 | copper | [Saint_]: http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/897/ |
| 20:56:35 | copper | that's a Rockbox patch addressing the power issue |
| 20:56:54 | copper | included in my build linked above |
| 20:57:23 | [Saint_] | I'm aware. |
| 20:57:32 | copper | though I guess that addresses the issue only while Rockbox is running? |
| 20:57:37 | ZincAlloy | dfkt: we could get away with a 2x1 widget instead of 2x2: http://oi57.tinypic.com/2hpi1q8.jpg |
| 20:57:39 | [Saint_] | Yes. |
| 20:57:42 | copper | ok |
| 20:58:11 | nialv7 | what could i do now?/ |
| 20:58:53 | copper | did you reboot the iPod, too? |
| 20:59:13 | nialv7 | yes |
| 20:59:21 | copper | this feels like we're talking about Windows 95 |
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| 20:59:40 | [Saint_] | Hook up with TheSeven on freemhipod and install patched binaries of both emCORE and Rockbox while he's on hand to debug, would be my guess. |
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| 21:00:21 | [Saint_] | I _thought_ that happened yesterday...but my logs show otherwise. |
| 21:00:44 | nialv7 | yesterday the same thing happens with usb 3.0 |
| 21:00:54 | nialv7 | and it worked with usb 2.0 |
| 21:01:08 | copper | [Saint_]: it's been established a few times already that your logs are not to be trusted ;) |
| 21:01:12 | gevaerts | I suspect it didn't |
| 21:01:18 | nialv7 | but now usb 2.0 stops working as well |
| 21:01:32 | gevaerts | Neither the ipod classic nor rockbox does USB 3.0 |
| 21:01:41 | [Franklin] | so it falls back to 2.0 |
| 21:01:41 | copper | he means a USB 3 port |
| 21:01:48 | nialv7 | yes |
| 21:01:52 | copper | I always use a USB 3 port with my Classic |
| 21:01:56 | [Franklin] | but that still falls back to 2.0 |
| 21:02:05 | copper | yes |
| 21:02:26 | [Franklin] | so why? :) |
| 21:02:40 | copper | because both my USB 2 ports are already taken! |
| 21:02:53 | [Franklin] | We are Microsoft. What you are experiencing is not a problem; it is an undocumented feature. |
| 21:02:53 | copper | and because the "charging port" is the USB 3 port |
| 21:03:17 | nialv7 | [Franklin], I don't know! it just doesn't work with a usb 3 port |
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| 21:03:25 | copper | dunno if it makes any difference wrt charging |
| 21:03:28 | [Franklin] | so try 2.0! |
| 21:03:33 | nialv7 | [Franklin], now it doesn't work with usb 2 port either |
| 21:03:43 | [Franklin] | then try 1.1! :) |
| 21:03:52 | [Franklin] | We are Microsoft. What you are experiencing is not a problem; it is an undocumented feature. |
| 21:03:54 | nialv7 | I don't have one! |
| 21:04:38 | [Franklin] | then reset the ipod? last-ditch option, but who knows? |
| 21:04:55 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:06:05 | [Franklin] | BTW, how do you make plugins talk? |
| 21:08:21 | nialv7 | where can i find the patched emcore? |
| 21:09:48 | foolsh | I'm having trouble, I can't understand why my condition (enable_mmx="no") is ignored in the configure script, does anyone have a minute for me to pick your brain? g#656 tools/configure line 263 and 327 and 3617 are relevant, I'm trying to resolve (cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mmmx") |
| 21:09:50 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #656 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/656 : WinCE SDL port & new Toolchain CeGCC 0.59 (WIP) by Benjamin Brown |
| 21:10:41 | nialv7 | [Saint_], where can i find the patched emcore? |
| 21:10:45 | [Franklin] | -mmmx works with my GCC |
| 21:11:03 | foolsh | Its a special case for mingw32ce |
| 21:11:26 | [Franklin] | will it work without MMX? |
| 21:11:41 | [Franklin] | IIUC that's mostly for video |
| 21:11:41 | [Saint_] | nialv7: by approaching TheSeven directly and asking for it as I mentioned yesterday. |
| 21:12:08 | [Saint_] | He's able to issue you an installer that will address these issues. |
| 21:12:13 | foolsh | [Franklin]: yes I can comment out the line, but that breaks other things I'm sure, I'm trying _really fix it_ |
| 21:12:39 | [Franklin] | [Saint_]: an installer? |
| 21:13:08 | [Saint_] | Yes. An installer...why the question? |
| 21:13:10 | [Franklin] | copper: on http://store.apple.com/us the ipod is still an ipod |
| 21:13:15 | [Franklin] | [Saint_]: what installer? |
| 21:13:39 | foolsh | [Franklin]: I have the tools chain building smoothly for the port, but the configure script chokes on the mmx part, I don't see what I'm doing wrong |
| 21:13:42 | [Saint_] | emCORE for fucks sake. |
| 21:13:59 | [Franklin] | can I get it too? |
| 21:14:49 | [Saint_] | Of course you can. Well...you can ask. Its not a secret club. |
| 21:14:49 | nialv7 | is TheSeven online now? |
| 21:15:03 | [Franklin] | TheSeven: ping |
| 21:15:29 | [Saint_] | ...because the frequent mention of his name wasn't enough. |
| 21:15:38 | [Saint_] | /roll eyes/ |
| 21:15:39 | [Franklin] | nialv7: he's connected and not marked as away |
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| 21:16:08 | [Saint_] | But that's kinda meaningless. |
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| 21:16:28 | [Franklin] | yes, true |
| 21:25:08 | nialv7 | what's the disk mode? |
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| 21:56:25 | [Franklin] | nialv7: disk mode is irrelavant in rockbxo |
| 21:56:28 | [Franklin] | *rockbox |
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| 22:09:18 | foolsh | I got the configure script for #656 worked out, now to wrangle the wince port of SDL into rockbox |
| 22:11:22 | [Saint_] | Naw...SDL2, so we can get dat sweet, sweet GPU accelerated decoding on raspberrypi. |
| 22:12:00 | [Saint_] | ...'cos, ARMv6 /totally/ shouldn't die. |
| 22:12:07 | [Saint_] | /s |
| 22:12:18 | nialv7 | after I charge my ipod to 100% it works |
| 22:12:19 | copper | issue a KILL order |
| 22:12:20 | nialv7 | welp |
| 22:12:30 | copper | ah ha! |
| 22:12:36 | nialv7 | at ~90% it does not work |
| 22:13:18 | nialv7 | the power requirement seems to be pretty high |
| 22:13:29 | copper | mSATA? |
| 22:13:41 | copper | I think I read something to that effect. |
| 22:14:09 | nialv7 | yes, msata |
| 22:14:20 | nialv7 | maybe the usb 3.0 problem is the same thing. |
| 22:14:33 | nialv7 | but even at 100% usb 3.0 doesn't work |
| 22:14:35 | [Saint_] | No. |
| 22:14:35 | copper | still, 90% is plenty |
| 22:14:46 | nialv7 | [Saint_], why? |
| 22:15:03 | [Saint_] | Because its not relevant. |
| 22:15:28 | [Saint_] | We've seen this issue (USB3) on entirely unmodified devices. |
| 22:15:40 | [Saint_] | Invalidating the claim. |
| 22:15:49 | nialv7 | ok |
| 22:16:12 | nialv7 | but what exactly is your issue? maybe we are seeing different issues? |
| 22:16:37 | [Saint_] | Who said I have an issue? |
| 22:17:34 | copper | the issue you alluded to |
| 22:17:38 | nialv7 | I mean, what's the issue you mentioned here? |
| 22:18:36 | [Saint_] | That USB3 ports are REGULARLY reported to fail with emCORE installation and emCORE/Rockbox in general. |
| 22:18:53 | [Saint_] | And no one has any idea why, as it frankly shouldn't happen. |
| 22:19:58 | copper | sigh |
| 22:20:30 | [Saint_] | I'm entirely unsure if the rewrite addresses this, but copper seems to allude to it functioning in his case. |
| 22:20:42 | copper | what rewrite |
| 22:20:44 | nialv7 | what kind of failure? |
| 22:20:48 | copper | addresses what? |
| 22:20:56 | nialv7 | disconnecting then reconnecting? |
| 22:21:22 | copper | Rockbox git head works over USB 3, but emCORE installation on a USB3 port failed in my case |
| 22:21:40 | copper | anyway |
| 22:22:18 | [Saint_] | That installation would've been prior to he USB driver rewrite, no? |
| 22:22:24 | nialv7 | emCore installation on usb3 port fails for me as well. but it's kinda different with rockbox |
| 22:22:32 | [Franklin] | foolsh: I can't seem to figure out how to get smooth animations in 2048! |
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| 22:23:15 | saratoga | "fatal: You are in the middle of a merge −− cannot amend" |
| 22:23:19 | saratoga | what the hell is git talking about |
| 22:23:21 | [Franklin] | git merge −−abort |
| 22:23:28 | saratoga | what is a merge? |
| 22:23:46 | [Franklin] | run git status and see ;) |
| 22:24:21 | [Saint_] | copper: depending on the timing that failure may be explainable, its able to be tested fairly trivially in any case if there's doubt. |
| 22:24:38 | [Saint_] | If it was an old installer it makes some we see indeed. |
| 22:24:53 | [Saint_] | Bah. Auto complete. |
| 22:25:01 | [Saint_] | *some sense indeed |
| 22:25:35 | [Franklin] | LOL |
| 22:26:12 | [Franklin] | saratoga: I think that g#950 is good to go |
| 22:26:14 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #950 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/950 : FS #9583 - periodic table by Franklin Wei |
| 22:26:56 | [Franklin] | though the way it handles navigating between the main table and the lanthanides/actinides has been the subject of much debate... |
| 22:27:28 | [Saint_] | Because its wrong! ;) |
| 22:27:31 | saratoga | remote rejected |
| 22:27:36 | saratoga | you are not allowed to upload merges |
| 22:27:39 | saratoga | the fuck does that mean |
| 22:27:42 | [Saint_] | (but...seriously...it is) |
| 22:27:57 | [Franklin] | It just feels weird |
| 22:28:24 | [Franklin] | jumping from yttrium to actinium just feels werid |
| 22:28:26 | [Franklin] | *weird |
| 22:28:43 | [Franklin] | (but I have it implemented that way on gerrit) |
| 22:28:48 | [Saint_] | I personally would prefer it feeling weird and acting right...but honestly, I'll never use it, so...yeah. |
| 22:29:03 | [Franklin] | but wait... there's a bug! |
| 22:29:19 | [Franklin] | fg/bg colors are default theme colors |
| 22:29:32 | [Franklin] | no... only bg color is theme color, fg is always white |
| 22:29:40 | [Franklin] | ... so if theme BG is white, you can't read it! |
| 22:30:23 | saratoga | i seriously would like to change one line of a commit |
| 22:30:27 | saratoga | why is this fucking impossible in git |
| 22:30:34 | [Saint_] | Yeah, it really needs to respect user fg. |
| 22:31:01 | [Saint_] | Nice catch BTW. |
| 22:31:12 | saratoga | i feel like anytime i try to do something in git i have to solve a combinatorics riddle to proceed |
| 22:31:16 | [Saint_] | That's the type of thing that renders a ui totally unusable. |
| 22:31:34 | [Saint_] | saratoga: it honestly seems like you're cursed dude. |
| 22:31:55 | [Saint_] | You seem to have the worst luck with git. Constantly fighting it. |
| 22:31:58 | saratoga | what is the right way to do this? |
| 22:32:06 | saratoga | i tried checking out a branch, but theres one line in conflict |
| 22:32:20 | saratoga | if i fix it and do a commit i'm apparently blocked from gerrit |
| 22:32:34 | saratoga | is there some way to change the code that doesn't fuck up git ? |
| 22:32:49 | [Saint_] | Didn't it ask you to drop into one of several modes to address the conflict? |
| 22:33:33 | saratoga | it told me "automatic merge failed; fix conflicts and then commit the result" |
| 22:33:36 | [Franklin] | [Saint_]: except if I don't mess with the BG/FG, with cabbie it's all black |
| 22:33:46 | saratoga | so i changed the one line manually and committed it |
| 22:35:37 | [Saint_] | [Franklin]: you can't force any foreground color here or there will always be the potential for conflict. You need to trust that the theme knows what it is doing and respect user foreground (and background if there's no backdrop) colors. |
| 22:36:17 | saratoga | this would be so trivial in SVN |
| 22:36:26 | saratoga | i don't understand why git can't do it |
| 22:36:46 | [Franklin] | So could I force BG and FG? |
| 22:36:58 | [Franklin] | or is that just bad? |
| 22:37:14 | [Saint_] | Did you read what I wrote above? |
| 22:37:30 | [Franklin] | but if I force BOTH? |
| 22:37:32 | [Saint_] | If you force either...there will always be a potential for conflict. |
| 22:37:38 | [Franklin] | but both |
| 22:37:42 | [Franklin] | black bg and white fg |
| 22:38:09 | [Saint_] | Then you'd be chucking out themeing for seemingly no reason? |
| 22:38:26 | [Franklin] | ah... |
| 22:38:43 | [Saint_] | You can't decide what the user wants set for them. |
| 22:38:56 | [Saint_] | Thats their job. |
| 22:41:02 | [Saint_] | saratoga: I really have no idea. Even re-reading the backlog several times. |
| 22:41:29 | [Saint_] | I don't think I fully understand what happened. |
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| 22:41:36 | [Saint_] | So he wah out is muddied. |
| 22:41:45 | [Saint_] | *the way |
| 22:45:28 | saratoga | i think i'm just going to delete my git checkout and try again |
| 22:46:29 | [Saint_] | No need. |
| 22:46:55 | [Saint_] | git reset −−hard origin/master |
| 22:48:45 | [Saint_] | And 'git clean -f' to pick off any untracked layabouts that may remain. |
| 22:49:35 | [Saint_] | That should have you at an absolutely clean working checkout. |
| 22:50:33 | copper | [Saint_]: install in august, but with the old installer |
| 22:51:12 | [Saint_] | Aha. Be nice to see if the failure is repeatable with the new USB driver. |
| 22:51:30 | [Saint_] | I have no USB3 hardware any longer. |
| 22:52:47 | saratoga | if i make changes manually and then copy the old commit message and id, can i still update to the same gerrit task |
| 22:52:50 | [Saint_] | Regarding git, would it be nicer if I went a tad more in depth about recovering from fuckuos on the wiki? Be they self administered or otherwise? |
| 22:53:08 | [Saint_] | I only know so much, but I can add what I know. |
| 22:53:26 | saratoga | i think switching to git was just a terrible idea in general since it seems to have alienated pretty much everyone who wasn't already familiar with it to begin with |
| 22:53:31 | [Saint_] | saratoga: yep. |
| 22:53:43 | [Saint_] | And yep. |
| 22:54:18 | saratoga | hilarious, git pushed my previous commit to gerrit |
| 22:54:28 | saratoga | which is already in git |
| 22:54:45 | [Saint_] | That it drove off several seasoned committers was evidence enough that the experiment fsil |
| 22:54:52 | [Saint_] | *failed. |
| 22:55:21 | [Saint_] | and the lead gerrit champion is no longer here anymore |
| 22:55:28 | saratoga | haha and i can't even delete it because it thinks its not my patch |
| 22:55:54 | saratoga | as bad as git is, I can at least see the value in having all those extra features, even if they are painfully difficult to use |
| 22:55:58 | [Saint_] | You're likely not the _owner_ |
| 22:55:59 | saratoga | but gerrit is just bad software |
| 22:56:13 | saratoga | not hard to use, just badly made |
| 22:56:23 | [Saint_] | You can be he author, and append to task, but you don't own it. |
| 22:56:45 | [Saint_] | Fucking mobile. Sorry for shitty typing. |
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| 22:59:07 | saratoga | heh and the new gerrit lost all the files |
| 22:59:12 | foolsh | [Saint_]: I miss a physical keyboard on my mobile as well, still have a tilt I want to fix up and use again, don;t care if it can only run eclair or not |
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| 23:00:10 | [Saint_] | My fingers are faster than my oses touch recognition I guess. |
| 23:00:33 | [Saint_] | I'm one of the few people that types with more than just their thumb on mobile. |
| 23:02:05 | saratoga | somehow git managed to come to a state where all of the new files in that patch are unchanged and tracked in version, but also have never been committed to version control |
| 23:02:57 | [Saint_] | Well done sir. |
| 23:03:03 | [Saint_] | That's quite a feat. |
| 23:03:35 | saratoga | well i give up |
| 23:03:40 | [Saint_] | We don't go to Gerritholme. |
| 23:03:49 | saratoga | if someone wants that dx50 port, they can figure out how to get git to do things |
| 23:04:35 | [Saint_] | Well...that's that then. |
| 23:04:52 | [Saint_] | You're one of very few committees these days. |
| 23:04:59 | [Saint_] | *ers |
| 23:05:00 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:05:44 | [Saint_] | (That doesn't just push their own stuff directly or stuff that only interests them) |
| 23:06:03 | [Saint_] | There's really very few people in that position now. |
| 23:08:13 | [Saint_] | Not that I'm entirely convinced you accepted that position entirely willingly. |
| 23:08:46 | [Saint_] | You seem go get hounded into a lot of your reviews and pushes lately. |
| 23:08:52 | [Saint_] | *seem to |
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| 23:41:34 | [Franklin] | is HAVE_LCD_COLOR the same as LCD_DEPTH>1? |
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| 23:42:41 | TheSeven | [Saint_]: CF adapter battery drain is only an issue as long as emcore is running, it will go away once a patched rockbox boots |
| 23:43:00 | TheSeven | also, the affected devices typically don't manage to boot rockbox at all with a broken emcore build ;) |
| 23:43:02 | [Franklin] | TheSeven: patched as in g897? |
| 23:43:04 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #897 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/897 : iPod Classic: Fix several ATA driver bugs. by Michael Sparmann |
| 23:43:12 | TheSeven | oh, and latest emcore head has the fixes for that already applied |
| 23:43:29 | TheSeven | we just haven't officially released that yet, but I think user890104 has autobuilds somewhere on our server |
| 23:43:59 | TheSeven | I'm also wondering if USB3 ports are still a problem with the latest USB patches |
| 23:44:05 | TheSeven | if things are working right they shouldn't be |
| 23:44:12 | TheSeven | but who knows... I'm interested in feedback on that |
| 23:44:30 | TheSeven | [Franklin]: yes |
| 23:44:42 | * | [Franklin] thinks he has that |
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| 23:57:30 | saratoga | [Franklin]: grayscale devices are greater than 1 bit (e.g. 256 shades of gray would be 8 bit) |
| 23:58:54 | [Franklin] | so is there lcd_set_foreground on LCD_DEPTH==1 devices? |
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